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rabzy:
Jewish father and Yoruba mother from ondo. There is hardly anyone you can't get their information

Her husband is Ijaw from Rivers state. Good to know, thanks for the information.

The news would have been, Nigeria is about to get into depression. Nigeria has been in recession about 9 months after her principal took over. Since then till date the recession has been on.

codemaniacs:
so kings "employed and financed Christian missionary societies in exchange for schools to be set up in their communities" but they couldn't employ and finance electrical engineers, civil engineers e.t.c to build up the infrastructure in the ND.

we're in 2020, is it still illegal for them? don't they have money to fund another Ijaw who would work in their interest.

In 2020, there are many Ijaws with seats in the national assembly.

Again, armed agitators are not the ones meant to do the repossessing, its meant to be done by the rich Ijaws elites.

I don't even consider myself a Nigerian. I put ethnicity first. even europeans put ethnicity first.

in 2020, there are Ijaws who own oil wells in this host communities, let the Ijaws who own oil wells reinvest 20% - 40% of their Return On Investment into the host communities.

this is my last response to you.

You just show the stupidity of Nigerians time and again. These monarchs were monarchs in sovereign kingdoms. Some had embassies in Britain and Portugal.

As of then the world didn't have electrical engineers. They employed the prevailing technology of their time. Their biggest downfall was to align with "so called fellow Africans" instead of focusing on their business interests and interaction with the rest of the world.

If they do certain things you Nigerians will be the first to say they've overstepped their bounds based on Nigeria's constitution.

Coup plotters are armed agitators. The same way you accept the bounties stolen by armed agitators from other parts of Nigeria ( coup plotters). Is the same way you should accept armed agitators from the Niger Delta recovering what was stolen from their homeland.

How many percent is own by the Ijaws you talked about?
NNPC Nigeria's national petroleum corporation is largest oil company in the region, the main polluter and the primary force that drives human right abuse, yet no Nigerian holds NNPC accountable. Instead they blame SHELL, Chevron etc and of recent the host communities.

In 2020 out of 109 senators only 6 are Ijaw. Where world do 6 senators form a voting majority?

In the last 20 years there were times the Ijaw nation had 4 or 5 senators. The political system and structure reflects how unjust Nigeria is. They made the system such that the resource bearing communities can never get legal respite.

If you don't feel secured. Make an anonymous report. No doing anything about it is wrong.

codemaniacs:
the laws don't stop Ijaws from creating oil companies.

the neglect is caused by the Ijaws themselves, imagine your neighbor blaming you for his/her joblessness and poverty and he/she does not apply for jobs.

free education after Nigeria gained independence in 1960s.

Ijaws can't be more educated than the Yorubas, because the first school in Nigeria was created in the SW.

have the ogonis tried to create their own political party and vote their son/daughter to get governor, deputy governor or speaker?

military dictators were not of Ijaw descent so you don't expect a non-Ijaw to follow due process on Ijaw natural resources.

since the ND can't issue license at the state or regional level, can't collect tax, can't make environmental laws and can't have right to enforce those laws then they should create an Ijaw only corporate society or private company that will acquire the licence, keep the profits, make state environmental agencies more functional to keep the environment clean.

To start with, it shows how ignorant you are. Schools started in the Niger Delta. Particularly amongst Ijaw and Efik communities were the kings employed and financed Christian missionary societies in exchange for schools to be set up in their communities.

Are you okay? To start with, your government made it illegal for Ogoni people to have their political party.

They changed the law because 1 Ijaw man under an Ijaw party was able to get a seat at the national assembly.

Then why are you making noise here? Since Nigerians condone the aggression of uniformed men from their societies against resource bearing communities then they should also be supportive when armed agitators from those regions repossess their assets people from other parts of Nigeria took through the use of military force.

You are a mad man!
You Nigerians are mad!!
God will so punish you people in His special way!!!

Several Niger Delta states and host communities have applied for licenses to no avail. The PIB got stuck in your parliament because provisions were made for host communities in the last 20 years.

codemaniacs:
GEJ got re-elected in 2011 it has nothing to do with nature.

