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majamajic:
What Barca did for Messi , if it's Christiano he will do more than that , look at what he did for the boy that allowed him to score making scout to pick him to sporting

Ok don't compare Messi with Ronaldo in terms of generosity

U can compare them in football not in giving , now he left his 5 star hotel for coronavirus patients

majamajic:
Which area of Lagos.


Meanwhile Ronaldo is donating blood every month to foundation, that's why he can't draw tattoos

majamajic:
Messi never ever give out , nothing more nothing less

Godx:
Suarez vs Eto who are you taking

Godx:
Here's an actual tough question:


Would you take prime Messi - Xavi - Iniesta (2011) or prime MSN (2015)?

Dayodragon:
Which other winger or Midfielder has more assists than him if he's just a goal scorer? sometimes you guys comment like imbeciles

Yakenn:
And somebody is not reciprocating the same magic in the national team where he has super players too. What changed? And the other single handedly helped a mediocre team to win trophies in Europe where the likes of Germany and Spain has been dominating for years..
The answer is simple, he explore new things and succeed. He is afraid of change. My brother messi move your ass off barca's team and watch your career fall like pack of cards...For Cboy, u r a wonder

Jokerman:
That's not a lie... Check the stats... And stop posting erroneously here..
As at when Ronaldo left Madrid up to this season, Ronaldo was highest Madrid assister ever...

Why not check the stats before posting rubbish here??

Benzema becomes top assist provider (132) in Madrid’s history surpassing Ronaldo


With his assist against Osasuna, Benzema becomes the highest assist provider in Real Madrid's history (132) surpassing Ronaldo (131)

Real Madrid Osasuna (Feb 9, 2020)

Jokerman:
Benzema just passed him about 2 matches ago...

Jokerman:
Did he playmaker better than James Rodriguez or Toni kroos or Arjen robben at that world cup??

Lica2baby:
I love Ronaldo because he is so good looking, handsome and sweet but Messi plays better jare

tyup:
you dont need that much to be made for life, start little n start building

ddippset:
GOAT battle on Marca.

Semi final stage.

FirstbornWds:
You'll just talk sometime and I'll wonder if you considered that you'll be embarrassed with your verdict.

So, even though Rknaldo was more of a provider, he still couldn't beat Messi assist rate. Little wonder why he is even within that range.

Oya, bring out the laliga stats. Let's open Sarah bank's legs for ourselves.

Jokerman:
Even when the highest competition in 2012 was Euros, and Iniesta won euros golden ball??

I laff at you bro

Jokerman:
Oga Ronaldo has not been consistent in one club... He has played in 4 clubs, so the number if games is bound to happen and Ronaldo wasn't naturally a forward, he was a provider and chance creator at sporting and man utd days

Let compare their laliga statistics

Martinez39s:
Well, there is no need arguing with people who try to conflate simple defeats with the terms "choking" and "bottling up". You don't really understand these terms. "Choking" and "bottling up" don't just refer to any defeat and poor turnout from a player. The 5-0 defeat wasn't a choke or bottling up; it was a simple defeat by the the better team. FC Barcelona were the best team in the world at that time, and were almost unplayable. How can you be the best player on the planet and still choke and bottle up in matches in which you played for the better team and built huge advantages? Wasn't Argentina the better team when they faced Chile twice? They had their chances but Messi choked. In addition to building huge advantages, wasn't Barcelona the better team against Roma and Liverpool? Yet Messi choked and bottled up those matches. Way more often than Messi, Ronaldo turns up when he is needed the most, even against big teams. Also, Ronaldo rarely, if not never, chokes or bottle up things like Messi and his teammates have done on some occasions. Do you know how many times Ronaldo has masterminded comebacks or helped his team at very crucial moments when it mattered the most?

Let's take the game between Real Madrid and Juventus in 2018 to explain "choking". Ronaldo was given a late minute penalty to win. Had he missed, we could have said he "choked.''

