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 Music/Radio / Re: Your Top 10 Musicians Of All Time by PhysicsQED(m): 12:10am On Jan 09, 2014 |
shymexx: shymexx: PhysicsQED Had to leave out a lot of the greats, since the list is supposed to be a top ten only. I agree that Mayfield is one of the best ever, but I'd rate Miles slightly above him personally and in terms of influence. But my list isn't really meant to be a proper ranking anyway, just the top artists that really appeal to me - for example, I know Donny Hathaway isn't really the 4th best musician ever, but I just think so much of his music was great and he died too soon, and if he had kept going and put out more music he could have been vying for that spot. I love Wu-Tang and G-funk but I made everyone in my list only individuals, not entire groups to keep things way simpler. |
| Music/Radio / Re: Your Top 10 Musicians Of All Time by PhysicsQED(m): 11:50pm On Jan 08, 2014 |
1. Jimi Hendrix 2. Robert Johnson 3. Bob Marley 4. Donny Hathaway 5. Nas 6. 2pac 7. John Coltrane 8. Fela 9. Miles Davis 10. Michael Jackson Honorable mention: Frank Sinatra, Herbie Hancock, Charlie Parker, Dave Brubeck, Rakim, Chuck Berry 2 Likes |
| Politics / Re: BREAKING NEWS: We Dont Verify Documents Of Political Nominees-senate's Spokesman by PhysicsQED(m): 6:04am On Jan 08, 2014 |
jethrodave: We Dont Verify Documents Of Political Nominees- Senate's Spokesman- Read Details Here http://naijasharpnews.com/?p=2005 Apparently the State Security Service is responsible for verifying such documents, and not the senate. Since that's the case, the SSS should provide an explanation to the public through an official statement about what university she told them she had an MBA from. Nobody needs to even wait for Stella Oduah to make a statement to get to the bottom of this. If the SSS doesn't release an official statement, then all that needs to be done is to ask all of the people that vetted her to reveal what she originally claimed about where her MBA was from. Hopefully Nigerian journalists will step up to the task. 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: Photos: Meet Jen Selter, The Woman With 'the Best Butt' On Instagram by PhysicsQED(m): 5:03am On Jan 08, 2014 |
lovyna57: Now at 1.3 million followers, Jen has dumped school to focus entirely on promoting her derriere online because First of all this is just silly and short-sighted. I guess she wasn't serious about school anyway, but when her 15 minutes of fame are up, what will she do then? Second, this chick is just average looking, and before her plastic surgery she wasn't even average looking, but below average: http://teensandplasticsurgery.files./2012/11/20100405-750-1071.jpg http://i.imgur.com/irgqw8L.jpg (this is from: http://www.reddit.com/r/barstoolsports/comments/1o10uk/jen_selters_nose_job/) There are loads of women out there with nice figures who are actually facially attractive, unlike this girl, who is only average at best after heavy plastic surgery. Third, all these news outlets are just giving her more attention (which, clearly, she desperately craved when she started this) and probably more eventual (undeserved) money because of that. Not to sound like a "hater" or anything, but just calling it how I see it. |
| Politics / Re: Stella Oduah Lied About Her MBA Degree - Sahara Reporters by PhysicsQED(m): 11:45pm On Jan 06, 2014 |
Wow. If this is true, then that's extremely dishonest. I'd like to see this story get more attention to see if she (or anyone else) can explain this. 4 Likes |
| TV/Movies / Re: James Avery, Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air Actor Is Dead by PhysicsQED(m): 9:35pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
Rest in peace. |
| TV/Movies / Re: . by PhysicsQED(m): 12:20am On Jan 02, 2014 |
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| Culture / Re: The Ways Of A Bini(edo) by PhysicsQED(m): 12:11am On Jan 02, 2014 |
NRI PRIEST: bokohalal: Odenigbo Aroli: bokohalal: |
| Politics / Re: Boss Putin Says No To Sharia And Multiculturalism by PhysicsQED(m): 8:41pm On Dec 30, 2013 |
To the OP, it should have been obvious that this supposed speech by Putin is completely fake. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/r/Putin-Says-No.htm#.UsHL8fuwWuo http://www.hoax-slayer.com/putin-duma-speech-sharia-law.shtml |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 8:30am On Dec 21, 2013 |
macof: I understood his post just fine, and I didn't say that I disagreed with this aspect of his post, I just pointed out that it seemed that no one had actually claimed that there was a unifying language in the thread to begin with, and I also noted that there was some serious misinformation in his post. As long as he refrains from presenting some incorrect statements as reality, then I have no real issue with his expression of his opinions in the thread. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 4:59am On Dec 21, 2013 |
