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Those are relationships. In marriage, it can be very different. To be sure, constant retaliations like that is a leading cause of marriage breakdowns... OP get her(&u) counselling fast!!!

U no get O.T at all...I sorry for u
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Counselling kor..
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What will they tell the guy to do? To treat her right more than he's doing ?
Open Ur head...even a woman is giving u the best advice u are there forming wise....I sorry for u...
What do you know about marriage...how long have u been married?
Someone wore pant a whole day to tease his husband and punish him out of selfishness and wickedness...yet refuse to care about his safety u are here capping rubbish about counsellig...like, don't let me tell u u are very daft abeg. Do you think the lady don't know what she's doing?
Men should wake up and being soft like bread....
No woman can manipulate me...no woman.
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I swear in one month or even more, I won't ask for sex, I won't ask for food or anything...
And if I will give her money for food, I will divide it by 3 since I won't eat or ask for food..
I won't even sleep in same room as she....
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Let's play the game and see if she's won't come back to her senses.

Klass99:


Aww......you genuinely sound like a good man. It's sad you are not getting the love and attention you want or deserve.

Actions speak louder than words! Perhaps you need to change the narrative for her to get better results in your marriage.

Notice I didn't say talk to her or verbally communicate your concerns. Show her what you can do by your actions, show her that two can play this game she's playing. Don't buy into the narrative that two wrongs don't make a right.

From personal experience two wrongs do make a right - it is called giving people a dose of their own medicine, which usually pains them and they know not to mess with you again or they adjust their conduct. But it's your call.

So woman wey geh sense like this still dey Nairaland ? Wow...God abeg gimme woman wey geh sense o...u just gave a redpill advice if u don't know

Who cares once you are loved by God

Ephesians 6 already taught us what we need to fight Spiritual warfare.
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood...
Ephesians 6 says

1. Stand firm in truth and righteousness: You must examine your life and be upright with the word of God

2 Strong faith in the gospel and in God...to extinguish arrow of the devil

3 Hold on to helmet of Salvation, sword of the spirit which is the word of God ....So ensure you are very sound in the scriptures....Even Christ had to win Spiritual warfare against devil's temptation with Word of God...
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4 Finally...Praying all the time!

Remember Jesus told his disciples they could not cast out a demon or defeat a demon from a child because...it requires fasting and Prayer to defeat such demonic spirit.
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Shalom
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You can also use Psalms to aid you in your prayers....Psalms if filled with words of God that can be used as prayers

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, your gospel of sexual purity has nothing to do with that which Jesus Christ in fact commands. It is that simple!

2. It is too late to back out now when you have, from the beginning, been promoting churchianism, a major doctrine of the religion of Christianity.

3. Again, Prophecy as given by Jesus Christ is limited to the boundary stated by Jesus Christ. Anything outside of that boundary is not of Jesus Christ.

4. I don't know what you mean by Daniel, given that Daniel was a prophet of God and hence a righteous man of God. He was introduced as such in Scripture, was he not? Righteousness is not according to man but by God's approval. If you mean to say that many outside of God can and do in fact see visions, then you are correct, but what I made clear and what Jesus Christ said is that it is only those prophecies that fit squarely within the boundaries which He set down that are in fact of Him. All other prophecies can't and should not be attributed to Him and HIs Kingdom.

Balaam's prophecies, God used, to destroy him, did He not? The witch of Endor also had power but that power she could not attribute to God since it was against God's stipulation, was it not?

5. Cornelious was a very different story entirely. Not only was he an Israelite — but not of Jewish decent— his deeds had been recognized as just — righteous — by God's Old Law. He didn't see a vision regarding the kingdom of God but of an Israelite man named Peter.

6. The righteous err from time to time but God readily forgives them their sins unlike the righteous whose prayers — even their pleas for forgiveness — are not regarded by God at all.

Look, God's Truth is absolute and as such you need to treat it so in order to get on God's good side. Looking around for excuses as to why you should tarry a bit longer in your unrighteousness is the same as shooting your own self in the foot and expecting it all to be alright with God. He does not regard the unrighteous or anything he/she brings forward. What God demands is absolute obedience and He will accept nothing less than that from any and everyone.

