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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:28am On Mar 25, 2018
Funlord is viewing...
Crime › Re: Young Man Shot Dead By Armed Cultists In Cross River State. Graphic Photo by patrickmuf(m): 10:48am On Mar 25, 2018
Looks a lot like a schoolmate of mine back in the days...It's sad that youths in my village have embraced cultism and other social vices...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:08am On Mar 25, 2018
Someone should login with an alternate and download us with info on the latest gang war...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 2:38pm On Mar 24, 2018
Unlimited22:
Says who?
Rakitic, Modric and Kovacic
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 7:59am On Mar 24, 2018
elrony:
Patrickmuf beloved country!!! grin
Lol we're not going to make it past the group stage...
Politics › Re: APC Chieftains And Thousands Decamp To PDP In Akwa Ibom by patrickmuf(m): 11:53pm On Mar 23, 2018
edidiongmichael:
Wouldn't have mattered even if they didn't decamp. Akwa Ibom is a core PDP state and nothing will change that... Not while Godswill Akpabio is still alive and a PDP member.
A country that promotes strong men rather than build strong institutions is doomed...
Akpabio has just one vote bro, we should stop making this kind of callous statements.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:49am On Mar 23, 2018
diggz:
Out to where exactly? Ogbeni come back here ojare.....I still have an important question for you to answer....


Are you the one without a functional brain?

cheesy cheesy cheesy
Nope...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:53am On Mar 23, 2018
Hausa diggers are here, I am out...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:47am On Mar 23, 2018
For some, it's only members of Redcafe that have sense...Lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:29am On Mar 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
lie that you did not complain about Zlatan spoiling ball with his lack of pace tongue
We are not talking about Fabregas or Cahill here... grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:29am On Mar 23, 2018
afrodoc2:
Shuo! Person cannot play with you again? shocked

Hawk imaginary beef. Shey na Satis or Gala?
Most likely gala... Lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:05am On Mar 23, 2018
neezar:
I just taya....Is he angry with himself or what
E get people wey dey carry imaginary beef for head dey waka but if you call them hawker now na problem...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:54am On Mar 23, 2018
It's all a matter of perception, leaving while the ovation is loudest or when you can't give enough...
I always prefer you don't leave whilst you're hot (that's how Mace screwed up), keep going till you can't move no more, keep conquering until there's no new lands up for grabs...
Zlatan came, saw and indeed he wrote his name in gold...Old Trafford will never forget you Zlatan, at some point, I binned the world time and only knew Zlatan time, a beast right from his youthful days all through to Ajax, Juventus, Inter, AC Milan, Barcelona, PSG and finally, the grandest of stages, the Theater of Dreams, Old Trafford, he treated us to magnificent football defying his size every time he took to the pitch...
Zlatan like Ronaldo De Lima changed the way strikers played, known for burying even half chances and highly involved in the build up play he was class apart.
Old Trafford will miss your big personality, your dedication and huge ego matched with your intimidating size... They'll never be another Zlatan, take a bow Ibracadabra. #magic #Beast

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:42pm On Mar 22, 2018
neezar:
In summary, what's the message of this post oga undecided
Very good question, some of us are at war with ourselves...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 12:35am On Mar 22, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/cambridge-analyticas-ruthless-bid-to-sway-the-vote-in-nigeria

Things a gwarn in this Nigeria of a country sha. cheesy
Expository...The things people do to cling on to power...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:29pm On Mar 21, 2018
Diggz who is behind this your proposed transfer?
I'm asking just so that I can come here and cuss the hell outta the person when you start beasting in faraway lands just the way you do Mourinho each time De Bruyne and Salah scores...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:40am On Mar 20, 2018
dubylhover:
Not saying that bro but there's a reason y mourinho is at Old Trafford and we are watching him from a screen.. If his previous record that made him manager fails him, then we look for a[b] better manager[/b].. We all saw what happened with Gary Neville and sincerely amongst all those Sky Sports and bt analysts, we know he's d one that actually seems to know much about coaching, albeit from a screen also like us
Valencia were that bad, it has very little to do with Neville, we have also seen top coaches fail, who would've thought Benitez will be coaching a wack team like Newcastle after his early years with Valencia and Liverpool...Coach are paid to do their job as II is for analyst like Jamie Carragher and Neville...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:50am On Mar 20, 2018
dubylhover:
Sorry O..who is Jamie redknapp in d world of football, a renowned ex footballer or a renowned ex coach?
Then we shouldn't be here cos we are not ex footballers or coaches...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 11:26pm On Mar 19, 2018
raumdeuter:
Messi won 3 CL finals and played a dominant role in each of them. Can we say any f these about Terry or Ferdinand
Ferdinand won the UCL...
Victor Valdes also won 2-3 UCL too, does that make him better than Kahn?
Torres has won the UCL and World cup, is he better than Lima Ronaldo?
Ryan Griggs never won an international trophy, does that make Nani better than him?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 11:03pm On Mar 19, 2018
raumdeuter:
So I need to tell you average get levels? Everton is average does that make them peers with West Brom or Hull City

