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https://www.nairaland.com/1347298/sincere-opinion-sister-please-think/

vivianc .. your post was MINT!!

I still want to give her some benefit of doubt considering she is young and may not appreciate what she has hence I say a small moratorium so she can see the world for really what it is

Yes.. Her temperament may not help matters

As much as it may be true she may be looking for an exit.. The guy may also be abuser (a small but a plausible scenario)

I still feel VURE should delay the wedding, grow up a little more, observe

Praise God..

I'm happy he was found

Debrief the boy and let him understand the consequances of his petulance that it could have been more costly

You can provide a small mobile phone (nokia 1200) with 500 credit only to be used in emergencies so you can reach him again

Also let him start using bus small small..

Common areas like alapere, demurin, toll gate, ojota yaba on rthe ketu n mainland axis so he can find her way anytime


Nneka your stattement was unncecessary and served to aggravate the thread.. An apology is in order

You don't want to experience certain things at all

Becacia.. The Lord's favor is on you and your family

noted..

thanks

Ndipe: Whitney did not formally adopt that boy, so they could, if they want to get married, without contravening the laws of the society.

ehya..


na today?

no be united use 36 years before dem win in 1992?


as a gunner we r down n need fear no fall.. as long as mozilla delivers

but united fans are wailing after a small blip because fergie is coming back

#42million is working

r231: What do you expect from gurners fan......

The last time una won anything my kid just started crawling now she is in secondary school and in wenger you still trust

Who laugh last laugh best.......so wait till January

That is clear..


Pain had more than one summon

Tosyn007: Obito's words..."Oh a NEW SUMMON"...that I think means a shinobi can make more than animal contract..

@kimco dont mind the harassments

i answered ur quastion oo

lets have a low key debate

kishi has plot holes like crap

Interesting but I think the akarigbo is still under the awujale

It may just be a power play to be seen as an independent just like the olubadan and alaafin

Meanwhile loyal sorry royal loy.. What happen at shaktar..

Don't worry united will play yuropa again

Up moyes

United fans.. Smile and Be cool

Whow..... city sorry o

bellong: My mum is from the outskirt of Ijebu because they do not see themselves as Ijebus. They call themselves "Remo". The people from Remo are Ikenne, Sagamu, Ipaara, Sapade, Ode-lemo, etc..... My dad is from Lagos.. I am a Lagosian by origin and birth

Eko oni baje ooooo

Remos are ijebus

Wow..

Djtm: See civilized fighting!!!! *forms handseals for siddon look no jutsu*

Bros that is old school... now we do ghostmode

kimco: lol dude, ain't gone, jux wont be arguing anymore.

bros nobody say make u do ghostmode like me

I checked the manga and u were right

But i dont know when he signed the contract with the hawks


https://i31.mangapanda.com/naruto/477/naruto-1100457.jpg

ijebus occupy some parts of lagos and ogun states

Big towns are Ikorodu, Epe, Ijebu Ode, Ijebu Igbo, Sagamu

Chillisauce: Where is ijebu located abeg. Pardon my ignorance, is it like the Ijaw tribe. Present in several state, or are they justin one state.

As per ijebu garri, I can only swallow it. I find it dirty most times.

Black things everywhere, make I no go drink person fried Shiite abeg.

Infact, I can't even remember the last time I drank garri after I saw some women on how they package the garri and flies perching on it.

If not hot water, I no de

Feraz:

Biolabee, Parnassus, where them this guys dey? Even SageNaruto? . . .

Ok. . .no go lowkey again oh.

people dey,.... they just roll in n roll out

Autobot tinz

Vure: Okay Okay I get it.
Thanks everyone.
*goes back into shell*

Please still search your heart... even if things are not to be with this guy... do it honourably..

For now u can delay the marriage to review things, have some sense of independence but pls not to poke around n be wild

If your feelings have not changed.. then u tell him


@2sexy.. ur initial comment seemed hasty as uve agreed
No beef

It is not an exaggeration


I have attended winners and rccg and most of the teachings center on seed, offering, building, tithe etc bla bla bla after the token alter call

idnoble135: You are entitled to your opinion.
The church i attend do not preach money every sunday. For God's sake, why will a church preach money every sunday? I believe this your exaggeration is way out of it.
Besides, what i've posted there is on a neutral ground. But you seem to be so caught up in the money issue to see the whole post in its true light. That says alot.
There is no need trying to convince you. I'm not even attempting it. But that post up there, is for any man who open and spiritual.
God is your strength.

superb exposition

theoctopus: 1. I have never criticized givings. I have said clearly, there is no instruction for the new testament believer to tithe. Tithing is not for the new testament. Giving was not only instructed, the practice by the apostles was clearly mentioned.

2. There are two basic principles for establishing any doctrine in the new testament. It is either there is a clear instruction to do it or we see a mention that the apostles and disciples practiced it. Neither of these apply to tithing. It was never instructed and there is no mention of its practice by the apostles. But we saw mentions of how the apostles practiced fasting. Howbeit, fasting is not a compulsory action for a believer, but important in building and developing your spiritual life

There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving. You can even decide to give all your earnings. That is your prerogative. Some of the disciples sold their lands in the book of acts and brought the money to the apostles feet. But they were never cajoled or coaxed. It was completely of their free will. That is why Peter told Ananias's wife "was it not in your power to give or not to give?". In other words, did any body force you?

