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zzzzy:
what do you mean by fear, confused and move at very slow pace.

They fear that they won't make sales, they are not doing well and the company is loosing money... So they are doing all sort of things which lead to them being...confused

They are confused cos they don't set their priorities right...the issues they are ment to have fixed in windows phone is pending, meanwhile there are busy adding features upon features..


And it took them more than a year to release a new flagship and drop new updates, meanwhile the updates were not too far. How do they want to catch up that way?

danidee10:
This is how you know a small kid insulting and ranting but can't make a single valid point even your title betrays you do you even know what outsell means

1. For your info Alienware is a subsidiary of Dell, They are not two different brands

2. Now i know what you're comparing, thanks for clarifying

3. You believe i'm stupid....it's your belief it's not confirmed yet and you have no way to prove it.

4. Yeah you're right about the rich not bordering about that....but why do average people who have stressed and stolen money just to own an iphone start telling me jailbreaking is like rooting, even the so-called rich that don't know anything about computing start telling me about how iphone is better than so so so....or how mac does so so so....my point is don't make mouth when you don't know something in and out (That's why i said that not cuz of the rich)

5. Don't run away from the truth...it dosen't even come near the Alienware even a custom built pc is cheaper and will perform better than mac, apple always try to restrict you so you'll end up paying more money to get upgrades....Try building a custom mac pc lemme see how far you'll get

6. Thank God you said it's their choice...i just hate it when you guys start bragging about how igadgets are the best ever when they're not...they're good and decent but not the best

7. This shows that you're still a kid....i didn't literally mean i would buy a land somewhere in one village. i'm just saying that the money can be used to do other useful stuff instead of dumping it on a single product....It's still their choice though

8. Can you even hear urself or read what you just typed....obviously you don't know anything about operating systems or computing in general....this is so stupid, i don't even know how to answer you...haven't you asked yourself why something that is well funded can't beat something that is free and open to the general public

finally at the end of the day, i think you need to go and read and research more before telling me to borrow brain cuz it's so obvious that you don't know much about computing....thanks

SMH....I can't argue with you...no time.

ollah1:
Nope. Compare iPhone 6s Plus with top android oems(HTC M9, Samsung Note 5(S6 edge), Nexus 6P, Huawei mate 8, LG V10) and lets see the results of the fastest phone

Fine, I saw a realife speed test on youtube yesterday, and I love it! From now on, that's the only speed test I would listen too..no more benchmark. And according to the speed test, iPhone 6s Plus is still king...

Just watch as the iphone lest these other phones you mentioned behind...


Iphone 6s plus vs Galaxy Note 5 speed test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx6XaV2K8Go
If you check other videos from the channel, you will notice note 5 is the king of androids and beat the G4 with 1 second on the second lap.

Iphone 6s plus vs Nexus 6P and lumia 950 xl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtBHW5Nn2zI
Iphone break light was not even seen here.

zzzzy:
Microsoft is very innovative and I'm a big fan of them. I'm sure they'll fix Nokia right.

Am a fan too but microsoft has fear! Confused and move at very slow pace.

ollah1:
Microsoft wasn't the cause of nokia problems but Stephen Elop

It was the mumu that sign the yeye deal na.

zzzzy:
i don't think Nokia made a mistake there

Oh yes they did.

Meego was nokia future, meego had fans! Nokia had followers. N9 was a great phone. Nokia would had been like apple now, assuming they continued like that after the N9, developed meego, and just do "a iphone" meego phone. A iphone as in, the way we see iphones now. Microsoft is the primary cause of all nokia problems.

greenhulk:
Ha, I've tried different browsers from chrome to Firefox to uc to dolphin, there's no denying it, typing or editing on the web browser for a considerable amount of time results in lags on android no matter the phone. I use a galaxy s6 and whenever I try to type long texts on nairaland I experience lag like keyboard is not keeping up with my typing speed. It is worse with swiftkey keyboard so I had to switch back to Google keyboard which is the smoothest android keyboard, yet I still feel the lags while typing on nairaland. I have to switch to my windows tablet sometimes when I need to edit on the web. This is not noticeable on iPhones.

100% TRUE

ollah1:
The glitches u encounter in touch wiz based. TW is heavy hence the issues but not withstanding it's still smooth on s6 and latter. A friend uses the iPhone 6 and he complains about some couple of lags. The animations tend to cover it up but it still does.