Carvalho with Portugal reached a Euro final in 2004, a world cup semi in 2006, these are still better than what England ever achieved with Tery and Ferdinand
Messi reached numerous finals, does it compensate for not winning one?
Oga, the motto is get rich or die trying. If you're not rich, you're not rich...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 10:08pm On Mar 19, 2018
raumdeuter:
Is Serbia a football nation on the level of England? Vidic and Carvalho have great individual performances to point to in their career

Terry and Rio are the perfect carry along defenders
But but you always say England are a pack of average players...
I'm curious to know why you choose to focus on Serbia, how about Carvalho with Portugal or is Portugal also a small team compared to England?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:31pm On Mar 19, 2018
chic2pimp:
You have opened up a Can of worms now. Dayo will start listing the Numerous finals and Semis they played in without actually telling us what they won.

Btw Carvalho won the CL with Porto.
Ferdinand won also won the UCL...
Wes Brown also did, so winning trophies is not a yardstick...
Terry and Ferdinand were class...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:24pm On Mar 19, 2018
Lukaku was scoring frequently at West Brom and most recently Everton thus for him to be posing lesser numbers here, we need to take a close look at the coach and the system cos the advantage in quality we have over West Brom and Everton is unquestionable...
Our build up play is slow and our fullback are most tasked with defending rather than joining the attack (sorry Luke Shaw), we are treated to uninspiring football after spending bucket loads but no, let's blame Lukaku who gives his all on the pitch.
He has limitations but it's obvious he is working hard to get over them, you can't fault him, not after seeing he plays with Lingard, Fellaini, Smalling, Young etc
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:12pm On Mar 19, 2018
raumdeuter:
John Terry is a very mediocre defender carried by others. Him and Ferdinand were 2 useless defenders who tagged on to the work of their hardworking defence partners.

Whenever they leave the club and pair for England, their poor quality always shine through
Oga stop it already, what did Vidic and Carvalho win with Serbia and Portugal respectively? How well did they shone away from their respective clubs?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:20pm On Mar 19, 2018
weedtaker:
Trash bro, he fvcking owned you.

lingard is all about forming activity you said, yet niqqa has 13, more than rashid and the holy grail anthony martial, shey una the yab hazard as activity specialist cuz of his low output, why tune come de change now for the matter wey de ground?

Ramuzaki don too spread dis amala turning virus.
Pray tell, how many assist has De Bruyne playing a similar position to Lingard?
Lingard scoring goals more than he creates is only a pointer that he isn't quite as effective as an AM, that's where he comes short, his contemporaries at Man City, Arsenal and Co are popping up with assist and some goals and generally affecting the play more but he doesn't do his primary role well enough.
The goals are they to mask his otherwise poor performance as the main link between our defense and attack. De Bruyne night not score but he makes City tick just as Ozil, Erikson, Coutinho, Willian etc Please look at the aforementioned players and compare them to Lingard and tell me if he is delivering half the performance they put up week in, week out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:56am On Mar 19, 2018
elampiro:
Let me make you understand the role of Lingard even though not as efficient as Rooney.

Firstly, Rooney played in the wing in his first season for United. He played there many other times throughout his career particularly when SAF emoloyed a 4-3-3 formation.

Take for instance, our match against Inter Milan at Old Trafford, once we went a goal up, Rooney was moved to left flank to protect Evra who was facing the most difficulties on the night. He played more as a wing back, then overlap to Assist a goal for Ronaldo. Giggs was moved to number 10. Same way against Madrid where he was meant to help Raphael stop Di Maria and Ronaldo. I think he did similar work against Barca in two or three occasions. In our UCL against Chelsea, Rooney was instructed to occuppy Michael Essien once we we lost the ball. Rooney was increasing protesting his defensive roles.

According to Ferguson, Welbeck got the nod ahead of Rooney against Madrid at Old Trafford because of Welbeck's ability to track back faster.

So you can see that even SAF always needed a player who could attack and work hard. That's the work of Lingard currently. Lingard has performed or bailed us out where Martial and Lukaku failed. True.



I am not arguing the quality of Lingard, Park and Rooney. What I said is they are made to play same role. Lingard has a unique quality Martial, Sanchez, Mata, etc don't have. So he will come ahead in selection or substitution in some situations and matches.

When we play against a fast physical side which are dominating us, Lingard will be ahead with his ability to go to our defensive third and win the ball, then drive it forward.

