Kobojunkie:
This is the Kind of fasting that God commanded of His people....

GOD has honored a lot of genuine fast before ISAIAH 58 AND also honored many fast after ISAIAH 58, and JESUS also never ridiculed fasting he only showed us how to remove hypocrisy from fasting and prayer.

THE question is do u at all ever wondered why GOD rejected the fasting of ISAIAH 58 and do u understand the context around it? and do u care to know why GOD accepted the Fast of an alien city like NINEVEH-----so why did God reject the fasting of his people in in ISAIAH 58 AND same GOD also demanded for a FAST in JOEL 2------U SEE-----context matters......Same GOD also accepted the fast of HEZEKIAH AND the fast of his people during the time of ESTHER in ESTHER 4 V16 "Go, gather all the Jews to be found in Susa, and hold a fast on my behalf, and do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my young women will also fast as you do.''

untill u understand those simple questions u won't get the bigger picture., u should ask ursef those questions....So stop displaying ur ignorance about fasting and study the context around isaiah 58 to know why GOD rejected that fast and accepted many of others including the fast of an alien nation....good night and stop wasting my time and the readers times with baseless argument dancing round a circle

Kobojunkie:
God Himself declared the kind of fasting He commands in Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7 . He made clear that He did not ask anyone to starve themselves of food for His sake nor does anyone who does such do so in honor of Him.

2. For a thing to have true Spiritual value it first has to be commanded by God. God never commanded any of those so-called great men you claim to know of to starve themselves of food to honor Him.


3. Remember what I said earlier regarding the conclusions you rush to regarding that which God in fact commands? Well, here again, we come to the same issue. Below is what is written in Joel 2 vs 15.
How did you come to conclude that by calling for a special time of fasting, God wanted the people to engage in starvation-diet rituals which you refer to as fasting?

4. Where is it written that Moses planned to fast when He went up to see God and ended up staying out there for 40 days?

As for Daniel, he didn't fast for 21 days. Rather what is instead written is that Daniel was depressed and so lost his appetite for fancy foods during that period.
Depression is well known to do that to people.

You should work hard to pay more careful attention to what you read in Scripture so you do not get carried away so easily by the many soundbites — lies — out there to deceive and delude you away from the Truth of God with.

As usual u ran away from truth of arguments and start cherry picking and twisting bible-------imagine discouting 21 days fast as 21 days depression---meanwhile isn't fasting also a time to depress our self and humble our spirit in honour and worship of GOD like Daniel and the people of Nineveh

THIS is what my Bible say in JOEL 2 but u have misquoted it kjv

Joe 2:12  Therefore also now[b], saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and WITH FASTING [/b]and with weeping, and with mourning: 
Joe 2:13  And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. 
Joe 2:14  Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God? 
Joe 2:15  Blow the trumpet in Zion, SANCTIFY A FAST [/b]call a solemn assembly:


SO why do u twist this simple passage where GOD demanded a fast and also differentiates it by also calling for mourning and contrite heart

Another point is that DANIEL also fasted in DANIEL 9 vs 3------ls that also ordinary mood swing and mere depression as u say?
read it below to see the word fast befor misquoting it


Dan 9:1  In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans; 
Dan 9:2  In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem. 
Dan 9:3 [b] And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, [b]WITH FASTING and sackcloth, and ashes: 
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Now, have u ever explored the whole book of Isaiah AND JEREMIAH and prelude to babylonian captivity and wickedness while in captivity and in JERUSALEM just to understand the context of ISAIAH chapter 58? cos i see u cherry-pick it just like the way Muslims cherry pick one verse and fail to understand the context, -------bro u need a lot to do. If i engage you on the context of ISAIAH 58 I BELIEVE WE WON'T LEAVE HERE cos i know u dont grasp the context of ISAIAH 58 at all AND u are running away with error and downplaying fasting as a whole....May God give u humility to search his word for clarity and not cherrypick to uphold the dogma of ur denomination------u can't understand the bible by running with one verse in isolation-----that will always birth an erorr like most Christians do today

Kobojunkie:
▢ Did God command you to starve yourself of food as David did?
▢ Did God somehow say to you that you must do as the Ninevites did?
▢ Did God tell you to do as Paul did?
▢ Moses didn't even plan to fast. It just happened that he had to be there for 40 days and ended up fasting as a result. Did God tell you to do that because it happened to Moses?
▢ Did Jesus Christ specifically tell you that you had to engage in starvation-diet fasting rituals to cast out that kind of demon?
▢ When Jesus Christ said that did He, Jesus Christ, say that the kind of fasting He wanted was of the starvation-diet kind of fasting?