Dude, you believe an iphone is faster in physical use than its android counterparts?

asuustrike2009:
that was blackberry said few years back where are they today? Nokia was number one but a slight mistake made them lost their shares so will iPhone make if they are not innovative enough. Years back BBC was topping the most watched international news channel but now they have dropped to lower scale. The world is changing on daily basis as man is coming up with new ideas to solve his problem.

Blackberry is still not successful!
Nor is windows is!
The only mistake nokia made was signing microsoft deal!
Iphone can't make such mistakes cos they are independent and the os is already too big!

You see BBC aint the same thing with OS.

If you ask someone why he can't buy a windows phone, he would say apps.

Ios and android already has millions of apps.

For another os to attain that level...its gonna take a lot of money and time.

AdaNri1:
Yes, an African's need will be far from apple's case study, talk less of a middle class African. I like old Nigerian music which you can't find on iTunes (btw I also like rap, pop & country)

I don't trust iCloud enough to want to store data there for fear of 3rd party hacking. I like memory card.
There are some things you can't transfer from your old to new iPhone. Still haven't found a way to get all my contacts and pictures from my iPhone 4 and 5 because after updating iOS it crashed.
Just off the top of my head.

If you can't find them on itunes, you can download them with your pc and sync... Cos yet still itunes is the biggest music store...you can also try alternatives like spinlet...

As far as I know, cloud storage is far more secure than a memory card. And if you buy a large memory iphone like 128GB, what do you need an sd card for?

As for the transfer issue, I'm sure there is a way you can go about it, and you can also contact apple and they would help you out....

hilseger:
I gave my iphon 4s to my 2 years old girl to use as toy cos I regret buying it...iphone is f**kin boring and not friendly user...pls, don't tell me I'm POOR oo.

Lol...for only being able to afford 4s! Yes you are.

danidee10:
What pains me is how apple users have become so blind.....they believe it's the best cuz of the money they paid for it
I don't have any problem with them....u can buy your device while I buy my plot of land in a remote location....but don't come n tell me it's better than my android or linux cuz it's more expensive.
If it's about money why are they more linux servers than windows
Or why did a hacker build a self driving car controlled with linux (ubuntu) not osx or windows

danidee10:
op please don't analyze if you don't know anything

THERE'S NOTHING REALLY SPECIAL THAT IOS DOES THAT ANDROID CANNOT DO.....IT'S JUST A BIG WASTE OF MONEY...I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IOS AND IT'S BENEFITS


first of all are you comparing the hardware of android phones and apple phones (u can't make that comparison and generalize the features of the numerous android phones out there)

i believe those that use ios are just stupid and want to show off...only a few people in nigeria know of the benefits of ios and apple products in general

a true geek would always use something that he can tinker with properly, customize and tweak endlessly not a locked down operating system

and don't ever say rooting is the same as jailbreaking, cuz i will slap ur destiny

dat's how one guy was telling me his crappy apple laptop will perform better than a dell alienware

I agree I don't know anything but I know dell and alienware are two different brands!

So shut up!

I was stating the difference between apple and most android manfacturer not the difference between operating Systems

I also believe you are stupid.

A rich man is not a geek! Or must not be a geek! A rich man does not have time for all what you're saying including jailbreak or rooting

Performance wise mac performs excellently well

They are not blind, its their choice. Some androids are more expensive.

What does a rich man with a mansion in lekki want to do with a plot of land in a remote area

Mumu that is because Linux is open source

Please borrow brain and don't bash something uve never used, you only heard.

Emeka71:
Most of those people just use i-phone to copy notes read BIBLE and snap pictures in church. Nothing innovative there.

I don't understand. What are you trying to say

greenhulk:
Honestly I just don't get it. I've tried to see how this relates to the topic but I got nothing. Sorry

Lol

asuustrike2009:
you can continue giggling while another operating system resurface

You think it's as easy as abc

SMH

AdaNri1:
You don't get it do you? People want choice and flexibility, Apple is monotonous and confining btw everyone that uses an iPhone must'nt be 'rich' I am a hardworking wife whom God has been providing for my family's needs according to his riches in glory.

I don't have to conform or be shackled by consumerism just to belong

Well I don't quite understand you now. But you see, apple has studied the rich man and what he wants(his choice) in making their products.

For example tell me what you don't like about the iphone

asuustrike2009:
Sorry bro if I quote your entire page, ask your mum what is product life cycle? Apple is in vogue now but another operating system will come and overshadow it soon. If na lie ask nokia symbian where they are now? Ask Ericsson phone what happen? Even ask Sagem what happen since their name as faded away, because that name is outdated. Every product passes through the PLC, although some get to the maturity stage and are rebranded, some others are withdraw completely from the market.

