Cutehector:
didnt the same bible preach that spouses shouldnt deny themselves their body or else they invite the devil to have a fieldplay in their marriage.

If i wipe you cord for neck eh.

Yes Bible said it....Bible said and command many things, but how many people obey?
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In a case my wife fail to obey, should I rape her or continue to Nag , quarell and embitter myself?
You see, that command was given to reasonable Christian family with fear of God...but today, most people are selfish and unwilling to obey instruction
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So I will Kuku turn my own to retreat and fasting...as Relationship with God is also important to me.
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If she comes back to ask me for sex...I will tell her I'm fasting and not ready. Na she Sabi.
Man shall not live by bread and sex alone.....This can only be done by Christian who loves God more than sex though. So I know what I'm saying.
After all Paul dint marry and dint die...and he even told us it is better we dint marry so we can focus on God.,cos marriage comes with trouble and cares that can distract us from God...

Kobojunkie:
All this fables are really not necessary since I can't get myself to see as you do dur to obvious restrictions in place --- Love thy neighbor as you love your own self ...

Ask Christ why he never married. Ask him why he said if u leave your brother or wife for his sake u will reap aplenty now and in age to come...
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Does that mean he hated women...?
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Stop making it seem I hate them... exposing their character flaw doesn't mean hatred....their are more important things...

Absuchat:

That's what women make us believe. It could be true if the man is not well to do. But believe me, people like Ned, Ooni, etc even Yul don't know no marital stress

Lol..
I'm sorry for you
So you live with them
Women can make a king run away from his throne....
The reason men marry more wives is cos one gave them headache, they got two, two gave them headache, they got 3, 3 gave them headache, they married the 4th...it's a cycle..that's how Solomon end up with 700wives and 300 concubines..lol...At the end he regretted it.....
So one might be okay after all

Kobojunkie:
1. Manipulative tendencies aren't traits unique to women in any way or form but you seem to have condemned all women by it indicating this is of general disdain for the gender and not of reason.

Anyways, no need to consider this any further.

Manipulation by women is of special kind and quality for peculiar purpose of getting a leverage in relationship.
Not all men are aware of this weapon possessed by all women....A man becomes weak and feminised when he can't detect this manipulative streak and neutralise it. I still stand by my personal dislike for their manipulative flaw of character. No apologies or further explanation, and it will always inform my relationship with that gender. 99.9% of them posses that power

Absuchat:

They do now oo.... But exclusively to polygamous men.
Oga ignite competition in that shit and watch them beg you for just your d1ck cap

Polygamous is another hardwork and headache for men...it's like living for women.
I think the stress is not worth it

Kobojunkie:
Romantic love? None of what you described can be construed in any way as love as you seem to have a general disdain for women and that is of hate, not love..

Platonic is best when dealing with women? Anyways... moving on now....

I don't have disdain for women
I have disdain for their manipulative tendency
Platonic relationship makes them uncomfortable especially when they feel you should be intimate with them.....It makes them question themselves...... this is from experience...
Women use sex as power too much...it's time men neutralise that power

Kobojunkie:
Your conclusions are entirely wrong as always.

I am rather commanded by God to love all men and women as I love my own self. So it is against me to want to see the world as you do.

There are different kind of love....
I was thinking u easily have romantic love with women...platonic is best when dealing with women

It's always men begging their wives for sex . Why is this so? Can't men respect themselves?
It angers me and makes me feel like how is it that women are more sexually disciplined than us, that we can't call their bluff and teach them we have better self control...
It's a disgrace for a man begging his wife for sex all the time. When we know women are more sexually depraved than men. But they pretend and hide their promiscuity in marriage and make men look like sexual demon.
I will rather become a monk than beg a woman I married with my headearned money for sex.. Just doesn't make sense. It's better I become a monk.
I think it's high time men make women beg them for sex,, it's high time we exercise high sexual discipline, cos this level of disrespect men subject themselves to is uncalled for in the name of sex.

Kobojunkie:
With your response... no point at all!

I can see u love women a lot.
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Love women and u will present urself for manipulation

Kobojunkie:
The statement in bold is why a majority of you fail in relationships. So in your mind, you are convinced that because some have made sexual advances at you, it means you are more than trained in what serious relationships are?

