KNOWMORE56:
*. Jesus is the highest and the lowest
Colossians 1: 18 "KJV:And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; THAT in ALL THINGS he might have the PREEMINENCE.


Colossians 3:11 "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but CHRIST is ALL, and IN ALL

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And Christ is a property of someone . I know you dont know. 1 Corinthians 3:23 Christ BELONG TO GOD ( His Father )

So you need to cool down.

rottennaija:


Remember, I coined the word human spirit beings... Hope you remember.

Humans are creature of flesh and blood ( Genesis 5 vs 2 )

" He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.” "



. Spirits are not. So you coined nonsense. Read up on anthropormophism.

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shadeyinka:

And NWT says one of the Men/Angels that visited Abraham was Jehovah. If an angel is also called God, is an angel also called JEHOVAH?

Don't forget that your argument is that Angels are also called by the title God. Is any Angel called Jehovah?



Is Any angel by the name JEHOVAH?
You may call Maximus69 and Peacefullove to help you clarify the NWT and don't forget to tell Rozz that there is actually an angel or a man called by the NAME JEHOVAH!

Abraham entertain all three men , the Bible said he unknowingly entertained ANGELS. All three men are angels. And yes for your information , Angels act in his name when delivering assignments. An Angel spoke to Moses at the burning bush and refer to himself as God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.


So yes an angel can Act on his behalf and he called Jehovah. You can't deny this , its all over the Bible .


Back to the previous matter, Does an Angel been Called God make them the Almighty God ?? What does it mean ?? When you answer this it became clear why Jesus is represented in capital letters at Isaiah 9:6 too. ..

freshboi88:


You said othniel is a savior, now I am asking u. Is othniel your savior?

Yes or No?

Dnt be scared to answer or this is a case of bush meat catching the hunter

You know what, you dont know warris going on.

God told the Israelites There is no Savior except me, But he raised Othniel as Their saviour , How many saviours do the isrealites have ?

Rozz:
an angel or a man called Jehovah?just seeing this

When Angels act on behalf of the most high, they deliver messages in his name. The point am driving at is anytime Jesus, Angels or anyone else except the Father are called God in capital letters, its because they are acting as Gods representative.

" For us, there is ONE GOD, The Father " 1Cor 8:5,6

Maximus69:


In as much as i've been trying to avoid you since our last discussion, it's obvious you still have me in mind!

Let it be clear to you that Jehovah's representative is coming in the name of JEHOVAH! Matthew 23:39

Malachi said Jehovah will come to Israel but he will first send his messenger ahead of him {Malachi 3:1 compare to Matthew 3:1-3} John the baptist came to prepare the way for Jesus, yet neither John nor Jesus is Jehovah but one of them will act in Jehovah's place amongst his people while the other get the people's minds ready for his arrival!

Note that the angel in the burning bush spoke like Jehovah {Exodus3:2-6} just as the angel leading the team that was sent to inspect Sodom and Gomorrah did {Genesis 18:1-21} it's later that we learnt that JEHOVAH never left his throne in heaven so no man at anytime has seen him before {John 1:18} who then have all those people been seeing? They are angels representating Jehovah Sir! Exodus 13:21-22 compare to Exodus 14:19

God bless you!

Shadeyinka doesnt have sense na

rottennaija:


My head will reset when you are done with me. But please educate me further, you seem quit.... Knowledgeable.

Revelation 19:14 ESV
And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses

Revelation 19:11-14 ESV
Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses

Please my know it all Jw, what are horses? Are they animals or angel or humans or spirit beings? Do they have skeletal structures that would support sitting on and racing?

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Your IQ just Keep dropping, So animals exist in heaven ?? Or you don't understand anthropomorphism ?

hoopernikao:


Okay Sir.
I will seek the help from sound and serious Christian not someone who wrap laziness in ignorance and wear it as a badge.

I asked you for a proper and detailed explanation, see what you wrote. Aren't you ashamed that you are contributing to discussion like this yet you couldn't put together coherent defence of your thought. This is very shameful. Seeing a profess Christian acting like this make me sad, quick fingers, with no serious desire to study, explain or contribution.

Do you think bible study is for jolliness? What you wrote above is as careless as your utterances. Even I have seen atheist doing more with the scriptures here that this your laziness.

All you desire is to argue on what you can't even labor on. I wonder who will be saved today if the bible writers are of same trait you displayed.

Don't end up exposing your laziness and tarnishing the confidence and labor of studious Christians here by you continue like this.

Heed to this advise,
Firstly, you must learn how to sit and listen than speak. Being slow to speak (write) is a virtue hard to come by this days but it can mostly present you as sound if you do.