1. You don't even know the doctrine of sexual purity I believe in. Yet u are dismissing a belief in that of Christ and Paul which I believe in....So is it only your own belief of sexual purity that aligns with that of Christ? Lol...it's obvious u are deputy Jesus. Paul doesn't even come close to you

2. About Daniel, I meant Isaiah...it was Isaiah I was trying to reference: after seeing vision, he disqualified himself for being unholy
Isaiah 6 v 1-6
vs 5. "Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts". The point is some people are chosen as prophet even before they become completely righteous....and some err too even after...while still seeing vision...and only have to beg for forgiveness...there are examples in scripture. So u are not the one to judge....
If Peter can err during Christ, and still err when Paul scolded him....Pls keep your judgement...

3. As a prophet. It doesn't mean u only see the vision of the kingdom. That's not what Christ or the Bible says. Even Jesus gave the Women by the well-side prophecy about her marital life, which later made her amaze and believe Christ is the Messiah.
The point here is that prophecy can be given to edify the church or bring sinner to repentance, or even for deliverance, or to reveal secret.
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4 What do you mean Cornelius is different....the question is did he see vision or not?
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5 Remember that Balaam told the right prophecy from the vision He saw, like 3X he refused to curse Israel, until he became greedy cos he wanted to get money from Balak, so he made Isreal turn to prostitution and idolatry. The point is, did he see vision or not even though he was not a Isreal prophet, but went wrong cos of his greed.
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So you can't judge who exactly God chooses to see his vision. Prophecy is gift sometimes given as grace ..while many can become prophet through impartation, while people can also become prophet by earnestly praying,fasting, and seeking for it as the Bible commmands, while living life of purity.
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Your standard of righteousness is not same as God.
What do you say of Prophet Hosea that God told to marry a prostitute just to pass a message to the Israelites...If it was today's pastor that married a Prostitute shebi u will say it can never come from God...
Guy rest ..don't be too judgemental

Kobojunkie:
1. I am still very much unrighteous, and working my way through Jesus Christs command which is that I seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness), and God's righteousness, in order that all these things — the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God — can then be added on to me. Like, I said before, I am not the source of your confusion. Rather, it stems from the fact that you cannot seem to resolve the Truth of Jesus Christ with all of the lies you have gorged on from the lies of your many pastors and mogs to date.

2. So, Jesus Christ lied when He urged that you become Holy just as the Father in Heaven is Holy? And He equally lied when He urged you to seek God's righteousness encouraging that all who seek will find. Notice how you use grace(eternal life) as an excuse not to do as God commands? Does that make sense of any kind?

3. I am not saying that there are none who are not of God in the world. What I clearly said is that there is NO ONE who bows to lies yet is of God. Lies are antiChrist who is instead God's Truth, and as Jesus Christ made clear in HIs Teachings, it is only those who submit to and obey the Truth of God that are then set free from slavery to sin — become Holy — by the Truth of God. That basically tells you that you cannot follow the doctrines and traditions of men — lies as Jesus Christ called them — and still end up Holy and approved Righteous by God. What you describe is utterly impossible to do or achieve.

4. I believe prophecy is of Truth, however, I do not believe the many lies born of the doctrines and traditions of men that claim to represent prophecy. Here's a good reason why. Jesus Christ said the one in charge of prophecies in the Kingdom of God is the Spirit of Truth and that He will only give revelations that concern the Kingdom of God to those who are righteous — those who are in the world are unrighteous - John 14 vs 15 - 26 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. So, when an obviously unrighteous being claims to see prophecy for one of your many churches, individuals, peoples, politicians, states, or even nations, clearly such violate the rules set down by Jesus Christ and clearly are not of Him.

I am not opposed to the strict gospel of sexual purity or holiness of Paul and Christ. I believe it's the truth no matter how hard.
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And somehow, you find a way of equating me with the mainstream churches..lol...as if I look like one of the Pastors of the churches u condemn....can we talk without u making feel I represent the church u condemn? U don't even know me...
I am me, working and longing to earn God's trust. So I don't represent any church and I don't think it's in my or your power to keep attacking and judging the churches when u are also seriously lacking, if I'm not mistaken.
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Your point about prophecy is apt....but the scriptures also say the gift of prophecy is without repentance....
There's no where in the Bible where it is stated you have to be 100% righteous before u can receive prophecy from God.......
Even Daniel at some point condemned and disqualified himself as someone who possess and stay with people of unrighteous lips...
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Balak was not even an Israelites, nor a Levi priest, yet he saw vision of God where God told him not to curse the Israelites.
Remember his donkey saw vision too
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Cornelius who was still striving to understand Christ was given vision to go meet Peter
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Etc like that
You don't have to be overly judgemental. You are not God....
Men of God err, even prophets err.....E.g Joel and David...
Be less judgemental....it's too much...it's Better you face your salvation than condemning.

