Kobojunkie:
Read the book for yourself and stop depending on the potential vomit from the mouth of others.

"So Philip ran up to it and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. He asked him, “Do you understand what you're reading?” The man replied, “How in the world can I, unless someone guides me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him."
Acts 8:30-31.
So what's in wrong in someone seeking answers?

Kobojunkie:
Before I dive into this with you, here's one simple question and I need you to think it through carefully before you answer because a lot of you don't reason your answers at all. Does any of what is relayed in the Book of Acts change that which Jesus Christ taught to His followers about the operation of His very own Spirits — Both the Spirit of Life and the Spirit of Truth?

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Does what Paul teach should be refuted? And on what basis should we discard Paul's teaching?
The Bible affirms several times that Paul's teaching and commission is a product of special revelation of mystery from Christ. But anything revelation is belittled by You and scoffed by you to the extent of your rejection of what Paul teaches ...That's cherry picking....You people could as well blot our everything Paul said in the scripture

@ Janosky
You made the following statement that I have a no slightest idea how it relates to my case of Prophecy exist....this is what u said

Janoksy:

"Ephesians 4:11, did every believer have the gift of prophecy?

Oga, 1 Corinthians 14:29-30 is the real deal.
JWs have the gift to evangelize the fulfillment of Bible prophecies about Jesus Christ & God's incoming kingdom.

We no see anything about prophecying in Matthew 24:14 or Mark 13:10"

You also said 1 Cor 14: 29- 30 is the real deal...
But I'm not sure you read what 1 Cor 14 says ..cos it doesn't not relate AT ALL to saying Prophecy has ended.
Infact it confirms without equivocation that Christian can Prophecy, and bring words of revelation which you all condemn and scoff....INFACT ITS ONE OF THE MOST CLEAREST CHAPTER OF NEW TESTAMENT THAT CONFIRMS PROPHECY IN CHURCHES!

Maybe you SHOULD read the whole 1 Cor 14 Abi your Bible is different ni?

Let me give u few verses from 1 cor 14

V 29-30 that you misquoted says:

"TWO OR THREE PROPHETS SHOULD SPEAK and the others should evaluate what is said. And if someone sitting down receives a revelation, the person who is speaking should conclude"
1 Corinthians 14:29-30

Verse 31 even says something clearer
1 Corinthians 14:31
"For you can all prophesy one after another, so all can learn and be encouraged".


So where is the unbelief in Prophecy coming from? Where is the confusion?

These versees from same chapter say:
1 Corinthians 14:37, 39
"If anyone considers himself a PROPHET or spiritual person, he should acknowledge that what I write to you is the Lord's command. SO THEN, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BE EAGER TO PROPHESY, and do not forbid anyone from speaking in tongues"

This is what the first verse even says:
1 Corinthians 14:1
"Pursue love AND BE EAGER FOR THE SPIRITUAL GIFTS, ESPECIALLY THAT YOU MAY PROPHESY.

vs 3-5 Further explain
1 Corinthians 14:3-5
"But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouragement, and consolation. The one who speaks in a tongue builds himself up, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. I wish you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets so that the church may be strengthened".

So where in all these verses is there hint that Prophecy has ended? When it's emphasized and encouraged for use to pursue prophecy and prophecy in congregation........

Janosky:
You made the following statement that I have a no slightest idea how it relates to my case of Prophecy....this is what u said

"Ephesians 4:11, did every believer have the gift of prophecy?

No.
Oga, 1 Corinthians 14:29-30 is the real deal.
JWs have the gift to evangelize the fulfillment of Bible prophecies about Jesus Christ & God's incoming kingdom.

We no see anything about prophecying in Matthew 24:14 or Mark 13:10"

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@ the bolded, Where in my write up did I say or infer that everyone has the spirit of Prophecy? How did this statement filter into the argument? I'm lost.
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This is what Ephe 4: 11-12 says

"It was he who gave some as apostles, SOME AS PROPHETS, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, that is, to build up the body of Christ,
Ephesians 4:11-12

So how does he gave Some has prophet translate to you people not believing in Prophecy/prophet at all, that he gave o?