Nowenuse: As for those here who are claiming that there is a language like Edo language, I seriously laugh at them. By all means, do pursue whatever your agenda is on this thread, but please, while doing so, don't mislead other people with incorrect information. The language spoken by the people of the city you said you are residing in (Benin city) is called Edo by those who speak it (the 'Bini' (Edo) people). It's rarely called 'Bini' by those who speak it, and no older 'Bini' (Edo) person with the least bit of familiarity with his/her culture calls it that - at the very most, a younger Bini person abroad might refer to it that way. The rest of those languages (Esan dialects, Etsako dialects, Owan dialects, etc.) in Edo state are sometimes called "Edoid" by academics or laymen who picked up the term from academics, in order to indicate that they are "similar to Edo" (that they have linguistic similarities to the language of the 'Bini'). However, calling non-Bini groups from the old Bendel state that speak closely related languages (to that of the Bini) by the name Edo or calling them Edo people is more of a modern thing - and there definitely isn't anything wrong with doing that - but understand that the frequent use of "Bini" is just to specify a particular group and avoid possible confusion about what group one is referring to - it's not that it's truly a proper term. Also please don't give people the impression that the 'Bini' actually "prefer to answer Bini." It's not even remotely true that the "Bini," prefer to answer to the name Bini either in reference to the people or the language. The preference is for the word Edo. If Edo is not used - perhaps to avoid confusion about what group is being referred to - then the preference is for terms like "Benin people" or "Benin language." I am yet to see this supposed fondness for the term "Bini" on the part of the Bini manifest itself in real life after growing up in a Bini family and interacting with Bini friends and relatives throughout my life - neither parents nor any other family members used the term. Frequent use of the term Bini by Nigerians (whether Bini or non-Bini) occurs just to indicate a specific group of people and avoid any possible modern day confusion (over whether one is referring to the 'Bini' alone, or to other surrounding groups as well), not because the people themselves (the Edo/'Bini'/Benin people) have some particular fondness for the term. Also, it's just not true that "Within Bini, there r numerous dialects," as you stated in your post. That's also incorrect. As for the rest of what you posted, I don't think that anything you wrote was any sort of new revelation to anybody. As far as I can tell, no one in this thread was claiming that the Edo language ('Bini') is mutually intelligible with any Etsako dialects, Owan dialects, etc. or that there is some sort of "all unifying central Edo dialect" (such as the type Enahoro and others wanted to construct) or any of the other things you referenced in the rest of your post. Just let the matter rest. Whatever good points you wanted to make in your earlier posts, you've already made, and now you're just veering off into stuff you seem not to have actually looked into. 4 Likes |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:23am On Dec 20, 2013 |
coolest01: i wasnt referring to ur previous posts,i was only trying to clear the air by stating facts about my own group. And to answer ur question,we in ojah are not the same (ethnically) with those in akoko,ondo state Okay, understood. And my apologies for misinterpreting your earlier post. |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:10am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: Not really "animated," just annoyed at the way you post sometimes. It's annoying when people read unintended offense into simple statements of disagreement. Your other two questions aren't really worth answering, but if I somehow suddenly agreed with you (and apparently macof), that Edo isn't an ethnic group, but just part of some vaguely defined "southeastern Yoruba ethnic group," would that make you happy? And would it not even bother you that it's not even true? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:08am On Dec 20, 2013 |
coolest01: calm down. Im from akoko edo...ojah is the name of my village,close to ososo.people that know that area of edo state will know that akoko edo people although edo state by origin have close ties with the akoko people from ondo state(yoruba). We the akoko edo people especially from ojah have a different language entirely differnt from the benin or the yoruba. We even borrowed more words from the yorubas than from other edo tribes. Hence,we are very capable of speaking yoruba fluently I don't recall saying people from Akoko Edo speak the same language as people in Benin. Are you sure you understood my previous posts? I don't know of a single native language in Akoko Edo that is mutually intelligible with the language of Benin (Edo) or Yoruba ('Oyo'), but then again that was never the issue. The issue is, do you see yourself as "the same with" those in Ondo? Having or not having "close ties" or speaking Yoruba isn't even the issue. Are you guys in Ojah "the same with" (ethnically) the Akoko in Ondo? