Samsimple:
life is really something else.. my dad just died this morning. who would have thought, i was so full of joy after Bayern Munich win only to be greeted with this sad news

Sorry about that bro ... It's not easy at all . God will be with you Sir

Emusan:


Shameless liar!

Was verse 8 about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

No wonder you can't give straight answer to the question because your lying mouth will be exposed.

How can Cyprian apply verse 8 which is not a TRINITARIAN VERSE to support Trinity and even went further to say "IT IS WRITTEN OF the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost..."



Shameless idiot

Christ and the Apostles quoted many phrases from the Old Testament, does that mean those verses weren't in existence for them not to have quoted it in full?

Lying liar mouth!

Cyprian quoted a phrase from verse 8 and applied it to Trinity . No such verse existed , so he only quoted and misapplied the phrase .For such verse to exist , he would have quoted it.

Emusan:


Learn to be honest for once.

Does verse 8 about the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit?

This is the question you're still unable to answer since simply because you're of your father the devil.




A primary school English student knows when a simple sentence like "IT IS WRITTEN OF...." is made, the person is pointing to something except a dull and brain death JWs.



Was verse 8 about the persons of the Holy Trinity?

For Cyprian to have said "It is written of..."


Idiot, even after provided the original translation of his work and even a 5th century bishop quoted his work to support the written of the same COMMA.

Does verse 8 about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

You can't answer this because your work is a manifestation of your father the devil who is a liar from beginning.

If such a verse existed , That which is written which mentions Father , son and Holy spirit would have been QUOTED . For him Not to have quoted it, He was applying verse 8 to the TRINITY. Told you this without number, when will you learn ??


Such a verse existed and he could only make reference to ONlY a phrase ?? Guy.... Go and pray

Emusan:
Shameless lying mouth will never repent

Nothing to say about his ISV again.

No wonder he was so bitter over this thread.



See this nitwit, who needs to go back to primary since you couldn't understand simple English.

"IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST"

Was verse 8 ever about the Father, son and Holy Ghost?

This question will continue to kill you which is the reason you can't answer.



It's the only COMMA the three persons of the Holy Trinity said to be ONE "And THESE THREE (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) are one"

Take to your dull skull again, v8 is "agree in one"



He said "IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST" does v8 has any connection with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?



Shameless liar and hypocrite!

That is the original translation of his work to English.

Olodo oshi...

But you know more than the people who translated it and put the footnote as v7

Even Fulgentius Ruspensis referred to Cyprian statement which is still about Trinity.

Fulgentius bishop of Ruspe in North Africa (died 527 AD) cited the Comma, even referring to Cyprian’s citation of the same:

In the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, whose unity of substance we accept, are confident not to confound the persons. For the blessed John the Apostle testifies, saying: ‘There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and the three are one. This is also confessed by the most blessed martyr Cyprian in the letter On the Unity of the Church, saying: ‘He who breaks the peace and concord of Christ, he does against Christ’, who in another place says in addition to a collection of the Church, says, ‘scatters the Church of Christ’. And in order to show that there is one Church of the one God, he immediately inserted this into the testimonies of the Scriptures: ‘The Lord says: I and the Father are one. And again: of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit it is written: And the three are one.’”

Shameless fraudster and liar trying to discredit Cyprian evidence with his tiny skull full of sawdust.

Not even that he really agrees with Cyprian doctrines because Cyprian and many early Christian writers are Trinitarian but just wants to keep fooling himself.

Hypocrite!

That u went ahead to indicate in a footnote that it's verse 7 proves you are indeed a Fraudster, If I didn't challenge you on who make that reference, You would have made it seem Cyprian himself did. Fraud

Emusan:
Shameless lying mouth will never repent

Nothing to say about his ISV again.

No wonder he was so bitter over this thread.



See this nitwit, who needs to go back to primary since you couldn't understand simple English.

"IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST"

Was verse 8 ever about the Father, son and Holy Ghost?

This question will continue to kill you which is the reason you can't answer.



It's the only COMMA the three persons of the Holy Trinity said to be ONE "And THESE THREE (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) are one"

Take to your dull skull again, v8 is "agree in one"



He said "IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST" does v8 has any connection with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?



Shameless liar and hypocrite!

That is the original translation of his work to English.

Olodo oshi...

