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truthman2012:
If you call it recycling, we will keep it up till the truth sinks into your system.

Lol. The xtian that can make me not answer any question on my faith is not born.

No offence, but I found those questions silly and repetitive. I have no patience for minds that need continuous repetition to grasp a point.

tartar9:
the pooaul whomsoever it was,that accursed thing who opened his rotten an*s to write or to rewrite those wretched Blashphemous pagan filth they call letters or epistles filled with all manner of stupidity.

tartar9:
they are following the footsteps from that accursed Fool paul(the curse of Allah(SA) forever remains upon him) they learn their deceits from the Beast!

babylolaroy:
this is very sick. could you please notice how the last sentence applies to you? What in the world is the problem with you people. nobody will see this victimization now o, its when muslims talk back that people begin the talk about violence. If you think we have a muslim god who is not a father...right.
if you think your religion is better..fine. stop with the Allah, Muhammad insult. you should know its biblically unethical. Muhammad has done you no wrong, neither have the muslims.

Anas09:
These muslims are really dafts. The truth is stearing u in the face yet u choose to believe a lie. Anyways. Like god like followers. Liars.

Ifeann:
Wow wow.. In ur bid to regurgitate what ur imam and those Islam propaganda sites tell u, u are contradicting Islamic allah and his Mohammed..

Listen I don't care what Mohammed (the fraud) says but I just have to remind you that the manuscripts dated back to Mohammeds time are the same ones that form the bible we use today. .

Mohammed in a bid to win christains And jews affirmed the torah and injeel..he even claimed Allah wrote the Torah and all those war verses
See the evidence below.. From hadiths and ur quran..

"Allah" claims to have written the Torah (which includes Genesis) with
his own hand as Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Adam and
Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are
our father who disappointed us and turned us out of Paradise.' Then
Adam said to him, 'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk (talked to
you directly) and HE WROTE (the Torah) for you with HIS OWN HAND.
Do you blame me for action which Allah had written in my fate forty
years before my creation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adam confuted
Moses," the Prophet added, repeating the Statement three times.
(Bukhari, 8.77.611)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as
saying: There was an argument between Adam and Moses. Moses said to
Adam: You are our father. You did us harm and caused us to get out of
Paradise. Adam said to him: You are Moses. Allah selected you (for
direct conversation with you) and WROTE with HIS OWN HAND the Book
(Torah) for you. Despite this you blame me for an act which Allah had
ordained for me forty years before He created me. Allah's Apostle
(may peace be upon him) said: This is how Adam came the better of
Moses and Adam came the better of Moses. (Muslim, 33.6409)
Abu Hurairah reported the Messenger of Allah (May peace be upon him)
as saying: Adam and Moses held a disputation. Moses said: Adam you
are our father. You deprived us and caused us to come out from
Paradise. Adam said: You are Moses Allah chose you for his speech and
WROTE the Torah for you WITH HIS HAND. Do you blame me for doing a
deed which Allah had decreed that I should do forty year before he
created me? So Adam got the better of Moses in argument. Ahmad b.
Salih said from 'Amr from Tawus who heard Abu Hurairah. (Abi Dawud,
41.4684)
It is hardly surprising then to read the following in Kitab al-Sunna,
which many Muslims believe to have been written by ‘Abduallah b.
Ahmad, the son of the famed Ahmad b. Hanbal, but which in any case
shows how at least some Muslims took teachings of this sort.
"Allah wrote the Torah for Moses with His hand while leaning back on a
rock, on tablets of pearl, and the screech of the quill could be heard.
There was no veil between Him and him," (Vol. 1, p. 294)
So, Allah writes two contradictory books: Qur'an and Bible? This is the
"father" Muslims want us to believe in! The Muslim god is not even a
father to Muslims as he claims to have no children, rather only slaves
(Muslims).


incase if u are one of those quranists who reject the hadith, here is
proof of your quran affirming the torah and injeel.

Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light (Surah
5:44a; 2:87).
And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps,
confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We
bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming
that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an
admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (Surah 5:46).
It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book,
confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses)
and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He
sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) (Surah
3:3).
If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask
those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath
indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then
wert thou of the losers (Surah 10:94-95; 16:43)

Trustworthiness:
[s]I think the problem of you Christians is high level of ignorance. That is why Jesus, according to you bible, says most of his people will perish because they are ignorant.

