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lomprico:
Isaac key! U dey read ur own bible backwards?

Funny....

phabuloz:
Even God told ISAAC to tell the king that SARAH is his sister,so sometimes,lies are needed to be lied

I don laugh here no be small...na typo error or what?..

We can clearly see that The two characters were strikingly similar. Now, u might think u could argue one or two of those points, or u might say that a couple of them are too general in nature to prove anything, but nobody can tell me that those lists are not extremely similar to each other. They are similar to the point that they show the two stories had to have been "divinely "correlated. There is no way that this could be an accident!

Again, looking at these two stories carefully u can see the divine fingerprints everywhere u look. I hope that this one major example of fulfilled prophecy will give you one more reason to accept that Muhammad did not in anyway fits in the similarities. ...think of it.

true2god:
The topic said 'islam is God almighty original religion to all of mankind'. Which one is the original islam, the sunnis or the shia? Because both shia and sunni cannot be original. Is it ahmadiya?

Which one be Shia and Sunni again na? Na two type of Islam dey?

Weah96:
Why would a know-it-all God give religion or anything to man when he already knows the future decisions of each man? Does it make sense to you? The God would have created a hellfire next to the human manufacturing company so that he could immediately dispose of humans right after making them. It doesn't make sense to prolong an inevitable outcome. You know the man is destined for the roasting chambers, and yet you give him the Quran. Does the Quran produce ice water? Hahaha

Whats the importance of his visites to all the other countries he had visited? He is not able to defend the word of God as it is stated in the bible. He cant rebuke the evil in the church. How can he make a difference in Nigeria . He not Jesus. Just a star or small god to some folks out there.

Empiree:
Proof what?

That Muhammad (SBUP) was right?

Demmzy15:
What else do you want?! If he brings proves from the bible now, parisbookaddict would be opening her brown teeth that the Prophet Muhammad(sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) copied from bible, now we move away from the bible you still complain. The points my bro stated are very clear, I seriously don't know your problem. Looks like there's nothing that can satisfy you, bunch of desperate dullards!

Mohammed (SBUH) said....
“Those who came before you took the graves of their Prophets and righteous people as places of worship. Do not take graves as places of worship – I forbid you to do that.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 532, from Jundab ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali).


Where did he got that info from?

madjnr:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old
Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf
chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the
unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned
in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
1.
MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE
BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of
Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among
their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put
my words in his mouth; and he shall speak
unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers
to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was
like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew,
as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses
(pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was
also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this
prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets
of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah,
Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the
Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as
well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who
is like Moses (pbuh):
i)
Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus
(pbuh) was born miraculously without any
male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-
Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii)
Both were married and had children. Jesus
(pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry
nor had children.
iii)
Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has
been raised up alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren
of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of
Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail
and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the
descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews
are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and
whatever revelations he received from
Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among
their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my
words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv)
Both besides being Prophets were also kings
i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus
(pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this
world." (John 18:36).
v)
Both were accepted as Prophets by their
people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was
rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He
came unto his own, but his own received him
not."
iv)
Both brought new laws and new regulations
for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to
the Bible did not bring any new laws.
(Mathew 5:17-18)
.
2.
It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever
will not harken unto my words which he shall
speak in my name, I will require it of him."
3.
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book
of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter
29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and
he saith, I am not learned."
[size=16pt]When Archangel Gabrail [/size]commanded
Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read",
he replied, "I am not learned"
.
4.
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name
in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by
name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse
16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim
Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is
altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this
is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for
respect. Similarely im is added after the name
of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English
translation they have even translated the
name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as
"altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament
in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) is yet present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New
Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said,
'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of
Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law
(which came) before me and giving glad
tidings of a messenger to come after me,
whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he
came to them with clear signs, they said,
'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old
Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh)
besides applying to the Jews also hold good
for the Christians.
1.
John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give
you another Comforter, that he may abide
with you forever."
2.
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I
will send unto you from the Father, even the
Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of
me."
3.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is
expedient for you that I go away: for if I
go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send
him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one
who praises" or "the praised one" is almost
the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos . In the Gospel of John
14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter'
is used in the English translation for the
Greek word Paracletos which means advocate
or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for
Periclytos . Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised
Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet
(pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter
mentioned in these prophecies refers to the
Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if
Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come.
The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth
before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh),
in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when
Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence
this prophecy refers to none other than
Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you,
but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when
he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he
shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he
shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you things to come. He shall glorify
me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this
prophecy referes to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken
from the King James Version.
Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/
comparativereligion/index.htm

Where did you get Archangel Gabriel from the bible?
Archangel is only mentioned twice in the Bible and only one angel is specifically called an Archangel, Michael.

