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Sniper4real:
Anti-christ may also come from a virgin

Kobojunkie:
The Bible did not say it is a sin, Jesus Christ, God's Law and Word , did.

Kobojunkie:
Praying out loud is against God .i.e. a sin

doggedfighter:
I have no desire to watch the video.

Kobojunkie:
Why would all the long scriptures be about praying in secret and in hidden place who you are clearly told what each passage teaches in regards to prayer?

Kobojunkie:
That same Jesus Christ that prayed openly while teaching you told you that you should obey His His commandments proclaiming that is by doing that that you show you indeed love Him - John 14 vs 23- 26

These are taken directly from the teachings of Jesus Christ as written down in the Gospels. If you dont agree with them, then you should forward your complaints directly to Jesus Christ, the one whose Word it is.

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* Ask, Seek and Knock, in order to receive, find and have the door opened to you
Matthew 7 vs 7
* Pray continously. I.e. don't stop asking, seeking, knocking until you have recieved, found and had the door opened to you
Matthew 21 vs 22 & Luke 18 vs 1- 8
* Avoid vain repetitions in order that you not sin against God because God knows what you want even before you ask Him
Matthew 6 vs 7 - 8
* Always pray in secret and in hiding as not doing so is against God
Matthew 6 vs 6
* Pray the Lord's prayer-
Matthew 6 vs 9- 13
* Forgive everyone who has hurt or offended you before you pray so your father in Heaven will forgive you your sins-
Matthew 11 vs 25 & Matthew 6 vs 12
* Always approach God in Humility-
Luke 18 vs 9 - 4
* Believe that you have received what you ask for and it shall be done for you
Matthew 21 vs 22 & Mark 11 vs 24
* Ask the Father in the name of Jesus Christ
John 15 vs 16
* If you abide in Him and He, Jesus, abides in you, then He, Jesus Christ , will do whatever you ask in His name
John 14 vs 13-14 & john 15 vs 7
* Pray for your enemies -
Matthew 5 vs 44 & Luke 6 vs 27- 28
* Ask God for the Holy Spirit -
Luke 11 vs 13 & Matthew 7 vs 11

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Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ Himself told you that His friends are those do as He commands - John 15 vs 14

providence338:
My auntie took it. Nearly died from intestinal blood clots. Uncle did too. He couldn't celebrate Eid due to extreme fatigue/chills and was on medications for prolonged metallic taste in mouth that wouldn't go away

Kobojunkie:
Well, if you are decided to follow the examples of the disciples as written of in the book of acts, that is fine for you, but doesn't change the Truth of God which is that praying out loud and even praying where you are seen by others doing so...is a sin against God.

Kobojunkie:
It is indeed a sin against God to pray out loud and also to pray where you can be seen doing so.

Image123:
Stay one lane oga Jo, anything can yield to the Spirit, even rocks and a dumb donkey. Your point is that emotions give a sort of measure of one's openness to the Spirit or God. And that men are not open since they are not emotional. It's not usually so. Spiritual things are not measured that way and you need to stop teaching that.



i don't have to be in their heart, i have seen them many times. You should open your eyes and see too. Jesus said to WATCH.



i believe you saw the question mark, right? You certainly must have learnt about punctuation marks somewhere, they are not designs.



You seem to be reading to reply, not understand or take to correction. And you are so quick and filled with emotion that you cannot even care about spelling and correction. If you read properly, i put Finny, the Bible and Wesley in the same breath and sentence. How then am i criticizing anyone of them because of Pastor Chris?



"your pastor is likely". You should update yourself on the meaning of the word "likely" and the part it plays in a sentence. If it is not true you simply say so.



Jo, you said it yourself, remember. You said at times, he falls. At times means it is not often. He's not falling all over the place. Or is he not open to God in those times? Judge yourself, use yourself or your mentor as a yardstick. If falling is a measure of being open to God like you teach, then it means most of these our pastors and Bible characters are not open abi, because they no dey fall.



Oh, falling is now seldom. Good. But does that not mean that you are not open to God, or you are rigidly fighting God? Because this is what you said that i challenged.



Then you should stop teaching at all and let people do their personal walk na. See talk oh. Why is your pastor bringing it up in a teaching if not to teach? Was he saying it for jokes?

Lol upon lol Now you want to leave me and attack chuch lol, lola, lollipop i don't have a church bro, i am a member of the Church. i have many pastors, evangelists, apostles, teachers and prophets though. God dashed me, gloryyyyyyyyy.

Workch:
how you guys even come up with all these nonsense?

LordReed:
Good grief you are so gullible!

Image123:
Emotions has little to nothing to do with spiritual sensitivity. One can weep like a total wreck and not even repent. The other fellow that just simply closed the eye and raised the hand may have a most radical change of life.

Most of them have nothing tangible to show for it. Check properly,

at least they fall every week in your location, right?

There was no so called prior explanation or expectation in the Bible accounts or the examples of Wesley and Finney that you reminded us of.