Its not about creating laws on the oil and gas sector, its about creating companies that are in the oil and gas sector. if you're intelligent enough to call NNPC a "Nigerian agency" then you know that an "Ijaw Petroleum Company" can be created either by a private Ijaw person or an Ijaw corporate group or by the state government, no one is stopping the Ijaws from doing this. there is a cement company called Cement C:ompany of N:orthern Nigeria, what is stopping the Ijaws from creating Petroleum Company of Ijaw Corporation.



militants wouldn't have to strike if politicians from ND had given them free education, if politicians and Ken Saro Wiwa were calling out rich private Ijaw sons and daughters to re-invest their money in Bayelsa. If you see armed agitation as the only solution then you're only creating problems for the ND.

How companies are created is determined by the laws so you cannot ignore the role legal issues play.

You and other Nigerians who benefit from the neglect of the region are promoting this narrative.

Free education when and under what circumstances?

Prior to Nigeria's independence Ijaw were more educated than the Yoruba and Igbo. The Igbo in particular had a deliberate policy of preventing Ijaw children from gaining access to education.

What drew Ijaw people backward was being under the defunct western and eastern region. For Saro-Wiwa's Ogoni people, they've never been able to govern themselves in any form whatsoever so blaming them for their plight is disingenuous.

Since 1960 till date no Ogoni man has been governor, deputy governor or speaker.

In Nigeria, like I said before, oil assets were given out by military dictators without following due process.

The crux of our argument in the Niger Delta is on the right to issue license at the state or regional level, the right to collect tax, the right to make environmental laws, the right to enforce those laws.

Without these, Nigeria is to be blamed for all that is wrong.

No 6 highlights ALL that is wrong with Nigeria.

Fake lifestyle, wasteful culture

Golan007:
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The folly is that 2-faced individuals like yourself are happy to see people denigrate every single policy without calling them out, perhaps you partake in this yourself.

Suddenly, you become puritans and saints when others choose to support government's actions.

Away with your hypocrisy.

In the post did government come up with any policy? NO! They went to borrow funds in exchange for the future earnings of Nigeria till 2047.

But morons believe oil is what will pay that debt so they can't be bothered. Those borrowing them are even generous. They should have tied till 2147 instead of just 2047.

codemaniacs:
If the system was rigged against the ND, then GEJ would have never been president, when GEJ was president why didn't he invest in the ND, who and what was stopping him from investing in the ND. while the Igbos were benefiting did they invest in their region why are their roads still a mess till 2020.

It is not and never will be everyone's duty to pay attention to everything that is wrong with Nigeria. do your neighbors pay attention to everything that is wrong in your house or apartment. streets, drainage e.t.c a lot of parents don't even pay attention to their own children.

the ND are responsible for their plight.

you should never expect someone that is not related to you to help or someone that is not of the same ethnic nation as you to help you.

When militants strike you are the first to complain.

Wike tried to contain Covid-19, you bunch of hypocrites were the first to complain.

Thank you for reminding the Niger Delta that Nigeria is not their responsibility. I hope you will remember to repeat this statement when the next round armed agitation takes place.

codemaniacs:
If the system was rigged against the ND, then GEJ would have never been president, when GEJ was president why didn't he invest in the ND, who and what was stopping him from investing in the ND. while the Igbos were benefiting did they invest in their region why are their roads still a mess till 2020.

It is not and never will be everyone's duty to pay attention to everything that is wrong with Nigeria. do your neighbors pay attention to everything that is wrong in your house or apartment. streets, drainage e.t.c a lot of parents don't even pay attention to their own children.

the ND are responsible for their plight.

you should never expect someone that is not related to you to help or someone that is not of the same ethnic nation as you to help you.

GEJ never became president because Nigerians wanted it, he became president because nature allowed that to happen. The surge in Boko Haram activities further lends credence to that.

Crude oil is on exclusive legislative list. Meaning the Niger Delta states can't even make laws on the oil and gas sector. Even if they do, they can't force the police, which like NNPC, are Nigerian agencies to obey their laws.

