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Lostchild:
Brother
Demons do not respect anyone even with your identification of christ. No matter who you are, they will test your Godly powers. They only fear the efficacy of the power in your words

Lostchild:
Please answer me
In what way can you express your authority?

livingchrist:
knowledge is one thing, power is another.
Jesus said there are some demons that cannot go out except by prayer and fasting. Demons do not respect your knowledge but your power.

Lostchild:
Knowledge about which devil? I am certain you really haven't engage in spiritual warfare.

Check this my link

https://www.nairaland.com/6680562/cannot-fully-wage-war-demons#104327924

paxonel:
In summary, God kills people to hell simply because they speak mere negative words?

I don't think God is that wicked.

panpan:
Hmm. This is a very serious matter.

I knew about this exemption from liability, but I thought it was limited to the country of production.
Why would any national leader sign such an agreement?

I just had a look at the agreement between the European Commision and the "contractor" (mRNA based vaccine supplier).
https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/curevac_-_redacted_advance_purchase_agreement_0.pdf

I have reproduced paragraph K on page 3
K. The Parties recognise that the accelerated development timelines to deliver the clinical trial and follow-up programme agreed with EMA means that the contractor under no circumstance can warrant, or assume any liability, at the time of entry into force of this APA that the Product will be ultimately available or will produce the desired results, i.e. shows sufficient efficacy to prevent a COVID-19 infection, or be without inacceptable side effects. The participating Member States are willing to share those risks, which includes an obligation of the participating Member States to indemnify the contractor and its CMOs in case of liability incurred, settlements paid and certain costs relating to third party claims with respect to those risks under the conditions set out in this APA. The Commission and participating Member States acknowledge that the use of Products will happen under epidemic conditions requiring such use, and that the administration of the Product will therefore be conducted under the sole responsibility of the participating Member States.

In summary, it is the receiving country that bears any liability for adverse effects of the jab, not the pharmaceutical company or the international vaccine supplier.

LordReed:
Dey lie small small na. Only the Haiti president was assassinated and how did you know it was because he didn't sign some agreement? The assassin told you?

kingxsamz:
Petra1 come and see your fellow brethren in the lord.

ChiefSosa:
[b]#38,000 in a month! Yet, they'll still pay tithes, offerings, etc How much money will then be left for them to take care of themselves and families? I never knew pastors were meant to collect salaries, I thought they were doing the Lord's work?

Sancte21:
From the above, I can smell the rat of the language of the worldly world!!!

Sancte21:
I CAN NEVER GIVE A PASTOR TITHES

THE BEST WAY OF PAYING TITHES IS NOT BY GIVING TO YOUR GREEDY PASTORS

THE BEST WAY OF PAYING TITHES IS BY VISITING MOTHERLESS BABIES HOMES WITH FOODSTUFFS

WHY NOT PAY YOUR TITHES DIRECTLY TO GOD BY PAYING THE SCHOOL FEES OF ORPHANS

Image123:
You don't need to punish yourself for physical things.

If you need spiritual power, fine. But if it's poverty or joblessness,

HISSCRIBE1995:
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Topic :
‍‍‍‍‍THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SPEAKING IN AN UNKNOWN TONGUE TO THE CHURCH, AND SPEAKING IN TONGUE IN PRAYER TO GOD , AND SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES TO MEN
. Part (1)one .

‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍The issue of whether believers should speak or pray in tongues  in the church is still a big controversy today.
Differences in doctrine is one of the major factors that brought division into the body of christ as we have it today.

It is good to separate like the protestants  and the Roman church (with the aim to bring the truth to light, and thereby bring back unity at the end)  if you perceived that a denomination is in a blatant error presumptuously (purposely),and are determined to remain so.
But it is much more important to seek accurate understanding concerning that which you perceived to be error by pressing into the (holy) spirit, and seeking illumination from his mind in truth and in spirit, for it is written ‍1 Corinthians 2:13-16(NKJ)
[13]These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14]But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[15]But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
[16]For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

Verse 14 said "the things of the Spirit of God are to be spiritually discern not carnally (not by mere human reasoning) but by the inspiration of the Spirit when one contemplate and meditate with an open (non sentimental) mind in order to arrive at the truth of that which one contemplated upon .

And sometimes you could be supernaturally transported into the Spirit realm, and the realities you are shown there would beat your understanding of written doctrines ( without portraying the scriptures as false but revealing the limits of your own understanding) . Test all spirits whether they are of God.

What you saw written as 6 in a book and proclaimed as six in your exegesis (preaching) could turn out to be 9 when you see it from the (spirit) realm from where it was inspired.