Did it happened by accident? Lets expose the devil again.

Moses – The first mediator Jesus – The final mediator

Moses was born as a Hebrew Jesus was born as a Hebrew
Moses was chosen by God to be a leader Jesus was chosen by God to be a leader
Moses was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Pharaoh) Jesus was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Herod)
Moses hid in Egypt as a child. Jesus hid in Egypt as a child. The leader of the land that Moses was born into tried to kill all of the babies when he was born. The leader of the land that Jesus was born into tried to kill all of the babies when He was born.
Moses turned water into blood.Jesus turned water into wine. Moses died on a hill.Jesus died on a hill. Moses fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain Jesus fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain.
Moses told people about the need for a Passover lamb. Jesus became the Passover lamb.
Moses communicated directly with God Jesus communicated directly with God
Moses performed miracles Jesus performed miracles
Moses was a law giver – gave the ten commandments. Jesus was a law giver – gave the great commandment.
Moses was hated by the ruling party (Egyptians) Jesus was hated by the ruling party (Pharisees)
Moses had brothers and sisters who misunderstood him. Jesus had brothers and sisters who misunderstood him. Moses chose 12 leaders to follow. Jesus chose 12 leaders to follow.
Moses gave his people a new identity as a people. Jesus gave his people a new identity as a people.
Moses had followers who strayed from his teachings. Jesus had followers who strayed from his teachings. Moses is arguably the lead figure of the Old Testament. Jesus is the lead figure of the New Testament. Moses taught his followers how to pray. Jesus taught his followers how to pray.
Moses chose people to carry on when he was leaving. Jesus chose people to carry on when he was leaving. Moses led his people to the promised land. Jesus leads his people to the promised land.
Moses sent 12 spies to Canaan so he could bring people to the promised land. Jesus sent 12 disciples to the world so he could bring people to the promised land.
Moses appointed 70 rulers over Israel. Jesus appointed 70 disciples to the nations.
The people picked up stones to stone Moses but they did not succeed. The people picked up stones to stone Jesus, but they did not succeed.
Moses controlled the waters of the Red Sea Jesus controlled the Sea of Galilee
Moses brought living water out of the Rock. Jesus brings living water to all of his believers.
The face of Moses shown with glory on Mount Sinai. The face of Jesus shown with glory on the mount of Transfiguration.
Moses lifted the brazen serpent up in the wilderness to heal people. Jesus was lifted up on the cross to heal us from our own sins.
Moses was a shepherd. Jesus was the good shepherd
Moses subdued an attacking army by raising his arms high on the top of a hill. (with two other people) Jesus subdued sin and death with arms raised high on a hill. (with two other people)
Moses said another prophet would come (Jesus) Jesus said the conforter would come (Holy Spirit).
Moses fed thousands supernaturally with bread. Jesus fed thousands supernaturally with bread and fish. Moses took a gentile bride Jesus took a gentile bride (the church)
Moses led the Israelites in a victory song after the victory in Egypt. This song will be repeated at the end as a victory song for Jesus. (see Rev. 15:2-3O)
There is a long period of silence in the story of Moses from the time he was a child until adulthood. There is a long period of silence in the story of Jesus from the time he was a child until adulthood.
Moses showed compassion to a woman getting water at a well. Jesus showed compassion to a woman getting water at a well. Moses was loved and supported by his sister Miriam (which is Miryam in Hebrew) Jesus was loved and supported in his ministry by His mother Mary (which is also Miryam in Hebrew) Moses gave God’s law on a mountain.Jesus gave the new law from the Mount of the Beatitudes. (sermon on the mount.)
Moses offered his life for the salvation of his people after the sin of the golden calf. Jesus offered His life for the salvation of the world.
Moses rejected a lavish, ruling lifestyle in the house of the Pharaoh. Instead, he chose a humble life. Jesus rejected the offers of Satan to be the ruler of this world and instead chose a humble life.
Moses washed Aaron and his sons with water. Jesus washed the feet of his disciples. Moses died a natural death. Jesus died a natural death. Moses body was taken to heaven. Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to heaven. ALL this is biblically supported.

Continue.....

It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever
will not harken unto my words which he shall
speak in my name, I will require it of him."
3.
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book
of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter
29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and
he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded
Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read",
he replied, "I am not learned"

Were you there when angel Gabriel came? Who was the witness between muhammed (SBUP) stress be upon him or (TBUP) trouble be upon him and the Angel?

Pyrrho:
You irritate me.

Why don't you just reflect on the things associated with Islam?

Why do you not wish for a better world?

Why do you enjoy the killings?

Why do you pretend not to see?

Why are you wicked?

Why is your religion full of hate?