But you know more than the people who translated it and put the footnote as v7

Even Fulgentius Ruspensis referred to Cyprian statement which is still about Trinity.

Fulgentius bishop of Ruspe in North Africa (died 527 AD) cited the Comma, even referring to Cyprian’s citation of the same:

In the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, whose unity of substance we accept, are confident not to confound the persons. For the blessed John the Apostle testifies, saying: ‘There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and the three are one. This is also confessed by the most blessed martyr Cyprian in the letter On the Unity of the Church, saying: ‘He who breaks the peace and concord of Christ, he does against Christ’, who in another place says in addition to a collection of the Church, says, ‘scatters the Church of Christ’. And in order to show that there is one Church of the one God, he immediately inserted this into the testimonies of the Scriptures: ‘The Lord says: I and the Father are one. And again: of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit it is written: And the three are one.’”

Shameless fraudster and liar trying to discredit Cyprian evidence with his tiny skull full of sawdust.

Not even that he really agrees with Cyprian doctrines because Cyprian and many early Christian writers are Trinitarian but just wants to keep fooling himself.

Hypocrite!

Learn to calm down , Cyprian ONLY quote " and these three are one " . U can't dispute that , and these appear also at verse 8.


If such a verse existed, he would have quoted it in full. Not a phrase , (" " ) , It's like you don't know the meaning of quote sef


Here you testify he only quoted the phrase .

" this phrase "and these three are one" - Emusan

No such verse existed. He only applied Trinity to verse 8

Emusan:


See this hypocrite!

So ISV is more accurate than your satanic translation NWT.

ISV contains the vs 7, do you agree with it?

Shameless hypocrite!



Shameless block headed JWs.

No wonder you can't simply answer my question was verse 8 about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, for Cyprian to have said "IT IS WRITTEN OF the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...?



Was this phrase "and these three are one" about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost for Cyprian could have said "IT IS WRITTEN OF...." this is the question you're dodging since and pretending as if you didn't see just because you know it exposes your lies and blocked head.

Even your fraudulent source puts "it is written" after "of the Father, of the Son, and the Holy Ghost" no wonder you couldn't provide the fraudulent source here.

Shameless lying mouth.



Your shameless lying mouth will continue to be exposed.

Here is the screenshot from the original source of Cyprian statement.

It is evident that, it was Vs 7 he quoted.

U are a fraudster , U even went to bring a document that indicated the verse he quoted in footnote, Is it Cyprian that indicated Chapter and Verse ??

Emusan:


See this hypocrite!

So ISV is more accurate than your satanic translation NWT.

ISV contains the vs 7, do you agree with it?

Shameless hypocrite!



Shameless block headed JWs.

No wonder you can't simply answer my question was verse 8 about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, for Cyprian to have said "IT IS WRITTEN OF the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...?



Was this phrase "and these three are one" about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost for Cyprian could have said "IT IS WRITTEN OF...." this is the question you're dodging since and pretending as if you didn't see just because you know it exposes your lies and blocked head.

Even your fraudulent source puts "it is written" after "of the Father, of the Son, and the Holy Ghost" no wonder you couldn't provide the fraudulent source here.

Shameless lying mouth.



Your shameless lying mouth will continue to be exposed.

Here is the screenshot from the original source of Cyprian statement.

It is evident that, it was Vs 7 he quoted.

I thought you would be reasonable by now, I was wrong . So you admitted it's only that phrase he QUOTED ??


if such verse exist , There would be a full quote. He quoted verse 8 and apply to TRINITY, that's why he only quoted the phrase alone.


I even gave you an article written around the same time which quoted verse 8 the exact same way Cyprian quoted the phrase .

finnestdope:



Don't mind her, I'm taller than her tho

But she always claims she's taller, lol

Nice one man. Some girls like it when it feels like they are been toasted all over again.

Emusan:
Now let's move to the next stage!

By bringing the support of the early Christians writers.

Let's start from the Greek writers.