Martinez39s:
It's not my fault that you don't understand my argument. No one is saying Messi hasn't performed against big teams; and no one is saying Ronaldo hasn't lost matches against big teams. What is wrong with you people? Can't you guys logically follow arguments? All I am saying is way more often than Messi, Ronaldo turns up when he is needed the most, even against big teams. Also, Ronaldo rarely chokes or bottle up things like Messi and his teammates have done on some occasions. Ronaldo has done this more frequently that football fans associate him with the big occasion and the man to call upon when the team needs a saviour.

In all the matches you and the other guy claimed Ronaldo choked, Ronaldo's team ended up winning. At least if Messi will choke, let his choking not give his team a defeat. Ronaldo has never choked and got defeated. Even against Chelsea, he scored in the match and Man Utd ended up


He didn't choke or bottle anything. Barça were simply the better side in those El Clasicos. By the way, Messi didn't lead Barça to win 4-0 at the Bernabeu, he didn't even score. Messi came as a sub in that match after Barcelona were 3-0 ahead (I think). Madrid's poor performance was due to Rafael Benitez. When he left and Zidane came, didn't Ronaldo score the winning goal at Camp Nou that same season in a 2-1 victory? Where was Messi? Messi didn't even score in the 5-0 victory, but he performed well just like others.

Stop lying. In 2011, Barcelona won 3-1 after losing 2-1 to Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium. Messi scored two goals. Before that, an unfair red card was given to Van Persie early in the second leg before Barcelona scored all their goals. Van Persie was causing a lot of problems for Barça's defence.

It was in 2010 that Messi scored four against Arsenal. Before that awesome display at Camp Nou, Barcelona drew 2-2 with Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium. Funny enough, Arsenal did a comeback after Ibrahimovic scored twice to make it 2-0. There was no comeback. Finally, Messi choking has cost his teams on many occasion, and he has bottled up a lot leading to his team's downfall. Same can't be said of Ronaldo. Also, Ronaldo, way more than Messi, has resurrected his team against tough opponents when all hope was lost, and when he was needed the most. We can agree to disagree. I won't argue with you again.

Martinez39s:
Stop being dishonest. We all know that players do lose games and have a bad form in certain matches, but do you know what it means to choke? Can Ronaldo be in a team and his opponent will comeback from a 3-0 deficit? Can Ronaldo be in a team and AS Roma will overturn a 4-1 deficit? Can Ronaldo miss penalties that will cost Argentina Portugal two Copa America Euro titles?

Even though both players are match winners, we have seen Ronaldo resurrect his team when all hope seems lost way more often than Messi those. Against Wolfsburg, Ronaldo singlehandedly came resurrected Madrid after a 2-0 loss in the first leg. He did the same for Juventus against Atletico Madrid. He didn't fumble when taking that late minute penalty against Juventus in 2018 to see Madrid through.


Ronaldo might have lost matches, but he has never choked. Never.


Was Ronaldo the GOAT at that time? Has he reached GOAT level in 2004? Btw, his performance wasn't poor in that match unlike Messi when Messi chokes.

Both players had a poor performance. Messi couldn't manage a goal in the 2010 world cup. Tevez, Higuain and the rest were carrying Argentina along.

The Spanish side were the best team in the world at that time, and they were almost unplayable. Portugal were the only team to squeeze a draw from them, but penalty is a game of luck. Ronaldo waiting to take the winning penalty isn't a bad thing, teams have done that with their best players during a penalty shootout... winning pk is reserved for the best player. We saw that when Didier Drogba took the winning pk against Bayern Munich in the 2012 ucl final.

He didn't choke.

He was injured in the final after a collision and had to be taken off, how was it his fault? Have you forgotten that Ronaldo's goals in the group stages prevented Portugal from elimination during the group stages?

Was his performance poor? It just one of those matches lost. You will never see Ronaldo choke and bottle up an advantage. You need to understand what choking and bottling up means.

Lol.

