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Christianity Etc › Re: Touch Not My Anointed by petra1(op): 4:38pm On Sep 13, 2020
HRprof:
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OP who are the anointed KING, PRIEST AND PROPHET ?.?
Your village KING is a traditionalist �
There are different types of PRIEST,I know of juju priest �
I don’t get you . Are you a Christian ?

The PROPHET you are talking about some of them use human being for church foundation.
It doesn’t matter there were false prophet in the Bible days too

Please take note. God finish his anointing In the bible,
Wrong, God doesn’t finish his anointing . The Holy Spirit is rather doing greater works now in this generation as the Bible predicted

God is referring people in this bible days not your self acclaim anointed pastor.
God always have men of God in every generation .

All are called but few are chosen. We are all called to preach the gospel that's why your pastor send you for soul winning.
Same thing in the Bible days
Christianity Etc › Re: Touch Not My Anointed by petra1(op): 11:50am On Sep 13, 2020
lomprico:
was David a minister of God?
I dont get your point
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Daddy Freeze Qualified To Teach The Bible? by petra1(m): 8:23am On Sep 13, 2020
TruthHurts100:
This is not a personal opinion. We are going to check his qualification using the greatest authority - God's word, the Bible.

1 Timothy 3:2-7

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

Is daddy freeze qualified looking at verse 2? Is he a husband of one wife? If he left his wife, is his grounds for divorce according to what Christ said in Matthew 19:9? (9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.)

Mind you, freeze says he does not agree with Apostle Paul when it comes to marriage matters. This Paul is a man directly under the inspiration of God.

Is Freeze of good behavior? Calling people all sorts of unpredictable names? Publicly insulting elderly men in the society?


3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

Is freeze not filthy? Isn't he a fighter? Isn't he a lover of money? Associating with known criminals all for money. Using the same platform he claim to be using to teach the Bible to making advertisements? Isn't this why Jesus got mad and pursued people out of his father's house? Who advertise forex from his pulpit?

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

Can we say this one has ruled his own wife well? Are his children in subjection to the lord? What example is he showing to his children with his attitudes?

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.


Only pride would make anyone feels he knows it all to the point of insulting elderly ones whom he doesn't agree with. Only pride will make you show your middle fingers while teaching the word of God and using the F word on people from your pulpit.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

What are the good report we've heard about this man? Can anyone mention any?

From the Bible's stand point this man has no qualification to teach the word of God not to talk of gathering a congregation.

He doesn't even call the son of God by his name that we all know and that has been used for thousands of years.

All he says are empty words that has nothing to do with our salvation. Freeze is nothing but a distraction.

This is not my opinion, it's what the Bible says. I hope this hits front page so Freeze and or his followers can see it.

Peace.
A man can teach under his jurisdiction , the place of his authority . He can teach his younger one and Chikdren .

The problem with Freezing is that he doesn’t know his own jurisdiction . He want to teach the body of christ despite the fact that he is still a novice in Christianity not even sure if he’s born again but that’s between him and God. But he ought to have rather learn under a minister not in a church basic truth .

He was full of abuses before despite his wrong doctrine . But I felt disappointed also that ministers should have answered his errors biblically but they took it lightly. So the gullible people felt his was right .

But I thank God that someone like Apostle Suleiman took out time to discuss Bible with him privately and he saw his errors which he acknowledged openedly that Appstle put him right in some areas but there are still some areas they still have no agreement .

And that’s how they both became friends . That got his disciples angry that he has started to compromise
Christianity Etc › Re: Johnson Suleman Insults Authority, El Rufai, Calls Him A Short Devil by petra1(m): 8:04am On Sep 13, 2020
MiddleDimension:
@donnie @joagbaje @petra1 et al, what do you think about this?
A prophet can have the right and authority To pronounce judgement on a ruler By the virtue of his calling .

Take clue , from Moses , Elijah , Elisha, john The Baptist and Prophet Jesus Christ .

Yet when Elisha was mocked by youth He commanded Beast to eat them up.