2. The biggest problem with all 6 questions you asked is this. Almost all of them assume that there is some sort of tie to be made between that which was reported to have been done by individuals and that which God commands even when there is no explicit proclamation to be found made by God in any of the cases.

Jesus Christ NEVER said that what His disciples were to engage in were starvation-diet fastings. That assumption or even conclusion that because Jesus Christ mentioned fasting, he must have been talking of the starvation-diet kind comes from the minds of men and not from God or Jesus Christ at all. Not once is Jesus Christ recorded to have intentionally denied Himself food to be heard by God, by the way.

1. instead of blind argument why not Define fast according to the mind of CHRIST since u believe no one understands fast according to the mind of Christ---

2. YOU once said fast has no spiritual value, yet almost all great men of GOD embarked in fasting-which i showed you yet u implied their fasting exercise was needless, valueless or meaningless-----even ISREAL as a nation did fast of a number of occasions but u say it has no spiritual value that it's all Paganistic========then all men of GOD in the scripture who fasted must have followed a pagan practise according to you------right? that quoting u

3. then u said GOD never commanded it for any value ? what a joke u are and a proud twister of the truth of the scriptures. i dint want to reply u again cos i know your motive----------but if u ever cared about the truth of the word of God ----you won't make GOD a liar because GOD CALLED AND DEMANDed A FAST IN JOEL 2 v 12-15 -----have u ever read that part of the bible or is it just about scoring cheap Nairaland points?

''Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with FASTING, and with weeping, and with mourning: 13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. 14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God? 15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: 16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. ''

Imagine saying Moses dint intend to fast----yet he did 40 days fast twice ---will u also say DANIELS 21 days fast wasn't intended too? Probably a joke or a mistake for 21 days?

You need humility if u want to grow----and most especially, u need the fast declared in JOEL 2 VS 12-15------u need it and i prescribe it to cure ur unhealthy argument and twisting of GODS word for cheap point like a cynic that u are

Kobojunkie:
Again, God said He never commanded your fasting(starvation diets) so how can there be spiritual values to that which God never commanded? All that OP posted up there are made-up ideas that have nothing to do with God.

lol...may GOD HELP U O


1. David fasted for a reason .............can you remember why?

2. The land of Nineveh fasted for a reason after the warning and preaching of JOnah -------can u remember why?

3. PAUL fasted for a reason-------can u remember why?

4. MOSES fasted 40 days twice----------can u remember the reason especially for the second time stint?

5. Jesus told his disciple who couldn't cast out a stubborn demon----that such can only be done through fasting and prayer ---can u remember why Christ said so about fasting?------


6. can u also remember why Christ said his disciple will fast after the bridegroom is gone?---------

if u answer the 6 questions ----then we can begin sincere further study of fasting in the scripture------

Kobojunkie:
God said He never commanded your fasting(starvation-diet) rituals So how can God bless someone who proclaims a starvation-diet ritual against God's own declaration?

I only commend him for not emphasizing fast as a means for blessing like many Christians do. My point is fast has plenty spiritual value as he listed if u truly paid attention to the points he gave

HQofGilhem:
8 importants reasons we should fast to God as Christians.

8 Important reasons we should fast in faith as Christians

1) We must believe in Jesus Christ as the savior of mankind and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

2) We fast to manage the body, spirit & soul for divine health and reserve.

3) We fast to get knowledge, inspiration and revelations from the revealed Word of God.

4) We fast and pray in faith to draw God's attention over the situations of life.

5) We fast as an act of consecration, love & honouring God

6) We fast in forms of deliverance for divine favour and grace from God.

7) We fast as an exercise to enhance spirituality and discipline in the faith of Jesus Christ.