Kobojunkie:
1. I never said Psalms doesn't make sense to me since I made clear that the man David was introduced by God as a righteous man and so his songs and praises were not an abomination to God. Secon, when you carefully consider God's own Law as well as the contents of David's songs, you will find that David did not challenge nor contradict any of that decreed by God Himself in His Psalms.

In much the same way, you are meant to scrutinize all writings to be certain that they in no way invalidate or challenge God's Law.

2. What grace does what you claim? Grace refers to the Eternal Life that Jesus Christ gives to all sinners who heed His call to enter into the Kingdom of God. The status of a sinner does not change upon entering through any one of the two gates of the Kingdom of God and it is for that reason that Jesus Christ then urged that they each seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) and then God's righteousness....", so where do you get this idea that grace does you righteousness or something like that?

3. By condemning even the Pharisees, Jesus Christ condemned all those who would go against His teachings to teach lies instead. Stop pretending now that the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ only apply to the Pharisees who were after all some of the same sinners whom Jesus Christ made clear that He had come to call to God.

4. The same Gospel — teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ — apply as far as every person in the Kingdom. It is the Constitutional Law in the Kingdom of God — God's special nation of priests which He makes of Isreal - Exodus 19 vs 6 — and no man, not even your Paul, is above the Law.

You are really skilled at confusionism ...you mix a lot of truth with half truth... Honestly and it distorts everything u say and makes it wanting.
Guy I'm tired. Not that I don't have what to say......but your self righteousness and cynicism is just out of the roof.
C'mon

It's only by grace we receive forgiveness
It's only by grace we have chance to the kingdom
Even our best attempt at holiness, honesty and strict compliance to law can only be counted as righteousness only through GRACE...so why are u misinterpreting me.....
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No matter how u see it
There are people and gathering where Heaven still accept their service and bear witness to their righteousness even in the midst of deception going on in the world.....
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If I may even ask.... someone like u will find it hard to believe in prophecy......I just have that feelings..lol..if u can think no one is qualified to render songs to God. Definitely no one can qualify to receive prophecy, not even Paul, or John that was shown revelation...
Guy rest...I don tire for u

Kobojunkie:
1. If you want to read it as bias against Paul, go for it!

2. Paul's teaching is hard? You lot quickly replace everything paul says with your many special interpretations that you barely understand any of what Paul says to begin with.
ROFLMAO!


3. Jesus Christ never preached your sexual purity doctrines. So how can that which He never taught not be different from that which He in fact taught?

See, let me tell you....I understand your bias against Paul. I will reiterate it.

That was why I said, don't get me wrong, what I meant was that, the sexual purity of Paul is the same as the sexual purity Jesus preached.
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But many Christian today struggle to obey sexual purity of Paul.
I struggled with sexual purity as preached by Paul and Peter until my eyes was opened. And it's actually same thing Jesus Preached. It's just that Jesus din't emphasiz some issues with examples as much as he does when expounding on the KINGDOM OF GOD. But his parables can still give us alot of insights.
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SO, Paul takes his time to break it down for us as inspired by the holyghost which Christ promised will teach them all things when he's gone.
Christ promised to send them the holyghost that will teach them further things.....I believe it's these teachings u have doubt about and feel it can't be entirely sanctioned by Christ.

Kobojunkie:
1. You folks have to be under some serious delusions to keep comparing yourselves with David. David was chosen by God as King in place of Saul because he, David, was first righteous. God informed you of this when He proclaimed that David was a man after His own heart — righteous. So, why do you think it is your place to sing because David sang makes no sense to me. Stop comparing yourselves in your Unrighteousness with the Righteous for Pete's sake!.

