₦airaland Forum

jaephoenix:
A defeatist attitude. If you have facts, do let us have it. You never know. You could change my minds if you have legit response

Probz:
And where do you come from?

Maynman:
There is zero evidence in this video but jst talking about the physical qualities of yahweh using "nostrils" as main reference lol.

For proper scholarship work, check this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=URWrJuVN-HTFgxOg

Maynman:
Who are the israelites and what makes them ancient?

They worshipped local gods then not "religion"

For proper knowledge on religion and how it evolve ,check this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio

Again, can you show me where you read "israelite religion" from

Maynman:
Can you bring out where you read "israelite religion" from

preciousee17:
Haha, even if you did, you'd be spun around a circle until you realize your answers could never be accepted

Maynman:
There is nothing like "israelite religion"

Maynman:
What are the speculations?

MindHacker9009:
Then the god you are referring to that mated with Mary another man's wife would also have mated with Eve and told Adam not to touch Eve until after she has given birth.

Empiree:
if you read this thread more your will see that Yorùbá Muslims and Christians are tolerant only if Muslims don't claim their rights or if muslims remain silent on politics and religion. So what they mean by tolerance is in as much as Muslim are cheated and smiling, attend church with their friends, family, listen to church prayers etc. Then Yorùbá people are "tolerate". But the moment muslims say they want to use hijab at schools and public places, they want to contest in election, they want to build Islamic banking, they want to created employment etc, then muslims are intolerant and they want to Islamize Nigeria. You get it?. This ongoing Muslim-Muslim ticket saga should already have you a clue. And besides, if you want to know who's tolerant and who is not please read 1994 Christian manifesto and pay attention to what they said thein. Sheet you read it, kindly return here and tell me Christians are there most "tolerant" people..

You can find their manifesto in one of my threads.




whatever happened, question remains the same
. Why only Christians that are complaining?. The same thing affected Muslim mission schools and we don't hear Muslims complain.

Example of tolerance is, Tinubu goes to church with his wife to pray. This is what Yorùbá called tolerance. But did you ever seen his wife, Remi Tinubu followed him to mosque to pray?. If his wife followed him to mosque Tinubu wood be called extremist and intolerant for not allowing his wife to practice her religion.

So there idea that Yorùbá people are tolerate is a scam.

Empiree:
CHRISTIANITY and CAN Intolerance In Nigeria

Probz:
I’ve researched this topic for time and my understanding is that there's three distinct groups in Anioma (Delta Ibo) - two Edoid-Igboid (Ika, Ukwuani/Ndokwa) and one Igbo proper (Enuani), that the latter (the only genuine, authentic Igbos who inhabit Delta Igboland) can be found around Asaba/Oshimili/Aniocha area, that "Bendel Igbos," as my mum calls them, (Ika and Ukwuani people) are culturally Edoid groups who happen to speak Igboid languages and that close proximity and the vague similarity in language is why a people who are essentially Bini are lumped in with the real Delta Igbos (Enuani). In exactly the same sense as that if true Yorubas occupied an area in (let's just say) Delta State with Igalas and Itsekiris, all three groups would all be known as "Delta Yoruba" since they're all linguistically Yoruboid and because they'd share neighbouring proximity with each other, forgetting that there's only one true group of Yorubas who inhabit that area - i.e., the Yorubas, not the other two non-culturally Yoruba groups who happen to speak Yoruboid languages (and not even Yoruba proper).

I tend to agree with the assertion that one and only true Igbos of Anioma are Enuani since I've encountered Enuani Igbos who hail from Asaba who are in literally every respect just as Igbo as a typical south easterner from Enugu or Anambra and the Ika-Ukwuani (Bendel) stock people who speak languages that share similarities with Igbo but who you couldn't in a million years imagine sipping palmy and chopping nkwobi in Ishiagu and red cap.

Ditto for Rivers folk. I know authentic Igbos can be found in the Bonny-Opobo axis (said to be, at least in part, descendants of settlers from the Awka-Orlu axis) but as for Ikwerres, does the fact that they happen to speak an Igboid language mean that they're also culturally Igbo (or at least before the civil war) and could someone fill me in on the other Igboid/Igbo groups of Rivers (Etche, Ndoni, etc.). I've looked for info. online and there's next to nothing on Wikipedia at least for Etches.

My question is, could someone fill me in on the Ikas and Ukwuanis of Delta and the Ikwerre, etc., of Rivers? Ika and Ukwuani definitely don't fall under the banner of Igbo proper but Igboid in a linguistic sense (even if you might well argue that their dialect is more intelligible than Nsukka/Ebonyi dialects) but are these people culturally Igbo or Edoid, etc.? I've only researched this for some time so my understanding's limited but that's the conclusion through reading and my own experiences with some of these folk.

Maynman:
Watch this video on the history of "God of old testament"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=RV3B7s7sL_KMzE24

AbakalikiPress:
Hhaha, this one you posted is the "Modernist" version of Igbo territory.
Ethnologists are not stupid.

Again, look at ANOTHER map of TRUE speakers of Igbo. Not political Igbo.

Again it agrees with all my points. Northern Enugu - OUT. Ebonyi - OUT, Anioma - OUT, Arochukwu - OUT
Again, let me mention that it isn't accurate, but it is close.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4161/34503715495_7c29a0ae0d_b.jpg

In rivers, only the Omumma general area is there. Ikwerre, Ekpeye and Etche are out.

AbakalikiPress:
Guy, are you even Igbo?
Youa re only trying to save face.

Every serious academic work confirms everything i have been saying on this thread while you remain there and keep lying to all our very faces.
The true Igbo believes in ''Egbe'belu - Ugo'belu'' i.e Live and let live.

But these days, Igbos like yourself and others have become desperate land grabbers looking for relevance everywhere.

Look at a comprehensive Linguistic map of Africa by Ethnologue showing language areas.
Even though it isn't 100% accurate but it is close.

Notice that a good chunk of Ebonyi state and the Aniomas except the Asaba Area are not even classed as Igbo speakers. Neither are the Ikwerres and some others.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4181/34117881860_6631699f9c_b.jpg