Emusan:


See your lying mouth....

Expression of a doctrine but where does the idea comes from, if not because it was originated from somewhere?

It's evident that people are aware of it before the council of Nicea which nullified the lie that the text was first introduced in the 4th century, that's why you want it to be EXPRESSION not direct Bible quote.


You can see you're the very silly one here.

Don't fool yourself . It's an expression
If you are so sure it's a direct Bible quote, why was the verse not included in such quote ??

Emusan:


Don't be stupid.

The phrase "THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT" was only used by John and can only be found in the COMMA.

If the tenent of Trinity is the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are one, that's the phrase the COMMA should carry.

The truth is, the COMMA was part of the original writing.

The comma was never there in the first place , the phrase "The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit " is just an expression of a doctrine.

Not even Tertulian quoted it , he only applied John 10:30 to the Trinity . And for Cyprian the phrase " these three are one " also appear in verse 8 , So the argument stands that he was only quoting verse 8 and applying to his Trinity teaching.

Emusan:


I didn't wait for anyone, rather you're the one who didn't know how it was inserted.

Rather my point still stands, it was already in use before the council of Nicea.



If it was never part of the scripture, that's why I asked, how come people quote or alluded to it before the council of Nicea?

Since you requested for a proof, all you have to do is to sit and relax then wait for your proof.

Just like I said, the lies that has been sold to you is that it was inserted during the council of Nicea, so any evidence of it being used before that time should tell you what could possibly happen to the text.

This is really silly, This three are one is an expression of a doctrine . NOT a Bible quote

Emusan:


I didn't say it was inserted earlier than council of Nicea but PEOPLE ARE USING THE TEXT BEFORE THE COUNCIL OF NICEA which nullified you assertion that the text only first appeared during the council of Nicea.

Which then leads us to how people get familiar with such a text if its origin not yet known?

Of course, many references of people who quoted or alluded to the text will be provided here when I'm done collating people opinions about their understanding of the COMMA!

People are not using the text, people are expressing a doctrine .

Emusan:


So how come many prominent Christian writers who live long before the council of Nicea quoted and alluded to the same text?

Don't be silly , the tenets of the Trinity says the Father , Son , holy spirit are one . Then any such quote reffering to the Trinity could be misconstrued as though quoted from a verse when it was just an expression of a doctrine.

jmoore:
Love is self-control. You can't claim to love when you lack self-control.

Seconded

Obodo999:



You are very rude and you have no right to call people an 'expired', there is nothing as such.

While I agree a man should hv some respect when dealing with women.
The funny thing is many of them bragging online are women slaves offline. Some of them are just trying to revenge what women has done for then.

rottennaija:


Go read again

Just Answer cos the name human was given to male ND female.

rottennaija:


The weakest response I have had from you.

U are speechless u mean?

Jozzy4:


if only you could read that Genesis 5:2 . And come back, not sure you will remain the same

" He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created. "

Name THEM ( Plural) two sexes, Human.

Surely he can't remain the same if he read that right.

rottennaija:




This perfectly coined word must have really got. No wonder you are so fixated at it and keep bring it up.

Let see more
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Re 21:7 says, all who are victorious (conquerers) will inherit all these things. What things? What the holy city, the new Jerusalem brings seen verses 2 - 4.

Who are victorious (conquerers)? Who are sons (children)? Only sons inherits what belongs to the father (not friends, neighbors). Who are God's children or sons? Who are born again? (See also Re 2:7, 11,17, 26-28; 3:5, 12,21)

(Jn 1:12) However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name.

(1 Jn 5:1-4) Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God, and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and carry out his commandments. 

(Ga 3:26) You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus.

(1 Jn 4:7) Beloved ones, let us continue loving one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves has been born from God and knows God.

Take another look at the description of this new Jerusalem.

filled with the glory of God and sparkled like a precious gem, crystal clear like jasper.
Its walls were broad and high, with twelve gates guarded by twelve angels.

There were three gates on each side—east, north, south, and west. The wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The wall was made of jasper, and the city was pure gold, as clear as glass. The wall of the city was built on foundation stones inlaid with twelve gems: the first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst. The twelve gates were made of pearls—each gate from a single pearl! And the main street was pure gold, as clear as glass.

These descriptions are anthropomorphic? In that case, the new Jerusalem is anthropomorphic and the angels are guarding nothing, probably anthropomorphic angels?