Athanasius

By "Athanasius", it is meant Athanasius (c. 296 – 373 AD) or Pseudo-Athanasius (c. 350 - c. 600 AD).  Athanasius quoted the Comma in Disputatio Contra Arium:

"But also, is not that sin-remitting, life-giving and sanctifying washing [baptism], without which, no one shall see the kingdom of heaven, given to the faithful in the Thrice-Blessed Name? In addition to all these, John affirms, [b] 'and these three are one.'" [/b]

Athanasius quoted another portion of the Comma in Quaestiones Aliae:

"Even as my soul is one, but a triune soul, reason, and breath; so also God is one, but is also triune, Father, Word, and Holy Ghost....  For as soul, reason and breath are three features, and in substance one soul, and not three souls; so Father, Word and Holy Ghost, [are] three persons, and one God in substance, and not three gods."

No single full quote. Fraudsters. Verse 8 again.

Emusan:
I can see you can't provide your fraudulent source again.

Why are you ashamed of providing your fraudulent source.

And this has settled my post about Cyprian statement.



I remember I gave you a tutorial on different between verse 7 & 8 but blocked head and dishonesty won't allow you to learn, now it has come back to hunt you.

RECAP!!!

This was my previous post

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Let me also tutor you because I know you lack wisdom

This is what appears "τρεις εν εισιν" in the Comma rather than of "τρεις εις το εν εισιν" in verse 8. The Greek in verse 8 has the preposition "εις".

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The reason I brought this back is because I know you lack knowledge of the subject matter but only after lying and distracting and detailing the thread.

Now, from above ONLY in the COMMA (verse 7) you will find "AND THESE THREE ARE ONE" according to Greek used while the Greek that appears in verse 8 is translated by all versions as

"the spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. NWT

NET
the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three are in agreement.

NIRV
They are the Holy Spirit, the birth of Jesus, and the death of Jesus. And the three of them agree.

NIV
the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

NIVUK
the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

NKJV
And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.

NLV
There are three who speak of this on the earth: the Holy Spirit and the water and the blood. These three speak the same thing.

NLT
the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and all three agree.

It's evident that Cyprian actually quoted the COMMA and not verse 8 this is even in support with the MENTION OF THE THREE PERSONS OF THE TRINITY but your lying mouth said otherwise.

Quote verse 8 in the ISV , what does it say?



u are a fraud, does verse 7 contain " OF " or " the Word " either . Son and Word are the same Greek word ?

A Latin writing of Cyprians time reffering to 1John 5:8

"Moreover, I think also that we have not unsuitably set in order the teaching of the Apostle John, who says that 'three bear witness, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three are one,' ” (A Treatise on Rebaptism, Section 19).


proved that a reference to Verse 8 could contain the exact words Cyprian used. FOR A FACT, Cyprian Only quoted the phrase " and these three are one "


if such a verse existed , Cyprian would have made a FULL Quote rather than half . he definitely has no idea of such a verse.

Emusan:


No personal expression anywhere.

Where is your sources?

So where was it WRITTEN that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost was said "AND THE THREE ARE ONE"?

So the Lord says is part of what he quoted at John 10:30 ?

Emusan:


You haven't provide your fraudulent source.

But it's evident Cyprian isn't quoting verse 8

So we can ask, where was it WRITTEN that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost said to be ONE?

No such verse exist , that's why he didn't gave a full quote , but only that phrase written in Verse 8. He applied it because it fit his narration

Emusan:


Olodo..

The Lord says shows he's repeating what Jesus Christ said

It means his personal expressions , comprehend ?

Can you now admit you lied there was no personal expression in the entire quote ?

and "IT IS WRITTEN" means he's statement was already put down somewhere.

That which is written was the one in special quotes . Everything outside those quotes are Cyprian personal expressions

Emusan:


I can see the reason you people are fighting tooth and nail just to discredit Cyprian evidence.

And it's just so unfortunate how you people keep exposing your ignorance of simple English.

1. "IT IS WRITTEN" (that is someone has already jolt it done somewhere)

2. OF the Father, of the Son, and Of the Holy Ghost


3. "and these three are one"

And the COMMA says:

"For there are three who bear witness in heaven, The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, AND THESE THREE ARE ONE"

A good student of English can see the wording of COMMA in Cyprian statement except the liars.

The verse starts with BEARING WITNESS IN HEAVEN and Cyprian argument wasn't about BEARING WITNESS but centered on where THE THREE PERSONS are said to be ONE.

Personal expressions are in the quote , agree ?

Concerning which is written , Check your point 3 , there is a special quote " "

If such a verse existed , Cyprian would have directly QUOTE everything rather than a single phrase which occur at verse 8 .