In Islam, bible is never referred to as the word of God but the Injil. The injil is the scripture revealed to Prophet Isa (Jesus christ) and not the bible. The word Bible is derived from the Greek word biblo, which means collection of books. While the injil, some translate it as Gospel.

That is why you will see in the beginning of the books that comprises the new Testament, "Gospel According to".

Note the word "According To". For instant, Gospel According to Mark.

In English language, the word "According to" means that what so and so says or believed in but not necessarily the person narrating it believed in it. So, the book "Gospel According to Mark,", that is part of the New Testament, is a book written by someone on what Mark believes or narrated of the teachings of Jesus. Such narration is not God's word. If you carefully, without any iota bigotry in you mind and head, study the Qur'an, you will understand the difference between the word of God and words of narration by men, which your bible represents.[/s]

malvisguy212:
Good afternoon, hope you are having good time?

Onuohasworld:
.. .....will give any of u my Int.passport to keep ..?will take it back when I deliver.....traveling and making money at the same time is part of learning.,have never Been to warri...everything is not about scamming..

johndwayy:
I'm in warri nw and i have a very close friend that works with globestar warri branch. I'll get in touch with him on ur behalf.

phorget:
Its all good then, incase you need any of my services then I would gladly be at your service.cheers!

johnson232:
the quotation is ok.
the posters above thought u meant just 3bedroom flat, not knowing two bedroom and BQ are also included.

but inquire from him if the aluminium window he is proposing is sliding with net..

so na una be benin people wey dey chop money for yankee..

which part of benin? my mum is from benin..

phorget:
I live in lagos, I also have a place in Ondo State(I actually have a project im supervising presently in Ondo town). Our kind of job isn't based on location, we have the habit of moving around in line with where the job is coming from.

johnson232:
lol.... 30k for plastering a flat?
make una no dey spoil contract for people abeg!

are u a builder?
it is very important to mix sharp sand with plaster sand, u should know why if u are a builder.

the op said 3 flats, did u bother to enquire what the op meant by 3flats?

plastering is not cost the way normal day labour is charge, or else boys will just be plastering one room for days and collecting their 3k daily.

assuming it is 3bedroom, it is not going to be less than 120,000 naira minimum in and out...

plapville - what is 3flats?

Tritri:
cement should be 1400 excluding delivery except u can buy from factory at 1k . Is it just a 3 bedroom flat bungalow then the Window price is high.

Annunaki:
It's way too ridiculously expensive. the costs are too high and you don't need the quantities of materials he is asking for to get the Job done. Also sharp sand is not needed for plastering and I doubt if you will need up 50 bags of cement to plaster the whole flat. Labour for bricklayers is charged at 3,000 naira per day and the labourers that assist them get 1,500 per day. I don't see why your total labour cost should be more than 30k for the plastering depending on how many days it will take to get the job done.

phorget:
depends on ur location... cement isn't sold for #1600 though. Add me up on watsapp then we can discuss biz. 07050424389

DeathStroke007:
I initially don't wanna answer you but I have to because of your ignorance




Islam has proof of everything it contains in Quran and hadith.



Where in Bible Jesus go church or he ask you to pay tithe or told you to trust Bible or he claimed to be God or biological son of God or Trinity or he told you he come to this world to die for your sins nor he told you to worship him nor he told you people that your religion is to be called Christianity

There's no where you can find it in Bible.



THAT'S WHAT WE CALLED FABRICATED RELIGION (CHRISTIANITY)

hockeyoilers:
So much hate in this thread. It's unfortunate.

VomeSchakleton:
Even your bible doesn't say Jesus is god, let alone the Quran.

PROOF OF THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST From the Koran and the Bible
Reader comment on item: Ban Islam?
in response to reader comment: a response to Ruh-ul-Qudus (Spirit of Holiness) by Keith Williams

Submitted by Nur-el-Masih Ben Haq (Nigeria), May 19, 2009 at 19:14

PROOF OF THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST From the Koran and the Bible

God began by choosing a chaste woman, Mary (Maryam). To qualify her, He necessarily exalted her in advance ABOVE ALL THE WOMEN OF CREATION, for birth is the women's GREATEST pride and, yet Mary would EXTRA-ORDINARILY give the birth that is the GREATEST of all times. See Luke 1:28, 30:34, 41-44, 48-49, and 54-55. Also says Qur'an 3:42, "....O Mary! Allah has CHOSEN thee, and PURIFIED thee, and PREFERRED thee ABOVE ALL THE WOMEN OF CREATION".