Trust hungry APC dogs to come defend it by saying...it's only flying for weekly maintenance service

I have noticed JW breed many self-righteous Christians, though they have some good doctrines, and outwardly decent way of life, their good doctrine is however also mixed with a lot of half-truths. I will touch on their total rejection of anything present day Prophecy.
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My exposure to the doctrines of JW when I was 14 till my University days was the beginning of my gradual slip into atheism and agnosticism. I'm not surprised that DAVID HUNDEYIN is an atheist who was JW. Only God's love and grace delivered me after I almost lost it all, including my life at some point. That's how dangerous their doctrine can be, it opens your portals to many strange doctrines.

JW is a group of Christians that lack power, barely Holy Spirit and No revelation at all. Everything is based on intellectual and manual analysis of the Bible. And they scoff the Spirit of present day Prophecy which is really unfortunate for a Christian to do.
The Bible is VERY clear about prophecy, the testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy, that's what Revelation says, a message from an angel to John (Rev 19 v 10)
The Bible also says...He ascended on high took them captives and gave gifts to men such as prophecy for the equipping of the saints before we all reach the fullness of Christ. They deny this same gift that Paul reported, same gift that Paul used extensively.
Paul also said we, i.e the gospel,are built on the foundation of the Apostles, PROPHETS and CHRIST [/b]who fits everything together. Ephesians 2 v 19-20
[b]19"Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;"

Hebrew 2 vs 3 &4 teaches that the Salvation of Christ is testified by signs, wonders, miracles and by THE GIFT THE HOLYSPIRIT DISTRIBURED TO US ACCORDING TO HIS WILL......
What are those gift? Ephesian 4 v 8-13 said when he ascended on high he gave men gifts, prophecy inclusive! And a lot of early Christian were commissioned as prophets!

But our JW will quote only Hebrew 1 vs 2..and say it nullifies all other scriptures and promise of prophecy. How? Hebrew 1 v 2 was just a crash course on Salvation(that God spoke to us through his Son) Paul was delivering this to Gentiles who had difficulty to understand the basics of how Salvation came about.
Paul also said we should seek Spiritual gift ESPECIALLY the gift of PROPHECY..if prophecy had ended and of no use, why would Paul emphasize us to seek it ESPECIALLY? (1Cor 14 v 1)
JW needs a lot of explanation as regard those scriptures.
Another text they sometimes use to deny prophecy is 1 Cor 13 vs 8..HERE PAUL SAYS:

" Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.”
The question is: Has prophecy passed away cos Paul said "....... WILL pass away?"
If truly prophecy had passed away, then knowledge has also passed away...but JW believe in knowledge of Christ.

verse 9-10 already explained WHY and WHEN prophecy and knowledge will pass away....It's not now, as the gift is still at work for the equipping of saints before we reach the full knowledge of Christ.( Ephe 4 v 8-13)

v9 and 10 of 1 Cor 13; says : Those gift will only cease WHEN Christ the PERFECT comes, so we won't need Knowledge or prophecy cos we KNOW and PROPHECY in part at the moment. So they will cease when the perfect comes.
The question is has the PERFECT come?

These are plain, but JW are wilfully blind to it because they don't have the gift or understand the working of the spirit of prophecy. Only a carnal intellectual Christian should deny that spirit of prophecy still exist.
Finally, On the day of Pentecost, disciples prophesied in Acts 2. And Paul explained extensively to the onlookers that they should not be surprised cos Prophet Joel had already prophesied that in the Last days, God will pour out spirit of Prophecy, which they were exhibiting at the time.
Paul also concluded in same chapter (Act 2 v 38-39) that such gift being exhibited on the Pentecost are available in Spirit for the crowd, Including their children, and for those who are far away that God will eventually call to himself.
Notice the audience of Paul here was gentiles of different Language like us
With all these mountain of evidence, why will any Christian say Prophecy doesn't apply to us. Has the last days Paul talked about ended? Or is there no need for equipping of saints anymore?