2. Jesus Christ said, "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteously — according to His teachings and commandments" meaning that we are to validate everything against His Word, and Truth, the Law in the Kingdom of God. If you think doing as Jesus Christ commands, is prejudice, then you obviously think little of Jesus Christ.

3. Again, Jesus Christ warned His followers not to imbibe the doctrines and traditions of men which He pointed out were lies that deceive and delude many away from the Truth of God nullifying the very Power of God and rendering the worship of those who live under such doctrines meaningless/ vain to God. You may make all the excuses you want for your churches but the fact is from their very foundations they have been removed and remain removed from God.

4. God never asked you for your Christian songs nor did God say that your songs bring Him glory or any of the other tales you lot tell ourselves about your many Christian songs. You sing those songs for your own glory and they exist only for that. God on the other hand has nothing to do with them.

At this point I give up.
Cos where are we going to start from if the whole of the book of Psalms and Ephesians 5 vs 19 doesn't make sense to you.
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You are even deriding the possibility of righteousness as if grace does not exist to put us in righteousness....
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Jesus condemned the Pharisees as following the doctrines of men.....Now you even condemning the early Church of the Acts of Apostles as following the doctrines of men?
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People who are witness to Christ in spirit, body and in resurrection? That's bold of you!

Does Jesus' condemnation of Pharisee affects the teaching of Paul and the acts of the Apostles or the book of Psalms? Even Christ read from the Books of Psalms and never condemned it or even abolish the law...bro calm down
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Calm down in your cynicism cos it will only lead u to unbelief. Trust me...

Kobojunkie:
1. How can I believe in a man when I am called to believe ONLY in Jesus Christ?

2. Paul himself warned people like you from believing in his so-called gospel when he declared, "Let God be True, and all men(including Paul) liars." I guess his warning got rejected by you there.

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Well, you've shown enough basis for your argument...so it's your bias against Paul which I think is understandable. With more and deep encounters you will see why Paul is one of the greatest witness of Christ.
I understand. Paul teaching is hard, but with God's encounter you will know it's the Gospel of Christ that was revealed to him
If God doesn't open your mind, most Christian will reject sexual purity as preached by Christ...but the truth is it's not different from what Christ preached

Kobojunkie:
1. Deceptive because it does not gel with the doctrines and traditions of men( and their churches) which you have gorged on to date or deceptive because they do not align with the very teachings of Jesus Christ Himself? Which is it?

2. I am afraid your confusion is from the fact that you confuse the many doctrines and traditions of your pastors and mogs(lies which Jesus Christ warned you against imbibing) with the Truth of God.

3. Scripture clearly tells of how the offerings, praises, prayers, "good works", etc., of the unrighteous, are tainted with their sins and are hence an unacceptable(unholy) abomination to God. So it is erroneous to think that by doing that which God has not in fact commanded, you do Him or His glory good. By the way, Jesus Christ said He does not desire the praises of humans - John 5 vs 41 - and He made it clear that He gets HIs glory from His Father alone and that is when His own do that which He in fact commands.

3. See # 2 above!

4. Songs cannot promote the worship of God. That you lot assume songs have that sort of power over your person speaks volumes of how removed from God and His Word you are. The kind of worship God, in fact, calls for is continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments. So, when you lot sing your songs and engage in your worship, you do so in vain since God never commanded any of that from you. He told you this.

Lol
Again you are mixing truth with half-truths
In short you just cancelled everyone singing to God
How do you describe David then since we don't have to sing to God or Christ?...Nawao
..the book of Psalms and hymns must be nothing to you since no one singing song of praise is singing from Righteousness
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I think ur spirit of judging judging and judging beclouds Ur reasoning a lot of time and makes it easy to confuse issues ..because of Ur prejudice.
Truth is Most churches of today err in many ways, agreed, but does that mean every church or every Christian are wrong. That generalisation can never hold
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We still have Christians, songs, and church inspiredd by God.... regardless of your prejudice or unbelief

Kobojunkie:
1. Here's the first thing you should learn if you are truly a disciple of Jesus Christ, and it is that your one and only mandate is to accept and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. Jesus Christ did not even ask His followers to follow His example, rather His mandate to them is that they do as He commands. Simple, right? So, when you go around collecting examples from here and there that have nothing to do with that which Jesus Christ in fact commanded, and then you ask me to analyze them, how do you think I should feel?