2. Wow... what a conclusion and a generalization at that.

Does that statement even mean I've not been in a relationship or even married?
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I'm sure u can't handle a woman like I can...
Women are waste of time most of the time....
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Men who can manage women well are men who don't take their nonsense or have attention or validation to give

Whyzaid:
OP! There is a way you will assist your woman with home chores that will send a signal to her that you want her on your lap at night. Try to be more loving sir. And I could see that you don't know her love language and possibly she doesn't know yours too, the reason why you are complaining here

Children of Ss1 giving relationship advice..
Like wtf....u trained u people... This is really sad
So your father usually washes plate before your mother will call him inside the room for conjugal duty?
What kind of deluded generation is this....
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I will rather become Monk than beg a wife for sex

Kobojunkie:
Your response does not connect in anyway as a rebuttal to what I said.

Again,Already solved? You have never been in a serious relationship before, have you?

By the way, very "Christian" of you to mention women waiting to have sex with you when queried about relationship. I can see how much sex is no longer on your mind thanks to your following your sexual purity doctrines.

Well, I'm not bothered about you judging me..
I really don't...cos I know where my heart is
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U asking me if I had been in relationship is to what end? Telling u about sexual possibility should give u a clue I'm not a novice with women....
Relationship is a waste of time, energy, and purpose ...women are too selfish and vain

Nyascobar1414:
Your wife ain't giving you sxx.but you still paying her bills.. Why are men so clueless when it comes to relationship..

Any man that is selfish and also a narcissist cant loose when it comes to vvomen...

Guide your resources and attention the way a vvoman guides her jajiana

You have a point., Especially the attention part.
U can drop minimum cash for her feeding or like divide what u used to give by 2 or 3....
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Or fast and mandate everyone must fast too...so that means u will drop less cash...Let everybody be crazing together

Kobojunkie:
Already solved? You have never been in a serious relationship before, have you?

Lol.
I'm sorry for you.
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I have more than 5 gals ready to give me sex if I told them to come visit me...But I'm no longer interested in those life style. It takes one nowhere.
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It's better to be closer to God than most of these relationships with life sucker and time waster.. it's recently I'm beginning to understand Paul's take about sexual and marriage denial

Emmyginger:

Good luck with that

Why must it be men begging women for sex
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Why can't it be the wife begging us for sex...
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I will rather fast for one year than beg a wife for sex, someone I married with my hard-earned money.
How can she be more sexually disciplined than me.....it's not possible...Na she must beg

kkins25:
CuriousMind2022, you see, you did not tell us the genesis of the situation. In one way, you'd have manipulated all of us to think your wife is the devil.. You see why people don't listen to men when they are under psychological duress?

Sorry for what you went through with masturbation and soft porn. Addicts often do not consider themselves addicted, so, it wasn't entirely your fault. The flesh easily overpowers the mind. Have you communicated with your wife?

Can u read at all? Did u read and understand this young man?
Because he took pain to explain how everything happened over a year ago which it was already solved and not related to this...yet u can't use Ur head and think...u are asking stupid question if he communicated with his wife, no he communicated to you..like, do u guys read to think?

Emmyginger:
Is this a joke or what?

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What stops a Christian from fasting for 7 days, 14 days or 21 days?
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Sex sex all the time....do u even dedicate time to get closer to God..?
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Sex sex all the time has no benefit in my opinion.
I'm gradually making fasting a lifestyle....so I don't want to get used to sex to the extent of fighting my wife for it....she deny me sex...I go into one month fasting...Na she go beg me...as I'm away with God...
She gets craze
Me sef get craze to get closer to God and hear him

Kobojunkie:
1. Stop injecting your private delusions in between the lines of what is in fact written in scripture and let Scripture read itself to you. Jesus Christ spent as much time in the wilderness as Moses and Elijah did, and nowhere is it stated that he dry fasted as you claim.

2. You do not get closer to God by going on a diet. God never said anywhere in Scripture that you could get closer to Him by going on a diet, so stop telling yourself these lies.

If I gave you scriptures u will start contradicting yourself...smh... guy u are not well....the spirit of confusion in all over u...and it's the spirit of the deceiver..Satan himslef

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Jesus fasted 4O days and 40 night...what does that mean to you it not dry fast....
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You need food or pill ..cos u no well at all...
No be me u one kill with reverse argument

Mille:
Rubbish.