Secondly, please change your attitude, stop jumping around throwing verses like a Smiley. Be diligent, study hard and properly, ask questions honestly, learn to read and read again then again and ask questions again (this include your bible and posts on Nairaland)
That is when you can be delivered from this unnatural attitude of yours.

I truly hope you heed.

Keep shut. If you can't defend your position that Jesus deserve a capital G at John 1:1 .

freshboi88:


Is othniel your saviour that's the question I asked o. Is it not too early to be foolish?

Is Othniel your saviour?

You said there is only one savior , Is God contradicting by making Othniel a savior ?

freshboi88:


Is othniel your savior?

Answer my question : Who make othniel a Savior if there is one savior ? Who make Jesus a savior too ?

Nobody make Yahweh a Savior unlike the above.

KNOWMORE56:
No quality of the true God that is not found in Jesus, that is the summary of everything I'm posting about Trinity.

Both angels and human beings worship this Jesus. And nothing can be done about this.

Even those arguing about it here will finally worship Him, according to the Bible

Philippians2 : 10 "KJV:That at the name of Jesus every knee should BOW, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

There is ONE GOD, The Father . 1Cor 8:5,6

Not Jesus . you still refuse to learn

shadeyinka:

Again:
According to English NWT , is Jesus "God" or "god"?

Again:
According to English NWT , is Jesus "God" or "god"?

You are not just stupid, u also refuse to learn . The personality that appear to Abraham is also an angel.


You are yet to refute the fact that the Angel Jacob fought all night is called God. ( despite you at first denied he was an angel before I throw it to your face )

Are angels God or god according to KJB ?

shadeyinka:

Again:
According to English NWT , is Jesus "God" or "god"?

You still decide to be stupid despite been schooled.
Are angels God or god ?

freshboi88:



If sin has no effect on a mans spirit, then y is it important for a man to keep his spirit blameless.

23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it.

I thought you teach a man's spirit is the breadth of life and so it's a force, so how can it be possible to find blame in a fault.?


U go wound yourself today

Then show me one single place that says spirit of man goes to hell for punishment since it can be affected by sin ??

rottennaija:


Peacefullove, You never responded to this.

I did. Are angels spirits ? Do spirits have flesh and bones ? U head should have reset by now .

hoopernikao:


Bible explanation is not 1+1=2 Sir. Bible explanation is serious work. You can direct your question above to pamphlet readers because of I don't do sound bites.

Like I said before, If you are desirous of proving points and you are sure of what you are trying to do, lay down a well educated, well researched and insightful theology of your stand. That is when I can attest you are ready and that you are a serious bible student not a Nairaland bible student. I dont do 1+1 = 2 with bible.

I prefer a well researched work and spending time with such serious minds. You have the opportunity to show you are one here now by presenting a DETAILED biblical investigation of your thoughts. You shouldn't be afraid of presenting such since you are energetic enough to defend the your correspondence.

" For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things " 1Cor 8 vs 6

If this doesnt explain it for you that all others get God by title but in reality there is only one God, not Jesus but the Father. U need help.

Emusan:


Yes!

You lied. Unless you mean Jesus is the God of the Father.

You and Jesus are God but you respect Jesus!

Even my Boss and parents, I also respect. You no get sense

Then both Jesus and the Father is OUR GOD!

" 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" john 20:17

Let us slot it in and see how it sounds

OUR GOD is also OUR FATHER and Jesus FATHER , Who Is Jesus Father ?

OUR savior is OUR GOD!

Revelation 7:9 says No, it separated our God from the Lamb.

And they were shouting with a great roar, “Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!”

The Lamb is not OUR GOD . Emusan u can faint now

Where is Jesus called Angel Michael?

Where is Silas called Silvanus?

I and Jesus have only one GOD .

freshboi88:


But the Jehovah says there's only one saviour not two.....c as u contradict urself

Who make othniel a saviour ?

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Jehovah is an angel , u agree shey ?. nice one

Emusan:


You called it rant because your lying mouth is being exposed.

Now see the way she boycotted my point and question!

Here again

So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.
So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

"SOME DON'T KNOW"

Who are these "SOME"?

And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born?

What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe?

Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

Rusell never claimed Jesus is his God, and Russell admit he is nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus. . Can a man say he is nowhere instructed to pray to his God ? Clearly u ain't okay

Emusan:


Now see the way she boycotted my point and question!

Here again

So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.

So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.



"SOME DON'T KNOW"

Who are these "SOME"?

And Wasn't that verse already in the scripture before Russell was born?

What is the essence of Russell being the very MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah and yet Jehovah allowed him to die in this wrong believe?

