₦airaland Forum

Why did they cover his grave with mat? Is a Muslim thing?

Thought the normal thing was to cementbthe grave.

Chris525:
The cults did go after a few but a lot of people renounced. They couldnt possibly kill everyone of them.

Also the ones who had renounced were providing info to the school/police on the others who didnt.

Not really true.

In places like SS.....u can't totally renounce and still be living in that area.

If u are going renounce.....make sure u are moving to another location.....and try as much as possible to keep a low profile.

Places such as Benin and PH......is a crazy place to renounce cultism and still be living there.

swankyshank:
He didn’t say people couldn’t be forcefully or deceptively initiated... his reference is particularly on the possibility or otherwise of the victim to now carry on without finding a way out.

To the extent of ‘playing the runs’ fully.

Personally, I doubt that claim too.

Ok....do what u believe in.

This is saynotocultism story.

Passionate888:
Then it's a wrong info, they 'nbm' uses his name because he fought against oppression of South Africans by the whites which is what 'nbm' claims to also do (fighting against oppression and for the black race)

Ok.

Passionate888:
Wrong rumours, did you mean Arch. Bishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa?

Yeah....same one.

johnonuh:
how do they usually raise this morning used in making up the peace talk

Members pay dues(either annually or monthly)...... donations from members.

And some of them av strong political figures that are there members.

Rumours av it that rotimi ameachi and nyesom wike are members of norsemen.

Also another rumour.....that Desmond Tutu and obiano and Tony one week are members of NBM.

Also another rumour....that the Alake of egba land is a member of PC.

Also another rumour......that Zubby Micheal, Diamond okechi, mcsmith ochendo, are of NBM.

Also another rumour.....that mc oluomo is a member of SEC.

Also another rumour.....that davido, naira Marley, zlantan are members of NBM.

And in the present day Nigerian....these confraternities are used to rig elections. Money paid to the people that help in the rigging of the election are shared between them and the confraternity....a particular percent goes to the confraternity.

subcbouy:
Is Katanga a HT? Because there is a hall named Indy and residents are called Katangite. If one mentions this now na apako.

Yeah......Abia state university.

subcbouy:
Reading this makes me shake my head for the dead and his family. Who will collect the money and how would the money be shared? It ends up being scamed peace talk wahala dey their head.

Lol.....every thing goes to the confraternity.

And the higher the rank of the men they lost......the higher the amount of money they will collect.

Kingfish542:
don't try, be sure of what u are saying, this is an important piece of the puzzle

Lol.....av never been present in a peace talk....I got my experience through reading mafia books.

Casan0va:
I believe I'm speaking for majority of people here:

Please, how is peace talks held?

Has there been an instance where one group called for peace talk but had it in mind to ambush and kill their rivals?

How is peace talk called? How do they know its genuine and not a set up?

Op said they use cash to settle for the dead, can anybody elaborate?

Lemme try to answer.

I think they call the peace talk sit down....they call their top members.... mostly concerning top 3 members of the clashing confraternities.

Sometimes they agree that weapons won't be brought to the peace talk.....in order to avoid clash.

Peace talks are mostly held in neutral location....with men of the clashing confraternities stationing themselves as body guards around the location.

Then they count the scores......the side that lost more members demand more money from the other side..... sometimes the government or government officials are included in the peace....and sometimes these government officials also contribute financially.

The amount of money to be demanded depends mostly on the financial power of the confraternity.

NBM and Vikings are believe to be rich confraternities.....so smaller confraternities like maphites may use that opportunity to get money from them.

For example....if Vikings and maphites clash.....and the score is 10:6......maphites may want to collect 10M for the lost lives.... Vikings feeling they lost more member than maphites....tries to price it down to 3M....and the pricing goes that way until they finally settle on a final price.

The peace talk ends with an hand shake.....and both side agree to keep peace between them.

Of course.....the peace doesn't always last.

Passionate888:
Most Uniport kegite members are low key Vikings.

True.....alpha marine dominate uniport....and mostly phc in general.