By the second month, go and start getting it outside. If your income isn't big enough to accommodate sustaining a girlfriend, reduce your share of the family expenses minus those of the children and use the rest to take care of your own needs. Your own needs matter too.

Whatever you do as a man, make sure you have options.

Christians should not encourage extramarital affairs. ...it's not scriptural

Kobojunkie:
Here's a simple question. You claim you received this verse from God by doing that which God never in fact commanded of you — starvation-diet fasting rituals. And you say it helped you so far to continue in obedience and belief. Obedience to what exactly? Belief in what?

Jesus spent more time with God in the wilderness using dry fast.
So I was getting closer to God..using fast and pray..is that also a problem to you?
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Cutehector:
Since everyone wants to be mad ,


Women should learn to fast when their husbands deny them upkeep money

I'm talking as a Christian and obviously, my advice is for Christian who loves God and care about their relationship with God.
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You don't have to starve your woman for denying you sex. Just give her the minimum stipend for her feeding.

But go into fasting and improve Ur relationship with him. That act can inspire your wife

Will appreciate genuine testimony

Kobojunkie:
1. Everything I stated — except the last part which we learn instead from History itself —is exactly as revealed in Scripture though. So, if what you believe contradicts what is in fact written in Scripture, don't you see that that there means that I am not in fact the one arguing blindly here?

2. Jesus Christ told His disciples they would fast when He was gone, but what Jesus Christ never said is that they would embark on starvation-diet fasts. Remember Jesus Christ said He did the Will of God and the Will of God as pertains to fasting is as stated in Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. And Jesus Christ would never contravene God's Will. So, that you concluded, against God, that the kind of fasting which Jesus Christ said His disciples would embark on was of a starvation-diet kind, means you don't know Jesus Christ at all to have arrived at such a conclusion regarding what He said.

Mr Man ...you are not psychological or mentally okay I guess....no offense intended..
No be me u one kill with baseless argument...
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Go and tell David, Daniels , Jesus, Elijah, Paul, Ruth, Esther, etc that the fast they did was rubbish that the real fast is to do the will of God ......
You need help ..I can't help u

It seems it's a must that your wife must deny you sex at some point. So get prepared
In my opinion, men should move closer to God, and use that period of sex-denial to Fast and Pray so as to cope and ward off the vexation their wife is bringing to them.
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I pity men who can't fast and pray. Their wife go show them shege.
If after fasting 6 to 6 for 7 days and your wife doesn't calm down...increase the fast to 14 days...what this does is that Fasting makes u talk less or open to unnecessary argument and sex urge...so it helps and it also improves u Spiritually which is a big gain... instead of quaralling with your wife.
So after 14 days fast and your wife hasn't come back to her senses .Pls continue to fast till 30 days. And be happy you are walking closer to God. Forget about her... EVEN break your fast by cooking yourself or buying from food from canteen.

After a while she will be the one to come and tempt you with seduction away from your fasting, if u follow the fast strictly. U must not fall to her temptation. That will make you a joke of a weak man.

Note you must love God and spiritual things before you can do this....... otherwise the fast go dey vex you
It works... No wonder Paul even told us, it's better we are not married cos of all This marriage wahala and sexual temptation.
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So once sex denial come....change it to fasting and get closer to God just as Paul us want to be all the time.
You will be blessed trust me. It will also help u from extramarital affairs .. Aside this method ..u and Ur marriage are in soup

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ did not teach you to fast since God already explained the kind of fasting which He wants from you in Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. Rather, what Jesus Christ did was tell you when to fast, and that you must obey God's commandments. God never commanded any man to go on starvation diets in His name. So when you engage in these practices which have their roots traced back to occultic and pagan practices, using the name of God, you sin against God.

Lol which kine arguments be this haaa
These are what u said o
1. U said....GOD ALREADY EXPLAINED THE FASTING WHICH HE WANTS in Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7

2.: You also said::::Rather, WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID WAS TELL YOU WHEN TO FAST, and that you must obey God's commandments

3.::::: U also said God never commanded any man to go on starvation diets in His name


4. Then also actually implied that Fasting came from the occult...

Please check the four statements do they make sense to you? Are u blind to see the contradiction in those four statements that you made at same time?

