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I think the issue of Awolowo and Achebe as regards "There was a country" has been over-discussed. There are hundreds of Nairaland threads which addressed the issue you are bringing up already.

Hope this guys resolve their political differences. Ekiti state is just picking up developmentally, the last thing she needs is violence.

I want to believe this is a synopsis of a wannabe writer's first novel, else this is rubbish.

The beauty of internal democracy

1.Nwabueze Ngige-Apc

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Most of the new roads being constructed in Lagos at the moment do have closed drainages. The ones you do see with open drainages were constructed at a time when there wasn't much attention to beautification.

The particular one you posted is also a form of closed drainage just that the slabs weren't fixed to the sides of the drainages. One of the reasons they are partly damaged might be due to the activities of telecoms companies laying cables and also our lack of maintenance of infrastructures.

Open drainages are actually an eyesore and I think the goverment and invividuals should take a collective responsibility to closing up existing open drains. Nothing bad if landlords decide to cover the drains in front of his houses, the only problem however might be uniformity and aesthetics.

Apart from aesthetics, open drainages makes it easy for people to dump objects in it and when blocked is not good for public health

We have the raw materials needed in the automobile industry but I am afraid this policy should be looked into properly

Cost of production in Nigeria is generally higher than in China and some other Asian countries - so the automobiles produced may be more expensive

There is insufficient competition in the local automobile industry, if these policy is not effected properly we might be having another monopoly

The average consumer might be affected negatively. The cars produced locally would likely be more expensive that their asian counterparts,

Nigerians have a negative orientation to locally produced goods that require complex mechanisms, which means there would still be high demand for foreign made cars, subsequently the cost of such cars would increase. At the end of the day buying a car might be more than an affordable luxury for an average Nigerian.

My opinion. I go with Afam4eva and CFCfan's suggestion.

A recent example of PDP's internal democracy is the Anambra gubernatorial primary. The PDP primary was so internal it produced two candidates. So much for internal

Good news, all we want to see is the road and not the politics of it

For your information I served in Obi Local Government council in 2008 and it was a peaceful town.

Very informative thread. Pictures speak more than a thousand words. Good job OP and other contributors. When you are done posting Akpabio and Fashola's government projects, do post projects in which the two governors have initiated with the private sector or involved the private sector in, we need to make a comparative analysis of that too. PPP is a salient need in effective governance in Nigeria. These are the threads we need in the politics section

This seems to be his opinion

Wow, I hope calm retuns soon. I still remember my PPA Obi town. I hope the corp members and Obi people are safe. Obi was quite peaceful when I served there. This goes to show no place in Nigeria has a permanent peace stamp.

I served in Nasarawa, and there were epidemics even at that time, and it was a PDP government. Cholera doesn't choose its host based on party affiliation. The problem with Nasarawa is not political party related but dearth of innovative ideas for development. I don't know what this present governor is doing, but Aliu Akwe Doma (hope I got his name right) was far from impressive. I just hope the present guy is working cos Nasarawa peeps are wonderful, they made me fall in love with mid-belt/northern Nigeria

@OP your topics are always divisive and filled with intellectually puerile conclusions. Learn from the likes of Naptu, Maximilliano, Rossik. I don't always agree with their views, but their threads are usually educative.

If that is a prison , then this is a humane facelift from what our typical prisons look like in Nigeria. Thumbs up Akpabio. Can you also post the pictures of Akwa Ibom's NYSC orientation camp

This view by Putin is quite balanced in my view

pheesayor: I stepped out for lunch and decided to take pictures of a portion of the said "borno road". This is off alagomeji bus stop on muritala mohammed road. If this thread isn't out of mischief, I wonder what else it can be

Thanks for the pictures, these roads dont look as bad as OP made it to be.

Isnt it better to post the pictures of the road and state what your local needs are exactly, and leave it at that. Using political affiliations as a reason for the non-rehabilitation of your road seems simplistic, going by your logic one will assume any area with bad roads in lagos is a "pdp stronghold", in that case pdp must be topping ACN in "stronghold" numbers because we sure still have a lot of bad roads in lagos. The area I am based in at the moment is a core PDP domain, yet most of the roads in my immediate area were rehabilitated or constructed to taste last year. "Someone said this", "top AD guy said that", "Tinubu said those" are speculations that wouldnt bring required solutions.

franchizy: We call on all Nigerian youths to remain law abiding and never allow yourselves to be used to hit the polity.

Good to know we now have facilities for "hitting" the polity

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This seems to be a good idea. What happens to the tolls thereafter? Will it be reduced or wiped off totally. There is need for more information on this issue, hope Naptu comes to shed more light

pro01: 4. If these 'undesirable' service-providers are banned, in spite of the absence and improbability of alternatives, what will be the effect on the welfare, well-being, and quality of life of the populace, who inevitably suffer the trauma and hardship associated with unmet needs?

