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Christianity Etc › Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by petra1(m): 8:19pm On Jun 09, 2021
[quote author=OkCornel post=102554583]Did Abraham give any tithe beyond war spoils? yes . it was a faith culture

he returned 90% of the warspoils to the rightful owner. Is that the example believers should follow?
its was his choice . hes the rightful owner . he gave tithes and gave the rest out as a faith demonstration . so that yhe king woukd not boast on making abraham rich.

Give 10% of war booty
thats tithe

and return 90% to the rightful owners?
thats choice
Christianity Etc › Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by petra1(m): 6:32pm On Jun 09, 2021
SonofLothbrok:
16 times in the bible, the tithe was mandated by God to be only fruits, vegetables and clean animals; Never money, gold, silver, wages or anything else....Never.
tithe is given of all things . cash inclusuve. was Abraham tithe given with vegetables?
Christianity Etc › Re: Odumejeje Mimicks Chris Oyahkilome, Calls Him A Homosexual by petra1(m): 5:27pm On Jun 09, 2021
Coldshisha:
How low Oyakilome had dragged himself that this daboosky guy is insulting him indirectly
why not say "how low jesus draggrd himself that the pharisees insulted him
Christianity Etc › Re: CAN Mourns TB Joshua 72 Hours After Death by petra1(m): 5:22pm On Jun 09, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:
Christ. God go open una understanding
give me.a reason to belivee otherwise
Christianity Etc › Re: CAN Mourns TB Joshua 72 Hours After Death by petra1(m): 11:28am On Jun 09, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:
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Christianity Etc › Re: Deception Has Been Exposed . Watch Pastor Chris Live Now by petra1(op): 11:26am On Jun 09, 2021
jared007:
Wasn't able to watch it that day now youtube has removed many part from it. Was there any other spectacular thing pastor talked about?
let me check ..i wanted to comment as the programe progress but got carried away
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Nigerian Clerics Who Have Died Within 6 Months (Photos) by petra1(m): 11:24am On Jun 09, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Instead of quoting scriptures ignorantly, why not stay silent in humility before God to hear what He has to say?
kindly repent of your carnal mind and spirit of strife. God bless
Christianity Etc › Re: Deception Has Been Exposed . Watch Pastor Chris Live Now by petra1(op): 8:33pm On Jun 07, 2021
Presently he mentioned nano technology. The vaccine is a software
Christianity Etc › Re: Deception Has Been Exposed . Watch Pastor Chris Live Now by petra1(op): 8:25pm On Jun 07, 2021
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Watch the broadcast today for once
Christianity Etc › Deception Has Been Exposed . Watch Pastor Chris Live Now by petra1(op): 8:07pm On Jun 07, 2021

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Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Nigerian Clerics Who Have Died Within 6 Months (Photos) by petra1(m): 9:47am On Jun 07, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Off-point!

Didn't expect you to be able to comprehend the deep things of the Spirit anyways, being driven by the things of the flesh and this world.
Proverbs 3:30
30 Strive not with a man without cause,
if he have done thee no harm.

2 Timothy 2:24
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

Galatians 5:22
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by petra1(m): 9:36am On Jun 07, 2021
FalseProphet1:
Ok, I'm creating this topic because not too long ago daddy Adeboye lost his son, and we saw CAN, an array of top Pentecostal GO's PFN, and other top Christian bodies paying tribute to him.

TB Joshua died yesterday and up till now apart from the regular tribute on social media and prominent Nigerians, no Christian body has openly sent their condolence message to the family.

Wasn't TB Joshua accept into the Christian fold...I know that some people might have their differences with him, but not withstanding, he deserves that right from Christian bodies in Nigeria.

And for the records, I'm not a member of SCOAN.

Cc. Seun
Mynd44
mukina2
dominique
lalasticlala
Some have done so like prophet Iginla
Prophet Jeremiah etc. Bushiri, urbert angel
Christianity Etc › The Video That Led To Youtube Closing Tb Joshua Account. by petra1(op): 5:42am On Jun 07, 2021
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Nigerian Clerics Who Have Died Within 6 Months (Photos) by petra1(m): 8:20pm On Jun 06, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
"God has something to say
God has something to say
Listen, listen
Pay apt attention
For God has something to say"

All these deaths cannot be by accident.

I believe God's trying to say something to us.

