Sports › Re: Ronaldo: 'the Difference With Messi...' by Peterrio: 6:52am On Jan 13, 2021 |
halalMACburger: Go and sit down
Where is your champions league trophy with Juventus?
Make Barcelona jam Juventus for champions league, you go know say GOAT (Messi) get horn. They met not too long ago It doesn't settle the matter on ground Let's patiently wait till both their careers end Then look back and all they achieved |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bad Deal Exposes Nigeria’s Fake Miracle Syndicate by Peterrio: 12:03pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
vooks: Am a servant of Lord Jesus Christ and I strongly urge my brethren to read Faith Healers by James Randi before they attend miracle services and crusades I read the old version online, please do you have the PDF copy? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 12:38am On Sep 24, 2020 |
DeusXmachina: Well more isolated phenomenon like weather with data constantly being collected by satellites and ground instruments. The predictably of that has gone remarkably up in the past few years with an 80% accuracy for a 7 day forecast and 90% on 5 day forecasts.
But it comes down to some limitations, for example if the data on the position and speed of subatomic particles were attainable. Physicists would hold certain knowledge of the future, but as it turns out the physics limits such a thing, were one can obtain the speed of a particular particle, but never it's position and vice versa, because the very act of observation affects the particle and causes change in it's position or speed.
And the human world is far too complex to obtain every single possible data on it. Fantastic, you get the point To an extent I feel that God has a lot of power, someone that knows the future or can say something about the future and it comes exactly that way I believe he will use the power to undo all the rubbish that has taken place for ages, and return humans to that beautiful Eden beginning And, very importantly remove all factors that might make us fall again |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 12:04am On Sep 24, 2020 |
DeusXmachina: Fair enough.
But it still implies a limited freewill, if one can only choose from a list of options. Yes, our freewill is limited Or so I think |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 12:01am On Sep 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Time from Man's point of view: Time is the measure of interval between two or more physical events. Time from God's point of view: Is Meaningless or Irrelevant 2Pt3:8 8 Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Time isn't meaningless or irrelevant, a comparison is made here, making time to remain meaningful
A day in the life of a HUMAN is like a thousand years in the life of a MAYFLY |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:56pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
DeusXmachina: "Within a margin of error" Never said it will always be accurate. The reason why data science and big data is tied to artificial intelligence is because there's need for a whole lot of data Peta and exabytes of data I seriously doubt that all of humanity combined knows 20% of our own human history We aren't sure of up to 20% of our own human history Its basically an impossibility to have any margin of error that is considered worthwhile |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:52pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
DeusXmachina: I
But on a serious note, if the Christian God is indeed all knowing of the future, this creates a lot problems. Such as freewill being a lie and the goodness and benevolence of this God coming into question. Freewill for example doesn't equate OMNIPOTENT we are only free to pick from a list of options God didn't know for sure that humans would pick evil over good But he definitely knew the probability was there that humans would pick evil over good |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:48pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
DeusXmachina: I for one do not know the future, but if I have sufficient data on the present and past, I can compute and make predictions of the future within a certain margin of error. That you know the present and the past doesn't mean you can accurately predict the future, life isn't a straight line graph or any simple curve |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:44pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: God knows the type of future he's planning [Jere 29:11] and he can fish out people who already have that type of thinking, but as for others he's working towards inviting them to reason along! Isai 1:18 Did you read the scriptures following my quoted statements? Whether evil pricks the hearts of some men isn't the issue, that he has specially picked some that no matter what, he has chosen them, and its final Remember that among the others that he hasn't actually CHOSEN and HANDPICKED there a lot of good hearted people that love to do his will, they will CHOOSE on their own and follow |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:40pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Don't you think this makes Him appear less, you know, Divine and Omni-everything?
Ps: Do take your time and go through the pages whenever you are chanced. If God is everywhere for example, I don't think he will need angels I think he moves from place to place Job 1:6-7 for example, God probably couldn't tell where Satan was coming from I can't say for sure tho He gave us freewill so we can make choices, choices which aren't completely foreknown |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:30pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Whether God directly or actively orchestrated after a declaration
Or he only knew ahead of time
I can't tell the difference
But clearly it's a show of some sort of power that he can say things, and make them come to pass
Or he actually does know those things in details long before they happen |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:26pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Big future events like the fall of Babylon, medes and Persia, etc
Select individuals like prophet Jeremiah (not fufeyin), Jesus birth and life, Etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:23pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Maybe because we are free willed, plus I feel a lot of happenings in the universe are automated, he can't actually tell ALL exact future events CORRECTLY |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:20pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Ohhh, do go through page 7-10.
Why? What's limiting Him?