tbaba1234:
This is the Islamic position

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him): “The Pen has been lifted from three: from the sleeper until he awakens, from the child until he reaches puberty and from the insane person until he comes to his senses -- or until he comes round.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (4403)

So for the period of mental illness: No record is kept for such a person

Who is Abu Dawood that we should care about his narration... what's the source of the narration

For a while now, I've been itching to share same experience cos I've been having it, but I felt Nairaland is too full of trolls and many will dismiss it. An evidence is Kobojunkie, the spiritual police who mixes error with truth, and his ilk.
Infact I've tried to search for answers about that experience cos it was confusing, I havent gotten enough answers, but I've heard APOSTLE Osayi Arome made reference to it in one of his ministration cos I listen to him alot these days.
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Anyway, in reference to Kobojunkie, If the DISCIPLES who were present at the Pentecost relate their experience to Kobojunkie the Spiritual police, definitely he will say they were insane and raving mad......just as the unbeliever accused them in those days
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The Bible says: Act 1 ....
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them"

Now notice three physical manifestation that occurred on the Pentecost

1. Sound like blowing of wind.....(even the unbeliever heard the sound in vs 6).... Kobojunkie would have said it was audio hallucination and unscriptural.

2. Something that looks like tongues of fire resting [/b]or hovering on their head: that's a physical manifestation....: If you told Kobojunkie that someone saw flicker of fire on your head, he would tell u to go for medical check up.

3. [b]They spoke in tongue and prophesied:::: Kobojunkie would have told u u are raving mad ..just like the unbelievers in those days said they were DRUNK IN WINE

Kobojunkie should apologize and explain how he's different from those unbeliever that accused Peter and disciples of drunkenness.

My summary is that, physical manifestation can happen with the move of the spirit ...But Kobojunkie just denied exactly what is written in the Bible.
Now he may say the physical manifestation is not same as the one described..lol..
Well I will say, if they saw tongues of fire visually resting on their head, u can argue they will most probably have a sensational aspect on the head, which I feel u experience....And then we can be sure if someone who can see in the spirit were to view u, they may probably see the fire resting there. It's as simple.... cos the fire seen by the disciple were seen from spirit eyes.
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I've been in a church gathering where I will feel this same feeling u u describe (infact my experience is even regular, though it took time to accept it as normal), then the prophet ministering will say he can see fire like anointing on the head of different people......(I will just be wondering in my spirit)
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My last word is this: take your spiritual journey and worship more serious than ever, that's what I'm trying to do, and I'm also seeking for greater grace and understanding.
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You should fast regularly so u can be more spiritually attuned. During fast, this sensation can rest on my head for the whole period....and when I enter church or Spiritually charger placed...it comes instantly and stays there all through
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Occasionally it comes while on the road or while busy doing something unrelated.
These days, I feel the urge to fast, pray and read the scriptures than before.
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I pray we continue to obey and not grieve the spirit by our lifestyle. That's very important

Shalom
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Tinubu is a cancer every where he goes.
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God will disgrace him soon

I'm not sure you graduated or went to school. Cos this seems like jealousy or follow follow u see with village people

Dsalvo:


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It is why Lagos continue to attract by far the most FDI coming into Nigeria courtesy of it's image as a comparatively serious and well-organised State in a "jungle" Nation.

I agree with many things you say but, I'm sick and tired of the lies that Tinubu is the sole factor that help bring FDI to Lagos...Tinubu is not Lagos Governor since 2007, 2007 o...Yet u people keep talking thrash of Tinubu bringing FDI
Today more Companies have folded in Lagos than we had in the early 90s during military regime.
If we are to allude FDI to anything in Lagos it has to be
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1. Lagos has the only really functional port in Nigeria. And was never built by Tinubu....
200m people being serviced by only one port ..think about it, it only happens in Nigeria....where do u want foreign business to be? Away from port and resources in Kafanchan? It's common sense ..now haba!!!!