2. Sort of since none of them is a direct command from Jesus Christ.

Oh perhaps I now understand you
You seem not to believe 100% in the gospel of Paul, Peter and the early Christian. Because you've found a way to divide the gospel of the church from the gospel of Christ.

Kobojunkie:
You actually have it backward. Your so-called godly songs were not commanded or authorized by God — He never said anyone could use His name in singing of songs — and hence God has nothing to do with your many Christian songs many of which promote lies that contradict the Truth of God.

It is better to sing a meaningless worldly song than to sing lies using the name of God or pretending God is somehow "glorified" by your singing of such songs.

Your deceptive teaching of the devil is getting obvious
What do you stand to gain with your doctrine of confusion where u constantly mislead.?
If I give you Bible passage that says we should sing to the name, glory and word of God, u will tell me something else
What do you stand to gain in intentionally confusing simple truth?
How can u even say singing and registering songs that promote Mammons and sin are better than songs that promote God's worship? How.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ is the one who said your churches are not of Him given they are founded on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies which Jesus Christ Himself said were not of Him. So how can that which has a foundation that is not of Jesus Christ be said to be of Jesus Christ?

2. The letters written by John to the churches in the Book of Revelations were messages to believers living in particular/specific cities of the time. Those cities no longer exist meaning those for whom those messages are no longer current. For you to assume that your church in Ebute is the same church referenced in the book of Revelations speaks of your dishonesty.

3. Look, your churches are nothing but social business enterprises that thrive by trading lies wrapped up in the many mentions of the name of God. Jesus Christ warned of this and this is where we are today — the time of the antichrist thriving and deceiving the majority. As for your calling to fellowship, that is not of Jesus Christ but of the interpretations of your pastors and mogs, you realize that, right? What Jesus Christ however commanded is nothing like what you lot do today.

4. Do you even understand what Paul in fact meant by exhortation and edification in his letters? If you did, you would not mention it anywhere near this conversation.

I will appreciate you if you can analyse each of the biblical passages I presented that speaks of fellowship and church of Christ, if u can interpret each to mean something else, may be I will see from your view.
Did u intentionally disregard the passages...I will like explanation of each verse as not relating to churches.

crows2ravens:


@kobojunkie is a one-man army who believes he is the only true Christian in this world!
Remember the man Jesus healed and at first said he "saw men as though they were trees"? Before Jesus now perfected his healing. Such is this guy you're taking on.
I had about a week's debate with this guy on this forum, he doesn't want to hear. Just keep praying for him.

Oh. Perhaps I'm just noticing cos I'm new
Meanwhile it's easy to see his truth mixed with half-truths. Such teaching is only a mixture of human philosophy mixed with God's word.... recipe for deception and confusion which devil is promoting in churches

There's a way Christians find means or allowance to relate deeply with worldly affairs as though they belong to the world. But what this says is that we are still in Darkness, cos those songs only promote selfishness, sexual sins, money, idolatry, empty chatters and greed.....They are deceptive devices by Satan the Master of deception to draw us closer to him and fall into sin.

As a Christian, we should yearn to listen to Godly songs than worldly songs like Ephesians 5 v 19 says: "And do not get drunk with wine, which is debauchery, but be filled by the Spirit, speaking to one another in PSALMS, HYMNS, AND SPIRITUAL SONGS, SINGING AND MAKING MUSIC IN YOUR HEARTS TO THE LORD.

Sometimes I wonder how a so called Christian wakes up early in the morning with the musical sound of Davido, Burna or even Portable. Our spiritual antennae must be low connecting to worldly signal

Modifire:



"Prophet (peace be upon him) became so sad as we have heard(come to know) that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and [color=#990000]every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down..."[/b]
-Sahih Bukhari 9:87:111
This clown is damn too ignorant, you just go online and download baseless rubbish to confuse yourself, well that's surely the way of the damned already just know this: A day of reckoning is near and Allah shall deal with those people who mocks themselves thinking they are mocking their creator, the day when you shall surely testify to my warnings.