God bless.
Isa 57:1 — Isa 57:2
​1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart:
and merciful men are taken away, none considering
that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
2 He shall enter into peace:
they shall rest in their beds,
each one walking in his uprightness.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Steve Akinola Passes On. by petra1(m): 8:16pm On Jun 06, 2021
AdeniyiA:
Hope no be say rapture don dey happen small small unnoticed shocked
Isa 57:1 — Isa 57:2
​1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart:
and merciful men are taken away, none considering
that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
2 He shall enter into peace:
they shall rest in their beds,
each one walking in his uprightness.
Christianity Etc › Why TB Joshua And Other Men Of God Died by petra1(op): 8:11pm On Jun 06, 2021
This is a terminal Generation . One of the signs of a terminal generation is that good men leaves the earth. Because evik is coming . Just like in the days of Noah . Adam , meduselah , enoch and all the righteous men libed to dee noah . But died in noahs time before the flood came . They were alll contemporaries .
Evil is on the horizon . We need to pray

Isa 57:1 — Isa 57:2
​1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart:
and merciful men are taken away, none considering
that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
2 He shall enter into peace:
they shall rest in their beds,
each one walking in his uprightness.


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Christianity Etc › Dr Faucci Coverup Exposed! He Knew About The Virus by petra1(op): 11:36am On Jun 05, 2021
Christianity Etc › Pastor Chris :is The Doctrine Of Soul Tie ,soul Mate Scriptural by petra1(op): 7:50am On Jun 04, 2021
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by petra1(m): 2:23pm On May 30, 2021
FarmTech:
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There are 2 types of works u need to understand:
1. The work people do to get salvation. This is wrong. Because we are saved by grace alone, thru faith in Christ so that no one will boast. This is what Paul is emphasizing, that u can't mix work and faith to gain salvation.
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2. The work we do after accepting Christ. This is a must for every child of God. This is what Peter/James were saying, that if u really have faith in Christ, u must show it by the way u live ur live. Even apostle Paul said it in ROM 3:31
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["Does it mean that by faith we do away with the Law? No, not at all, instead, we uphold the Law"]
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More verses that shows that Paul agree with Peter/James:
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Romans 6:12-23
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Slaves to Righteousness
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance.

You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
I am using an example from everyday life because of your human limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness.

What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Romans 6:1, KJV: "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"
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There are many more if you read Paul's epistles. Anyone who is telling u that u can remain in sin and still be a Christian by faith is a liar. Christians like that are the ones that call Christ Lord, but Christ will reject them and call them workers of iniquity. It is a pity that one homosexual supporter is still here arguing with us. That is one of the effect of false grace teachings.
Nice . Working out salvation is different from working for salvation
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by petra1(m): 6:12am On May 30, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
For those who believe that Christ teachings were under the law, they should kindly answer the following questions:
We didn't say so . The bible says so.

Galatians 4:4 (NLT)
4 But when the right time came, God sent his Son, born of a woman, subject to the law.


So you see. The

The Bible says so .
Jesus operated while


1. Why the Pharisees, teachers of the law of Moses were yet opposed to His teachings?
He was not fully compliant to the law because he brought a new way . But the new way can't be implemented until after his death. That is why he sent the Holy spirit to lead us into all Truth. If you want to know about the church. Study the epistles. Remember Jesus primary work in his earthly ministry was for the jews . The Gentiles were not part of his earthly ministry.

2. Why He then told His disciples after His resurrection to teach all men to observe His teachings? Matthew 28:19-20
He didn't say so . Why not quote what he said .
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by petra1(m): 4:31am On May 30, 2021
Myer:
Good question. Finally.
This is one of the major contradictions in the bible.

Jesus preached Works.
But Jesus also preached Grace.
In fact the issue the Pharisees often had with Jesus was that while they tried to correct him for violating the works of the law, he proved to them that Grace was more important.
When they tried to stone the adultress woman, he forgave her and prove to them that even they were equally guilty of sins which God forgave.
When they were defending the laws and challenged him for working (miracles) on sabbath, he defended himself that He was Lord over Sabath.

Also, Peter and the other apostles preached works over Grace (Faith). James 2:14-17
Paul preached Grace over works. Roman's 11:6

Which was why Peter/James and Paul disagreed over Works and Grace.
While Peter and James preached that Faith is justified by works. And without the works Faith is dead.
Paul preached that Faith is not justified by works.
In fact that mixing Faith and works means it is no longer Faith.

So if you were to conclude, what really is the bible's stand on Grace and Works?
There is no confusion . When you received grace and righteousness you show the fruits in works .
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace? by petra1(m): 4:27am On May 30, 2021
BassReeves:
The Pharisees, teachers of the law of Moses, believed they could attain perfect righteousness through their exclusive obedience to the law, hence one of the reasons why they were opposed to Jesus' teachings and any prompt of or from the Spirit of God

Jesus never preached to the Gentiles, as He was primarily assigned and sent to the lost sheep of Israel. It is a case of the Jews first, then the Gentiles, the world at large after, hence one of the reasons why He then told His disciples after His resurrection to teach all men to observe His teachings i.e. Matthew 28:19-20

Just as psucc remarked, you ought to be specific of what righteousness you are harping about
Is it imputed righteousness (i.e. Romans 3:22, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Philippians 3:9 and 2 Peter 1:1), imparted righteousness (i.e. 2 Peter 1:3-4), imbedded righteousness (i.e. 1 John 3:9) or for the fact that, being that there is no one righteous, not even one, even is it the Isaiah 64:6, bomboclaat or filthy rags type of righteousness?