However, your claim that Lingard is all activity is rubbished by the fact that he is our most productive player on goals per minutes. He is also our second highest goal scorer in all competition despite having less minutes than Martial and Rashford.
Stats don't tell the whole story, Mkhitaryan comes to mind...
So you mean most of the matches Lingard has started, the plan was to counter the threat of the opposition we came up against? If so, then that's the issue with Mou, setting up always to contain the opposition rather than the other way around.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:12am On Mar 19, 2018
We all depend on what we're fed, it's Mourinho who has been talking ever since the disgraceful outing vs Sevilla, it's him who told he had spent two days practicing quick transition all because he was criticized for being too conservative.
He is talking now that the players didn't implement his method as much as he would have liked just so he can be absolved of any blame, that's cheap if you ask me.
I watched Man City for the first time against Arsenal last season in a friendly match after Pep had just taken over and the first thing I noticed was each time the keeper had the ball, the two CBs split and the DM drops back to occupy the auxiliary CB role giving the keeper 3 options to play out of defense. Now that's a coach whose imprint you can immediately point to.
This season, when Walker was bought, the rave all over the English press was that Pep had gotten his man, another Alves but Pep came out to say Walker is quick, yes but also brainless and noted that he'll go about teaching Walker to use his brain often...Now go and watch Walker and tell me if he isn't playing better and playing more with his head rather than pace...
I can't point to a pattern under Mourinho, at least with LVG, it was possession football (only downside was the lack of penetration), with Mou, we just seem to go out hoping one moment of individual brilliance decides the contest or long hopeful balls to Fellaini...
If Mou continue pushing the blame to the players, be rest assured that sooner rather than later, they'll revolt...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by patrickmuf(m): 7:46am On Mar 19, 2018
Inconsequential match, this is not against Messi in a UCL semi final.
And I hope you're not praying for errors like these to happen often just so you can come back to Airmark here with your bants. Na your team oh!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:58pm On Mar 18, 2018
eph12:
When Lingard is not in a goal scoring position, he's actually useless
Very useless, only thing he's got is good shooting technique and sometimes, positioning otherwise he is the perfect representation of a headless chicken, he beats Pedro to it...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:52pm On Mar 18, 2018
elampiro:
Ferguson used Rooney many years for same job Lingard is doing. Nothing Bad in it. Even JS Park was preferred for big games over better forwards because of his work rate which you call activity.
Oga easy on the lies, Fergie used Rooney in the Pogba role, how do you keep a straight face and compare Rooney's role in midfield with Lingard who ordinarily should be linking our midfield and attack but due to his technical deficiencies is forced to run around just to deceive folks like you.
Next time you sit to watch our match, take a closer look at Lingard, he'll drive forward with the ball when there's space but once he encounters an opposition player, he'll run into him and lose the ball...This is serious activity...
J.S. Park was not just all hustle, he could pass, dribble and score occasionally, he was perfect almost every time, his role was even limited at United compared to his PSV days where he played mostly from the wings/AM position (case in point, watch PSV vs Milan, UCL semis or quarters in 2007)...Park was a very intelligent player, hard worker, yes but technically good.
I am of the opinion that he should be loaned out if Pogba must blossom cos he plays too much and ends up distracting others, all those childish handshakes and stuffs are not for serious footballers...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:26pm On Mar 18, 2018
elampiro:
And you count Lukaku's hardwork beneficial? A player that is suppose to be scoring is not scoring but doing hardwork, you praise him. The one that is suppose to do hardwork is doing scoring on top and you dislike him.

[b]Lingard is mostly used to face physical and fast opponents so that he can help the right back or DM. He deserves praise[/b]s.
This bolded sums up our approach to games, we now set up to counter the threat of teams instead of teams setting up to counter the threat we pose...This is the reason why Lukaku isn't scoring enough...
How on earth do you start Fellaini in your most important game of the season and expect your striker to thrive, Elampiro, if you saw that game vs Sevilla, we kept on aiming long balls to Fellaini who originally was part of a two man midfield, this stupid tactic left Matic all on his own for the most part in that first half.
We hardly create goal scoring opportunities for our forwards compared to our rivals and to be honest, our best croses into the box this season has been done by who? Lukaku...He isn't the standard but he has been class above the rest for the past month and a half...
I still don't know why Mou disrupted the Lukaku - Martial partnership in favor of Sanchez...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:17pm On Mar 18, 2018
joeace2020:
To the Mourinho haters and conspiracy theorists, let me ask one question. Would Mourinho come out in front of the world and lie to the press about the tactics worked on in training and what the players put out there? If your answer is no then we know who deserves the blame?

This was Mourinho's comments
"When I spend two days on faster building up with the ball arriving earlier in between the lines in attacking areas and that depends on qualities and decisions by defenders in possession, but also depends on movement from attacking players.

"When I have spent two days working on this and I arrive here and have attacking players were hiding behind the defenders and not wanting the ball and defenders playing just square passes and taking 10,12 passes to go from one line to another line. I have to feel frustrated."

Can he come out to lie about what the team worked on and what the players whose brains Mourinho doesn't control did?
Oga leave that thing, what is the responsibility of a coach if not to get his ideas across to the players and interpreted on the pitch?
If the boys are not playing to instruction, you have a large squad, make changes.
This is his second season and we can't point to one area of improvement in our team, if the players are not good enough, whose fault? Most definitely his fault cos he has had four transfer windows already and close to 300m pounds to fix this yet we are still treated to uninspiring football.
Whilst he is at his business of blame games, he should tell us who is sanctioning the contract renewals of the same average players.

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