Let's dig into what the Bible said about speaking in tongue or praying in tongue (since some people took  praying to God in tongue , and speaking to the church in tongue to mean the same thing)

The apostle Paul writing to the Corinthians in the chapter 14 of his first letter wrote concerning spiritual gifts.
He wrote on the subject of tongues while admonishing them to chose or desire much more the gifts that could edify the church of which he projected prophecy as on of such gift (without excluding the GIFT of speaking in TONGUES )

He wrote.
(NKJ) 1 Corinthians 14:1-2
[1]Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
[2]For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.
1 Corinthians 14:3
[3]But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men.


he said those who speaks in tongue are speaking (that is to say "they are praying" ) to God, and what they are saying is being directed to God and not to the church, (because no one could understand them, neither do they themselves know what they are saying, because the words that proceed from their mouth are mysteries (being a spiritual language that only God could understand,)

But those who prophecy are prophesying to the people (and not to God) so their words could be understood by they that hear them and even themselves.
So prophesying edifies the church because it is directed to the church and would be spoken in a language the church could understand, whereby speaking in tongue (while praying to God) can't edify the church because it is directed to God and not to man, and it is spoken in a language no man could understand.

But concerning speaking in tongue Paul opened another page in verse 27 he said.
(ERV)
1 Corinthians 14:27-28
[27]When you meet together, if anyone speaks to the group in a different language, it should be only two or no more than three people who do this. And they should speak one after the other. And someone else should interpret what they say.
[28]But if there is no interpreter, then anyone who speaks in a different language should be quiet in the church meeting. They should speak only to themselves and to God.

The kind of tongues he was talking about here is not the one you can speak by your own will (that is to say your own doing or understanding) it is different from that type you speak while praying.
The one you speak while praying is not a gift, whereby
The one he was talking about here is a gift from the holy spirit as mentioned here
1 Corinthians 12:7,10
[7]Something from the Spirit can be seen in each person. The Spirit gives this to each one to help others.
[10]The Spirit gives to one person the power to do miracles, to another the ability to prophesy, and to another the ability to judge what is from the Spirit and what is not. The SPIRIT GIVES ONE PERSON the ABILITY TO SPEAK IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF LANGUAGES , AND TO ANOTHER THE ABILITY TO INTERPRET THOSE LANGUAGES .
so this one is a gift, and it is only those who have the gift that can speak or interpret this one.
However you don't need a gift before you can pray in tongue, all you need is the baptism of the holy spirit, and you are good to go, you can start praying in tongues.
Every one who has the holy spirit dwelling in them can pray in tongue, but not everyone who has the holy spirit or prays in tongue can speak in TONGUES (that is different languages of the world) or interpret them, unless they pray to God to give them that gift even though they might have been baptized with the holy spirit already. As it is written (ERV) 1 Corinthians 12:30
[30]Not all have gifts of healing. Not all speak in different kinds of languages. Not all interpret those languages.
TAKE NOTE :
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT.

So, as I was saying earlier in :
1 Corinthians 14:27
Notice he (Paul) said "if anyone speak in tongue to the group, he didn't say speak to God (that is praying to God) but speaking to the church in an unknown tongue, he said let let someone else interpret what that person said to the church.
Now this kind of speaking is different from the first one we discussed.
The first one he WAS talking about "is SPEAKING IN TONGUE WHILE PRAYING TO GOD, "  while this second one is SPEAKING in an unknown tongue TO THE CHURCH (and not to God) thereby needing an interpreter so that the church could be edify.

The first one is : praying to God by speaking in tongues .

The second is about :speaking in a tongues (unknown) to the church (congregation) when there is an interpreter who would interpret what the speaker is saying to the church (congregation) which is a message from (the holy spirit) of God to the church.

So speaking in tongues in prayer to God, and speaking in an unknown tongue that needs interpretation to the church or to the world  are not the same.

I have witnessed speaking in unknown tongue to the church in the former church I was attending.
It use to happen this way
"while the whole congregation are praying the Spirit of God would (sometimes, and not all the time) take over a certain woman who has the gift of that manifestation of the Spirit, and she would lose control of her lips and began to blab in strange tongues , a kind of tongue that is  a little bit different from the normal type one would speak if it to be by one's will. And then another different woman who has the gift to interpret tongues would then  interpret what the first woman said to the church(congregation) .