8.) By we seeking more knowledge and understanding on the principles and laws of fasting.

Amen.

i love this GOD bless you for the wisdom------unfortunately the average Christian believe fasting is mainly only for quick blessing and to fight witches and our enemies

Dtruthspeaker:


Ah! You found it.

And the correct word is churchgoers not Christians.

But finding The Way and seeing how people are is the easiest part. Brother, it's gonna get very very

And the whole world is gonna come after you with the best and worst o fEVERYTHING. E.g. the most beautiful women and all women both young and old and even ugly too, great and small traps and set ups and implication in crime or at least social condemnation while dangling bountiful harvests of corruption.

So while you are learning about how people are evil and scheming and slimy and that they cannot be trusted whether church going or not, brace up and strengthen up for this part for they coming after you.

And there is only One Way to beat them which is to do even more annoying righteosness.

And know brother, it is a fight to death that is, they are always going to come after you throughout your life until you did.

So brace up and get ready to dig in even deeper in God so that you would not fall for when you fall from here, you cannot get back up again as we are warned

So, now is the time to be playing with The Sword and Shield wearing your armours.

This is nothing but the truth! i have seen attack right in the church .....i have also received from my dream, a well known church leader /worker confronting me in my dream and daring me. i was shocked when i woke up. till today his life character hasn't convinced me to the contrary though we never crossed path - but i am careful and i always hoped what i saw in my dream was a lie. And i really love the place where u said the only way is to do more righteousness. quite encouraging

4KNGOATS:
Front page kee you for dia

MAY God help you leave that status of being an average believer.

After giving my life and consciousness to God, and actively living in faith by the help of his word, spirit and leadings, I will say the journey has been truly lonely, revealing of human motives and behaviors especially of Christians, as well as causing a lot of personal shift of mindset and priority for me.
One of the realities that quickly hit me in the face about this world of the religious is that not many people truly love GOD. I kid you not; forget about the church crowd. People who truly serve GOD in spirit and in truth are so extremely few - Jesus said the father looks for those who will serve him in spirit and in truth, but where are those set of people today?
I am particular about we Christians who go to church, even join departments or we regular members who profess Christ or work for God.

What I quickly notice by his spirit is how people serve GOD in deceit, in flesh, in deception, in terrible pride, manipulation, backbiting, hatred, subtle competition seeking vainglory and selfish motive. I wonder what will be our score card if CHRIST decides to WRITE US AS HE WROTE THE 7 churches OF Philadelphia in the book of revelation. We will amass all the condemnation of the 7 churches I suppose.

Bro, if you are lucky to have real ,selfless, spirit-filled and god loving brothers in your fold or around your Christian circles pls cherish them, help them when you can, and encourage each other to continue to grow in God's fire. Because right here it's just a lonely road and not easy as they say iron sharpens iron and two is better than one.

How did I know this? I knew as I began to pay attention to people's motive and personal values while expecting to find alignment of values or spiritual support from Christians like me, but to my surprise, we hardly care about genuine service for GOD not to talk of genuine love for brothers or far much less spiritual growth. I realize we Christians are literally stuck in the baby Christian mode where the seed of his word always drop by the way side and stony ground of our hearts. we have refused to grow and bear true fruits that Christ repeatedly hammer about - we serve mammon, personal achievement and unhealthy competition as our god. Worst still is our pollution and corruption of the word 'grace' for our selfish and shameless lifestyle without any idea of what the word truly means for our salvation.

Another baffling realization is how terrible and common it is that many churches aren't really built with the mission to foster the spiritual growth of their members, instead , the core message is to continuously impress members and stroke their egos that GODS main business is to grant their selfish motives and worldly pursuits - nothing really spiritual- nothing about the kingdom of our GOD JEHOVAH that Christ ceaselessly scream and preach about with arrays of parables and analogy. What a terrible gospel we now preach that quenches the fire of the spirit and kindles our preoccupation with worldly pursuits that even unbelievers strife for- The clarity of all these facts for me makes me understand more deeply what Christ meant by the narrow path which only extremely few work on. Extremely few indeed!