Jeremiah 1:8-10
8 Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD. 9 Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. 10 See I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
Christianity Etc › Re: Touch Not My Anointed by petra1(op): 3:11am On Sep 13, 2020
superlightning:
What we shouldn't attack or mock is their CALLING, not their actions.
Why Mockery
Christianity Etc › Re: Fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 3:03am On Sep 13, 2020
Benbellamor:
post where he openly Aknowledge that he was refering to oyedepo as Fowl...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsbGN5P811k

.i am dealing with strong evidence here called FIR first information report....and not inference of innuendos or insinuation
No need. He has apologized Honesty is virtue.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 7:58pm On Sep 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Present the verses where Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, was called rogue please. Thank you.
John 7:12 NLT
There was a lot of grumbling about him among the crowds. Some argued, “He’s a good man,” but others said, “He’s nothing but a fraud who deceives the people.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 7:43pm On Sep 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You want to play the semantic card hmm? OK, please show me the following:
1/ Where in the NT, saints are warned not to rebuke or insult rogue believers
2/ Where in the bible, is says dont rebuke or insult, specifically, using the word "pastors"What words were twisted? When and where were words twisted words?
Please dont try to escape from giving your answers to these two earlier asked questions, reproduced below:
If you want to play the semantic card, that's OK, but please just show me the following:
1/ Where in the NT, saints are warned not to rebuke or insult rogue believers
2/ Where in the bible, is says dont rebuke or insult, specifically, using the word "pastors"

Are you you trying to paint Apostle Peter a liar, hmm?

When Apostle Peter, in 2 Peter 2:16, wrote: "... he (i.e. Balaam) was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey..." are you trying to say Apostle Peter's foundation is wrong and/or his doctrine too is wrong, hmm? I will believe and take after Apostle Peter, any day, any time than ever your eisegesis, preconceived and inferior interpretation of the Balaam & donkey narrative.

"Let them alone: they are blind leaders of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
"
- Matthew 15:14

If white throne judgment is the limit of how you understand 1 Corinthians 6:2 to be, then so be it, but you do agree and accept that rebuking, is about expressing sharp disapproval or criticism of someone because of their bad behaviour or behaving badly actions, hmm, don't you?

I reiterate that the bible has never been against rebuking rogue ministers, believers, saints or whatnots.
Christians have no right to insults ministers of God. Rogue or no rogue. Secondly how do you arrive calling ra minister rogue. Jesus was called rogue does that make him one?
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 7:24pm On Sep 12, 2020
MiddleDimension:
Martin Luther did not leave the Popes to the judgement of god.
You have every right to question or demand scriptural explanation on things that don't look consistent with scriptures. The concern here is abuses and insults
Christianity Etc › Re: Touch Not My Anointed by petra1(op): 7:06pm On Sep 12, 2020
superlightning:
What judgement do you think it refers to? What types of judgement do we have in the scriptures? I believe you know bible knowledge differs from rhema (revelatory knowledge) with all due respect sir.

I await your response.
Judgement, condemnation of another.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 7:01pm On Sep 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You want to play the semantic card hmm? OK, please show me the following:
1/ Where in the NT, saints are warned not to rebuke or insult rogue believers
2/ Where in the bible, is says dont rebuke or insult, specifically, using the word "pastors"
Why twisting words.

"
But he (i.e. Balaam) was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey
--an animal without speech--who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet's madness
"
- 2 Peter 2:16[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

Num 22:29 — Num 22:30
And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee. And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? And he said, Nay.


What part above equates rebuke and insult

[quote]When a prophet/prophetess has gone rogue, even a nondescript donkey will rebuke him/her, so to have his/her brain snap back to Holy Ghost enabled correct factory default setti8ngs
If foundation is wrong, doctrine will be wrong . Donkey only complained

Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by the saints, are the saints unworthy to judge any matter, even if mundane or smallest matters?
Thats for the white throne judgment. What has this got to do with insulting ministers.

If a minister is rogue its between him and God who called him
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze: Mike Bamiloye Reacts by petra1(m): 4:44pm On Sep 12, 2020
solmusdesigns:
Pastors have been waiting for Daddy freeze fvck up on one stupid move to counter him, and he fell
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He has always been wrong. Nobody get hin time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 4:22pm On Sep 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
"
- Matthew 23:27
We are talking about christians rebuking or insulting Pastors .

Jesus was a Prophet , Prophets have judgement in their mouth. "Hear ye him" He was functioning in his office. He is not anyone

The bible does not forbid anyone insulting rogue ministers
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Touch Not My Anointed by petra1(op): 3:29pm On Sep 12, 2020
superlightning:
What we shouldn't attack or mock is their CALLING, not their actions. Judgement even begins in the house of God. We ought to correct them with wisdim in love NOT in hate or contempt.