2 Corinthians 9:6-7 (New Living Translation)

6 Remember this—a farmer who plants only a few seeds will get a small crop. But the one who plants generously will get a generous crop. 7 You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don’t give reluctantly or in response to pressure. “For God loves a person who gives cheerfully.”[a]


2 Corinthians 9:6-7

English Standard Version (ESV)

6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[a] will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

2 Corinthians 9:6-7

King James Version (KJV)

6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Are you not referring to the same God that owns the cattle of a thousand hills

Our righteousness to Him is filthy rags

theoctopus: Giving was never supposed to be a scheme to get something from God. That would completely negate the message of grace. There are three parts to giving.

1. One is the principle of seed time and harvest. This is a universal law from God. If you sow anything/seed, it will produce.

2. Giving is also an act of worship to God in appreciation for who is is or what he has done for you.

3. Giving is God's method for providing for the needy

It was never meant as a demand from God before he can bless you. He told the Jews,

Psalms 50:7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I am God, even thy God.

Psalms 50:8 I will not reprove thee for thy sacrifices or thy burnt offerings, to have been continually before me.

Psalms 50:9 I will take no bullock out of thy house, nor he goats out of thy folds.

Psalms 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.

Psalms 50:11 I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.

Psalms 50:12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.

Psalms 50:13 Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats?

Psalms 50:14 Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High:

Psalms 50:15 And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

A man who goes around bragging about what he has giving to God is ignorant and doesn't know God

2sexy.. I thought you said earlier she was only good for her virginity

This post now is more like the guy I know

Nice one

I don't get.. I thought the shinobi died from the sucking of the god tree


Shika is back.. Talking to his dad like the white fang

Naruto is getting boring

Nairaland info..

I watch the anime and still can't the hawk

The latest is the meetup of the itachi brodas

Also how is the one in minato the wicked one

I don't think anyone is judging vure..


But calling the man an abuser because she wants to be on her own could be misleading

This is a safe haven and people have been welcomed


We can only work with the info we have

If she does not love d man; that is different



[quote author=Omo_Alata]After the last few posts, I can see why some women in Vure position maybe too scare to talk, cos of fear of being judged and dissected.[/quote]

Exactly the same reason why martin luther broke out from the catholic church


People using money to buy salvation

People don't even read the bible anymore - my pastor says etc bla bla bla

theoctopus: Tithe started as land tax. Please go back and study very well. So if you want to go that path, then you should give tithe to the government. Actually, we do give tithe to the government in form of our tax. It was a practice that existed right after the flood. If you read the Jewish Torah, you will understand its origins. God instituted it in the law so the levites and others who didnt have should not be deprived. That is why tithing was for you, the widows, orphans, strangers as well as the levites. Read Deut 12 to 14. The purpose of tithe was to provide for the needy. The levites were included because they didnt have any inheritance. Tithes are not for those who have. It is not a means to enrich pastors or church leaders. Even if you are to give the tithe today, you will have to give it to the benevolence department for distribution to those who dont have. The present day preaching of tithe is totally self serving. That is why they have cooked up a "man of God" doctrine to put the people under bondage. They have taking the church back to the time of the catholic oppression where priests acted as mediators between God and men. They say when you give to a man of God, you get a reward. In fact, I heard them preach once, that different givings attracted different levels of reward and returns. Guess which kind of giving had the highest reward? Your guess is as good as mine! It is the giving to the "man of God".

This whole heresy and doctrines of devils started a long time ago. The whole false doctrine is founded on one supposedly innocent but terrible falsehood: that the man of God is a priest! So he acts as a mediator between the people and God, just like the old testament. Everything goes through him. They even preach now that their destinies are tied to their man of God, thus negating their own salvation through Christ. Paul's calls it another gospel! But you know why the "men of God" can succeed? Because the people have itching ears. They want to hear a lie. They have refused to believe the truth so God sent them a delusion.

False prophets are God's judgement to those who have refused to believe the truth and seek the benefits of God without the ways of God! They want what God gives but reject who God is!

kimco: Why does minato have a kyuubi mode. That'smy argument.

And if u can answer this too, why did sasuke have a hawk summon and then a snake summon again?

hmm... on the minato one... i cant be explicit but it may have to do with the yin-yang chakra natures

One side is aggressive, the other may be docile

Naruto may have had the short stick... i observed the one in minato is much nicer


On sasuke, pls where did sasgay summon hawks...

Im not sure ive seen it

..

my own is that i dont even know the crux of the argument

Can some one moderate this discussions


where is kaszekage

Thanks for your observation also


its important we are clear on twhat is a character issue viz-a-viz anger or one which will lead to abuse

Not clarifying this can lead to conflict avoidance in the name of not being called abusive


The lady may not want the relationship anymore or maybe she wants to be herself for a while and grow a little more (which is alrigt as 21 is pretty young)

The realities of our economic situation in naija make it what it is...... some people are really poor and cant even cater for one child and there is no safety net in nigeria which led to Unorthodox forms of assistance like help, helping your 'fiance' through school.

Nashville: Bros, I think you have asked the real question. I am not sure I see abuse here or too many red flags. I just think Vure does not want to marry this man but she feels indebted to him. The man may have obvious character flaws but may or may not be an abuser. Sending a driver to take you everywhere is not a bad thing. Getting angry when you hang out with your friends is a red flag and him yelling at you is another one. You keep saying you are scared of him, but you havent said what you are scared of. I think you are scared of telling him you dont love him and what he might do after that. May be I should ask "do you love this man?". If no then dont marry him.

The way I read this just suggest to me Vure does not really love this man and would rather not marry him. Vure the answer is simple, find a way to tell him quickly so that he knows where he stands. Let you mother be with you and also get some mens around you if possible (in case he gets violent). Try get a doctor close by in case he suffers a heart attack. But, I am not sure if this one is abuse o!

i like the way theoctopus is bringing sound critique on this matter

Seems this tithe schism will never be crossed