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:57am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: I didn't say it was necessarily made up, but I just don't take everything you say on here (NL) at face value anymore, since you did spend a lot of time on here pretending to be from different ethnic groups (Kanuri, Kanuri +Igbo, etc.). |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:52am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: Stop distorting the meaning of my posts. I don't see how or why Obanikoro or Eletu chiefs would be claiming to be Edo because of a presumed Edo origin centuries ago and I don't see what relevance that has to anything I've been saying to macof or other posters in this thread. I don't recall commenting in any way on "the relationship Yoruba groups had before the formation of Nigeria," where Benin "went through" or the issue of a "hand of friendship" from other groups in this thread. I also don't recall "ringing" anything into anyone's ears. In fact, I had been ignoring this thread for a while to see if it the discussion would resolve itself without the possibility of me having to comment, but unfortunately that wasn't the case. When I did comment, it wasn't to attack anybody or drill anything into anyone's ears, but to express disagreement. And for you to even characterize my discussion with macof where I simply disagreed with him over his numerous attempts to deny that Edo was an ethnic group (that is not a "hand of friendship" whether you want to admit it or not) as "ringing" something into your ears or "antagonizing" anybody is annoying. If you can't assess my posts dispassionately within the context of the thread without reading non-existent offense into inoffensive statements, then don't bother commenting towards me in this thread. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:29am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: I don't think there is any point of arguing here. Edo is a language on it's own just like ijebu, owo, Akoko etc Either you met someone from Ayanran or Kakumo or Igarra that had moved to Ondo and settled in, or the man didn't know his native language, or (and this is possible, given your antecedents) this is a completely made up story. This "Akoko people" stuff as it relates to the Akoko Edo is something I already commented on and I don't intend to repeat myself again on the very same thread. 2 Likes |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:24am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: Afenmai is a word to group all the peoples in Edo north together, not just the Akoko Edo peoples. Some of them move to the north occasionally or move to other states. I don't see what the relevance of that is to the discussion that was occurring on this thread. 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:12am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: Smh that's how physics and co were saying eko, akure are edo people. Smh I've actually never said anything like that at any time. I recall that bokohalal said a while back that some elderly Edo people see certain Yoruba tribes (not 'Eko'/native Lagosians, though, but other groups) as Edo tribes. Maybe that's what's you're thinking of. |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:10am On Dec 20, 2013 |
alj harem: Physics are you saying Akoko edo are edoid ? Because you are saying Akoko edo people have no affiliation with Akoko people. Alj Harem, there are multiple different groups in Akoko Edo and the vast majority of those groups do in fact speak "Edoid' languages natively. What do you see them as, and what affiliation (besides trade, being neighbors, or use of a lingua franca) do you see between them and the Akoko of Ondo? 2 Likes |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 8:57am On Dec 20, 2013 |
Nowenuse: PhysicsQED and Big Francis. The akoko-edo ppl hv so much closness with akoko ondo, pls no doubt. I am presently in benin, edo state now, I have an akoko edo hostel mate nd believe me he always believed that his ppl were ancestrally from Ondo precisely, in fact I was the one who challenged him to som researches before he discoverd that they were more bini (Edo) than yoruba ancestrally. Those ppl r just mixed up. The igarras among dem have ebira origin mixed with yoruba elements. I'm in Uniben area and have 3 other friends from same akoko edo area from difrent tribes there, and believe me, these ppl r just too fit to be yorubas, yoruba (oyo) is almost all they speak. Do you know that there was/is a demand for the creation of Akoko state of which the Akoko-edo ppl were to be merged with with those akoko of Ondo state? Though I must say that many akoko edo ppl r now havin a firmer grip of their edo roots and some stopped answering their yoruba names (especially those who are more edo than yoruba). The conclusion is that the ppl are mixed. Some more Edoid and some more yoruboid. It's more than a thing of boundary. I didn't say the Akoko Edo peoples were all one ethnically homogenous "Edoid" group, but the point is the Akoko label in that name isn't to tie them ethnically to the Akoko of Ondo - it's just total confusion about that name (Akoko Edo) to even think that. Also, from some of your previous comments in this thread, I'm not sure you're speaking from extensive knowledge about some of the things you've been saying. After you've made a statement like "there is really nothin like an Edo language" (in an earlier post) even while saying that you're residing in Benin city, where the language is called just that - Edo - how am I supposed to believe that you're interpreting all the things you hear and see around you correctly? Your only really relevant point in this post seemed to be that the Igarra are not speakers of "Edoid" languages natively - yeah, I know that, but I don't recall saying that they were. I don't even recall saying that every single group there (in Akoko Edo) was Edoid speaking. However, the overwhelming majority of those groups in Akoko Edo are speakers of "Edoid" languages - as in, their native languages have significant similarities with the Edo language. The exceptions as far as I can tell being the people of Ayanran, Kakumo, and Igarra. The Igarra don't claim to come from Ondo