Hey, come back and explain that verse better, since you said he got it wrong.
But I know u can never explain that verse . We know. U accuse people of wrong interpretation but u guys can't give True interpretation....that's cos u guys have no better interpretation.
I will go with the interpretation of the OP until u bring a superior interpretation

Kobojunkie:
You are kidding, right? Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him have no battles to fight as He has already overcome it all for their sake. So what battles are you still fighting? Or better year, are you sure you are at least born again — born of water and born of the spirit? If yes, what proof did you receive of this?

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There are levels of spiritual strength and faith.
So a day old born again don't have to fight spiritually?

PoliteActivist:


Lord Jesus is a living Spirit working in people's lives, not words in a book. The words are important but we also have to remember how they came about. Words that have been translated, tampered with, edited, manipulated by powers that be, with various versions around; words that are according to people's recollections decades after they were said. Just try to remember verbatim a conversation you had last week, talkless of 30 years ago!

So if you don't believe in any of the words accorded to Christ, if your unbelief says those words can't be true, how does his spirit work in people's life? which words are then true to you? The one accorded to philosophers? Or the human philosophy translated to languages of the world for us to study?
Bro listen, if you don't believe in the words of Christ According to the holy book, then you don't have Christ. You don't, because Christ emphasized so much on on his WORDS
How does Lord Jesus spirit even work in the life of the people who don't believe in his word... How...how do you get something from nothing?
Without strong belief and faith in the word of Christ, u can't know him, you can't accept him or his life style...u will only be deceiving yourself

Kobojunkie:
That the word Church, a term use to reference a collection of people who share a common interest--- in this case, Jesus Christ--- was used a lot in the epistles does not then mean it paves way for your churches oftoday.

It is not your duty to judge every church as not meeting the standard expected of churches of God.
Revelation already gave it's warning to Churches that dint meet requirements, and it never advocated for closing down or abolition of churches, but it encouraged truth and fellowship as one body, being the body of Christ.
So I will enjoin you, that even in the midst of your skeptism of the purpose of most Churches, it's a calling for us to fellowship as a body of Christ cos no part of the body can exist in isolation.
So I enjoin you to find one church to attach yourself to. Individualism in Christ is a recipe for getting lost in temptation and works of the devil. How do you get exhortation and edification being alone?
The place of church is established in Christ. Find one and attach yourself to it, you will be more fruitful

PoliteActivist:


But they do have their own set of beliefs. What makes your set of beliefs more valid than theirs?

To start with. I don't like vain argument of empty words and human philosophy, because Paul warn us against it, so let me ask you, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF CHRIST?
your answer to this question will determine if I will engage you or not

Hin head go don correct by now
What a prodigal-son-welcome given by his family

PoliteActivist:
How about Moslens?

Muslims are anti-christ. It's a basic knowledge for every Christian to know.
So I can not talk about Anti-Christ who deny the son of God, and does not believe in his Kingdom nor his gospel

I think it's an erroneous take to say God does not care about churches. God does, and place alot of emphasis on it. Many today don't want to go to church for one excuse or the other.
As a Christian it's extremely important to attach ourselves to a church to build ourselves and equip the saints for the work of ministry, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God. (Ephesian 4 v 11 - 13)
Hebrew 10 v 25 also enjoins us not to forsake the assembly or fellowship of people AS MANY LOVE TO DO.
And revelation even told us that churches have representative angels in heaven watching over them
There's place for churches heavily referenced and sanctioned in the scriptures. Individualism is never encouraged...cos devil uses that to lauch its attack at Christians and get them to easily backslide.
Here are exhaustive Bible references to this subject that I got through study. And I will like you to go through it all of them and give your opinion... either contrary or complementary opinion. They are all Bible passages.

A). Ephesians 4 vs 7, 8, 11
" But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8 Therefore it says, “When he ascended on high he captured captives; he gave gifts to men.”
"11 It was he who gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 TO EQUIP THE SAINTS FOR THE WORK OF MINISTRY, that is, to build up the body of Christ"

B)Acts 2:42
"They were devoting themselves to the APOSTLES’ TEACHING AND TO FELLOWSHIP, to the breaking of bread and to prayer."

C) Matthew 16 v 8
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and ON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

D) Ephesians 1 vs 22-23
"And God put all things under Christ's feet, AND HE GAVE HIM TO THE CHURCH AS HEAD over all things. NOW THE CHURCH IS HIS BODY, the fullness of him who fills all in all."