But however, I am not in support of Freeze's attitude. He is an attention seeker
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 3:25pm On Sep 12, 2020
Benbellamor:
You don't have the evidence ....How will you force your notion on me
He didn't mention name Apostle Suleiman too was bald headed so how many bald headed must we sample to fit into the gap?
He is a friend of apostle sule. They became friends after he corrected Daddy freeze on manny of his wrong ideas and misjudgement . Daddy freeze openely acknowledged .
Christianity Etc › Re: Fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 3:22pm On Sep 12, 2020
Benbellamor:
That someone is a thief doesn't make him responsible for every lost items
There has to be a solid proofs
Daddy freeze DID NOT MENTION ANY PASTORS NAME HERE....

I agree with the fact that Daddy freeze was very wrong for the verbal insult....its unscriptural....
Good

but then, Why are the pastors not engaging him On strong bibles points...
they rather try to blackmail him
He became friends with apostle suleiman after he put him right on many issues scripturaly . Which daddy freeze himself admitted . Thats how they became friends . Other ministers put up posts but and some don't even bother .

but it works for him because He supports his debunking with fitting Bible verses..and check out his page alone over 2 millions followers...
He is a force already
Multitude is not a sign of rightness . Other ministers have billions followeship

I think pastors should come out with strong educative replies addressing the matter and leave the messenger...
I agree with you .
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 3:16pm On Sep 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"
The bible does not forbid anyone insulting rogue ministers
Show the verse where God commanded Christians to rebuke ministers I will show you verses where God says it is wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 3:14pm On Sep 12, 2020
MiddleDimension:
Peter was a minister, Paul rebuked him!
Your Pentecostalism would not have come about if Martin Luther did not stand up to the Vicar of Christ on earth, the Pope.
You can rebuke where you has jurisdiction. That was Pauls domain. Peter came to his church and did open error. As the Pastor of the Churxh Paul had reposibility to correct issue in his church
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Enenche: 'El-Rufai Is A Demon Agent Governor' by petra1(m): 10:21am On Sep 12, 2020
MiddleDimension: Now, he cannot take it when Daddy Freeze comes for his likes
The bible forbid any Christians to insult ministers .

A minister of God can do judgement. Especially if he's prophetic

1 Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 10:15am On Sep 12, 2020
Benbellamor:
You don't have the evidence ....How will you force your notion on me
He didn't mention name Apostle Suleiman too was bald headed so how many bald headed must we sample to fit into the gap?
Firstly I see that as dishonest because everyone knows who he always attack . He's a friend with apostle Suleman.

Secondly either he mention the name or not. The bible forbid any Christian insulting a minister of God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKktEVG9NY
Christianity Etc › Re: Fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 8:56am On Sep 12, 2020
Benbellamor:
I'm disappointed in you..No mention of Oyedepo name here at All....
I'm disappointed in you because you know who he was talking about. But you're using technicality.

Secondly he has no right scripturally to insult ministers . Its a spirit of Antichrist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 7:40am On Sep 12, 2020
Benbellamor:
can you cite where he insult Oyedepo directly I don't think you can find one.
1 Timothy 5:22
. . .neither be partaker of other men's sins . . .
.


He lied that he didn't insult oyedepo but he did he called him bastard


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLKktEVG9NY
Christianity Etc › Re: *fact: Pastor Ibiyeomie Scripturally Unfit As Overseer...desecrates The Alter by petra1(m): 7:18am On Sep 12, 2020
Benbellamor:
Calling Someone A Bastard On the Church Alter....Settling scores on the church Alter Desecrates the Alter
Any Christian who is not submitted to Church authority is already a bastard . Anyone who will insult his elders is A BASTARD

Hebrews 12:8
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

1 Timothy 5:1

1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;


Jesus Did Not Command Evil for Evil....Rather he said the Law says Curse your enemies but I, jesus says Bless your Enemy....
A minister can pronounce judgement on those who trouble the church .



1 Corinthians 5:5
5 . . .To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1Timothy 1:20
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
Christianity Etc › Touch Not My Anointed by petra1(op):
It is unscriptural to insult or rebuke ministers of God . A new generation seem to be ingnorant of principles of the scripture and the consequences of violating them which carry curses

Psalms 105:15
Touch not mine anointed,
and do my prophets no harm.


Sometimes in this forum I Have heard some ignorant people say that the verse above is for all Isreal and not men of God . If you think so You must have gotten your Theology upside down. Firstly is the whole of Isreal anointed . Is the whole of Isreal prophets ? That verse was making Reference to Patriacts and prophets Abraham and Isaac Before whom God rebuked Kings for touching their wives .

Psalms 105:14-15
14 He suffered no man to do them wrong:
yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;
15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed,
and do my prophets no harm.


Genesis 26:11
11 And (KING)Abimelech charged all his people, saying, He that toucheth this man or his wife shall surely be put to death.


That explanation should be enough for he wise.