Jozzy4:


The " OF the son" is more closely related to Matthew 28:19,20 , going by your alluded theory, it's not new for someone to alluded to different quotes in a single statement. Do you notice only these three are one and I and my Father are one are quoted SEPARATELY ?

Cc: Peacefullove

Thank you for this .

Emusan:


Liar, it's not his expression but what was written

"OF" is to show where the THREE PERSONS OF THE TRINITY were mentioned ALL TOGETHER and linked with "AND THESE THREE ARE ONE"

Only COMMA has it not verse 8.


Only a fraudulent person will link verse 8 with the three persons.

Linked with pure personal expression, you don't need to link a direct quote

Emusan:


Does Matt 28:19-20 have "and these three are one"

No personal expression unless to you fraudsters.

"IT IS WRITTEN of...." makes it clear that he's just referencing what has already been said.

You are the fraudster, so the Lord says is not a personal expression ?

Emusan

Original source puts it this way

" The Lord says, "I and the Father are one; " and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit ,[/u] "And these three are one."

https://books.google.nl/books?id=hMU7AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA382&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

The bold is enough to open the eyes of anyone , In the quote There exist is personal expressions and direct quotes . The direct quotes was in special quotations, The foolery of Emusan on this thread would mean The LORD says which precede the first quote was part of John 10:30

Emusan:


That's why you couldn't provide your fraudulent source.

I'm still waiting for it, and you must provide it.

I think I've expressed myself on this, and vibrant English students can see for themselves who is lying here.

Even your source could NOT bail you .


Where is " OF " in 1John 5:7 ? Where is the Son ??

Emusan:


See liar trying to cover up his lies.

What is your source, show us so that we can apply see.

Your source must be a terrible, corrupt and dishonesty one for them to twist the statement that way.

So I'm still waiting for your source.




But is there ALLUSION also?

If yes! Does that mean it's just their expression or still quote?



Fraudster...

"IT IS WRITTEN OF The Father, of the Son, and The Holy Ghost..."



That's why you'll remain liar forever.
I know you lack basic English

"IT IS WRITTEN of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost..."

Which means the three names have been linked with "AND THESE THERE ARE ONE"

That's the reason your fraudulent source put "IT IS WRITTEN" after "of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost" in other to change the narrative.



It was never an expression stop lying...

This is simple English and stop disgracing yourself on public forum.

"IT IS WRITTEN of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost..." and verse 8 doesn't have these three names.



Does verse 8 mention the THREE PERSONS?

You're trying hard to make Cyprian commits theology suicide but using wrong verse for his Trinity support.

If comma wasn't existed that time, Cyprian wouldn't have used "IT IS WRITTEN of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost..."

Verse 8 is never a reference to the three persons of the Trinity and know one has ever used verse 8 as a prove for Trinity.

The Three persons mentioned are Cyprian expression just as The Lord says was his expression . GET SOME THINKING

Emusan:


See liar trying to cover up his lies.

What is your source, show us so that we can apply see.

Your source must be a terrible, corrupt and dishonesty one for them to twist the statement that way.

So I'm still waiting for your source.




But is there ALLUSION also?

If yes! Does that mean it's just their expression or still quote?



Fraudster...

"IT IS WRITTEN OF The Father, of the Son, and The Holy Ghost..."



That's why you'll remain liar forever.
I know you lack basic English

"IT IS WRITTEN of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost..."

Which means the three names have been linked with "AND THESE THERE ARE ONE"

That's the reason your fraudulent source put "IT IS WRITTEN" after "of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost" in other to change the narrative.



It was never an expression stop lying...

This is simple English and stop disgracing yourself on public forum.

"IT IS WRITTEN of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost..." and verse 8 doesn't have these three names.



Does verse 8 mention the THREE PERSONS?

You're trying hard to make Cyprian commits theology suicide but using wrong verse for his Trinity support.

If comma wasn't existed that time, Cyprian wouldn't have used "IT IS WRITTEN of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost..."

Verse 8 is never a reference to the three persons of the Trinity and know one has ever used verse 8 as a prove for Trinity.

" oF " didn't even appear in the so called verse, neither did he use Word . I even strike through some of the post to open your eyes

You this Fraud .... Is The Lord says part of the John 10:30 quote or Cyprian expression ?