Now my point is :speaking in tongues is scriptural.
there are three different kinds of speaking in TONGUES.
the three are not forbidden to be spoken in the church according to the scriptures, and the three are not directed to the same person but different persons ; one to God in prayer, another to the church for her edification, and then the other one to men whose tongue (languages) you can't speak naturally, but when you speak in tongues they don't hear you speaking tongues but rather they hear you speaking their own languages (because the holy spirit will give you such utterances) .


The one directed to God is allowed to function as it is a form of prayer to God, while the one directed to the church is said to be put to silence if the speaker can not interpret it or if there is no one in the congregation who can interpret it, so the speaker is admonished to turn it to prayer between his or her self and  God  .

While the one of various languages which is to be spoken to men outside the church (unbelievers) or to those in the church (in case you are a missionary in a nation whose languages you don't understand neither is there anyone among them who understood yours (so as to help interpret to the people) , and you are to minister in their churches.

seborrhic:
You had to quote the whole post just to type this rubbish.
Some of you people can be so irritating.

Ishilove:
This submission from Hymar Idibie David encapsulates my thoughts.
don't know why you people believe this dismissal letter has to do with tithes and offerings.

Nothing in this letter points to it.

Nothing.

You people shouldn't let your anti-Christianity agenda consume you too much abeg.

As someone who was an assistant cell leader in Christ Embassy, I know exactly what this letter is talking about. I have seen it happen.

People assume pastors are just ordained and sent to parishes to preach, pray, remit tithes and offerings, collect salary and go home.

That's not how it works.

When a pastor is sent somewhere, he's expected to "bear fruit". Which means to grow the place he's in. He's expected to show impact. To show workings. How many souls is he bringing in? Is the church growing? Is he raising men ?

In my zone of Christ Embassy at Ketu, we had Pastor Ehis. The man was always telling us cell leaders that he didn't come to preach to empty seats. On Sundays we would be on the streets in twos and threes, talking to people, trying to bring them to church. We would miss half the service and at the end of the day, we would have our own service after the service. Some days we got home at 6 on a Sunday.

And we were not even Pastors o.

And we were not going to big houses or stopping people who looked fine and looked like they had money. We were stopping this mama, this baba, these guys loitering around the streets.

How much all of them combined fit drop as tithe? Lmao. Something wey na we go still feed dem and give dem souvenirs to ginger dem to come again to listen to the gospel.

If you read that letter and think na because of tithe dem sack am, forget, you no get sense.

In Deeper Life where I was born into, we had this evangelism programme called Operation Andrew. This was coined off a bible story where Andrew went looking for his brother Simon and brought him to Jesus.

We would go in groups, stopping random people, talking to them about the Jesus, inviting them to church. . . .

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grandlexuz:
Chai nairaland has got it all..Tell me more about the meaning of Jacob..Swindler
translated from your dialect or am I missing something...

jokality:
Those mannequins are out of morality.

Those mannequins sellers display them unclad and that's how everyone passes by.

Don't get blinded please

BassReeves:
No problem brah

The fruit, is with no 's'

I am sure you know that, the Greek word, 'karpos', used in Galatians 5-22-23, is in the singular, but if still, you disagree with that fact and truth, then please post and come out here with what and how Galatians 5:22 is in your bible.

BassReeves:
There isnt anything called fruits of the Spirit

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ no send you this one at all. That invariably means you are also of the antichrist spirit you accuse them of.

jokality:
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Just look at the pictured mannequin and let me know if it will be okay for your kids to see that.

I know they're also clothed, but they're easily ripped off you know.

OkCornel:
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I can go on and on, a tree is judged by the fruits it bears. A man is judged by his deeds. The fruits of the Spirit or the works of the flesh is the driving force behind the deeds of men.

You can’t say it’s different. It’s the foundation, the essence.

Image123:
. The fact is pastor Chris exercises little or no discernment as seen in his scandals with TB, divorce, 5G and co

You his followers also have the same disease as you cannot spot one false prophet in the whole world even if your life depended on it.

rhektor:
The last question is wrong, completely wrong sir. No pastor or Christian work miracles,

Image123:
Pastor Chris just like most of his followers lack common discernment.

You've got to be either lying or plain ignorant. All the major pentecostal pastors in Nigeria have testimonies of instant miracles, healing of cancer, fibroid, madness, cripple and resurrection.
The interesting thing is that none of the major/popular Pentecostal pastors are accused of staged or fake miracles. TB and his junior pastor have the badge by both members and former pastors.

Image123:
i understand TB is pastor Chris senior pastor but no need for lying on his behalf, that's a sin

Mention one miracle done in TB's life that none of the others experienced.
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