E) 1 Cor. 12:13
"For in one Spirit WE WERE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free, we were all made to drink of the one Spirit. "

F) Ephesians 5 vs 22 - 32
This whole section compares relationship between Husband and wife as the same with Christ and Church, so it says wife must submit to husband just as Church must submit to Christ....and husband must love the wife just as Christ loves the church..It's a very striking analogy.. u can read it..

But the concluding part is even more apt which says: Eph 5 vs 32 "THIS MYSTERY IS GREAT – BUT I AM ACTUALLY SPEAKING WITH REFERENCE TO CHRIST AND THE CHURCH"

G) 1 Tim. 3:15
" In case I am delayed to let you know how people ought to conduct themselves in the HOUSEHOLD OF GOD, because it is THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, the support and bulwark of the truth"

H) 1 Pet. 5:2
"Give a shepherd’s care TO GOD’S FLOCK AMONG YOU, exercising OVERSIGHT not merely as a duty but willingly under God’s direction, not for shameful profit but eagerly"

I) Acts 20:28
" Watch out for yourselves AND FOR ALL THE FLOCK OF WHICH THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS MADE YOU OVERSEERS, TO SHEPHERD THE CHURCH OF GOD that he obtained with the blood of his own Son"

1 Cor. 3 vs 4 & 5
'For whenever someone says, “I am with Paul,” or “I am with Apollos,” are you not merely human?
What is Apollos, really? Or what is Paul? Servants through whom you came to believe, and each of us in the ministry the Lord gave us'

You can also read the Revelation Of John To The 7 Churches in Asia as that then.


Church in Ephesus (Rev. 2 v 2-3)
Church in Smyrna ( Rev. 2 v 8-9
Church in Pergamos( Rev 2 v 12-17
Church in Thyatira (Rev 2 v 19 -23)
Church in Sardis. (Rev. 3 v 1-5)
Church in Philadelphia ( Rev. 3v 7-13)
Church in Laodicea (Rev. 3 v 15-16)

Finally
Read---->>>>1 Cor. 1 v 1 - 13
Finally: when people start saying I belong to Paul, Apollo, or Cephas, Paul enjoins the whole body of churches to not operate in division cos God is coming to judge every works and church....that we should unite and treat each other with love. That is what is missing

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Kobojunkie:
1. The religion of Christianity and its church businesses have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ of the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ never gave any man permission to congregate churches using His name in the manner of your churches, nor did He give any man permission to sit as teachers/shepherds/authority/leader/head/master, etc. over his sheep. In addition, Jesus Christ made clear that the doctrines and traditions of men upon which your churches are founded are lies that drive men away from the Truth of God, nullifying the power of God while rendering the worship of God in vain.

2. The kingdom of God which Jesus Christ spoke of is not found in your churches. Rather He also described it as being inside of, and all around those who are born-again — those who have gained citizenship in it. And as Jesus Christ explained by way of the parable, while his invitation is to all sinners to enter into the Kingdom of God, not all those sinners who become born-again will turn out wheat(sheep), some of them are tares(goats) who will do the will of the enemy while using the name of God to do it. This is the only Church that matters as far as Jesus Christ. All other definitions or ideas of churches have nothing to do with God nor mean anything as far as God.

3. Churches are rather filled to the brim with tares, in this case, I am afraid. No one who loves Jesus Christ — submits and obeys His teachings and commandments alone — would at the same time submit to or obey the leading of any man. Jesus Christ was clear that He alone takes full charge of those who belong to Him.

4. Salvation is, I am afraid, up to the individual and not up to the will or opinion of a "we". Individuals need to decide for themselves whether their desire is for God or rather a group to belong to.

5. Yet again, an antichrist resolution.

I think this is erroneous take mixed with truths and half-truths
There's place for churches heavily referenced and sanctioned in the scriptures. Individualism is never encouraged...cos devil uses that to laugh its attack
Here are exhaustive Bible reference to the issue of church that I got through study.
And I will like u to go through all of them each and give your opinion. Thank you.

A). Ephesians 4 vs 7, 8, 11
" But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8 Therefore it says, “When he ascended on high he captured captives; he gave gifts to men.”
" It was he who gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, that is, to build up the body of Christ"

B)Acts 2:42
"They were devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer."