aoshea18:
I thought i was the only one that found that story unbelievable. I was a student pastor. I lived in a compound with so many different cult groups off-campus. It was predominantly Vikings in there though. Bike men would refuse to drop you off in front of the compound because they would be robbed and sometimes their bike seized. Gunshots in front of the compound every night to create "awareness". There was a day Sars and the school security surrounded the compound and the CSO said everyone in the compound was a cultist. It was that bad. But in that compound I knew everyone of them, I had spoken to everyone of them about Christ. I would wake up 5am every morning and start praying in tongues in my room.5am to 6am. Some complained stylishly but nobody came boldly to ask me anything. I had all their names pasted on my wall. I would call their names one by one and commit them into God's hands. Some died but one particularly notorious became a pastor in one African country. In fact, I still liked the pictures of him and his wife on Facebook today. They liked to smoke weed in the compound. They NEVER smoked at my balcony. I've heard them tell people that come from outside to NOT sit in front of my balcony or smoke. I was very tiny. Right now I'm only 5 ft 5 and I weigh less than 60kg so I was very diminutive. This was 2004-2006. I remember they'd have those their parties where they only turn on one bulb at the entrance and everywhere else would be in darkness. I know how many times girls from the parties would come and knock my door and ask to sleep in my room overnight. In fact one girl that eventually married one Nigerian footballer was among them. That was how I met her. Once or twice some of the boys would come and knock and ask if the girls are in my room, I'd tell them they're sleeping already and they'd leave. I counselled a lot of them. There was this one I told the story earlier...the one that was having shaking violently as I led him to Christ...he was axe but would always come to that Viking dominated compound to see me. They let him be even when they where having issues because he was coming to see me. I remember the ONLY time I got assaulted. It was a Thursday evening and I was coming back from prayers with three other girls that where in the prayers. We walked past this notorious bar about 500m from my off-campus apartment. Some two guys from the bar carried me from the road. Lifted me up and took me to a corner in the bar and started slapping me and going through my pockets. One took out my phone and was walking away with it. Then I heard a shout, one of their ranking members I guess shouted they should stop and came towards us. He said "ah pastor, did they take anything from you?"...I told him "that other guy has my phone" he collected it back and asked if anything else..."I checked and said they took N250"...he said please leave it for them. I said ok. Funny thing about this was that I didn't recognize the ranking guy that was helping me. I didn't see him again after that day but I never got harassed again. Do you know how many people came to our student fellowship then to confess they've been forcefully initiated and needed help. In fact a lot of members when they want to be reformed would come to us. We where respected and we had clout. I stayed in that compound from year 1 to final year. There are a million experiences I had. The light shines on in darkness and the darkness can NEVER overcome it. We where not timid Christians. We worked the word. So for someone to come here and say they forcefully initiated a born again Christian who came to preach is and would always be Mischevious and highly Unlikely. God bless you all and ofcourse SAYNOTOCULTISM and Say an equivocal YES to Jesus.

I don't doubt his story....I believe people get forcefully initiated whether they are religious or not.

One thing is being a cultist.....another thing is personality of the cultist.

Not everyone get an opportunity to meet mild and tolerant cultist.....just because they were tolerant of u..... doesn't mean every other cultist would av been tolerant.

I feel the whole world is going to move on and leave Lagos behind.

Kingfish542:
is kegites a cult group?

Not really......but most of them are affiliated with one cult or another.

So if u are joining.... don't expect to be neutral as most of them are members of a cult group and will be planning on recuiting u.

OBelz:
You don't know me and should not just conclude. I have been there, seen & done it. I haven't even revealed the useless group and have gotten threat's.

I don't think he was concluding on anything.....he was only clarifying some things which u got wrong.

KAHBOOM:
All the cult groups that started street initiation should be blamed.
Back in the days u will hardly identify a cultist in the street becos it was secret,and when u finally identify one,they must be a student, sharp and very secretive.

But now if u see a cultist it either they are small children,dirty mechanics,welders, agberos,vulcanizers and co.If they have little misunderstanding with anyone they will start shouting I be dis, I be DAT.

Lol.....u forgot bus conductors.

Shots fired

How is Imo state a Nigerian Delta State?

Macro231101:
let me tell u something.... Not all schools frat fight with guns and the rest...in most cases they just use the police to arrest the opposition. At least in my school all through my years in school never for once did any frat members lose there lives or was disfigured... Its all about your mindset....na those street frat they fight wella with guns and d rest to count scores and some renowned university..

A private Universit.........Am I right?

I never liked bb phones......so bbm never freaked me.

Even when android had bbm......I stubbornly refused to download it.

Lol.....I remember the days when give me ur bb pin was the thing.

Probably u added too much water when blending the bean.

The beans need to be blended thick.

bolaji3071:
I pray for divine healing for you sir. Your healing shall remain permanent. That health issue shall be gone from this moment! Amen.

Amen.......and I am a girl.

I av a health issue that has gulped so much money and is still gulping money. I am tired of aving surgeries.

I pray God sees me through.

So op.....u are not the only one.

Dooj:
That's my husband Nairaland username.
Am just tired of defending all the names am been called here.
Anybody who is touched by Spirit to help me, I will appreciate.
The bank account details I drop here are from a male too?
My Facebook username name, my bank account details and all my Identity cards bear same name.
My only crime here is that my account is new.
What else should I say?

So ur husband is a nairalander......and u guys av decided to take online begging as a full time job?

I am sure ur husband must av told u how he got help numerous times through give aways......and told u to come and open a new account with ur sob stories.....and u will get all the help u need.

One thing I hate about poor people......they give birth to children they can't cater for...... telling themselves God will take care of them.

The height of it is u even feel entitled because u allowed verification.......both u are ur husband are scammers deceiving people with ur sob stories.

Lagos ooooo.

Yes....... I think so.

Dooj:
I understand your point, but the truth is am not a scammer and my pleading is very very genuine.
If my situation wasn't very bad, I won't be here receiving all insults and name calling.
Despite the fact that my account is a new one, I believe God will send me a helper here.

There's a screenshot up there with ur phone number begging for airtime.....with a male profile.....y did u ignore it? Y can't u defend it?

So the account of the person that confirmed she's real registered on April 25th.......how are we so sure they are not accomplice?

And besides..... Is Benue state on lock down?