Jesus told his disciples they will fast when he's gone.... have you read that part before?
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Arguing with u is a waste of time. I'm done
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CuriousMind2022:


Pocohantas, you're a very popular moniker here, so I know you very well. And I will take my time to respond to you. This is also my alternate moniker, which I created last year while my marriage was on the verge of collapsing.

You read my thread and I don't blame you for making the assumptions that you made.

March 22, 2022, is a day I will never forget in my life. On that fateful day, my wife and I had a fight and she pulled five kitchen knives on me, that she will kill me, kill herself and then call our parents to come take our baby. Unknowingly, to me, my wife whom I married had become filled with so much resentment for me. She literarily saw me as a filthy person, because of my bad habits then. I was consumed in lust and masturbation, I wake up in the mornings then and the first thing I do is to start surfing Instagram admiring all manner of women with big butts. Slowly, I became obsessed with soft porn (At the time I told myself I wasn't doing pornography because I don't watch pornstars have sex).
Thankfully, after I shared my ordeal here last year, I got to know that I was actually doing soft porn.

After the fight last year, I left my house to go live with my elder brother. I actually stayed there for about 3 weeks, before the issue was resolved and I returned back home. It took interventions from 2 of our pastors and my elder brother and his wife to resolve the issue. My wife is a sensitive person, and I didn't know she had hacked my phone and was seeing everything I was doing on the internet. She literarily knew the names of the handles, I loved visiting. This caused her to hate me so much! She didn't see the other good things I was doing. Well, I didn't really blame her for that.

After that terrible incident, I blamed myself for everything that happened. I still remember, how I wept in my elder brother's...I kept on calling my name and telling myself that see how I had allowed lust and pervasion to ruin my home. I was broken, and I cried to God to help me overcome those bad habits and restore my home. Thankfully, God help me. The first thing I had to do was to come out clean! I confessed to my pastors and my elder brother the real problem in my home.

As a Christian, I have come to know that the only way to be free from such secret and destructive sin as pornography and masturbation is by coming out publicly.

Aside from coming out publicly, I took some drastic steps. I deleted all my social media accounts (Instagram, Facebook, and even WhatsApp). I also did away with using and having a smartphone, I used torchlight for a very long time just to avoid stumbling on my triggers on the internet. Just to add, that it was also quite easy for me to overcome those bad habits of mine because I was not really an addict as my wife thought. I started masturbating when I was already a full-grown man, I loved looking at beautiful women and that was actually the part that I struggled with. But thankfully, God helped me and even now I can boldly share my story anywhere I was once trapped in the web of soft pornography, but God helped me to overcome it.

I really didn't owe you this explanation, but I saw the need to clear you on this that what you read in my thread last year, is an old me.

As I stated in my original post in this thread, I still believe my wife's background is what is chiefly affecting her. And she is not the type that listens to advice, if not she probably would have improved. I still remember the battles we had to fight both physically and spiritually before we could get married. Her family practically did not want her to get married.

I really love your honesty, no matter how much they want to make u feel bad...
You wife is a very insensitive person...she's probably still judging u by Ur past even after taken care of that past....
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Guy.... I think u should follow the advice of people telling to give her back to back
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For a month don't ask for sex
Don't ask for food
Don't talk unnecessarily
Just give her the minimum enough for her upkeep.
When she calls, say okay, okay, alright...not jokes..
Don't sleep in same room
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In fact start fasting and praying and improve your spiritual life for one month and ignore her nasty habit...
U will feel better .. and she will come back to her senses...and if doesn't ...tell her to start preparing for divorce

Kobojunkie:
1. The confusion isn't Paul but you in assuming those weapons are yours to wield, when in fact the one who wields the weapon is instead Jesus Christ. You actually fancied yourself a redeemer even in your unrighteousness.

2. Well, you will have to examine individually every teaching to know whether there are contradictions in Isaiah or in Paul's epistles, right?

3. There is no record that Jesus Christ fasted and prayed because of the devil. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ made clear that He rules over Satan in the Kingdom of God clearly means Satan was never a threat to the person of Jesus Christ from the beginning.

4. Again, your confusions are rather born of the conflict between the lies you have fed on and the Truth as stated in Scripture.

Why did Jesus teach us how to fast?
Why?