Examples sir. Examples of; 1. The big future events and a few special individuals which God know of. 2. An Example of the above which is 100% independent of God's orchestration /declaration
With the use of the subjective word "IF" and a lot of "warnings, fatherly advises, Godly advises"that the Almighty himself used all over the old testament and Jesus still use till today, I believe you are not wrong.
Different folks will surely have minute differences in doctrination. So, I personally believe he doesn't know ALL things to come But I can't say what's actually limiting him |
Christianity Etc › Re: 16 Sexual Perversions God Detests. by Peterrio: 11:12pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Some medical professionals actually say number 13 is beneficial to both parties |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 11:00pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
1 Peter 1:1&2 Romans 8:29 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 10:57pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Awwwnnn, you missed the fireworks. What say ye, Does God really know the future? PS: The strength to drag the discussion on and on has finished, but I do hope I learn few or a lot of things from your view. Personally I feel that the idea of God has so many exaggerations to it I would say that he doesn't actually foreknow every single detail But he certainly knows some big future events and a few special individuals But beyond that, he doesn't know if you will finally stick with good or evil, you're free to choose any But there are guys, in my opinion, that are stuck with good, predestined that way |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 10:53pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Awwwnnn, you missed the fireworks. What say ye, Does God really know the future? PS: The strength to drag the discussion on and on has finished, but I do hope I learn few or a lot of things from your view. Please direct me to the fireworks, I just hope its not all sentimental argument, without logic I need to know the firework pages |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 10:51pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Does God know the future? Or Can God tell if one is going to be condemned or not?
So far I have seen four (4) different interesting viewpoints to the matter:
1. God knows everything, absolutely everything, including whether you will be condemned or not
2. God can choose not to foreknow certain information
3. God doesn't know everything, he only knows some big events and a few special individuals
4. God doesn't actually foreknow anything, whatever it seems that he foreknows actually is prophesied into being, or declared into being
Please add yours |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 10:42pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Peterrio: I read 1,2, 15 and 16 And by making this statement, 17 was created |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 10:41pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Yeah, if Nairaland has a voice note feature, this discussion might have ended at page 8. Peterrio, did you read the thread from 1 - 16? I read 1,2, 15 and 16 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Peterrio: 10:15pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
kkins25: Bladdermouth, thanks for the mention as this topic is one that really interest me. unfortunately i find this spambot issue that seun is either not aware of or is yet to fix- a real drag.. now that my ban has been lifted i hope to respond to muttleylaff soon too. i typed alot of stuff that got lost, not motivated to type again at all..... shadeyinka, please could you use the "quote" when referencing someone else's post. its difficult to discern which are yours from which are not. Although i see the effort to reference the persons name. I would seriously prefer we take this conversation to WhatsApp where we can use voice notes instead of losing valuable valid argument points� The topic is too interesting |
Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 12:05pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
dawno2008: It's 12 ooo  Yes, disciples They're 12, right! |
Christianity Etc › Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Peterrio: 11:48am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Man dies Hebrews 9:27 and after that comes judgment
But not "immediately" after |
Christianity Etc › Re: If We Ask For The Forgiveness Of God Before We Die, Will God Forgive us ? by Peterrio: 11:42am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Kay25: Yes God will forgive and has forgiven when you accept christ but how sure are you to know the day you will die?death can be sudden and accidental that's why it's better to accept jesus christ as Lord and personal saviour and have right and holy life in God through jesus should incase death comes suddenly you are saved and even if not you are still guaranteed of forgiveness and heaven Did you read the original post?? |
Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 11:38am On Sep 20, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 11:35am On Sep 20, 2020 |
fergie001: PDP has 12 LGs, They have fulfilled two-thirds. Na 11, not 12 Please crosscheck |
Politics › Re: Official Results Of Edo Governorship Election 2020 As Announced By INEC by Peterrio: 11:12am On Sep 20, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 8:34am On Sep 20, 2020 |
flowmama: Leaving already
.. Tension, he wants to weewee There's a "male" sign on that door |
Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 8:31am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Localemperor: Oga what are you saying? Obaseke contested in APC primary before jumping ship to PDP were he won his primary for this present election He didn't contest, he was disqualified He didn't contest and lose He was disqualified on the ground of incomplete educational records He was disqualified He didn't contest |
Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 8:25am On Sep 20, 2020 |
TroubleMaker47: Not exactly, LAGOS is a bit more complex than Edo, and remember they allowed him participate in the "free and fair primaries" Even his deputy jumped ship. Nevertheless i would hv still supported he jumped ship! That would hv increased his political value and relevance even though he would hv still lost but it's still 100x better than his current state! No one is allowed by law to contest in 2 primaries If he actually contested and lost He won't be allowed a second chance in another party |
Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by Peterrio: 7:58am On Sep 20, 2020 |
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