Here is the main reason for this post. Recently GOD has been opening my eyes to the truth of his word and has stirred in me the spirit to read, search and ponder on his word and I now get to understand why GOD loves DAVID so much and why David always wax lyrical and praise endlessly the law of GOD, his judgment, words and testimonies. They are actually the means by which we know GOD and the urge to share God's word will literally consume us as we daily discover new insights from the scriptures but to my greatest alarm and shock, the average Christian is not so interested in deep scriptural discussion or discovery - In fact, they get bored and quickly lose concentration and wanting to change topic when u are already animated about GODS word while sharing insights from the scripture.
NO wonder it's so difficult for the average Christian or even church goer of over 20 years to convince an unbeliever scripturally or even share their own personal testimony of a work with God.
Finally, be assured that if you wholeheartedly decide to work with God today and to reject all hindrances, lies and worldly seduction of the devil , Angels will rejoice and GOD will be so pleased with you because there are , truly , extremely few people whom God can vouch of their service and loyalty to him. You have to believe the truth of the story of Noah's righteousness in his generation

GOD actually said only NOAH was righteous in his generation and he found grace with him. That was a woeful score-card for a whole generation of millions of people. See, GEN 6 v 8 "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.... Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God"
Also, GEN 7 v 1 "And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Now I see why it was possible for Psalm 14 v 1-3 to say ''..........there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one''

So obviously, up until now GOD is still looking for that one man like Noah, Abraham, Job, David, that will be different in his generation that GOD can VOUCH for, cos GOD truly loves working with one man. You can be that man. The harvest is much but laborers are few as Christ rightly said. Thanks and God bless for reading even as you strive for his kingdom.

I wished the mods will push this to FP for people to share their lonely journey with God and encourage each other

Tayorshd87:



You are a wonderful foolish guy..

I guess u are having issue with reading comprehension

we are talking of your motive and intent for spewing a thrash u expect from a crime lover...u are here covering up with comprehension nonsense

Tayorshd87:
Yet his death is not clear what transpire between him and nairamarley and why he wanted him dead ..

And they didn't even mentioned if the guys really blow maybe he was a millionaire or blow pass naira Marley that's why he wanted him dead ...

Nothing was mentioned

animalistic lover of crime and misfortune
If u have nothing reasonable to say, can u just shut the Bleep up and stop sounding like a souless fooolish murder

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Hmmm. But someone like me have had a very deep shift in mindset about relationship. For months now i have avoided indiscriminate sex.....maybe u dont have to generalize. And i hope u are also very faithful during dating

How is paying an association dues a news? How?


APC and their Crimminal president just looking for acceptance anywhere belle face

Obaaderemi2:
Buroda, are you not a member of the obidient clan?

Yes?

compton11:
nìgga shut the fùck up!


why do u think ibos voted for that failure obi?

Is it not because of tribalism?

Why do u think they chose that useless idiot Gbadebo over competent sanwo-olu?

Is it not because of tribalism?

Is like u want to Maddd. That Ur Agbado stupidity, no carry am reach myself. The Yorubas like me who hated Tinubu with passion and voted against the fraud are the most intelligent of the Yorubas including Afenifere, prof Babalola, Obj, Adebanjo etc,..only foooolish dogs and slaves like u with eternal stuppidity will vote Tinubu whose origin can't be ascertain. Ashiere oponu. Less than a month of voting the fraud ..u are already suffering,yet u can't think with Ur head...idioot

Obaaderemi2:
Stop saying nonsense. Ondo is a Yoruba state with minority non-yoruba tribes that already identify with the yorubas. Example is Omoyele Sowore.

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The guy is a big a ignorant fooool. Even Omoyele Sowores tribe is APOI, which is also a Yoruba stock

Pocca:
I Ondo is not a Yoruba state. The part of Ondo that has oil are Ijaw, Ishekiri and Urohbo. Ondois made up of many tribes. Yoruba and deceit

Are you fooolish or stuppid? Which one?
Are you telling me about my local govt?
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Ijaw was accepted in our area Centuries ago, and when their population grew we gave them one local govt. Even my own local govt still has the longest coastline and oil...u people should stop this hate, foooolishness and tribalism.

So jungle don dey mature quick quick?