Kobojunkie:
In John 16 vs 33, Jesus Christ told you this.
https://www.nairaland.com/7698143/how-one-fight-spiritual-warfare#123340511

2. First of all, Jesus Christ was a Righteous man of God. So, again, you fail the moment you believe you, in your unrighteousness, should compare directly to Him. Second, Jesus Christ never used the Psalms, nor prayer and fasting as a weapon. As a matter of fact, there is no evidence of what you claim found in scripture except in the many doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches).

Also, fasting which Jesus Christ submitted to is the doing of good works as commanded by God in Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7; it is nothing like your starvation-diets which hold no meaning to the Almighty.

3. Nowhere in scripture is it written that Jesus Christ fasted for 40 days for the reason that you claim. Rather we are told that like Moses, and Even Elijah before Him, Jesus Christ was led into the wilderness to be with God and He ended up fasting as a result.

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Jesus was righteous, agreed...but he still had to fast, pray, and even retreat to mountains for quiet time...
Why did he now fast when he was led to wilderness if it is of no use .?
Why did Elijah, Moses, Daniel, before him fasted, and early Christian, if not to aid in Spiritual power and warfare?

.You are very funny....fasting can quicken the spirit...food is for flesh.....Fasting is for edifying the spirit....Fasting can make us more reading to do God's will ......it's like denying your flesh....which the Bible and God wants us to do
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Even Jesus told his disciples when the bridegroom is taken away, "they will have to fast" which they did........Paul did too
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So u should remember that,....Jesus prayed at some point close to his crucifixion that the Bible said his sweats turn to blood.......why was he praying that much ..even accused Peter for being too weak for payers.....
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Jesus quoted Psalms to attack Devil...and u are telling us we don't have to quote Psalms even when Paul told us to speak in Hymns and speak in Psalms?

Bros abeg...I don tire for Ur half knowledge and intentionally running in circles
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Kobojunkie:
According to Ephesians, you say. Can you please read and answer the question at the end of the entry below?

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What is the armor of God and who in fact wears it?

In Ephesians 6, Paul supposedly instructs his audience to put on, what he refers to as the "full armor of God" without necessarily indicating the how of this feat. This has led many in the religion of Christianity to assume that it is indeed possible for them to clad themselves in this very armor, even without directly paying attention to the teachings of Jesus Christ, the one who is the Gospel and Law in the Kingdom of God — the Redeemer who comes to save.

In his letter, Paul mentions the full armor as being necessary but only goes on to mention only about six aspects of the armor. Let's in fact explore what God said through His prophets regarding the armor of God and also the one who wears it.

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■ Starting in Isaiah 59, the prophet Isaiah informed us that the one who is in fact adorned with the full of armor of God is the Lord, the Redeemer, Himself.
The Lord, our Redeemer, is the one who wears the
○ Helmet of salvation
○ The breastplate of righteousness
○ The Sword of Spirit
○ The Uniform of Punishment
○ The Coat of Strong Love
■ In Isaiah 52, Isaiah further informed us that the Redeemer wears
○ the shoes of Peace.

■ In Isaiah 11, the prophet also informed us that the Lord, the King, is the one who is clad with the
○ Belt of Truth

■ And in Psalm 91, we are instructed by David to make the Lord our refuge and our fortress for it is in fact His faithfulness — not ours — that is our shield and buckler
○ Shield of Faith
The one who in fact does the fighting against the enemy on our behalf and wins all the time, meaning we have no battles to fight so long as we are under the Lord's refuge and fortress.

What all this means is that one cannot literally put on the armor of God as people like most in the religion of Christianity like to pretend a possibility. So, how does one then go about getting the armor to be on his side of things? Well, Jesus Christ, the Redeemer Himself, said in John 15 that He will abide in those who abide in Him.
To put on the armor of God means to get on the good side of the one who is in fact clad in the full armor of God, Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ said t do that is to love Him


So, I guess the question to those who believe that meant for them to literally put on the armor of God would be how do you adorn yourself with an armor that is meant to be worn only by the Lord, our Redeemer?

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So how has Paul contradicted?
Isnt it same thing.

