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9icetoo:
Nice video and description. Very well done indeed.

Mrcoolautofix, come and see how it's done.

No name calling, no slander, no funny accents, no insult to the motherland or fellow technicians.

Thanks boss for the compliment!

Will prefer we don't shake the table of the 2nd part of your comment. You know it can derail thread and cause world war, right?

9icetoo:
There is no "reputable" fuel station.

Hear me out.

1. They all get PMS from the same source (NNPC or the few oligarchs who import low octane ethanol and methanol batched PMS)
2. They do not have filters installed between their tanks and their pumps (which should be a standard but in Nigeria the regulatory bodies don't give a ...)
3. They do not wash their tanks. Never.
4. None of these retail outlets bothers to conduct tests on the PMS supplied to them so they don't even know the quality of the product being sold to you.

Old stock will cause hard starts like you experienced.

PMS blended with high quantities of naphtha will also cause that. Na local refinery dey always supply this one.

I was planning to get a fuel octane tester at one point. Just for fun. But its not cheap. Will see!

sooperrescue:
Interesting thread. Does Honda uses premium unleaded fuel. I have seen on the 2010 Accord that premium fuel is required. Is it now a standard feature? I will suggest that you try this product on a 2007 Camry which does not require premium fuel and let's see the outcome of our fuel on the car.

Honda calls for regular unleaded petrol in the 9th Gen. 2013 - 2017. Was the 2007 for the US market?

nnamokenna:
Nice work you are doing as usual Piyke. Keep it up! Do they (Amazon) send directly to you or you use a shipper? Sadly, my shippers have stopped shipping flammable/combustible items through air so I now use ocean freight for those.

I use Seafoam products (SS-14 and HM-16 or SS-16) for my cars. They are very good products. I want to try STP Complete Fuel System Cleaner and Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer now and see how they are.

You are spot on for the bolded. It's a pain getting these flammable things in. I used ocean as well. In fact, it was one of the things I got in the container that shipped the car.

Haven't used Seafoam before, but lots of videos to suggest it works.

Thanks for the compliment!

Treadway:
Pound for pound, Honda's are more durable, better engineered, and have far better engines compared to Toyota. The only problem is the double wishbone, which only affects certain years and specific models, just like some specific toyota engines also drink oil and form sludge hopelessly. Honda any day, anytime. If you don't believe me, ask Piyke.

I agree with you on this. Honda is actually the largest manufacturer of combustion engines on the planet; from generator, boat, car, lawnmower, to aircraft engines, etc. They definitely know a thing or two about engines.

I have also observed that Toyota seem to have a higher proportion of smoking engines on the road compared to Honda.

adubam:
Where can I get it?

I got mine from Amazon: link is in the video description. If you are in Abuja, I recall seeing a variant of this at Sahad stores in Central Area (the version of gumout for high mileage cars).

olenyi:
Finally.

What an expose. Nice video and clear explanation. The Gumout really did it's job as advertised.

Now I understand why it took you so long. Three full tanks. Good job.

My warm regards.

Thanks boss!

Kirkman:
In summary Gumout did it's job as stated. The before and after pics was as clear as the difference between night and day.

Yes it did. I will do this again with Liqui Moly...

aieromon:
Great video as always.

You talked about switching to a more reputable fuel outlet. Did you record an improvement in engine performance with this change?

Thanks for the compliment!
On switching gas station, you know now, it takes some time to know if the fuel is better, plus I've been driving spirited lately, so not quite ideal to compare mpg. One thing I can say though, I have often noticed that if I get low quality fuel, my generator with remote start will take 2 cranks to start. There's a NIPCO station that I used to get fuel from. Once I buy fuel from there, the gen will always start on second attempt compared to when I get from this other station. That said, I've noticed that occasionally, even the so called "good" station can get bad stock.

Finally, the video is ready.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRP0thS-xCA

In all, pretty pleased as it even addressed the engine knock I was having!
cc" aieromon

Calling my tormentors that cracked me up with their funny posts. E don dey!

olenyi
Kirkman

Hope you now see why it took long

olenyi:
Oga Pike the full tank never finish ni? Abi the car fuel consumption don turn to Keke nape own? .; D. Abeg no ves, come update us Biko.

Warm regards.

Kirkman:
I tire o! My brother, I don wait for oga Piyke to come and humbly update this thread. Abi he has abandoned ship. and cut his losses.