Romans 5:17
'For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many.
But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness,
for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
'

Philippians 1:8-11
'8For God is my witness, how I long for all of you with the affection of Christ Jesus [whose great love fills me].
9And this I pray, that your love may abound more and more [displaying itself in greater depth] in real knowledge and in practical insight,
10so that you may learn to recognize and treasure what is excellent [identifying the best, and distinguishing moral differences],
and that you may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ [actually living lives that lead others away from sin];
11filled with the fruit of righteousness which comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God
[so that His glory may be both revealed and recognized].
'

We are not under law, but under grace. We are not under rigidity, but under fluidity and lucidity. The Law has become our schoolmaster, our tutor and our disciplinarian to guide us to Christ, so that we may be justified [that is, declared free of the guilt of sin and its penalty, and placed in right standing with God] by faith, but now that faith has come, we are no longer under [the control and authority of] a schoolmaster, a tutor and disciplinarian. For us [who are born-again have been reborn from above--spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified and] are all children of God [set apart for His purpose with full rights and privileges] through faith in Christ Jesus. Law tells us how crooked we am, grace comes and makes us straight. Hallelujah Praise the Lord.
Awesome teaching
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T B Joshua Heals Veteran Actor Olofa-ina of 2 Years Difficulty In Walking by petra1(m): 4:21am On May 30, 2021
zoeA:
So TB Joshua heals?
And not Christ? huh
Both is correct
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor T B Joshua Heals Veteran Actor Olofa-ina of 2 Years Difficulty In Walking by petra1(m): 4:20am On May 30, 2021
Karlovych:
grin grin grin Conveniently none of the pastors could cure Covid or Ebola, they should continue to deceive their gullible followers
Pastors have healed both. And we read them here. Where have you been?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Church Is The Solution To The Insecurity Challenge In The Country by petra1(m): 7:07pm On May 29, 2021
Ken4Christ:
The church is supposed to be a change agent. Jesus has given authority to the church to bind every work of darkness. The physical world is controlled by the spiritual. Before any wide spread violence and killings take place, it has been programmed from the spirit realm.

It is however unfortunate that things have gone the way it's going even with the presence of the church in the country. But the situation can still be redeemed if we do the following;

1. Repent of our wicked ways. There is sin in the church. Servants of God in particular should try their best to keep themselves pure. If you study God's dealings with the Jews, they face oppressions from the enemy when they sin against God. There are too much compromise in today's church and we need to repent and ask for mercy. The Scripture says;

2nd Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

2. Constant intercession coupled with fasting and prayers. The leaders of the Christian group in the country should organize a prayer program which should continue until the visible change is seen. It should be done in routine. Different groups or ministers should hold all night every day to destroy the works of darkness. Our Lord Jesus has given us the authority to bind and loose. Whatever we bind on earth will be bound in heaven. To bind means to forbid or disallow. We can forbid the present evil going on in this country through prayers and peace will return to Nigeria.

3. We must walk in love. There is disunity in the body of Christ which must stop. We should learn to see one another as members of the universal church. Every form of unholy competition should stop in the body of Christ. We should learn to forgive and be kind to one another. Pastors who are doing well should help those coming up. The church should be constantly reminded of the need to walk in love. By this shall all men know that we are his disciples.

Churches that are doing well should reach out to the youths and the needy. Empower them. Clothe the naked. Feed the hungry. Give homes to the homeless. They should stop bragging on the numbers of private jets they have and help the poor.

If churches have been doing this, most of these frustrated youths will be drawn to the church and refrain themselves from social vices.

4. Rekindle the fire of evangelism. Churches today seldom carry out evangelical activities. They hardly go out to were the sinners her. They build beautiful churches and invite the sinners to come. Most sinners won't go to church. The church is not fashionable to them. The preaching of the gospel is the only means that God uses to save lost souls.

I believe if we commit ourselves to these four things, Nigeria will experience peace again. Our leaders of course have their role to play in ensuring lives and properties are secured.

May God save Nigeria.
True word. Intercrssion all the way
Christianity Etc › Re: ... by petra1(m): 8:56pm On May 27, 2021
In my opinion It's more honorable to take offering ,tithes than this Begging
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 8:49pm On May 27, 2021
BassReeves:
1. Hmm. Oooookaaaaaaay, so what exactly does 'born again' mean.?
I don't know how elaborate you want me to go. But being born again is man receiving a rebirth in his spirit . Eternal life. Also by professing the Lordship of Jesus.