Is it not better to pray for those being killed in the name of your religion?

Are you humane at all?

You are a wicked soul, someone as wicked as your prophet.

1000 likes from me. Human being is like chicken to true Muslims. Despite all the evidence in the air, they harden thier hearts and try to persuade people to join their blood socking cult called Islam SMH. BLack people are really easy to brainwashed. And once they are brainwashed. Its hard for them to turn back despite evidence.

madjnr:
You're diverting from the topic of the thread... How's sunni and shia war related to the topic here

Answer joor....

Empiree:
Maybe you need to re-read my post. Anyways, here is the hadith again and its meaning:

Aisha and Abdullah bin Abbas (Radhiyallahu Anhum) narrated that when the last moment of the life of Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) came he started putting his Khasmisa on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets.” (The narrators says) Rasulullah was warning (the Muslims) of what those (Jews and Christians) had done.


Meaning of the hadith:

The word La’nat means to be far from the mercy of Allah. The Muhaditheen explain that the reason why Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) said this was that the time for Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) to leave this world was close at hand and he did not desire that his Ummah imitate the Jews and Christian by making his grave also into a place of worship. The reason why he disliked the grave becoming a place of worship is that sooner or later people start worshipping the grave itself. The whole mission of Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) was to eliminate Shirk and turn people towards the oneness of Allah. How could he have approved that his grave becomes a means for people to do shirk? Therefore such stern words were used so that people refrain from coming close to Shirk. In another Hadith it comes:

Abu Hurairah narrates that Nabi (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) supplicated, “O Allah, do not make my grave into an idol. Allah’s curse be upon that nation who mad the graves of their Prophets into a place of worship. (Musnad Imam Ahmed)

And there are many numerous ahadith that report this:

He (PBUH) also said: “When a righteous man died among them, they would build a place of worship over his grave and put those images in it. They are the most evil of mankind before Allaah.” (Al-Bukhaari, 427; Muslim, 528)

He(PBUH) said: “Those who came before you took the graves of their Prophets and righteous people as places of worship. Do not take graves as places of worship – I forbid you to do that.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 532, from Jundab ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali).

As for historical Jews and Christians whom the prophet(SAW) referred to could not have meant all Jews and all Christians. Most likely extremists amongst them at the time and it was obvious. For Muhammad(SAW) to utter such statement and warned us not to imitate Jews and Christians, as far as i am concern it means worshiping graves by Jews and Christians was prevalent at that time.

Below article, question posed at a Jew. Historical account of Jewish worship via the graves of saints and Prophets

Question:
Are there any examples in the Jewish history of Jewish people falling into worshiping the dead saints and prophets in their tombs ?

Also, does building Tomb and concrete structures over the graves of prophets and saints open a door to idol worship, Shituf, or Avodah Zarah? Have past or current Jewish people have fallen into this trap?

There is a pointer to this fact in many Muslim narratives like this one:

"Beware of those who preceded you(Jews and Christians) and used to take the graves of their prophets and righteous men as places of worship, but you must not take graves as mosques; I forbid you to do that." [Sahih Muslim 1:1083]

Answer:
Jews often pray at the graves of righteous people. One popular site, for example, is Me'aras HaMachpelah, the biblical grave of many of the forefathers. It seems that Muslims also pray there, though perhaps don't use the place as a mosque.

However, praying to a person is absolutely forbidden as much as idolatry. If there are any historical accounts of a Jew doing so, they are of a transgressor. The Kitzur Shulchan Aruch (128:13) makes this clear:
http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/26114/historical-account-of-jewish-worship-via-the-graves-of-saints-and-prophets

Wast of time. Bring proof from the bible. Example, You accused me of stealing your tv. To prove this you should find your tv in my hand/house. If u cannot find it with me then. You lied against me. As simple as ABC.

Empiree:
Including filthy places?


Who is Jesus? God or human?

Stop dodging by changing diverting the thread. Muslims are cursed see proof in the air..

No doubt the curse is following them..

parisbookaddict:
I am not exaggerating, add the 717 confirmed dead and to the over 100 dead at the mosque crane incident and those that have succumbed to their injuries since then and round up, that's approaching almost 1000 people dead this haji alone.

It wasn't western countries killing muslims or crusaders. Its muslim dying in the hands of muslims all because of a pilgrimage concocted by a paedophile prophet.

Thats why i said. MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS =VERY BIG PROBLEM. ..
Muslims worship allah in his holy ground. A very big problem. ..

Annunaki:
We know who the real pig is

laughing @ put HAM in muHAMmed..

A Muslim friend argued that it was normal they died in the holy ground. That no one regrets dieing there.
I was stoned. .. because the coran itself says that it is a place of safety. Yet Satan lives there from ages to ages..

