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TheHulk616:
all these TV series are terrible

Or your choice is!

TheHulk616:
that's a fact.

I know you as someone that speaks the truth. So I will advise you to confirm my statement that The Mandalorian is the best TV series in 2020

Lol!

The Mandalorian definitely and certainly cannot be the best TV series of 2020 Which saw hits like:

•Lovecraft Country
•His Dark Material
•Gangs of London
• Warrior
•Raised by Wolves
• Westworld
• Altered Carbon
• Better Call Saul
• Penny Dreadful - City of Angels
•Barbarians
• Etc!

TheHulk616:
The Mandalorian is the best TV series for 2020. That's a fact.

For more jokes, send "TheHulk616" to "Mandalorian".

TheKingIsHere:
The effect won't be immediate na. Come back in 2-3 years and check again.

D+ as it stands has almost 50% of netflix subscriber numbers in just 1yr+( without new marvel content o). Netflix built theirs in over 10 years. And most popular shows that netflix subscribers love are being pulled out.

It's just a matter of when

Lol... You are just underating Netflix based on assumptions and unverified data.

Let's stick to the facts for now!

TheKingIsHere:
Apart from stranger things and Umbrella academy, which other popular/global franchise does Netflix have (not purchased movies/shows) that can go toe on toe with popular franchises like DC, Marvel, Star wars, LOTR, GOT, Harry Porter, etc? How many people even know of the barbarian show? Can this show go head on head with other major franchise and stand its own?

Forbes wrote an article on this, no need for me to say more.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2019/08/20/all-the-reasons-why-netflix-is-doomed/?sh=252df6ab465e

The Stock don't lie!

The Bring Netflix Down campaign is not working! Netflix is already the game changer. Disney+ and co will continue to play catch up for the moment...

abduleez1:
Why should we remove Disney+?? They're the Cheapest even tho they're bumping the price up next year and they've got a massive Rise in Subscribers. Those Franchises they've amassed alone is Tantamount to Success~ [ Star Wars, Marvel, Fox, Pixar and Disney].
Through Netflix is far Ahead at this point. It's still early days and they'll be comfortable for now, not until 2022 and the Tides brings its waves along. That year is the precipice.

Even without Disney+ and HBOMax, Netflix got Amazon to think of– which happens to be the only streamer with Hundreds of Millions of Subscribers after Netflix. The LOTR Amazon is releasing ehn, if it truly plays to its strengths it should Rattle Netflix gains and easily puts Amazon on a pedestal of almost equal competition.
I'm just pained AT&T couldn't nab LOTR series, it would have been very easy for world Dominion with HBOMax.

They can help themselves now by Acquiring ailing MGM which is Home to James Bond and willing to sell to the highest bidder now for about $5.5bn. just too bad AT&T is in Neck Deep Indebtedness~ over $150bn.

Lol. Netflix is the blueprint my brother. All the Streaming sites above have Netflix to worry about rather than the other way around.

Netflix surely have the might to produce Blockbuster shows and movies if they wanted... Although Netflix is still not that good at movie making. But, apart from HBO, no other streaming giant can compete with Netflix for Seasonal films!

TheKingIsHere:
Don't be too quick to write off D+ yet, as it has two very popular franchises (Marvel and Star wars) aside it's classic animations and espn. Currently, D+ subscribers has reached 83m(although the cheap subscription fee is a major factor) , which almost half of Netflix 200m subscribers and achieved in less than 1 year+.

HBOmax also is gaining far more grounds despite starting off poorly, being the most expensive streaming service and only available in the US, and they are getting more and more subscribers each day.

As we speak, Netflix is losing a lot of it's beloved TV shows as most are either cancelled or pulled out. For example Chilling adventures of sabrina was cancelled (or quickly ended) by Netflix despite huge popularity. I came to find out that it is a DC owned comic. Meaning WB has the rights to it and might have pulled the plug just like how marvel did with Dare devil. Same thing is likely to happen to Lucifer on Netflix.

Currently, Netflix brasil tweeted to its followers that they are stopping some of their popular shows. Guess the streaming service those shows are going to? Over time, they will lose subscribers of these beloved shows to competition and will be greatly affected in the long run as major studios will keep unplugging and removing their movies/shows from netflix.