I don't get?
I get but I don't get?

What is this?
I cannot laugh abeg
Greenhulk come and see o!

ITbomb:
Terrible analysis.
MAC was for targeted users, Windows was for everyone, who won? Windows

And the analogy with a child is pure rubbish. There is a better chance of bringing up a well educated child with siblings than a lonely over pampered child.

Apple is surviving on purely American pride, outside USA, it is basically useless

Dude what are you saying? You are the one saying pure rubbish!

This is apple iphone vs a single brand of phone

NOT

Ios vs android

Even android in total sells more than ios...


So yes! A mac sells more than every single laptop that runs windows!

What I mean is

A mac sells more than a dell inspiration
A mac sells more than a hp pavilion
A mac sells more than a samsung ativ

it is NOT a mac vs windows thing

Emeka71:
i-phone is just too expensive and boring.

Its not too expensive for the rich and willing to spend


What makes iphone boring?

Chukzyfcb:
OP stop speaking unnecessary grammer. The only reason Iphone sells higher is because "THEY KNOW HOW TO BUILD VALUE"....people usually make their buying decisions Primarily on "EMOTIONS"....the way U & I feel towards something determines how much I'm willingy to pay for it..#This is a top sales technique! No matter the poo Iphone brings out, people will always look at it as a phone with TOP VALUE, and no matter the specs TECNO puts in a phone, people will see it as CHINKO.....simply put, THEY KNOW HOW TO BUILD VALUE IN THEIR PRODUCTS"

Dude, yes! You are correct! But the reason for their building of value is still because their target consumer is the rich.

As a rich man you'll like to own something with value, something the poor can't afford, something that when you show off, they would know you're not in their level!

So apple knowing all this, then built a phone that plays that role...

Again! Target consumers.

AdaNri1:
I use an iPhone and I'm planning to dump it for Samsung Galaxy. Apple is too controlling; no external memory storage, no external backup unless iTunes or iCloud, in which case you have to pay monthly for your iCloud space.

You can't buy music externally any music you want has to be from music store. All these are annoying. Granted the phone looks good but after a new phone comes out and you update software your phone slows down till it grinds to a halt, which makes necessary to buy the new phone. It's just too much.

If you are among the 'rich' targeted by apple, 'pay' or 'buy' won't be a problem...

Tallesty1:
Oga.


Apple controls one phone brand and one os, that's why they always come on top at the end of the year.

Combine wetin, Samsung, Motorola, Sony, Xiaomi and Few other companies dey get make we see whether Apple go show face.

Talking about quality and security, have you heard of Blackphone 2?

Dude, what is combine here? I'm talking about 1 vs 1! Apple controls 'one' phone and 'one' os cos they aim at 'one' consumer!

If an android company could do they same, they might not sell as much as apple but defiantly more than most android competitors.

zzzzy:
Obviously it's because there is only 1 iPhone and many androids

Yes, but the reason for the 1 iPhone in the first place is 1 target!

lordizak:
Android beast IOS, Apple sales more in only US & Canada; and that is becos Americans love their own, they love Brands. U can't tell me Europeans us more iPhone than HTC and Samsung. And over here our African brothers "wanna be" culture won't give them a choice. All engineers will prefer Samsung Note to any iPhone. Take for instance in the Nigerian context, Tecno and other Android devices will out sell iPhone. You see, this theories operates only in vacuum. Besides, if my pickin go study accounting, I go flog hell comot from him body.

To first prove to you that you don't know what you're saying, Google it self is an american company.

Secondly, there is no where in the world that a single brand out sold apple.

greenhulk:
I don't know if I'm the only one that's never had problems with mtn. If dem like make them close them, I know that's not gonna hsppen but my life doesn't depend on them. I just borrowed 1,500 from mtn, do I need to finish it before Monday? I don't think so. Mtn will continue to operate, u can't just fine someone over 1 trillion naira and expect them to pay in 3 months.

You are not the only one o! I've also never had a single issue with them!

greenhulk:
Try LG v10. DAMN GOOD PHONEPHONE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJALDMWWc6Y

Just watched this video and I can't stop laughing!!!!
A really damn good phone!!

Oh yes! The said Android takes up 75% of shares in the mobile world, but how come Apple still makes more money from iPhone than these android companies?

There are many reasons to that which includes the 'one vs hundreds' thing but I just want to talk about one reason today, hopefully someone would learn something.