Like I said earlier, your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.

Rants , I need prove for where Russell claimed Jesus is HIS GOD ?

Emusan:


Give a straight answer nobody asked you to rant!

I should tell you that actually, Give a straight forward answer from the bible: Is Jesus OUR GOD ?

Is Jesus God?

I am God too, Jesus , angels are Gods too
God but not Almighty God and not our God.


Me, angels , Jesus all HAVE A SUPREME GOD above us. That is OUR GOD.

Is Jesus OUR SAVIOR?

Yeah he is , Just as the Father.


Where is Jesus called OUR GOD ?

freshboi88:


Nah WA o.....my 6 year old nephew get sense pass u. I am going by your analogy o.....is it your brain I will use bfre.

Does a sinful life style have an effect on a man's spirit.....ansa this question to cure Ur delusion

It doesnt have any effect on mans breath of life/spirit. Its a figurative expression, even Jesus used it for the prodigal son saying " Your brother was dead" does it mean he actually died ? U dont have sense.


Those dead that are preached to at 1Pet 4:6 , where was the preaching done ? Hell ?

U are cornered.

hoopernikao:


Are you sure you are ready for this you are pushing? Because I haven't seen you make any coherent arguments and discussion focused explanation. I dont deal with snippet sir, if you intend to present your theology or case on this issue properly, present it here and let's examine the scriptures on it. Anything aside that is just whiling away time.

It seems you are lost or something, you said the below.

hoopernikao
Like I told your colleague, you can't use John 1:1 to conclude what Theos will implies. You have to look at context based on chapter, book, and the whole Bible.

And i asked, since you have checked the context based on Chapter, book and the whole bible , Does it imply Logos is Almighty God ??

Rozz:
like a said earlier,i stand with the JW concerning this

He know he can't find any such verse. Trying to deflect.

Emusan:


Answer my questions!

Is Jesus God?

This is not the answer to my question, am Also called God , angels are also called God. The focus point is : WHO IS CALLED OUR GOD ?

Is Jesus OUR SAVIOR?

The Father is also OUR saviour . now show me where Jesus Is called OUR God just like the Father ?

Emusan:


So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.

So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

So u can't prove where Russell claimed Jesus is his God ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.Who should we PRAY TO and worship according to the scripture?

Pray this way " OUR FATHER "

That's whom all Prayer and worship be directed to. This would mean no reference of worship should be applied to men or Jesus in the Bible. But so long we have such reference people will pray and worship Jesus. Which is wrong. But some dont know. So far they didnt claim Jesus is their God.

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Emusan:


So Russell only shows Christ RESPECT because he LACKS THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo.

So now that Proskuneo isn't worshipped, are we to respect Christ?

So u can't prove where Russell claimed Jesus is his God ?

Your lying mouth will continue to rope you in.Who should we PRAY TO and worship according to the scripture?

Pray this way " OUR FATHER "

That's whom all Prayer and worship be directed to. This would mean no reference of worship should be applied to men or Jesus in the Bible. But so long we have such reference people will pray and worship Jesus. Which is wrong. But some dont know. So far they didnt claim Jesus is their God.

Emusan:


I will ask you just two questions about that!

Is Jesus God?

Question is : Is Jesus OUR GOD ? Where does the Bible call him OUR GOD like the Father ?

Emusan:


Just look at the @underlined and see how her shameless lying mouth still sounds.

Claimed it's LACK OF PROPER KNOWLEDGE of proskuneo but also said that IT'S JUST A RESPECT given to Christ!

If it's just a respect given to Christ then it shouldn't be a LACK OF PROPER KNOWLEDGE of Proskuneo because it means what they did was right and it shouldn't be blame on anything. Empty skull!

If it wasn't just his way of showing respect due to lack of proper knowledge of proskuneo, I EXPECTED HIM TO DECLARE JESUS AS HIS GOD , Show me where he claimed this ? Its taking you years to do this. Dont know why

Isn't this the same man that spoke vehemently against trinity ?

He declared Jesus as his God when he PRAYED to Him and WORSHIPPED Him.

Show me the declaration ?

mhizv:
It's both ways! Men meet a better,and more pretty girl, and would want to go after her! Just few are able to resist it.

Same way most ladies meet better men,most of them gladly accept them ,while others remain committed.

Thank you.

I get the OP point , but the fact that he generalized is what am against, We have heard of ladies who turned down very rich men to stick to their husband's and vice versa we have heard of men who turned down Gorgeous women advances to stay commmited to their partner.

In Economics Scarcity brings value. My point is in this age where most people ain't committed , a committed person is GOLD . cos they are scarce and yes they exist.