These reminds me of He 11:13-16 where it says those faithful men of old were waiting for a real city, "a better place, a heavenly homeland. That is why God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a heavenly city for them."

Definitely, such city as described above wouldn't have death, tears, pains, mourning. Definitely, not anthropomorphic.

Then again, still in that same city. Re 21:22 says, "No temple could be seen in the city, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple."

Please remind this disgraced rottennaija who is God's temple as mentioned in the Christian Greek scriptures? Born again? Anointed Christians? Are the great crowd of watchtower belief God's temple? But here, Jehovah God and Jesus are the temple in this wonderful beautiful city (anthropomorphic city according to you).

It really is a wonderful privilege to be sons with Jesus, because sons (children) are heirs, heirs of the promises and the inherit everything Jesus inherits.

But it still doesn't end there. Verse 24 points out about this city. "The nations of the earth will walk in its light, and the rulers of the world will come and bring their glory to it."

So they will be Nations and rulers who would be guided by the light if this city. And the nations and rulers will bring glory to this city.

You didn't make a single sense.

Are there Male and female in heaven?

cococandy:

display this same level of energy on adulterous men.

You are right many men are hypocritical , If it were a married man, its normal. But as far as I condemn what the woman do, I will never support a cheating married man.

Ken4Christ:


Order for my book, Scriptural Revelation of Hell and your eyes will be opened.

Since your eyes is opened, are u blind to the Fact that those who died in the sea Are not in hell ?

If u can't answer that, shows that book is full of propaganda.

Ken4Christ:


You have been brainwashed and you can never understood the truth of God's word. Remain in your ignorance.

Why do u run away from the question ?

Since you are not brainwashed , Tell us what is in hell

A- Body

B- Soul

C- Body and soul


Or else you wanna show the world how deep in Ignorance you are .

Julibet:
Her bf isn't cheating, abusive or anything bad like she said then it's a matter of commitment OP. Someone said in that thread that if she doesn't sustain the maturity to know that she will always meet someone better than her present partner, she isn't fit for a relationship. I uphold that thought.

You are really making sense , But what if the first relationship is a case of pity ... And no real attraction. I can categorically say it that many women date the man they ain't really attracted to in the first place due to pressure to date .

TEAMvido:
as a lady if you think you're equal to man
you're gonna have problems in the future ..
men and women can never be ...

God didn't make that way ..

No boss , this ain't a matter of Equality but a case of Golden rule.

Good morning Nairalanders, Trust your night went well ?

I personally support commitment in relationship , And am against cheating , But at the same time I also believe Marry who makes you happy or who you think you can't live without or else u gonna be frustrated ...

I realize many people called Favour 2323 all sort of names like hoe's, bitch etc . Note that the Lady didn't say she want to double date ... Which I commend her for .


Now my question is: If it were a Guy that seeks advice concerning him meeting a New Girl that gives him peace of mind , WoULD YOU GUYS CALL HIM NAMES OR ASK HIM TO DO WHAT MaKES HIM HaPPY

humilitypays:
Ladies are their own problem.


relationship is not marriage. Until a guy pays your full dowry, you don't owe him any explanation to walk away or fvck another sweeter dick.



Why must u seek for permission from others to date a guy u find attractive for your taste.



We guys are hypocrites, we make too much noise, we want ladies to be what we can never be.


Can that your boyfriend swear that he hasn't fvcked other chicks since u guys started dating And if he says yes he has not, then he is broke, ugly, not classy



You better your eyes and explore, guys do same. Don't listen to guys opinion on this cos we are hypocrites, we want ladies not to double date while dating us but we fourtiple abi fiftiple date and heavens haven't fell.




Don't break up with your boyfriend, just flow along with both of them and stop brandishing one yeye boy that have not paid your bride price in the name of girlfriend boyfriend that most times don't lead to anywhere good at the end!!



You mustn't tell every guy you meet that you have a boyfriend, you ladies are demarketing yourselves by doing that. You are single until you are legally married!!!

While I support commitment in relationship, I also support being happy. Most of the people blaming Favour2323 are Guys, the question is: If it were a guy seeking advice , Would they blame him or ask him to do what makes him happy ?


Am aware there is double standard when it comes to women.

Ken4Christ:


Your leader is in hell seeking for ways to come back and ask you all to stop following his teachings. If you don't repent, you will join him and the others there. You will remember this post but it will be too late.

You will be disgraced on this thread last last ni.

In what form is the person in hell ?