God anointed 3 offices in the Bible days . The king ,The priest and The prophet. God gave instructions to have respect for such. And by That we have no right to insult such men

Exodus 22:28
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.


Remember that this rulers were ministers anointed by God “priest and prophets

The same way today God has annointed ministers over Gods people .

What if a minister do wrong ? That still doesn’t give us the right to curse or insult them . A minister can only be rebuke by God or someone higher than him but not a surbodinate . I will give you 3 instances In scripture .

MOSES
He was the man by who the law came , yet he was the first to brake the law of intermarriage . He married an Ethiopian woman when the wife left him. Aaron and Miriam who were surbodiates Spoke against Moses for his wrong .

Numbers 12:1
1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.


God judged them instantly read the rest of the story . Miriam became leprous on this account .

Same things goes for the sons of Korah and elders who stood against Moses for having too much authority claiming that “they are all anointed “

Numbers 16:3
3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?


DAVID AND SAUL

It was evident that Saul was a backsliden King. Even though David had been chose to take over he would not violate scripture principle despite the Fact that Saul wanted to kill him . He had had numerous opportunities to kill Saul but wouldn’t do it because of the anointing upon Saul as head . Especially when his servant Abishai asked David permission to kill Saul

1 Samuel 26:9
9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD's anointed, and be guiltless?


PAUL
Paul once had an incident where the Highpriest ordered him to be slapped . He insulted the highpriest without knowing he was high priest . But when his attention was brought to it , he apologized .

Acts 23:2-5
2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. 3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? 4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? 5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.


These days we have people especially on this Forum insulting ministers . It is error which carry curses . If a minister did wrong against the law let the law handle the matter , if it’s against God , let God handle the matter . But stop putting your mouth especially in things that’ you may even be wrong about in your own limited understanding
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Teaches On End Time Live by petra1(op): 8:39pm On Sep 11, 2020
newmi:
Should a Christian join cults like the freemason?
Jumping from heaven to frypan
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Emmanuel Iren: I Find My Wife Very Sexy When She Is Praying by petra1(m): 8:36pm On Sep 11, 2020
Confession. I find my wife very sexy when she’s praying. Imagine me winking at her as she tries to maintain her focus and resist the urge to burst out laughing. Face with tears of joy. Madam, after talking to God, come and talk to me.
Depth of carnality.. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Teaches On End Time Live by petra1(op):
Freemasonry and illuminati are religions
They can claim to be churches too in view of world religions but the difference between us and them is that we are not just churches, we are the body of Christ.
Christianity Etc › Pastor Chris Teaches On End Time Live by petra1(op): 7:42pm On Sep 11, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Talks With top Israeli Intelligence On Jerusalem by petra1(op): 6:02pm On Sep 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Contextually explain this verse in a manner of exegesis and/or hermaneutic speaking please. Thanks
It’s revealed the devil had planned To wipe off Isreal from being a Nation .

Psalms 83:4
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation;
that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.


But God allowed them to be scattered because of their Sin.

Deuteronomy 32:21
21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God;
they have provoked me to anger with their vanities:
and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people;
I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation
.

The scripture above and other prophecies led Isreal into extinction From the map of the world .

And God also prophesied that they will become a nation again in one day.

So they have been declared a nation and prophecy fulfilled and the only thing remaining is for them to be saved nationally .
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Talks With top Israeli Intelligence On Jerusalem by petra1(op): 7:36am On Sep 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Please be specific, and scripturally specific, how and what prophecy is fulfilled
Isaiah 66:8
Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day?
or shall a nation be born at once?
for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Talks With top Israeli Intelligence On Jerusalem by petra1(op): 5:48am On Sep 11, 2020
[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=93796802]Please be specific, and scripturally specific, how and what prophecy is fulfilled

You ke. Nah. Unless you join his gang and become showing the interesting
You were addressing OP nah

, the quadragenarian OP is the leopard who cant change its spot,
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Talks With top Israeli Intelligence On Jerusalem by petra1(op): 5:10am On Sep 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
No doubt, the creation of that state is fraudulent,
Its prophecy fulfilled

but, the fact and thing is, the quadragenarian OP is the leopard who cant change its spot, the perfect caricature, captured and revealed in Revelation 13:1-10, and so is ever busy committing chronocide in the devil's workshop, blaspheming upandan NL Religion forum, opening mouth to utter all kinds and manners of blasphemies, typing, making and waging war on the saints, trying to conquer their minds, with sugar coated lies from the pit of hell and/or dark abyss of blackness. Pardon the pun.
Me keh? Or you meant the other guy

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