though they too use Yoruba as a lingua franca, and as for the non-Edoid language speaking towns of Ayanran and Kakumo, those are just two out of all the rest (state boundaries don't exactly mirror linguistic groups - there are also "Edoid" groups outside of Edo and Delta states). Virtually all the rest are speakers of "Edoid" languages natively and if there are groups claiming to be from Ondo (rather than from other places in Edo state, as is usual for people in that area), or claiming to be "mixed" you can list the specific group you're referring to, rather than lumping in the entire area as being "mixed" because of the lingua franca used there. Few (if any) groups in southern Nigeria have never had any segment of their population mix with their neighbors, but that doesn't change what the real ethnic classification of their overall group is. 3 Likes |
| Foreign Affairs / Re: Nigeria- South Africa F A Q s by PhysicsQED(m): 8:16pm On Dec 19, 2013 |
MyJoe, while I found your post interesting and agreed with some (but not all) of your points, could you do the rest of us from the younger generation (who might not be as knowledgeable as you are about these past events) a favor and explain this statement in detail and with references: MyJoe: Nigeria probably contributed more than any other country to the fight against apartheid. I see that you mentioned 4 things in the opening post that you see as evidence for this statement, but could you go into much more detail (if possible) and provide detailed sources/references about Nigeria-South Africa assistance in those areas, and then make comparisons to other countries that aided South African resistance during apartheid, so we can see if this is actually true. I ask this only because, some public officials (including accomplished ones like Fashola) and leaders have echoed similar sentiments and I would just like to see what all the evidence for it is. I know a little bit about the actions against apartheid of certain leaders. But I would just like to see the fuller picture and see what the case is for saying that Nigeria "probably contributed more than any other country." 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 7:40pm On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: What does "of the same ethnic group" mean there? Speak clearly. Edo is an ethnic group in and of itself - if you refuse to acknowledge that, it might be because of some deep seated chauvinism or willful ignorance. That the Edo have links with other ethnic groups or subgroups of other ethnic groups is not denied by anybody, but that is not the issue here. Today Owo, Akure, Akoko-Ondo are referred to as "Yoruba" I don't even understand why this is a question or what you're failing to understand here. Perhaps you're just trolling. Edo is an ethnic group by itself. This is obvious. So their reaction is not to oppose but indifferent and such talks are Not always brought up by Me. If they were all "indifferent" to the things you claim, then why do you still stand by these claims? 2. Because I see their relationship towards Yoruba of today How does your interpretation of "their relationship towards Yoruba of today" relate to how they see themselves? Why would you assume that entire groups see themselves as being "the same with" another ethnic group because you see some people at some cultural events? For u bringing up Hausa it shows that u are confused I'm not confused at all - it's not about what they're referred to or claimed to be by outsiders. It's about what they see themselves as. That is a very simple idea to understand. They refer to themselves with the name of their town, same with Ekiti people. An Ekiti would refer to himself with the name of his town. Or their ethnicity ('tribe')! Not just the name of their town. "Uneme people", "Okpameri people" etc. Geographical reference u say? Explain wat Geography brought them the name Akoko-Edo while u at that explain the same for Akoko-Ondo I don't know why the Akoko in Ondo are called that - that's obviously the original source of the name (Akoko). Perhaps that name has something to do with the sacred tree (akoko) found in Ondo and other places, or maybe the origin is something entirely different (one writer in the early 20th century claimed that the name was "given to them by the Filane" (i.e. Fulani raiders - that particular writer labeled those Nupes with partial Fulani ancestry that were carrying out raids as Fulani)). But the Akoko Edo were so called not because of a particular ethnic affiliation to the Akoko in Ondo, but because they were perceived to be "Edo" (i.e. Edoid) people in the "Akoko" area (an area right next to where the Akoko people of Ondo are). That's why I said it was geographic. As for "how/why they are different as I claim," the people themselves will tell you they're different, if you ever have the chance the meet any of them. They know who they are, and "Akoko Edo" is just a label to group them together. You're reading too much significance into that word (Akoko) beyond what is actually there. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 6:27pm On Dec 19, 2013 |
I have another question for you Macof. What is the point of all these new classifications? What purpose does it serve? I have some idea of why linguists engage in classification schemes and classify different populations according to language, but what is the purpose of these (clearly not language-based) classifications you are carrying out? 2 Likes |