Like i said, your pastor is likely the most spiritual person in your eyes.

He's not falling all over the place

So stop using falling as a sort of measure of openness to God or receipt from God MORE THAN others.

BTW, i heard your pastor say that God told him not to use chain or dark sunshades or something.i know you will follow hook, line and sinker BECAUSE na your pastor talk am.

That's one of my grouse with you, the cult-like man worship you guys give. Imagine if i came and taught same thing from the Bible without your pastor saying so, you will mock me and call me all sort of names. may God help us.

budaatum:
I took the jabs and my body did not conduct electricity and magnet, but I'm very certain you would rather believe those who have taken no jab.

budaatum:
Be there believing conspiracies.

Good thing is you are a minority, and unfortunately, or

MansoryMX:
Repeat what you just said!

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Image123:
Actually, you are the one reading wrong meaning here, and type correctly. What is wrong with your computer or phone? i did not say that christians are possessed but that from the scriptures and most experience, it is possessed people that fall and are prone to fall.

The OP asked "why is it women that fall mostly during deliverance?"
Your reply was "Men do.fall under the power . it depends on the case . The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God . Men can be rigid fighting God ."
But here you are saying that this is my idea? Take time ohh Jo, i forgive you again.

The majority fall due to expectation and pressure, and it is BY NO MEANS a measure or show of openness to God.

Like we both know, there is very rarely a tangible need for these falls as the people remain the same in most cases. They keep falling every other week with nothing to show for it. We that did not fall, we received so stop teaching that it has anything to do with openness to God.

Image123:
There you go ohh. i do not doubt that people fall

my grouse is with the point that you made that it is a show of openness to God.

No, it is not. And what is so common these days is a watered down unscriptural version with nothing to show for it. We saw possessed people fall in the Bible and get delivered, same also happens in deliverance of possessed people today.

That is not looking much like the scope of our discussion though. The one we are discussing is the "Take it" version and similar kundalini(occult) styled demonstrations prevalent today in churches and not found in the Bible but more in the occult. The main issue here is that this people do not get anything spiritually significant. They still remain liars, adulterers, thieves, angry, divorced, proud and unforgiving. In summary they still remain sinners. This is incomparable to the move of God in the life and ministry of people like Finney where people fell and quit sin, drunkenness, wickedness etc immediately. And it wasn't even something either they or the minister expected, it was the power of revival and prayers. It's not in the same line Jo.

PasD:
Pls what does this mark mean ooooooo! Some say it's witchcraft. She slept and work up with a strange mark on her body.

chatinent:
While you have decided to think this is a spiritual attack, I am only seeing an injury. Check this out: what if you mah come realize say she go sleep on top sth wey get this shape, then the thing come leave prints or scars after a cut?

Image123:
If you are teaching that falling down is a mark or measure of openness to God, there is no consistency with your pastor's experience or yours or mine. From facts and experience, it is the people "with problem", and possessed ones that consistently fall. The pastor in charge, his wife and family, his cameramen, his pickers do not fall. If they ever do, it is NOT the norm. Either you are saying that they are not open to God or not. You cannot come and claim diversity for consistency.
We both know that all human beings are different, unique and wonderfully made. This has nothing to do with your teaching that it is openness to God that makes people fall. Possessed people are the usual ones that fall, they are not more open to God. there are no records of any of the disciples of Jesus falling. Moses, Elijah, Samuel, Daniel, all these greatly anointed men were not falling, or they are not open enough? Don't cover up your goofs and traditions and wrong teachings. Grow and be renewed from the Word of God. All these private interpretation is not necessary.

Image123:
You said and i quote "The power of God manifest in women more because they are more open to God ." You said this in the context of falling down. It is not openness of spirit that cause people to fall, stop saying things that are unverifiable and unscriptural. Tons of people were open to God in the Bible without any fall. We mostly see the possessed people falling in the Bible. There are thousands of people falling in churches every week and going right into all kinds of sin the same week and even day.



They were very conscious and saw a visible cloud of glory. BTW, though i got your point and expected you to quote it, the priests were come out of the holy place. It's not that they fell, but more that they could not enter or stand or wait to minister.



Good, because you claimed that it has to do with openness to God. In order words, pastor Chris is not usually open to God as he does not fall often. Just like once a year or a decade, right? The ones that fall every service and roll all over are very open, in fact direct to God's throne.



Are you saying Saul was more open than all the prophets, because even the real prophets from Moses to Malachi didn't go through this process, or did they? Shows clearly as a misnomer, not a norm.



This is not "falling under the anointing", but a very conscious prayer posture that anyone can take. Study your Bible and not the koran pastor.

Image123:
None of the scriptures you quoted talks about falling under anointing to be open to God.

These are people who consciously went prostrate before God in worship and prayer,,

is pastor Chris open to God, have you seen him fall like a possessed person before?

Image123:
Jo, you have come ohh.Open to God indeed. What has falling down got to do with being open to God?How many times did Jesus Christ or any Bible character fall to be open to God? Is