Ummm, OP ran to the bible for help...
Who is a false prophet? The bible tells us how to know them. Muhammad fits in. Since Muhammad has fulfilled several false prophets verses in the bible. Muhammad cant be sent by Christ.


Matthew 7:15-2015 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

What fruits did muhammed gave? Alquaida, isis, bokoharam, islamic talibans etc..there is no peace in different places in the world today. See islamis countries for example. Its always bomb and gun shot. Kids are exposed to violence. Is this a good fruit to you? How can you defend muhammed when the coran is so plain! See how muslims are suffering in a no mans land in the European borders. In a weather almost 5° degree cold. Women with babies Is this not the fruit of Muhammad that is putting these poor people in auch a condition? You are in ur warm bedroom or office typing to defend him why others are dying. See how brainwashed you people are. Saudi the Almighty holi sity of islam cannot even take responsibilities of Muslims at thier darkend. They are all running to the West for shelter. How good is this fruit of yours Islam...

madjnr:
... Your false claim was refuted

What did you refute??

Annunaki:
First of all prove to us that mohamed is a genuine prophet. Jesus in the bible told us that we can tell a genuine prophet by the fruits he exhibits and going by the fruits of armed robbery, rape, murder, paedophilia, adultery, incest and deceit mohamed portrayed the best I can conclude is that he was satan's prophet if indeed he was a prophet at all.

, i can only laugh ...when i see the truth...

true2god:
God bless you bro. The same Aisha that mid-wived the whole-sale slaughter of her 'husband's' grandchildren that created the current rift between the shia and sunni muslims? If mohammed, who killed thousands of Jews, christians and others who rejected his 'prophethood' (quran 9:5, quran 9:29), can be called a 'perfect man' by muslims, why wont Aisha (who supervised the killing of mohammed's grandchildren) be a saint.

Karma has a way of paying back. Muslims have a special way of reasoning.

Waoh, you re too on point. Where is Empire that always lie to defend. .

ifeness:
The christian god has been busy fighting primitive cave men all along but is scared of fully evolved human. If xtian god had all the time to brag about his big balls,why not come brag to us today and[b] let us capture and put him in a zoo were he belongs[/b].

Have you been able to put boko haram where they belong?

ifeness:
Why do Pastors and their flock of sheep ignore this verse?

Please don't say God works in mysterious ways

Do you go to church? How do you know they ignored it?

Psalm 137:8
Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us.

Are you a novice that you do not Know that the Babylonian were inhuman to the Jews ?The Babylonians having done the same to the Jewish children, and it was also foretold in Isaiah 13:16 that it will be done to theirs. It was done in the glory of divine justice. God is a God of justice. Babylon was such a generation of cruel creatures. They had the worst calamities of war they deserved.

dolphinheart:
But it was ur god that gave torah na, abi na another god write am and its not allah again?

Dont mind them, they claim all biblical prophets were Muslims... .
They are strolling around NL pumping lies to people here. They think they can go away spreading lies. Same lies the arabian forced in thier ancestors that made them embraced islam. Let Islam Falsehood be exposed. It is for the good of mankind.



Romans 16:17-18 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

Ephesians 5:11Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

osesology:
This one I'm seeing actually has the neck-bone attached to the head. Was that done before or after he was buried

Try cut off ur finger and glue it back instantly you will see it will attach again u will only obsarved the sore. Dont expect Goliath's family to bury him without his head.
Sure they might have joined the head to his body bufore putting him to the earth.

ProfessorPeter:
which prophet Moses ? Islamic prophet or Jewish prophet? Just imagined an old man sleeping with a girl of three years old. Will you give your daughter of three years old to somebody who is of the age of your great grandfather?

Moses is from’a Jewish parent. Not Arab..

johnydon22:


Now lets see this cheap defence..

Adulthood - the On set of puberty

Puberty averages 12-13 years.

Muhammad married Aisha at the age of 6

Consummated it at the age of 9

Even in all ramifications she was still a child. . . . Please is this not pedophilia?

Common bring more ...

The bitter truth hurts....

tartar9:
Aisha(RA) was about 12 when she started living with the Holy Prophet(SAW)

Keep contracting islam....lie is what muslims drink like water..

Annunaki:
No matter how much al taquiya Muslims deny it, isis and boko haram are practising pure islam.

And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do
Quoran 8:39

The OP contradict the coran. The true muslims are alquida , boko haram, isis etc etc.....they carry out the coranique verses to promote islam.

ifeness:
Desperate Christians.

Why do u always think tbere is Despiration in Christianity? Its a choice to be a christian. No brainwashing, no compulsion.