Build an efficient functional port in Ondo State, or Delta State with access road or even rail that connect Lagos to north...and all this FDI noise will disappear in a year.
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2. Population: Lagos has the highest population ready for market and taxation in Nigeria. Shay Na Tinubu increase the population when he came in 2007? Abi why are you people so illogical. Lagos has been the most populated trade centre even before Tinubu dreamnt of politics . U people should use brain and think for once.
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3. Lagos is the economic power of Nigeria even before independence with infrastructure and and investment already in place... Lagos was already headquarter to most businesses and govt agencies in Nigeria before Tinubu in 2007....
Why can't u people see this as the main factor that helped Lagos more prosperous instead of saying one drug Baron who hijacked the whole Lagos potential to furnish his drug business and shield him from opposition...
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Tinubu would have be special if
1. He connected Lagos with functional rail system unseen else elsewhere in Nigeria given the cash inflows, traffic and transportation problem in Lagos. ..,
2. Tinubu would have been special if he had been the one to lobby and build the port he's enjoying today....the one in Lekki took 23 yrs...do we have to wait for 23 yrs in Nigeria again? lol
3. He would have been special if he invested in housing schemes like Jakande to ease the terrible housing problem in Lagos
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4. He would have been special if he revolunised water transportation to ease traffic congestion ....
5 He would have been special if innovation in Health and education is visible in Lagos.
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6. He would have been special if he dealt with thuggery that are menace in Lagos today ..no city in the world have such social disturbance of local thugs empowered by the govt...

Tell me exactly why Tinubu is special given the potential of Lagos which he never created but exploited to enrich himself and cronies...

ba7man:
Tinubu that's supposed to set up a special unit to flog Nnamdi Kanu every monday.

Yoruba-BATIST-APC are just so wicked...Haaa God!
U don't want igbos to rule, u still don't want them to go..what kind of a slavery is this

Absuchat:

I bet you can't afford polygamy... But u wish

What's my business with polygamy?
Shay Na sex Abi woman I come this life come serve?

Blunttruth:

Women sexually depraved! You really don't know much about them.

So they are sexually pure than men? Is that what u mean?...
They are sexually pure but majority of them easily fall into prostitution? and date uncountable men for money and pleasure?
..teach me now

Psalmistproject:
Leaving a whole police extortion work to go dey wash plate abroad.

One day you go still come back and nemesis will smile back at you. That police you failed to do your part in changing when you're in their system will show you how well they have advanced in their torture, extortion and intimidation skills.

Suffer no dey tire u?
Abi won shepe fun e ni?

Cutehector:
i swear, the op is a simp..

Lol
I'm just being practical
Cos if u fight Ur woman for sex...she will probably not give u
If u ignore her, she might come to her senses later . But then u will be burning in passion...so why not convert that passion into fasting and reap Spiritual benefit instead of of fighting or chasing extramarital affairs?
This is straight forward

Absuchat:

I think you need that last statement more than I do especially in this context.

It's polygamist like u that should be careful

You are just talking rubbish
Which side of the bed did u wake up from?
Character just full this Nairaland.
U people just wake up think rubbish, put it up and start looking for baseless argument
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Better start reading your scripture and renew Ur mind from the rubbish devil is filling Ur heart with...it won't take u no where Sir. It can only end in confusion and more confusion.
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God said something, u people will wake up and say another thing from a a very limited and impaired standpoint because one confused philosopher said so....

diogo23:

Oh she have right to starve me of sex? I see

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Can a woman be in mood for sex all the time?
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It will surely happen that she will deny u...so start learning to deal with Ur who Oga.
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The Bible does not permit spouse to deny each other...but do people obey Bible?
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Denying people food cos of sex is really low, and wicked...una no dey reason?..
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diogo23:

And the man will be dying silently in his own house, This your mentality is the reason men die first in the family

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It's that reason we are to open our eyes and beg God to show us our realm woman in God.
People make mistakes and marry harlots and Jezebel and expected to be treated like Sarah treated Abraham?
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Once u marry a bad woman...just carry your cross or use God to cope...
If u try and be wiser by doing things Ur wayz be rest assured u just open an hornet nest, the next wahala u meet, u should embrace it and not complain...

diogo23:

Did you know that some women deny their husband sex just to get what they want so a man should do whatever it take to get what he want

Removing food from the mouth of a person and removing sex from a man is not the same thing.
It's wickedness to withdraw food from anyone.
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Lack of sex won't kill you
You can say that for lack of food.
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Are u even supposed to starve your enemy, let alone your wife? I don't subscribe to that...but u may limit the extra cash u give her just to display Ur anger

I'm really sad for this guy
How can u allow devil to use u
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U came in less than 9months with grace ..instead of being humble....u are yarning dust

Dedicate yourself to God for one month if she's so adamant
Forget about sex
Fast and pray for that month and see if your life and spirit won't attract changes that is more than sex....it might even inspire your wife

Nawttiboi007:
Live n let others live... love's the most paramount, peace, give alms to the needy genuinely no one has to know and dont expect anything in return, God's blessing is divine. And especially have conscience. I believe in christ, and I believe in God almighty. But I've also seen many Christians who converted to Muslim.

At the end of it all only God knows who truly worships him and knows after death no living souls does

That's not what the Bible says....Oga
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The Bible says those who truly worship God will worship him in truth and in SPIRIT. so if u are not worshipping him in spirit, u are just deceiving urself...or worshipping devil, the spirit of the rulers of this world, that is resident in children of disobedience.
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The Bible also says The SPIRIT will bear witness to us that we are the sons of God if we are truly of God..... even while alive.
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The reason we serve God as Christian is not because of God's blessings, but because we love God and believe in the kingdom of God that he promise to ursher in through belief in CHRIST. That's more important than blessing of money, car or house..lol
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ANYthing aside CHRIST is just a cosmetic way of living...infact u are outside God. That's what the scriptures says. AND that u make it in life through Ur hardwork or otherwise doesn't change the fact...cos u are not on the right foundation.
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And worshipping in truth means u have the seal of the holy Ghost for believing in Christ and you also follow the truth himslef which is CHRIST ....(everything I say is from the scriptures)
JESUS said I am the the way, the truth and the life...NO ONE COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!...u can not know God outside CHRIST.
I enjoin you to read the scriptures and believe in the word of truth.

iSense247:
Others preached religion but Jesus preached love, grace and salvation with no emphasis on religion. If religion can save, he wouldn't have come to this sinful world to save us. Because there were thousands of religions before Jesus coming and they all claim to be right. Jesus does not bring religion but salvation of your soul. Where do you want to spend your eternity? Choose for yourself today.

Jesus emphasized on his kingdom that will be urshered in through the church...
And Paul explained in depth the relationship of Christ and the church.
Though we may say it's not a religion perse, but theres a very pivotal place of church and ministry in Christ and in the coming of his Kingdom

Absuchat:

Most married men today aren't enjoying their marriages... Quote me.
So it's safe to say they're regretting... If I will end up regretting after marrying one, then It's better to regret marrying a dozen of them.

I hope you have the money
I hope u have the cash to train about 20 children assuming each gave u one or two children
I hope u are ready for the family quarells, bitterness and hatred....
Abi u think marrying 12 wives is just about sex and peace....
I pray some won't even poison U or plan Ur untimely death so they can take over Ur property especially if they are angry at you...
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Better be careful
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UjuJoan2:


Keep dreaming!

Oh, I pray you won't be wife...
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I will teach you lesson if u think sex can be used to control a man like me