Golan007:
No longer 30k for BMC work?

Name.the so-called BMC monikers on this forum with proof they receive payment for their contributions.

Isn't it madness that many people take joy in misrepresenting, insulting, broadcasting hate, belittling their nation yet proclaim those who feel motivated enough to defend it as being paid for their opinion?

If not the number of morons on this planet, who would even consider your statement ?

What nation?

I guess you meant country. People like you are the reason some believe Africans can't be imaginative!

The question is not if people on this fora are being paid 5k, 30k, in kind or nothing. The question is, are people supporting actions that will eventually lead to pain and suffering for themselves and their seed yet unborn?

That's the context.

The truth is, I don't owe you an explanation but I hope that helps you understand the folly of your actions.

Morons are those who mortgage their future gains for ethnic, religious or immediate material gains.

*3 main reasons*


1. They are financially dependent
2. They are obliged to stay in tune with societal expectations
3. Their religious beliefs makes it difficult for them to separate

Fastestmanalive:
Who are the audio investors that want to invest in this enugbe kantiri

And I also saw knt the post that we want to borrow again

They "invest" in debt!
Securing Nigeria's future incomes for themselves till 2047 since Nigeria has stupid leaders and their youths who paying back that debt are collecting 5k from BMC to post rubbish or busy dancing skelewu, Shoki, alanta and all what not.

Igbochief001:
Lol his experience yet he won sug president

Tell me how the igbos marginalized you , is it by appointment or or projects tell me ...

Sha we have bought back the abbandoned property ...still yet invest more ...the first back stab was seen as a mistake

The say you people betray igbos again you would see our dark side

I don't have time to talk with you! Ignorant folks like you can talk about buying " abandoned property ". Boro did not become SUG president by Igbo votes because as of then, the Igbo were the least educated in the defunct eastern region but the punished him for winning that election. Not even Azikiwe could win election in the region. That is why he had to resort to replacing those who campaigned and won elections.
The Igbo elite in their wickedness went as far as destroying pre independence infrastructure because it was not in their area. The tax rate for Igbo was less in comparison to others in the region. Schools and admissions were deliberately skewed to favour the Igbo immediately after they could hold public office.

Why did the Igbo have a problem with the 12 state structure if they were keen on oppressing others?

Why did Azikiwe oppose Biriye's demand for a separate region if they were not looking for a place to colonize?

When Azikiwe back stabbed Ikoli and Biriye that was not the first back stabbing?

The problem in the Niger Delta is that we have not paid you back with your coins.

Igbochief001:
Igbos. Was opressive and boro won sug in unn ? Did you read the wiki reports ?

Which yeye Wiki reports? Did you read what Boro wrote on his experience in UNN that motivated him to abandon his education for an armed struggle?

codemaniacs:
there are people from the ND who own oil blocks they can work together in order to acquire or manage the other oil blocks.

after Ironsi removed regionalism, most of the funds from the regions went to the FG, so who ever is in charge of the FG can give their " in laws, ethnic or religious mates, side chicks etc. " the funds to win the bid.

the other regions have their own problems, it is not their duty to pay attention to problems in the ND. the ND could have formed partnerships with other countries to invest in their region if the other tribes or regions were failing them.

resorting to emotional blackmail wouldn't help the ND.

It is EVERYONE'S duty to pay attention to EVERYTHING that is wrong with Nigeria!

The debate has been on the environmental degradation, it is Nigeria's central government that has let that happen. It is disingenuous to claim the Niger Delta peoples are responsible for their plight. They are victims of power play between the Igbo, Yoruba and Fulani.

We have NEVER benefited from our resources. Prior to Ironsi's action of making Nigeria unitary, it was Igbo people who benefitted from our resources in the defunct eastern region. What is different today is that, Fulani and Yoruba elite can also benefit like their Igbo counterparts.

The system has been rigged against us, that's the truth.

143WaZoBia:
No tribal name.
No Amaka.
This is interesting.