You conveniently left out the fact that Ronaldo played in the semifinal where he scored a hat trick against Switzerland to give Portugal a 3 - 1 victory. Switzerland were the better side but Ronaldo made the difference.

Are you serious? Ronaldo scored against Chelsea in that match. Man Utd ended up winning the final. Where is the choking and bottling up here?

Ronaldo didn't choke or bottle anything, and his performance wasn't bad.

You mean against FC Barcelona? In the first leg at the Bernabeu, Madrid were robbed by the referee and the theatrics of Barça players.

Ronaldo scored Madrid's only goal in that 2-1 defeat. He got sent early.

Where is the choking and bottling up here? Ronaldo scored a penalty in that final and Madrid won. This is not the first time you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a game he scored in, and his team won.

The penalty won Madrid the cup. Remember that Ronaldo was fieled while injured. If carrying the pressure of a winning penalty is easy, why did Messi choke against Chile twice? Once again, you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a match he helped his team win.

Once again, you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a match his team won. His performance on that final wasn't bad, he just happened not to score.

Before that match, Ronaldo helped Juventus overturn a 2-0 first leg deficit against Atletico Madrid. Against Ajax, Ronaldo scored all Juventus's goals in the 3-2 aggregate lose. Didn't he try?

I can give you this one.





No one is saying Ronaldo doesn't fumble. It all boils down to the fact that Ronaldo, way more often than Messi, turns up when it matters most even in big games.

pu7pl3

Martinez39s:
••• Barcelona didn't deserve the 2009 ucl trophy. They cheated Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the semifinal.
••• Barcelona didn't deserve the 2011 ucl trophy. They cheated Real Madrid CF in the semifinal at Santiago Bernabeu with their theatrics and referee's assistance.

The only one they deserved is the 2015 ucl trophy.

stuff46:
Ewu Gambia gerrat of my mention

stuff46:
Smh for this guys above

Life is more than Cr7 and LM10 my brothers.
The whole world is struggling to be alive and you lots are here bantering about who miss and who no miss. Smh

Brothers, there is more to life than banter... Reasonable convo on how to be alive after the pandemic will help.

pu7pl3:
It also mattered during all this time below

He hasn’t scored an away goal in the Champions League beyond the round of 16 since April 2, 2013, when he scored in a 2–2 draw against Paris Saint-Germain in the quarter-final.
Messi has since played in nine away knockout matches beyond the last 16, failing to score in any of them.

In 2009 Barcelona played Chelsea in the Champions League SF. Messi was absolutely horrible, failed to score home or away. This was the born of Uefalona, Chelsea were denied 4 clear penalties. Barcelona should have been eliminated and thus this CL win is void.

[color=#006600]Who gave inesta the assist for the dying minute goal?

In 2010 Barcelona played Inter in the CL semifinals. Messi, as is often the case with him in big games was absolutely rubbish. He recorded ZERO assists or goals over the two legs and Barca were eliminated.

In the 2010 World Cup, Messi played 5 matches. In all the tournament combined he scored a grand total of 0 goals, “ZERO” in five matches and registered a single assist only. Argentina were eliminated in the quarterfinals.

In 2012, Barca faced Chelsea again, but with no referees to help, they were eliminated. Messi again drank the potion of invisibility. He did not score or assist in 180 minutes, also missed the penalty that would’ve sent Barca through. Later he was found in Gary Cahill’s pocket.


I guess it was Penaldo dat gave inesta d assist for the second goal abi

In 2013 UCL semifinals, Messi again was a bystander for the entire game as Barcelona were beaten and embarrassed by Bayern 7–0. He did not score or assist in 180 minutes of play, as Barca crashed out.


Shat app , Messi was having fitness issues and didn’t even play the return leg

In 2014 UCL quarters, Messi was again his usual horrible self against Atletico Madrid. He dropped one of the worst performances of his career over the 2 legs, not once scoring or assisting. He missed several easy chances in the 2nd leg, including an easy tap in from a metre out.