Emusan:
Here is where your lying mouth will be shut forever!!!



Now it's about ARTICLE "The"

fact remains the quote cannot be the same . Even if your source add the article " THE " , The " OF " wasn't in the verse . The use of Son instead of Word Even exposed your lies.

How many of the early Christian writers usually make QUOTE exactly as it is from the scripture?

talk about the Bible, there are many direct quotes from LXX .

You're the one who quoted Cyprian yet you didn't see "OF THE FATHER" there...that's wonderful.

Just like I said, you're just looking for a way to derail this thread which is very glaring.

You fall for the bait, I was asking where is " OF " in 1John 5:7 u claimed he quoted. is there" OF " before The Father , son or holy ghost ?? this is simply writers expression

This is how Wikipedia put

The Lord says, "I and the Father are one"
and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
"And these three are one." [52]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannine_Comma

thank You! see the quote

so according to you in the first quote we have

" THE LORD SAYS" and we also have " I and the Father are one " ... one was an expression , the other was a direct quote.

hence Wikipedia QUOTE I and the Father are one SPECIALLY ... that got a special quote .

In the second instance , ONLY " These three are one" was QUOTED .

your argument would mean even the word " The Lord says " was directly picked from the bible , It's just an expression just as Of the Father, The son and the holy ghost are the writers expression.

Original source puts it this way

" The Lord says, "I and the Father are one; " [s] and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit [/s] ,[/u] "And these three are one."

https://books.google.nl/books?id=hMU7AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA382&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false


This is how it is!

"The Lord says, "I and the Father are one; " and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, "And these three are one."



Liar, what you even called expression is called "ALLUDED" hardly early writers' quotes match their quoting WORD FOR WORD.

Majority alluded to the scripture.

Where does the idea of applying "And these three are one" to the three persons if the TRINITY comes from if not from the COMMA?

I believe you have sense to see the colored parts , I even strike some parts to help u... it's say more about this. the writer wasn't quoting 1John 5:7, but a quote from verse 8 just as the expression + the Lord says + which precede I and the Father are one is NOT a Bible quote but the writers expression

Emusan:

[s]
How many early Christians writers make FULL quote when quoting scripture?

The fact is, everyone can see the COMMA from Cyprian statement except deluded and liar like you.



You can see the reason I said you lack wisdom!

I only presented to you how the COMMA part of "and the three are one" was written in Greek and how the verse 8 part of "and the three are one" was written too.

So, if you claim it's from verse 8 then it should be in that form but if it's from the COMMA then it should be in that form.


Lying liar mouth...

I'm still waiting for the source you got your quote from and even claim no ARTICLE "the" before Son and Holy Ghost. [/s]

. you already expose your self in the next post am gonna do

Emusan:


"This three are one" in verse 8 is referencing to "the spirit, water, and blood" without the comma

So if anyone says "it is written OF the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"

Someone with working brain will definitely knows this is not verse 8 but another verse.

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Let me also tutor you because I know you lack wisdom

This is what appears "τρεις εν εισιν" in the Comma rather than of "τρεις εις το εν εισιν" in verse 8.  The Greek in verse 8 has the preposition "εις". 

Now, show us the Greek writing of Tertullian let's see whether it's in line with the COMMA or verse 8.

the funny thing is you admitted he wasn't quoting it FULL earlier which even add more doubts to your claim. if such verse existed, he would have done that .

now here you are claiming Everything he said was Directly Quoted @ bold . contrarily you claimed it wasn't a full quote in a previous post


you are confused .

Emusan:


"This three are one" in verse 8 is referencing to "the spirit, water, and blood" without the comma

So if anyone says "it is written OF the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"

Someone with working brain will definitely knows this is not verse 8 but another verse.

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Let me also tutor you because I know you lack wisdom

This is what appears "τρεις εν εισιν" in the Comma rather than of "τρεις εις το εν εισιν" in verse 8.  The Greek in verse 8 has the preposition "εις". 