From her surname it is obvious her husband is Ijaw. What no one can tell is where she is from.

codemaniacs:
the problem is its no longer "our collective resources" once the oil block has been purchased by the northerners it becomes their own according to law and so they give themselves juicy employment in "their" oil and gas sector.

If it is not owned by an indigene or a group of indigenes or companies owned by indigenes then it is no longer the indigenes own.

it becomes an oil block owned by a non-indigene who does not owe the indigenes anything.

How did he raise the finance to "buy" it? Did he even buy it?

These are the questions you guys should answer before casting aspersions on the good people of the Niger Delta.

We know Northern despots alloted oil blocs to their in laws, ethnic or religious mates, side chicks etc.

The bidding process has NEVER been fair. So save us that talk.

I wonder if any of you know how Nigeria functions or you deliberately want to absolve yourselves of blame. As a country you failed yourselves and you failed the Niger Delta. You allowed the abuse to take place because you are not from there, you participated in the gross neglect and abuse because your salaries and pension come from there. You turned a blind eye because those generals, ministers and permanent secretaries who perpetuate these crimes are from your village, LGA, state or share the same religion with you!

That is Nigeria's sad reality.

You all come out to pretend all is well when the truth is, you are ALL filled with hate and envy towards every other group in the country.

Primitive people

codemaniacs:
You're the first person I will notice on NL that is blaming the Igbos. most Igbos don't see it that way

but your second post, I don't think Awolowo would have agreed to let Ondo and parts of Itsekiri and Urhobo to be part of a region named after another ethnic nation.

Chief Harold Dappa Biriye's request did not include any other group. It was purely Ijaw. From coast to coast.

It was many years later he co-opted other ethnic groups into his agitation for separate regions or states. That led to the push for what was called COR. It encompassed all the minorities in the defunct eastern region. Prior to that he wanted an Ijaw region carved out of both regions.

It was the inability to get support from the NCNC's Igbo dominated leadership that made him leave NCNC and form NDC( Niger Delta Congress).

The first civilian governor of the old Rivers state, chief Melford Okilo was NDC's 1st federal lawmaker .

Igbochief001:
Firstly it was your betrayal that left you exploited ...don't forget that ...u took abandoned properties lost your oil

Firstly read about Nigeria crude national reserve Wells

No, it was your greed that left us exploited. If your Igbo elite agreed to the proposal of our noble politician, chief Harold Dappa Biriye from present day Rivers state. He called for the creation of an Ijaw region that would have included Ijaws from Ondo till Akwa Ibom. Initially Awolowo agreed with the plan until Azikiwe and his convinced him not to.

The first uprising in Nigeria was Boro's 12 day revolt. Ironically, the head of state and military governor of the defunct eastern region were all Igbo. If the Igbo were devoid of oppressive tendencies, Boro wouldn't have embarked on his brave but near suicidal declaration of independence.

We cannot betray oppressors! Gowon created states, that served our interests. Ojukwu could have negotiated a deal that would have benefited the Igbo but no. All he was interested in was the oil wells in Ijawland.

Igbochief001:
There are people I don't pity in this country ...middle belt and ijaws ( Niger Delta)

Both are comfortable with maltreatment honestly ...how can you be producing oil and north controls nnpc ....

Me I like the fact south east oil are untapped ..let it remain like that

How does your 'pity' help? We don't even need it. The miscalculation of your Igbo elite is the reason all of us are in this mess today. If there was commercial quantity of oil in Igbo heartland Nigeria would have mined it. You have no power to stop them under the current circumstances.

stanluiz:
How can they have those industries you listed when they region is unsafe for investors.

Niger Delta region is very hostile and sometimes they behave like stupid and uncivilized set of people. When they have militant and avengers like tompolo, asari dokubo Sam ateke etc that blow oil pipeline, destroy oil facility and kidnapped multinational foreigners working in they region just for they selfish interest what do you expect ?

What about the piracy in the gulf of guinea caused by Niger Delta militant .

Even they political elites are very corrupt.
They have the worst corrupt elites in Nigeria.