In 2014 World Cup, Messi stat padded against teams like Iran, Nigeria & bosnia herzegovina in the group stages. But he had ZERO goals & assists combined against Belgium QF, Holland SF & Germany in the final. Again not showing up in big matches when his team needed him the most. In the World Cup final, Messi was through 1v1 vs Neuer. It was time for Messi to finally get the most prestigious trophy in football. But Messi, being the choker he is, missed an absolute sitter and put it wide. No one, but Messi is to be blamed for this loss.

Why can’t ur mcm pad stat against the likes of Ghana and USA in d group stage??

In 2016, Messi again put his usual UCL semifinal disaster class. This time ZERO goals and assists in 180 minutes against Atletico Madrid. The second leg away was one of his worst career games, choking a 2–1 lead from the first


In 2015 and 2016, Messi lost back to back Copa America finals with Argentina. He had ZERO goals and assists in both finals. He crumbled under pressure in the 2016 final shootout and missed the penalty. After this humiliating defeat, he took a fake retirement.

Messi had at least a goal or assist in every single game he played in the tournament barring both final dat ended up in a goalless draw....u gat no point bruh

In 2017 UCL quart finals, Messi again ghosted, this time against Juventus in the quarterfinals. He again did not score or assist in both legs. Barca were humbled 3–0 and were sent packing. His national teammate, Paulo Dybala, outshone him over the two legs.

In 2018 UCL quarters, Messi and co were again sent packing, this time, by Roma. Messi’s performance at the Olimpico will go down as the worst ever performance by a superstar in CL history. Didn’t do anything & missed an absolute sitter. Messi bottled a 4–1 lead.

At the 2018 World Cup, Messi again choked at the grandest stage of world football. He missed a penalty against Iceland, who’s keeper is a film director. He was invisible against Croatia in a 3–0 thrashing, and again, vs France as Argentina were knocked out.

In 2019 UCL, Messi stat padded against weak opposition but went missing again when the going got tough. He was knocked out by Liverpool, after winning the first leg 3–0. Another all time Champions League bottle job.
He’s is the best player in spain right now I admit but outside la liga the Argentine Frodo Baggins is shit with a weak mentality can never be my goat


Messi scored two goals against Liverpool and had had the most big chances created in the 2nd leg......stop being daft

But where was your dear Bilbo ddipshit?? Hanging out with Casper the ghost is his favourite pastime...Thanks for Cherry picking...it's very obvious you are not as bright as you like to give yourself credit for[/color]

ddippset:
I see someone spreading that big game falsehood as usual...


Ronaldo's Big games in finals and semi finals that I can think of;

1. Manchester United versus Chelsea; 2008 champions league final. CHOKED...
2. Manchester United versus Barcelona; 2009 champions league final. CHOKED...
3. Real Madrid versus Athletico; 2014 champions league final. CHOKED....
4. Real Madrid versus Athletico; 2016 champions league final. CHOKED.....
5. Real Madrid versus Liverpool; 2018 champions league final. CHOKED.
6. Portugal versus France; Euro 2016 Final. CHOKED FOR 28 Minutes then got injured.
7. Portugal versus Chile; 2017 Confed cup semi final. CHOKED.
8. Portugal versus Holland; 2019 UEFA Nations league final. CHOKED.
9. Portugal versus Greece; Euro 2004 semi final. CHOKED.
10.Juventus verus Lazio; Copa Italia final 2019. CHOKED.
11. Juventus versus Ajax; 2019 champions league semi final. CHOKED.

Good Games.

10. Real Madrid versus Juventus; 2017 champions league final.
11.Real Madrid versus Bayern; 2017 champions league semi final.



Big Game player...

Dayodragon:
Stop posting fake news.. it took Messi 2 years to bail his dad from tax evasion, who's dinho? he will rot in jail then. CR7 gives more to the poor than every other footballer.. take it or leave it.