The reason is "TARGET CONSUMERS"

Leave phones, let's face business! I personally does not know much about business because I'm a science guy but my mom does, she finished as an accountant, and I do learn from her. One thing she told me is when starting up a business, you must have a target consumer! You can't sell to everybody.

You see, Apple has this, Apple target is "the rich and willing to spend" whereas Android manufacturers target "Everybody". So this is why Apple would take their time and build a device the rich would want to see, feel and use! This is why the Iphone from day 1 has always looked and felt premium, and obviously more expensive than most phones.

We all may argue that ios or the iPhone does not do so many things, but this is because it was not built for so many people, Apple instead of adding features upon features, concentrated on performance, less issues and customer support. In other words they build a device looking at what a rich man would want in phone. Note, a smaller target! This has made it far easier for them to have less issues, increased performance and best customer support, cos they don't have to built something for a wide range! Doing this makes you add more features and options, thereby reducing performance, support and increasing issue.

Take for example! Have you seen a man with just one child? Compare him with a man with seven children! With all things being equal, that one child would be brought up well to the parents taste or the way the parents wants a particular person or group of people, let's say their family members, to see that child than the seven children. That once child would "perform" better, "gain more support" and "give the parents or the family members less headache" than the seven, And the family with one child end up being richer than the one with 7. All things being equal again.

Think of it! A rich man won't care about battery life when he can always have power supply or far higher resolution screen when he does not watch movies on his phone, after all, a rich man should have a laptop, a TV with cable, and stroll down to the cinemas to see any movie he wants! And so on. Therefore, the first choice of phone for majority of rich men, is the iphone!

Android manufacturers on the other hand wants to make a phone for every and every human being in the world! Thereby adding a lot of features and options! And releasing numerous devices (like giving birth to 10 children). Making devices for the poor, and for the rich too! They can't give the rich as much performance and support, and they can give the poor an affordable device that truly speaks value for money and still does well, create a name, and own a specific market, NO! So each android manufacturer plays a game of risk each time they put out a phone! Will they buy? Will they not buy? Because of lack of focus or target, they don't have specific fans or consumers and always try to create a better phone each year to win the heart of a buyer! Therefore there is no grantee you can make all the money! Cos there would always be a set of people that prefers the other phone than yours!

On the other hand apple has created fans for themselves. Most people call the "iSheep"

This is why fans queue up to buy the new iphone, no one queues for android devices cos there are no fans! Even you reading this now claiming you are a fan, by the time another android manufacturer drops a better device, you will be the first to switch!

If apple fans and target consumers(the rich) takes up 30%, apple makes 30% of the total money in the industry, meanwhile hundreds of Android manufactures shares the remaining 60%, dragging for each single body with different tactics, different phones, no target, no fans.

If one android company can settle, set a target of let say probably the poor! Which is about 40%, meet it and create loyal ship, it might make more money than apple.

This is the same reason The google nexus sells more than other android phones in countries that its available in. And why "android one" project is doing so well, its because they have target consumers. One android manufacturer that came out with a target is "One Plus" and in just 2 years and only 3 phones in the market it is already one of the world most popular brand and made more sales than most android companies than has been existing for years, even still that their phones are sold via invitation only. Imagine if it was open to the market! That's how it works!

If you are thinking of starting a business, especially if it making of Phones, or just wondering why apple makes more on iphone than android companies do in android phones, I hope you have learnt something and I did not just make noise.

nigeriancuban:
the problems I have with android is this their habit of relaesing different kinds of fone like they are using their users as pawns...how can the android in less than 2½yrs have released over a million devices and they do the upgrade in such a way that even the previous one becomes immediately useless....what the hell is android one for Christ sake,and we now have marshmallow or what ever they call it...its insane

Hello! Let me help to drag you out of your confusion...

Android is the OS not the phone or phone maker. So android does not release all kinds of phone, rather the phone makers do.

The first reason is, Android is free! And therefore any human who can build a phone making company can use android os on its device! No matter how useless the phone it makes are.

Android have no standards! I don't think it has rules and regulations self (just exaggerating) so a manufacture can make any type of device he wants and fix android in it!

So I as a manufacturer would want to release an high end phone! A medium class and a low end phone, and some other phones that fall in-between..let's say altogether 7 phones. Plus the increasing number of Phone manufacturers let's say 150. 7 x 150 = 1050. So what you get is 1050 new phones running android a year considering they release only 7 phones a year. But we both know manufactures release more than triple times 7 phones a year and phone manufacturers are far above 150.