Now, show us the Greek writing of Tertullian let's see whether it's in line with the COMMA or verse 8.

you are a Liar , If that was a direct quote , it's Word that will be there NOT Son. neither will he omit the article " The "


here is the quote



250 AD Cyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)

the bolded is that which is written but applied to his own Trinity doctrine. and the bolded appears at verse 8

Emusan:


Tertullian quoted a fraud then because "the three are one" says Tertullian and this is even a quote for Trinity

You can erase it from his work

Now you arrive at my point that Tertullian was expressing a doctrine. he never said he was quoting, that which he alluded to as written was a reference to John 10:30

Emusan:


When it's obvious you're the one having HPB here


I have told you, that it's interchangeable which is even the reason why some scholars said, he wouldn't have quoted it full because the COMMA has THE WORD instead of THE SON

even the article " THE " was interchangeable too ?? stop deluding yourself .

when you make a quote, You make it exactly as it is , If you have any intention to add anything , it will be in bracket . YOU LIED!

Says the person with low IQ

But he said "IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST"

Does such appear in verse 8?

You are a Liar, that's not what he says ... okay In fact show me " OF THE FATHER " and Tell me why the Article THE was missing in his quote in reference to Son and Holy ghost.

But he said "OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST"

he didn't , read the text again . that which is written is " these three are one " , it's the only word that appears in quote in that Statement .

IT IS WRITTEN "of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost" it was only verse 7 such text was applied to the three persons of the Trinity.

you are a Liar , Quote it the way it is . u this fraud

Where was the idea of THREE PERSONS said to be ONE comes from if not for the existence of the COMMA?

The next thing you'll ask now, is why didn't him quote the verse

Olodo...

The Comma never existed , that's why his words didn't match the acclaimed quote. he was only expressing a doctrine.

Emusan:


I've not even started presenting the evidence of the both Greek and Latin fathers yet your blood has started going higher.

Just wait until we get there.

I know you jump in for you to derail this thread but I won't allow you.

Tertulian quote is the oldest and sorry to Dissapoint you, it's a quote of John 10:30 not any fraud .

Emusan:


This alone shows that you lack knowledge of the matter at hand.

He should quote verse, when Bible hasn't been numbered or divided into verses....

Does verse 7 says Son if he was even quoting 1John 5:7 ? What happen to the absence of article " THE" in his writing when the text says " The " if it was a direct quote ??

Does verse 8 has this three are one or it doesn't ?

Emusan:


You burst your own bubble not mine.

The phrase of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is still the same as when WORD was used but "THIS THREE ARE ONE" is the most most important.



SMH..

See your fraud mouth...

He said..."and again OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST it is written "and the three are One"

So does verse 8 as you claimed has FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST?




It never existed but he said "IT IS WRITTEN"

Everyone can see your lying mouth.



Again see how your lying mouth is changing.

Does verse 8 has the wording "THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST?"

He didn't quote it you say...
What does it mean when he said "OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST, "IT IS WRITTEN"?

Do you even understand what your lying mouth is saying?

Your blood Don dey high ?

Does verse 7 has the wording " Son " ??

If comprehension is your problem , be humble enough to ask for help . That which he said is written is the " this three are one" that's the word in QUOTE. And which appears at verse 8

"the Spirit, the water, and the blood— and these three are one. " ISV

NOT OF THE FATHER, THE Son , or Holy ghost ... Those are his own expression of a doctrine, If he was making a direct quote , it would even be Word and not Son. Since that's what the fraud text says


I ask again: If such verse exist, why didn't he Quote it in FULL ?

Emusan:


Don't be stupid.

The phrase "THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT" was only used by John and can only be found in the COMMA.

If the tenent of Trinity is the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are one, that's the phrase the COMMA should carry.

The truth is, the COMMA was part of the original writing.

To further burst your bubble , If that was the phrase John used, WHY DID CYPRIAN have a different phrase ?


250 AD Cyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)


This is simply an expression of doctrine ... Such quote never existed at the time , If not Cyprian would have said THE FATHER , THE SON, THE HOLY SPIRIT. He never said this .



Mind you Cyprian evidence is weak, cos that which he said is written appears also at verse 8 . If such a verse existed , he would have quoted it in whole

Tertulian quote

Tertullian's quote, in English, says

"Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These three are one [thing], not one [Person], as it is said, 'I and my Father are One,' in respect of unity of substance not singularity of number."

He only quoted John 10:30. This isn't any quote from supposed 1John 5:7. Emusan is just a fraud .