Netflix needs to wake up and act fast by releasing top content regularly or face the consequences of the streaming wars in the long run imo

Lol. Marvel Comics and Star Wars Franchise can't sustain the service all year long. What of non-fans of both franchises?

Netflix has more than enough content to sustain it for the next ten years... and they're all from versatile contents across the world. Basically, Netflix gets new content each week. User Data has also ensured that Netflix will consistently bring out shows that Trend Globally...e.g the current Barbarians Show.

Netflix isn't built around Superhero movies or a specific franchise. When it comes to global franchises too, Netflix has it all.

Think

abduleez1:
Also I don't think ppl are getting Superhero Fatigue yet as Hollywood analysts have been claiming for 2 yrs now. In fact it's CBM craze right now. I think Superhero movies will still wax strong and dominate this Decade. They're even on the Rise as the new normal.

Pointers are in performance of last two yrs:
*Aquaman a largely unknown character to General audiences made over a Billion dollars.
* A Black Superhero Black Panther grossed almost $2bn($1.7bn).
*Joker with Action-less Drama destroyed the holiday charts and awards Buzz. $1bn gross.
*Avengers: Endgame obliterated records and is the highest grosser Ever.
* Spiderman gets its first Billion Dollar gross ever.
* Weak As_s Captain Marvel with shitty acting and wack storyline and portrayals got $1bn.
* Critically destroyed Venom still grossed over $800mn.
* Wonder Woman 1984 still tearing Pandemic Records that even Nolan and Tenet couldn't do, that's with simultaneous Streaming.

With the kind of Ramped up production for DC and HBO content AT&T is doing they can one up Netflix in the long run. They might not yet have the critical mass but they've got the Tier 1 Quality and recognisable Franchises. Also the Crowd Pullers are available to them.
They're playing the long game. Both Disney and WB know they can't just take out Netflix not even Amazon at this point.

What you're also forgetting is acquisition of Talents: Directors, Actors, Screenwriters, Showrunners that will propel their IP. Some of them got massive fanbase, that can help with Promoting and Bolstering their Franchise. Eg. WB with James Gunn, JJ Abrams, James Wan, Matt Reeves etc... Disney~ Feige, George Lucas, Taika Waititi, Elizabeth Olsen, Anthony Mackie etc.

Lol.

That's because CBM's have been released sparingly in the past. Wait till it starts releasing regularly!

abduleez1:
Yes it will take years......I'm reasoning in 5yrs time Netflix will be running for their lives.

With almost all major studios helming their own Streaming service with exclusive content, the market will be too broken down for Netflix to claim hegemon.
Other Studios also do acquisitions mate. For instance Apple TV+ seems to be the streamer with the most high profile acquisitions for Movies initially intended for theatrical release.

No major studio with a viable streaming Platform license their products again to competitors in 2020. Unless previous contracts before their Streamer got online. Even if one can be stupid enough to lend you their IP it's most likely one that is insignificant and holds no key to the bigger picture.
The only people Netflix can lend from right now is Paramount and Sony. I hear Paramount is planning theirs also.

AT &T and Disney got no money to acquire Netflix presently. It's a ginormous corporation. Don't underestimate their Financial Power. That's the main reason Apple got confidence in getting a Streaming service– their financial Muscle. And they are the only one I think got the wherewithal to Nab Netflix. That's if Investors agree to sell sef.

Yeah. No monopoly again for Netflix definitely.

TheHulk616:
thank you for saying the truth

I always say the truth!

Abi you don forget

Skseries:
I don't agree with that, super flew in both movies to fight the villain, they could have added that in there too, if they did they won't have this plot hole they seem to have now


Truth is wonder woman 84 was just a terrible movie IMO, was a big let down, I didn't like captain Marvel that much but I will take it over the WW84 any day any time

Flight is one of Superman's signature ability. You can't do a Superman film without Superman flying.