As for upgrades...well...that's not google or android fault (even if it is technically or indirectly) Google updates previous nexus(Google own phones) phones when a new update is out! But because android is open source(meaning is editable by anybody), each manufacturer has edited their own android to work 'better' for their phones (even if sometimes it turns out worse) and they do this for each and every model. So when a new update is out, each manufacturer has to start all over again tweaking the os to work for their phones...they end up only doing this on few of their devices before its becomes late and sometimes they could not be done before another update is out!

Android One is just a programme. A partnership between a particular phone manufacturer and Google. What this does is that the Android os would be preloaded on the manufacturer phone untouched, just as it is, nothing changed, nothing edited, And google itself (not the manufacturer) would be in charge of updating the device. And one more advantage is, the device would be more affordable than rivals.

This is why the infinix hot 2 has some missing stuffs like - No file manager. Android OS originally does not come with a file manger. Every Android phones that has one, has been edited by the manufacturer. So when the next update comes, the manufacturer would have to put a file manger again! And every other thing it edited in it. If your manufacturer finds this as too much work and waste of resources.....your phone would never get updates!

Android Marshmallow is Android 6th main version, and the update for 2015. Incase you don't know, Lollipop was released in 2014!

If you want to buy a good phone that keeps updates at your door step, get a Google nexus, aside from that I can only recommend HTC, tho it would not come on time, but they are always the first and the update a wider range of devices.

Thank you

greenhulk:
I don't use iPhone, but this is no trash. I mean what do u expect? IPhone will ways be the no 1 selling smartphone, not because they are the best phones but because they have a huge fanbase and they release only 2 iphones a year.

Let's look at it critically, there are 4 groups of smartphone users. IOS, Android, BlackBerry and windows users. Android has the highest users but they also have scores of Android manufacturers and hundreds of Android phones are released in a year. Android smartphone sales are shared among the scores of manufacturers. Now Samsung also releases about 4 flagship in a year. Galaxy s6, s6 edge, s6 edge plus, note 5. Then if u add all their mid range phones u find out they release about 12 -15 phones a year. Apple on the other hand make there os and its not open source like Android. They release only 2 phones in a year, so definitely u expect them to have more sales.

Let's look at it like this. Let's say Android has 20 million fanbase and ios has just 8 million. Apples will still sell more iphones than any Android OEM, u know why? Because out of the 20 million, Samsung probably has 10 million and the remaining 10 million is shared by htc, Sony, LG, meizu, one plus, tecno, infinix, xioami, oppo, etc. Now out of Samsung 10 million, about 2 million will buy the s6, 1.5 million will buy the s6 edge, 1.5 million will buy the note 5, and 1 million will buy the s6 edge plus. Now 4 mlion will buy the countless mid range phones they release every year.

As for apple, if they have 8 million fans, then 5 million will probably buy the iPhone 6s while 3 million will buy the iPhone 6s plus. So see they will always have the highest number in single phone sales because they release less phones and their os os closed. So if u like ios, u have to buy an iPhone, u have no choice. But if u like Android u have to choose from about hundred phones released every hear.

As for windows and BlackBerry, nobody gives a sh°t about them.

I Give a sh•t bout windows....
But prefer ios...then android on nexus phones before windows....

Its only blackberry I don't give a sh•t bout.

lekjons:
Op must be looking for me, i've played;

Gta 3
Vice city
San andreas
Liberty city(ppsspp)
Gangster vegas
Gangstar rio
God of war(ppsspp)
Assassin creed(ppsspp)
Six Guns
Brother in Arms 3
Max Payne
The Sims
Dead Trigger 2
Modern Combat 3, 4 and halfway in 5
Call of Duty
Asphalt 8
Resident Evil
Fifa 14

and so on...

Clap for your self!!

babylon91:
I like console too just that they are too expensive to maintain and secondly their CDs can get damaged or abandoned easily if it crashes

Dude, is it ps1 or ps2 we are talking about here?

My Pc is my gaming console and laptops are not expensive to buy or maintain (as some phones are more expensive) (some phones are more expensive than Ps4 or Xbox one self)

CD? Seriously? I download games and play them on my pc straight away!! Which can also be done on xbox one and ps4. Mostimes You'll only need a CD probably once, just for installation.

And as for the op! Please! When we are talking about king of "World Cup (game consoles)" don't come here and start asking about king of "Africa cup of nations(mobile gaming)"

I think so too but I don't understand your story

Hotdiamond:
You have the chameleon app To theme your interface. Plus you can use a different launcher.

Yh it changes the home page not the whole interface!! Down to settings, messages and phone...