1b. How exactly is the expression 'born again' rendered in the original text or nuance.?
You may have to teach us that .

2. What comes first between 'born again' and 'receive the holy spirit'?
Being born again first .

3. Or does 'born again' and 'receive the holy spirit' happen at the same instant?
But there could be spectacular exceptional experience just like the house of Cornelius. They seem to received the two experiences same hour .
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 4:02pm On May 27, 2021
BassReeves:
1. Hmm. Oooookaaaaaaay, so what exactly does 'born again' mean.?
1b. How exactly is the expression 'born again' rendered in the original text or nuance.?
2. What comes first between 'born again' and 'receive the holy spirit'?
3. Or does 'born again' and 'receive the holy spirit' happen at the same instant?
It means to receive new life .

Man is a Spirit, he has a soul , he functions in a body on earth . So man is Spirit soul and body. But the real person is the spirit. That's the person who gets recreated or rebirth. The moment he receives eternal life by receiving christ through the holy spirit
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 3:58pm On May 27, 2021
Kobojunkie:
God's Word is based on "Principles Politics"?
It's Typo error . Corrected . . Kindly delete
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m):
BassReeves:
I love and liked this easy, simple, harmless and innocent questions.
It is a shame you didnt get a direct, emphatic and straightforward YES or NO reply (i.e. avoiding giving a binary answer is what you got)
Abi . Kindly help tell them God's word is based on principles NOT politics

The question(s) for you then:
1. Is or was Nicodemus born again?
2. If your answer is yes, then when was Nicodemus born again?
3. and how do you know Nicodemus was born again?
He got born again along with other disciples when they received the holy spirit
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 10:05am On May 27, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
If you think Jesus doesn't have a problem when the instructions He gave to His disciples to teach all men to observe all things whatsoever He commanded them were being disobeyed, then you think in error because there's nothing that troubles Jesus more than that.

It's really unfortunate that because of how much you place the teachings of Paul above that of Christ, you believe that there was any such thing as Christ's teachings to Jews. There's nothing as such, that's why Jesus would instruct His disciples to teach all men on Earth, not just the Jews, to observe His teachings.

So your excuse of the church not being there at the time is completely baseless, because Christ's church was built upon His teachings, and even Paul who you believe more than Christ was not there when it started. He was a beneficiary of that church built with teachings of Christ.

As for the Spirit of Truth who would guide us into all Truth, which Jesus said He'd send to the church, when He came upon the church Paul wasn't even there, so Paul is no different from those of us who weren't there at first with the church in that respect. Because the same Spirit of God is still here, the only difference between us and Paul, is that he met the disciples who Jesus used to begin the church.

Except you believe as many do, that Paul was the Holy Spirit, then His guiding us into all Truth began and ended with Paul.

But if not, and the Holy Spirit is still here today, then He's still guiding us into all Truth.

Bottom line, what you did with the teachings of Christ because of what Paul said is inexcusable, because even the verse you quoted says that the Spirit of God would not speak of Himself, but what Jesus sends Him to teach, and Jesus wouldn't contradict His own teachings.

So your understanding of the Word of God is really horrible. I pity for anyone who has to learn from you.

Thanks though for accepting the fact that Christ's Gospel of Grace teaches that salvation could be attained by works of righteousness, and that some teachings of Paul as that which you quoted contradict those of Christ. It was that glaring that you'd make the blunder of calling the teaching of Jesus, the Law.

That is, Jesus the Grace of God is now a teacher of the law, lol! Just imagine that? Not John the Baptist whom Jesus said the law and prophets ended with, but that of Christ Himself! Yet you can still see the gravity of your blunder.

That shows how lost and far you are from the Truth.
The long epistle is waste of data. Let's take it small small.

I told you that Jesus doesn't have issue with Paul. You are the only one who have issue because of your comprehension or interpretation.

If Paul is a man of God . Then the problem is you!. And if you think Paul was not of God You need to be clear about your stand .

Worship of God has always been dynamic . Things changed over the years . At one time he accepted the blood of bulls. The pharisees were mad at Jesus for standing against the law of God! But the problem was their comprehension .

So back to our discussion . Do you think Paul was contrary to christ . Let's make the response direct and straight to gte point
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Coming War In Nigeria by petra1(m): 9:58am On May 27, 2021
Kobojunkie:
"Christian" Soldiers in the army of this World? Can a one who belongs to Jesus Christ serve God's Kingdom ​and man's kingdom at the same time? undecided
Jesus would have told the centurion to resign. I'm not aware the Bible spoke against serving the nation I the army

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