Any Agbado, Buharists or mumu BATIST who make comment on this thread should be apprehended and beaten mercilessly like a goat till they vomit grass. At last they are the deluded and foooolish opinion makers who should be banned for life from voting. You all know why. Cos those bastards thoughts Tinubu would win, thought Tinubu was a god that can't be removed, thought even rerun was impossible.
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They should be ashamed to alter a word. Same idiiots who say PeterObi can't get 1 million votes?
I feel like flog their head from now till the day of rerun or the day of booting out their drug criminal. Nonsense citizens drawing us backward

Lol. See ignorance motivated by tribalism. So you don't know Ondo State has Oil more than EDO, IMO and ABIA State in terms of contribution to crude oil in Nigeria? Lol. Nigerians are so ignorant they don't even know their country.
Only Ondo State minerals can power the whole south west if we had good governance.Ondo state even have the longest coastline for beach, hydropower and even the best for seaport, but people don't know. I won't tell you the local govt that gives Ondo State this advantage. Go find out ursef.
I don't do tribalism, infact I berate Yoruba my tribe a lot cos of their tribalism in the last election
But then since this is about tribalism let me lecture Ur fooolishness.

want u to check Ondostate resources, And keep shut Ur mouth

Same Judiciary is planning to rig in Tinubu. Wish him quick recovery
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Maybe the judgement on our corrupt Judiciary just started since they won't stop perverting justice

Jorussia:
where d hell did you get #18 to #144 from?you think everybody here is an idiot and uninformed? When obj became president dollar to naira was #105.

Engaging that fooool is a waste of time...we are praying to boot out Tinubu...the wretched foool is exhuming the stinking ghost of Buhari. He can't escape judgement.

ashacot:


Can't you see you are making yourself for*olish already?
A newspaper you posted here reported less than 60,000 deaths which obviously is a sad one.

But you claimed 800,000 died under Buhari.

Are you not retar*d?

May the death of all the 64k plus souls reported and the unreported and the underreported visit u from today since u continue to support the bringer of death. Oloshi. Oloriburuku

Fooolish OP. This is the legacy u are hailing? I doubt if it will be well with u and Buhair o

ashacot:


You smell*y obi supporter. You support a religious and ethnic bigot who till this minute support terrorists in his region and you come here to wet my thread.

Get the Bleep out if my thread. Your useless peter obi who couldn't create wealth as Governor of anambra is whom you want to rule Nigeria.

Buhari remain a national hero and there is nothing you and your fellow obbidiots can do about it.

You will continue to wail and cry like babies.

None of your generation will be close to the man Buhari's achievement.

No be only 800,000 deaths na 8,000,000,000 deaths.

Imbexil

People like you can't escape the wrath of God ...wait for it..
Ur mainstream media reported this much, we all know the actual value won't be less than X2
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May you rot in hell for lack of regard to those butchered on their farms, and in their house

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/05/insecurity-63111-persons-killed-in-buharis-eight-years/

ashacot:


You smell*y obi supporter. You support a religious and ethnic bigot who till this minute support terrorists in his region and you come here to wet my thread.

Get the Bleep out if my thread. Your useless peter obi who couldn't create wealth as Governor of anambra is whom you want to rule Nigeria.

Buhari remain a national hero and there is nothing you and your fellow obbidiots can do about it.

You will continue to wail and cry like babies.

None of your generation will be close to the man Buhari's achievement.

No be only 800,000 deaths na 8,000,000,000 deaths.

Imbexil

May the pain and death of the single soul lost under Buhari through his incompetence and connivance visit you... oloshi

Mumu Ashcot Abi whats Ur name..
The preproderance of fooolish opinion makers and ass lickers like u is a reason We will never get it.
As a matter of fact people like u should be banned for life to vote in this country. By that, we would have solved 70% of Nigeria's problem.
Now let me break down your foooolish logic and see if u will embrace sense this time.

Your father was a shameless drunk and heavy smoker ....whom the community always berate and criticize cos of the bad example he was laying for you when u were growing up....You grew up and became even a worse drunk and chain smokers....Now by your logic, u believe the community were too harsh on your father in their criticism cos you also end up as bad as your father ....does this make any sense to you...that's how fooolish you look, making this thread