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halalMACburger:
Go and sit down

Where is your champions league trophy with Juventus?

Make Barcelona jam Juventus for champions league, you go know say GOAT (Messi) get horn.

vooks:
Am a servant of Lord Jesus Christ and I strongly urge my brethren to read Faith Healers by James Randi before they attend miracle services and crusades

DeusXmachina:
Well more isolated phenomenon like weather with data constantly being collected by satellites and ground instruments. The predictably of that has gone remarkably up in the past few years with an 80% accuracy for a 7 day forecast and 90% on 5 day forecasts.

But it comes down to some limitations, for example if the data on the position and speed of subatomic particles were attainable. Physicists would hold certain knowledge of the future, but as it turns out the physics limits such a thing, were one can obtain the speed of a particular particle, but never it's position and vice versa, because the very act of observation affects the particle and causes change in it's position or speed.

And the human world is far too complex to obtain every single possible data on it.

DeusXmachina:
Fair enough.

But it still implies a limited freewill, if one can only choose from a list of options.

shadeyinka:
Time from Man's point of view:
Time is the measure of interval between two or more physical events.
Time from God's point of view:
Is Meaningless or Irrelevant
2Pt3:8
8 Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

Time isn't meaningless or irrelevant, a comparison is made here, making time to remain meaningful

A day in the life of a HUMAN is like a thousand years in the life of a MAYFLY

DeusXmachina:
"Within a margin of error"
Never said it will always be accurate.

DeusXmachina:
I

But on a serious note, if the Christian God is indeed all knowing of the future, this creates a lot problems. Such as freewill being a lie and the goodness and benevolence of this God coming into question.

DeusXmachina:
I for one do not know the future, but if I have sufficient data on the present and past, I can compute and make predictions of the future within a certain margin of error.

AkinwaleJJ:
God knows the type of future he's planning [Jere 29:11] and he can fish out people who already have that type of thinking, but as for others he's working towards inviting them to reason along! Isai 1:18

Blabbermouth:
Don't you think this makes Him appear less, you know, Divine and Omni-everything?

Ps: Do take your time and go through the pages whenever you are chanced.

Blabbermouth:
Ohhh, do go through page 7-10.

Why? What's limiting Him?

Examples sir. Examples of;
1. The big future events and a few special individuals which God know of.
2. An Example of the above which is 100% independent of God's orchestration /declaration

With the use of the subjective word "IF" and a lot of "warnings, fatherly advises, Godly advises"that the Almighty himself used all over the old testament and Jesus still use till today, I believe you are not wrong.

Different folks will surely have minute differences in doctrination.

Blabbermouth:
Awwwnnn, you missed the fireworks.
What say ye, Does God really know the future?
PS: The strength to drag the discussion on and on has finished, but I do hope I learn few or a lot of things from your view.

Blabbermouth:
Awwwnnn, you missed the fireworks.
What say ye, Does God really know the future?
PS: The strength to drag the discussion on and on has finished, but I do hope I learn few or a lot of things from your view.

Peterrio:
I read 1,2, 15 and 16

Blabbermouth:
Yeah, if Nairaland has a voice note feature, this discussion might have ended at page 8.
Peterrio, did you read the thread from 1 - 16?

kkins25:
Bladdermouth, thanks for the mention as this topic is one that really interest me. unfortunately i find this spambot issue that seun is either not aware of or is yet to fix- a real drag.. now that my ban has been lifted i hope to respond to muttleylaff soon too. i typed alot of stuff that got lost, not motivated to type again at all.....
shadeyinka, please could you use the "quote" when referencing someone else's post. its difficult to discern which are yours from which are not. Although i see the effort to reference the persons name.

dawno2008:
It's 12 ooo

Kay25:
Yes God will forgive and has forgiven when you accept christ but how sure are you to know the day you will die?death can be sudden and accidental that's why it's better to accept jesus christ as Lord and personal saviour and have right and holy life in God through jesus should incase death comes suddenly you are saved and even if not you are still guaranteed of forgiveness and heaven

fergie001:
Ya, 11.

fergie001:
PDP has 12 LGs, They have fulfilled two-thirds.

Cyoung4real:
Adam, Adam, where are you? My lord, l am naked..
Godwin Obaseki has stripped me naked in Edo state

flowmama:
Leaving already

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Localemperor:
Oga what are you saying? Obaseke contested in APC primary before jumping ship to PDP were he won his primary for this present election

TroubleMaker47:
Not exactly, LAGOS is a bit more complex than Edo, and remember they allowed him participate in the "free and fair primaries"
Even his deputy jumped ship.
Nevertheless i would hv still supported he jumped ship!
That would hv increased his political value and relevance even though he would hv still lost but it's still 100x better than his current state!

Bimpe29:
Edo no be Lagos