What made people "hostile "? Have you asked yourself that question?
People like you are the reason some people believe Africans can't reason coherently. You should have asked yourself why the first major agitation against oil exploration was in the 90s despite oil exploration and exploitation being an economic contributor since the 1950s. This is because the people gave successive Nigerian governments a benefit of doubt. Is a shame many of you are just as wicked as your governments.

Exc2000:




the problem here is poverty, greed and stupidity

an Oil producing State shouldn't even have Fishermen as indegine... you cant see a Texas , Oklahoma or Alaska indegine/ land owning family in America or Alberta, Saskatchewan, province indigene/ residence in Canada or Abudhadi, Dubai and Sharjah Emaratis who is still a fisherman in 2020 while his state Oil is being sold for billions of dollars daily on internation crude oil markets..

Oil producing states in the world are known to house refineries , chemical producing industries, plastic and pvc factories, fertilizer plants and gas powered power plant, with plenty white collar jobs for indegenes

lets say Oil is found in my very own Ibadan, nobody.. I repeat no fucking body would have the balls to come into Oyo state to come and explore our Oil.. we go don harvest their heads use them for sacrifice... buying barren land without Oil sef, Omo Onile would extort you till there satisfied before you can start any foundation not to talk of Oil Rig

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I hope you know almost all the oil rigs have NNPC as major shareholder and they move in with the army to enforce the will of Nigeria's government. Killing innocent citizens in their mad quest for black gold.

TheEffective:


Without sentiments, Niger delta is arguably the dumbest region in Nigeria. I have never seen a region full of potentials yet highly unwise, tactically impotent. Full with people who bear European names but archaic in thinking, strategy, and objectivity.

If you feel offended, I owe you no apologies but a request that you think of strategic ways to better your people. The same old play book of gra gra and much ado has not gotten the region anywhere.

If I go full frontal on ND, this thread will burst into flames. Flames of truth anyway.

It will not burst into any flames! I doubt if you have anything useful to say. I am not surprised many Nigerians liked what you wrote. Most them benefit from the oppression of the Niger Delta . Themselves, their parents, spouse or a relative who benefits directly from it have at one point in time helped them with blood money from the Niger Delta.

Since you know "strategic" ways the people could get their liberation, why didn't you state it?

Out of 109 senators we only have 18. What you call "gra gra" seems to be our only source of hope. Over 20 years PIB has been in the legislature, lawmakers from other parts of Nigeria have refused to support the bill because of the stipulations that favour host communities.

kovic20:
How did Igbo people end up in the same country with these people called Hausa-Fulani and Yorubas? These two people are just holding everybody hostage....bringing everybody to their level. Go and read the writings of Lord Luggard, he called them low achievers. As long as these two are running the country, this country will never ever progress...never!

Sadly Nnamdi Azikiwe is no longer alive, he would have told you how and why. He was one of those who championed ' one Nigeria '

desiredhome:
How do you mean Ijaw and Ogoni should mind their business? are they not all in Rivers State?

Wike should carry his cross. Time for fight they remember us, time for goodies he takes it to his homeland. He should mobilize his father's house to fight his battle.

Nwanyiogwashi:
We spared our development not like akwa ibom

My dear, much of what Delta state can boast of was before the advent of democracy. The state governors since 1999 till date haven't done much. Delta has so much potential.

If they declare state of emergency Ijaw and Ogoni people should mind their business. They should not take another man's matter upon their head.

Nwanyiogwashi:
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I have been in Akwa Ibom and Delta. In both, much work has to be done, nonetheless, Akwa Ibom has been improving significantly in the last 20 years. Delta and my home state, Rivers have been on downward spiral[/s] don't compare akwa ibom river state with one city to Delta state with many cities

I get your point. It is one of the reasons I admire Delta. My point is, Delta has been underperforming in the last 20 years. Way below the state's potential.

Nwanyiogwashi:
You people are just blind by some few pictures of uyo apart from uyo in akwa ibom tell me another city in akwa ibom that is develop? Compare to Delta state

I have been in Akwa Ibom and Delta. In both, much work has to be done, nonetheless, Akwa Ibom has been improving significantly in the last 20 years. Delta and my home state, Rivers have been on downward spiral