Skseries:
I think what is DC's greatest strength is also their undoing most times, which is the freedom they give to directors, they do not have a centre vision for their movies, i still don't know how anyone will green light those fight scenes style, even the flying was disgusting, as much as I dont like Snyder movies, his flying effect was dope, what's that poo that patty J did, even in cartoon WW and cheetah fight scenes are always dope, so cheetah renounce her wish? Are we saying there is no longer cheetah in the universe?

Disney will always make big money from everyone bcus of the interconnection btw them.

As bad as captain Marvel was it made a billion bcus u needed to know abt her the moment u hrd she will be in endgame.

DC is just annoying they still do not have a plan and it's a big problem

Very big problem.

In their defence though, DC has always avoided saying anything about a shared Universe since JL flopped until recently.

Here's the only thing I will say About Wonder Woman:

DC should stop watering down their top heroes. We went from a Warrior and God killer to a cheesy washed down woman who is stuck on an old love. It's quite understandable though. But, what I don't understand is the cheesy fight scenes.

Marvel never watered down Captain America and Thor's fight scenes despite everything. In fact, and I hope I'm not wrong, the best fight scenes in Marvel movies always involved both of them.

Nickshrapnel:
There was this scene in JL where WW was falling down the Gotham harbour and couldn’t reach for her sword and Flash helped push it to her. If they had allow her fly in the movie she won’t have struggled to catch the sword. Or maybe the scene was added for cinematic effect

You know na. Na wetin e be.

TheKingIsHere:
You have a point. However, i believe Netflix will face a huge challenge with beloved contents being pulled out permanently from their streaming service.

Disney has pulled out most of their Marvel shows and likely to pull out major contents once their contract with Netflix expires. Same with WB, Sony, Universal etc.

Other streaming service like Amazon are making Superhero shows like The Boys, and LOTR show (cost them $1bn for tv rights)

Netflix most popular shows are Stranger things and Umbrella Academy. And I don't think UA can match the boys or marvel or DC shows.

The reason why they aren't shaking yet is because they are more grounded and world wide, but in time HBOmax and D+ will likely push it out of the number 1 spot.

We have to wait and see sha.

As for peacock, since their content is free I don't mind subscribing once available in africa

Remove Disney+ from that equation. HBOmax will try, but Netflix is far ahead at this point. HBO and DC alone can't feed HBOmax the type of steady content they need to compete with Netflix at this point. Why? CBM is just a genre. Too much of it, you will get tired! The merging of HBO and CINEMAX is a good start. But, as you can see, it still did not do it.

Nickshrapnel:
Both movies had different directors, so I guess they wrote Wonder Woman differently. I also hated the fact that they didn’t allow her fly in BvS and JL

There was no scene or storyline in BVS and JL requiring Wonder Woman to fly! So, there was no need to fly!

abduleez1:
I think Netflix will survive. They're a powerhouse and got the financial muscle and content to counter the 2 New Bigshots.

They ain't slouching either. Netflix is also on a rampaging run to acquire Big Titles in Big or Popular Genres. Eg They Acquired The Witcher and we saw how big and so talked about it was for them. They got Avatar: The Last Airbender rights also– that's a huge fandom from Anime fans and Gen X and Z audiences.
They also recently acquired DC's The Sandman and are currently in production, filming the Series starts soon if not already. They also got Stranger Things(which I'm yet to watch ).

Amazon is doing same with the painful acquisition of LOTR. I would have loved the series on HBOMax so it can be bigger with more critical mass of Big Titles. They acquired also upcoming Wheel of Time.
These big studios I mentioned know how important it is to invest Big in Fantasy or Adventure Titles. Reason why Apple TV is trying that with SEE.
All in all na we the viewers go enjoy am. Especially Fantasy Junkies like meself.

The only people I pity is Peacock and the likes especially Apple TV+.

You forgot to add the recent acquisition of the Elder Scrolls by Netflix!

Truth is, it will take Disney+ and Hbomax years to catch up with Netflix!

Netflix is Walt Disney of The Streaming World. Hulu and Disney+ combined cannot come close in many years to come!

Netflix don't just make films, they also acquire/license from other Studio's. How do you beat that? Last time I checked, both Disney and Warner Bros will gladly license out their titles for a fee to Netflix!

Last last, AT&T or Walt Disney fit just acquire them.