C) Matthew 16 v 8
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

D) Ephesians 1 vs 22-23
"And God put all things under Christ's feet, and he gave him to the church as head over all things. 23 Now the church is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all."
E) 1 Cor. 12:13
"For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free, we were all made to drink of the one Spirit. "

F) Ephesians 5 vs 22 - 32
This whole section compares relationship between Husband and wife as the same with Christ and Church, so it says wife must submit to husband just as Church must submit to Christ....and husband must love the wife just as Christ loves the church..It's a very striking analogy.. u can read it..
But the concluding part is even more apt which says: vs 32 "This mystery is great – but I am actually speaking with reference to Christ and the church"
G) 1 Tim. 3:15
" In case I am delayed to let you know how people ought to conduct themselves in the household of God, because it is the church of the living God, the support and bulwark of the truth"

H) 1 Pet. 5:2
"Give a shepherd’s care to God’s flock among you, exercising oversight not merely as a duty but willingly under God’s direction, not for shameful profit but eagerly"

I) Acts 20:28
" Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son"

1 Cor. 3 vs 4 & 5
'For whenever someone says, “I am with Paul,” or “I am with Apollos,” are you not merely human?
What is Apollos, really? Or what is Paul? Servants through whom you came to believe, and each of us in the ministry the Lord gave us'

You can also read the revelation of John to the 7 churches in Asia as that then.


Church in Ephesus (Rev. 2 v 2-3)
Church in Smyrna ( Rev. 2 v 8-9
Church in Pergamos( Rev 2 v 12-17
Church in Thyatira (Rev 2 v 19 -23)
Church in Sardis. (Rev. 3 v 1-5)
Church in Philadelphia ( Rev. 3v 7-13)
Church in Laodicea (Rev. 3 v 15-16)

Finally
Read---->>>>1 Cor. 1 v 1 - 13
Finally: when people start saying I belong to Paul, Apollo, or Cephas, Paul enjoins the whole body of churches to not operate in division cos God is coming to judge every works and church....that we should unite and treat each other with love. That is what is missing

God can use anyone for his purpose
But Tinubu is not useful for anything. He's allegiance is to the devil, unless God just want to use him to show forth his glory, for if he refuses to repent God will make him a scape GOAT and anyone who sees it will Marvel that God is truly a God of justice and righteousness

Recently, I've been longing to reorder my life and do things differently from how I have been living until now.
I basically want to get closer to God and have some fellowship. The Bible says taste and see the Lord is good. I wish to have practical experience of this word, other than the theory.
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So I started some prayers and fasting. Something actually plodded me in my spirit. Some burden, despair, helplessness and fear.
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But Surprisingly on the third day or so of my fasting, I received a word in my dream, more like someone unseen spoke the word to me..and I saw saw the letters of the word
Immediately I woke up, I wrote it down.
And it happened to be the first scriptural word I ever received from dream.
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The word says : "If any one heareth my words and doeth them.... "

Now it happened even while I was hearing the word in dream state, I realised it was from the scriptures, but when I woke up, I realised i could not recall all the phrase more than the part I wrote above. And I also didn't know the verse.
So I typed it in Google and it brought it out for me as Mathew 7 v 24-27 which says:::
"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock"

I was amazed, and it has helped me so far to continue in obedience and belief.

This primed me to ask if anyone can also share their testimony to receiving words from dream and what verse of the Bible it was.

I believe it can edify and encourage someone. Thanks.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ hung out with sinners and even prostitutes so I am certain He would have no issue with such tools. The problem you are having there does not relate to Jesus Christ or His Gospel as it has more to do with personal discipline and self-control. To be a disciple of Jesus Christ means you need to develop serious self-discipline and self-control, that is the only way you can accept and obey His every teaching and commandments. So, if you are serious about Jesus Christ, then begin ridding yourself of the weaknesses that keep you from choosing disobedience(sin) over obedience.

Nice

Those people full Nairaland.

I hope people who identify with one or two of those conditions will be sincere enough to introduce themselves to us on this thread by typing the no. That applies to them

Sunshine34:
Honestly, i feel like fucking anytime am alone. The urge is very high. It pushes me to the street to find (any) woman.

You feel like, that means u are not promiscuous yet

Worry more about whatever infection she has