You have made some points which I agree with and others which i dont agree with. True leadership is pragmatic, true followership is ideal. There are so many times we assume our imagination should be an expectation but the realities on ground makes it impossible.
That something illegal crept up out of a necessity doesnt make it legal. You do see people living in shanties under high tension lines. It is a slight on the government as it shows there is a problem with affordable housing and a poverty issue lurking behind, however i would still support any government who clears people off those shanties out of safety concerns because life is paramount. In enginering it is "safety first".

I still like fashola, he has made more positives than negatives in Lagos, that doesnt mean he his perfect as his critics are sometimes right too.

pro01: You people excel at talking a lot without saying anything meaningful.

The OP's point is extremely clear, and she used a few examples to illustrate her point about Fashola's insensitivity and thoughtless approach to governance. why not address the specific issues SQUARELY instead of dribbling yourself into a hole with needless circumlocution.

1. Mairuwa (water vendors) have been banned, even though most parts of the state DO NOT have access to pipe-borne, portable water supply. What should residents in these areas do? What is the sense in banning their only source of water supply BEFORE putting in place an alternative? if pipe borne water was widely available across the state, would anyone bother to patronise water vendors?

2. Okada and Kede Napep were banned in most major areas (not merely "major roads" ) in the state. Since then, milions of ordinary Lagosians have been subjected to tortue and hardship in commuting around these areas, especially since the taxis are insufficient and TOO EXPENSIVE to serve as viable alternatives for short-haul commutes. What is the sense in banning okadas and keke napep without FIRST putting AFFORDABLE and SUFFICIENT alternatives in place? If taxi cabs (which are the only real alternatives to okada and keke for inner-city transportation) were widely available and affordable (as is the case in Abuja), most commuters would not complain too much.

Now, from these examples and several other examples of Fashola's dictatorship, it is clear that ONLY the poor and struggling Lagosians bear the brunt of state oppression and maltreatment. The rich and middle-class minority have bore-holes in their houses for water supply, while they also have private cars (and can afford regular taxi rides) for their transportation needs. What are the poor majority supposed to do? Suffer in silence, or wait endlessly for the governor to think up solutions or alternative measures to address their plight? Is that how serious governments elsewhere operate? By putting the cart before the horse?

I have made my opinion clear subsequently. I wouldnt describe myself as being poor definitely, but the issue of Okada like some other bans have affected me as well. I know how okada helps to make business appointments faster in Victoria island in places where SUV wouldnt be of help, yet I was one of those who clamoured for a ban on okada prior to the state's ban. why? Okada was never designed for commercial transportation, it is neither a safe nor sound option. My life is more important than meeting clients on time. The problem i have with Fashola most times is making bans without making sufficient alternatives. I do not have a problem with the ban, it is the inadequacy of the alternatives I have issues with

joseph1832: You point was well stated. And you said it yourself that the poor feel the pain more than the wealthy. And just so you know, the working class can't really be said to be poor.

Yeah, what i meant by working class is our newly modified & glorified middle class. I do not doubt that the poor are feeling it more, but that is not exclusive to the Lagos' society. In all societies the poor are always the most vulverable to effects of policies, it doesnt however mean the intention of the policy makers was merely to deal with the poor. We expect our political leaders like Fashola to make more people oriented policies, but how can something be made better if they dont even make an effort.

joseph1832: But when these so call mistakes only affect a particular cadre of people doesn't that call for suspicion or better still questioning?.

It hasnt been one sided bro. Keke marwa was banned in areas where our working class is located. Toll gates were installed for roads constructed in highbrow areas. Sure the poor have had their bad share and will feel it more cos they do not have much options, but these lagos where i live in doesnt set policies exclusively for the purpose of affecting the poor.

Fashola has not changed, he has been consistent with his policies, the problem is we are beginning to feel the effects day by day. That is the price we have to pay to set things back in motion for effective development. Sure in the process he has made a lot of mistakes, but how else would Lagos have been better if he had not taken the bull by the horn. You need a strong man to lead Lagos and Nigeria in general; all the Awolowo and Azikiwe we praise today were equally criticised in their times yet the end justifed the means they employed. They also made mistakes, but they sure made more successes than errors. I understand some of Fashola's policies are affecting you negatively, but more of those policies are also making your life better.

Imanuelle: no be small national career

Lol, my bad. Carrier

Not a verified news though, but which news is verified in Nigeria. i guess that airplane is part of the new national career

This is where Nigerian politicians are smart, they make big promises before election, if they win they use the first few years to play around, under the guise of correcting what previous administrations destroyed. When election time for the 2nd term comes they start fulfilling some promises so as to curry the favor of the masses. If they win, then back to square 1, the ugly mediocritic cycle continues.

The plans to build the new refineries are in the pipeline. The 'pipeline' is where politicians incubate their promises.