Faith...Faith in God and Christ aren't they same?
Word....of Spirit, which is word of God
Salvation...........by Christ
Righteousness .....in God
..So where's the confusion.....
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Isaiah saw vision of Jesus ..and described his essence....
Does Paul preach anything outside Christ?
How did Christ Himself defeat devil...isn't it through fast, prayer, word of God, even Psalms?..etc
Baba enough of Ur needless confusion and platitudes

Kobojunkie:
Be clear, state the contradiction.

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You need humility first
Start reading your Bible from Genesis to revelation....
Seems u only read Matt, Mark, Luke, and John..lol..
Even Christ studied the law and book of Prophets even though he was the Messiah.
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So who are you to condemn certain book of the Bible as not qualified enough...Ogbeni rest

Kobojunkie:
So what you are saying is that Jesus Christ who said we have no battles or warfare to rage lied?

2. And you think the Psalms are some sort of Talisman or incantations you can use against your imaginary wars?
https://www.nairaland.com/7698143/how-one-fight-spiritual-warfare#123340511

Psalms is word the of God, and as such according to Ephesians qualifies as the sword of the spirit of applied with Faith......

Who told you Jesus told us we have no battle to wage...like how? Where in your scripture did u get that? ......Let's start from there...
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Even Jesus tussled with devil using Psalms, prayer and fasting....
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Did u think Jesus defeated Devil without 40 days fasting and psalms?...
Like guy....Which Bible do you read?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, what Jesus Christ taught is stated in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28. All other doctrines are lies.
2. Isaiah was a prophet chosen by God. God does not choose the unholy nor the unrighteous as His prophets. You misconstrue Isaiah's lamentations as what that is. You do not choose yourself to be Righteous, rather it is God who approves those who He deems fit to be righteous, after they have attained Holiness by His Law and standard.

As for Peter, even David, the righteous man of God, sinned against God. So, clearly, a Righteous man can sin and God forgives them of their sins. But not an unrighteous man does not experience the same courtesy from God.

3. Again, Jesus Christ said the one in charge of prophecies in the Kingdom of God is the Spirit of Truth and that He will only give revelations that concern the Kingdom of God to those who are righteous — those who are in the world are unrighteous - John 14 vs 15 - 26 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. All prophecies that contravene the boundary set by Jesus Christ are not of Him or the Kingdom of God.

Your prophecies which you claim to "edify" your churches have nothing to do with Jesus Christ or the Kingdom of God since Jesus Christ made clear the boundary as far as Revelations that are sourced through His very own Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit.

By the way, what do you mean by "edify"?

4. Cornelius was introduced to you as a righteous man, was he not? Certainly, he was considered just by the standard that is not Jesus Christ but rather God's Old Law and as such was not bounded by the Law that governed revelations in the Kingdom of God as a result. There is a difference between visions given according to the Old Law and visions given according to the New Law.

5. It does not matter. What matters is God never said visions are restricted to only those who belong to Him. Rather, God's Law stipulates which visions are to be attributed to God according to His Law and which are not. Balaams were not of God according to His Law.

6. Yes you can. Again, Jesus Christ said only those who are not of the world can receive His Holy Spirit meaning an unrighteous man cannot have the Holy Spirit. What that then means is that in the Kingdom of God, only the righteous are able to have prophecies revealed to them that are from Jesus Christ.

7. I don't have a standard of righteousness as God is the only one who can approve a man as Righteous. I can only speak of what God has said of those who are righteous.

8. Hosea was a Righteous man of God. Marriage to a prostitute has nothing to do with God's righteousness.

Lol....
U just contradicted all Ur argument.
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U need to start reading your Bible deeply and paying more attention than cherrypicking and forming deputy Jesus...
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Even Jesus grew with old testament and dint condemn it, only came to build on it.....to bring people to his kingdom...u are even borderline condemning old testament...
Isaiah said he's a man of unclean mouth...u are here saying something else..
Hosea married a prostitute as commmaded by God...u probably said it's not a prophecy from God..
Guy...u are very narrow...and myopic Spiritually...
(You are not the one to determine the yardstick of righteousness for God.)
Study the scriptures as a whole, and u will know Paul, Peter and Christ are saying same thing....even John
All of them were called into righteousness by grace of Christ...Paul was one of the worse humans alive but still was the greatest Apostle...
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Your judgemental attitude won't take u anywhere..Face your salvation and grow.
Not cherrypicking and standing as a judge of righteousness.