You guys just cracked me up! .

Final observation was today and I have started editing the video! Not yet sure how long it will take, but when it airs, you will understand why the video took longer than planned. A lot goes into making YouTube videos o: planning, scripting, shooting, re-shooting , editing and so on. Been a bit off Nairaland too, but it's good to be back

No retreat no surrender on this thread

aAK1:
nice . Baba do you still have your ac vacuum pump

Yep.

quam9997:
Oh okay .. so those agents can help you confirm it. Which means one need to have access to someone like that. Please do you know any cos I’m about to inspect a 2016 Honda Civic possibly this weekend and btw seems you know a lot about Honda cars please what do you think of the 2016 model of the Honda Civic. I’ll await your reply sir

Much thanks

PM for the contact.
On the Civic, in principle, I generally tend to avoid the year a new model is launched. There's usually some new tech with its attendant issues, recalls etc., which the manufacturer finally gets right in later years. The 2016 Civic is the launch year for the 10th generation. See link below. Has more problems compared to the other years of the 10th gen. Doesn't mean one can't buy it, just so you know what you could face. https://m.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/

quam9997:
Sorry how do you know if a custom duty is authentic

There are some agents that help retrieve the custom duty for cars. Pulls directly from the Customs database.

9icetoo:
75k high mileage?

Ha. Those of us wey dey 190k nko?

Like my 03 Accord too. 266k miles. Old High mileage

davessales039:
Ehhhn. ...... No.

High mileage should be from 100k na?

Lol. Depends. People use different figures. I prefer to use 75k since that's when high mileage oil is recommended by some.

kingreign:
Eventually, it did join the graceful club

Lol

This car joined the High mileage club today

Kirkman:
Oga Piyke what's the status update when the GUMOUT fuel treatment and ethanol was used?

In progress . Will certainly update soon...

jidobaba:
There should be an elimination process to include checking a foreign used vehicle with the same borescope. Our fuel is most terrible no doubt, but all organic compounds( including ethanol) reduce to carbon upon full combustion.

Low octane fuel, impurities, high compression ratio (as a result of deposits), should upset the tight air-fuel ratio for combustion. In essence, there may not be enough of fuel/air (or the perfect ratio of the same) to reduce the organic matter to carbon... My take.

aieromon:
Please let us know when the YouTube video is ready.

Sure. I'll update here.

aAK1:
I also think you should combine your effort with Italian tuning.

That's the spirit. Have been driving the car like it's stolen! Should give the best chance of cleaning.

aAK1:
Unfortunately this additives only have little effect

That's the reason why I'm doing the test. Will use different brands of additive if the gumout doesn't work. I should say idling is feeling smoother. I'm nearing 3/4 tank, but the second inspection will tell the real story.

Conner44:
Vehicles with GDI engines would be taking the worst hit from our 9ja fuels allegedly imported from 'outer space'

I agree

aieromon:
I remember your experiment on the generator.

Use fuel as is from reputable outlets or switch to EV oh.

1. Which outlet na?
2. You want to use gen to charge the EV?

oweniwe:
Maybe it's those high ethanol fuel they are selling like that to unsuspecting buyers

I think its beyond ethanol

boldx:
How much is the GUM OUT pls?

According to this link, $20 approx
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BM5XWU6/ref=olp-opf-redir?aod=1

boldx:
Following. Piyke, how are these deposits cleaned?

I have already started the process. The first image is the "before". I have added gumout all in one fuel system cleaner to the tank. Will take the "after" and compare. It will all come in a video on YouTube.

Pic of the gumout product below. Will see if it does anything

Piyke:
I also recall seeing this same whitish stuff when I inspected the cylinder of my power generator. Will post pics from that once I find them.

This is the top of the piston on a Thermocool petrol generator. Same non-carbon deposits

nurey:
Bring the car to me, let me rock it for 2years while trying to find out what the other impurities are

Behave

I also recall seeing this same whitish stuff when I inspected the cylinder of my power generator. Will post pics from that once I find them.

Piyke:
This is the top of one of the pistons. All piston tops look like this.

The black stuff in the center is the carbon we all know. Carbon is black in colour. Just Google "carbon build up on pistons" and see that the images from abroad are black buildup on the pistons.

I don't know what to call this whitish grey brown stuff. Me thinks they are impurities in our fuel. Any ideas?