| Jokes Etc / Re: Funny Names Boys Use To Store Their Girlfriend's Number by PhysicsQED(m): 6:15pm On Dec 19, 2013 |
The opening post was actually funny (a lot of the jokes in this section aren't). |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 6:04pm On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: First, I asked you to tell me if you had ever told any of your Edo friends some of the stuff you'd been saying on this thread and to tell me what their reaction is/was. You didn't answer that and instead went on to tell about what you were told by one random guy you met in Abuja one time. Second, I asked you to tell me why you (for some reason) believed that the peoples of Akoko Edo saw themselves as being "the same with Yoruba" like that one guy from Abuja, but instead of answering that you went on to start telling me about stuff I didn't ask about like what lingua franca they use (if they had been next to lots of Hausa speakers, they might be speaking Hausa today as a lingua franca - would that somehow make them "sibling tribes" to the Hausa who somehow share the same origin with the Hausa?) or who you think they share an origin with. I told u Akoko( Akoko-Edo and Akoko-Ondo) speak Oyo language as well as their indigenous languages You've probably never met anyone from Akoko Edo. I actually have and they don't even refer to themselves as all being "Akoko people" (at least not the ones I met) because that's not who they are, and they don't conflate themselves with the people in the Akoko area of Ondo. Please tell me which person from the Akoko Edo area told you that his people were "Akoko people" who were of the same ethnic group with the people in Ondo and what his explanation for this point of view was. You make seem as if Akoko-edo and Akok-ondo are totally different group of people If you had a true interest in those people (in Akoko Edo) besides mentioning them for the purpose of muddling up already understood classifications, you too would see that, in fact, they are different peoples. Do you not get that the "Akoko" label in the term "Akoko Edo" is just a geographic reference to tie them all together? It's not some sort of attempt to tie them ethnically to other groups of people in an area of another state (Ondo) who have different indigenous languages from them. 2 Likes |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 11:54am On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: You keep avoiding some of my questions without giving a reason. You made it seem like the "Akoko people" (referring to the peoples of the Akoko-Edo area of Edo state) had the same views as that one guy you met in Abuja, but when I asked you why you thought this, you didn't explain. New questions, since you avoided some of the previous ones. 1) How are they "sibling tribes" and 2) Please tell me what this "same origin" is. Speaking "Oyo" is not relevant to what they are - some Ijaws in Ondo state speak Yoruba, some non-Hausas speak Hausa, etc. It doesn't change what those people are ethnically or what they know themselves to be. 2 Likes |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:55am On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: You keep referring to "Akoko people" in this thread. You do realize the Akoko-Edo (I assume that's the place that you meant to refer to) peoples are quite distinct from the Akoko in Ondo state, right? I'm referring to the Okpamheri, Ososo, Oloma, Uneme, etc. of Akoko-Edo. They're all different groups from one another, and they're different from the Akoko Yoruba in Ondo state. They (the people in the Akoko-Edo area of Edo state) have their own languages, and they don't claim to be Yoruba or claim to be "the same people" with Yoruba. If you think that they think they're Yoruba or "the same with Yoruba", can you at least tell me why you think this? 3 Likes |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:41am On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: Okay. And were you guys conducting a business transaction? Was he trying to sell you something?  I'm kidding of course.But on a serious note, I get it - he believes the Edo and the Yoruba are the same people because of some similarities or some shared history - that's cool and he's entitled to his belief. It's nothing outlandish for him to see things that way, even if, ultimately, it's misleading or inaccurate. But just don't take his view as necessarily representative or anything - it's one man's opinion. 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:22am On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: This doesn't really answer the question I posed, but okay, I'll guess I'll move past that. This person you mentioned, do you know where was he from (in Edo state)? And was he living in Edo state or in the southwest when he made that statement? It's not that I don't believe you - I'll definitely take your word for it. But know that he is only expressing his opinion and that a large number of people from the same state as him would disagree with him about that. On the flip side, perhaps a few others might agree with him, but it probably doesn't make sense in this instance to read too much into the opinion of a few people out of the larger group. 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Edo People Speak Yoruba? by PhysicsQED(m): 9:30am On Dec 19, 2013 |
macof: So have you told them some of the things you're saying on this thread? What was their reaction? |
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