A- His Body

B- His soul

C- His body and soul


Answer,

Ken4Christ:


Hell is not a physical grave. Our Lord Jesus talked about the gate of hell. Physical grave does not have gates. In addition, he talked about the key of hell. Physical grave doesn't have Keys. The Bible also talked about the sorrows of Hell. There is no sorrow in physical grave. If you don't believe in the reality of hell fire, you will when you get there. But it will be too late to repent.

This will expose your flawed thinking
But those who died in the sea no matter how wicked, do not go to hell, agree ?

Ken4Christ:


If our Lord Jesus physical body was transformed to a spiritual body, it will also happen to us.

You even said " IF " ... Unfounded assumptions.

Is God transformed from Dust ?

If you don't believe it, you will not experience it. And it will be too late when your rot in hell.

Eccl 9:10

" Whatever you find to do with your hands, do it with all your might, because there is neither work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the grave, the place where you will eventually go. " - NET Bible



"Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell, whither thou art hastening. " Douay

Hell is grave.

Kriss216:
Imagine going through all these for a Nigerian girl

funny guy

SmartHanif:


You're absolutely right!
But kindly withdraw your statement that "most men are not matured". Thanks!

The immatures always out number the mature ones , so what's there to withdraw?

I didn't say ALL MEn

SmartHanif:
Did she die?
Ladies pls learn to express your feelings.
RIP to the opportunities we missed due to shyness!!!

Ladies can always do this... But the problem with men, which people like Zzor is hammering on is, most men are not matured, They have loose mouth. Na everybody go know say woman toast them. Until guys correct this nonsense, women will keep holding back.

Zzor:
time can not pass me by,this is stupidity whether you accept it or not

Its not stupidity if the Guy is Matured. You are trying to be selfish - the typical female mentality that marry a guy who loves you more. But this has wound more males, as they keep getting married to women who are not attracted to them ... This women are 20% in love , while he is 80% in love . at the end she may cheat with that Ex that have her heart.

johnw47:



lying false jw
Jesus the Word of God said He would raise His destroyed body,
that is, He would raise up His crucified body:

Joh 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

And Mary was blind to the extent she can't recognize him ? Be deluding yourself

achorladey:


False claim

. yeah.

achorladey:


False claim but you are allowed to ORCHESTRATE . No problem.

I will repeat when you are done ORCHESTRATING you will see

And you that have SENSE don't know that THOSE that BELIEVE in IMMORTAL SOUL still believe JESUS died for THEM as a RANSOM

False claim . thanks.

achorladey:


And you that have SENSE don't know that THOSE that BELIEVE in IMMORTAL SOUL still believe JESUS died for THEM as a RANSOM

False claim.

You didn't answer the question: Did they also agree the Messiah pour his immortal soul to death ??

achorladey:


I am not the one ORCHESTRATING. When you are done ORCHESTRATING you will see this clearly..........

And you that have SENSE don't know that THOSE that BELIEVE in IMMORTAL SOUL still believe JESUS died for THEM as a RANSOM

And they believe the Messiah pour his soul to death ??

SweetCunt97:
Whatever. Anything to make the man superior to the woman.

Am a man myself, Am not really in support of a man taking a cheating woman back if he wants divorce, but the problem is The double standard the men here are exhibiting, They said a woman's body is sacred, What about theirs ??

achorladey:


Peacefullove: Pay attention to your teaching , for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you ... u no see am For bible?

Achorladey: From Who/what qualify CHRISTIAN to SALVATION .

Peacefullove: Why is knowledge attached to Salvation?

Achorladey: Are we talking about SALVATION or what QUALIFY a CHRISTIAN according to you is not BELIEVING in IMMORTALITY of SOUL.

Peacefullove: My point is clear. If you don't believe Jesus summit his soul in death , for you as ransom... You are not a Christian

Achorladey: For the BOLDED......And you that have SENSE don't know that THOSE that BELIEVE in IMMORTAL SOUL still believe JESUS died for THEM as a RANSOM

You will soon go back to your ORCHESTRATION which is what was bolded.

The same way they believe ordinary body of human dies while the real person goes to heaven or hell. Body or soul , what dies ?

I already prove that notion @highlighted false. Nobody dies in the immortal soul theory. As far as they are concerned , the Messiah never pour his soul to death as Isaiah prophesied. This is why I asked- How does the Messiah pour an immortal soul to death ? Immortal doesn't relate with death.

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