After that, God settled His soul (Ruh) inside His word (Kalimat) which he had put in the womb of Mary, who had been spiritually qualified as we have seen earlier. That was how Mary conceived Jesus. That was to enable the divine attribute have human features through her for the humans to understand Him better (Hence only Jesus is Biblicaly and Qur'anically declared as GOD's WORD and GOD's RUH (Spirit): John 1:1, 14:8:23, Phl. 2:5-8; and the Qur'an 4:171, 2:252 etc. (By implication, Jesus' flesh is not actually biological but God's Word; similarly, his life is not actually human's but from God's own as we will see more later).

Therefore, even after his humanly birth, Jesus was declared as much superior to angels and, in fact, God said, "Let ALL God's angels WORSHIP him (Jesus)" (Heb. 1:6; 1Pet. 3:22; Mat. 4:11), as was Adam, of course, in Qur'an 2:30-34.

Thus, apparently, Jesus was a human, the rationality and aim of his humanized birth. See Rom. 8:3-6; Heb. 2:16-18. Also, says Allah according to Qur'an 6:9, "Had We appointed an ANGEL our messenger, We ASSUREDLY had made him LIKE A MAN SO THAT HE MIGHT SPEAK TO (associate with) MEN...."

Muslims often cite John 5:30-31; Mark 13:32-33 and John 1428 etc as disproofs of Christ's divinity. But, logically, these verses, rather than disprove Jesus' divinity, expressed the anticipated and expected demonstrations of the character that was Jesus-in-exemplary-typical-human-nature and , therefore , in accordance with God's programme as stated in the Qur'an 6:9 and:-

(1) Phil. 2:6, "Who (Jesus) being in very nature God, did NOT consider equality with God something to grasp, 7 But made himself NOTHING, taking the very nature of a SERVANT, being made in human likeness 8, and found in appearance as a MAN, he HUMBLED himself and became OBEDIENT to the death, even death in the cross"

(2) Heb. 2:16, "For surely it is NOT ANGELS that he (Jesus) helps, but Abraham's descendants. 17 FOR THIS REASON HE (GOD) HAD TO MAKE HIM (JESUS) LIKE HIS BROTHERS IN EVERY WAY in order that......" (Compare Qur'an 6:9)

(3) Rom. 8:3, "(Jesus)....in the LIKENESS OF A SINFUL MAN.........."

So, in the light of these verses, it should be clear that Jesus' humanized acts did not mean that he was actually a human being (John 8:23) but were the divinely designs that were to make Jesus not unnecessarily scare the humans but, rather be their SOURCE OF INSPIRATIONS.

In other words, if Jesus were to act God-the-father again even when haven purposely transformed into a man, the transformation would logically be nonsense.

The Holy Bible reveals relationship between Adam and Jesus thus, "The FIRST Adam became a LIVING SOUL, the LAST Adam (Jesus) a QUICKENING SPIRIT", 1 Cor. 15:45. Therefore, to understand the nature of Jesus more, we must go back to the Adam's case.

Thus, when God breathed life into Adam (Qur'an 38:73-78 and Gen. 2:7), he (God) declared him His (God's) own IMAGE/LIKENESS (Gen. 2:7) or His VICEROY (Qur'an 2:30). Also, according to Qur'an 28:37-38, 15:39-44; 17:61-62; 7:11-13 and 2:34, Allah instructed ALL the angels to WORSHIP Adam on the ground that He (Allah) had breathed something of His SpIRIT into Adam for a soul (see Heb. 1:2-6, for the same instruction in respect of Jesus). In fact, according to these Qur'anic verses, Satan's curse and demotion are God's reaction to his (Satan's) refusal to prostrate himself before Adam.

Therefore, Biblically and Qur'anically Adam, whose flesh was made from just the sand (Gen. 2:7, Qur'an 28:72), was notwithstanding such GLORIOUS initially. And, logically, the glorious qualification came from what God breathed in him.

However, Adam did not pass Satanic test but sinned (that shows some relative weakness in him), thereby lost his INITIAL STATUS and therefore was ordered out of MOST EXALTED DWELLING, the Garden of Eden(Qur'an 7:19-24, Gen. 3:1-24). But Jesus passed all the Satanic tests (Mt.4:1-11, Heb. 4:15; Qur'an 19:19), which logically implies comparative superiority in him.

Therefore, the fact that SOIL is the comparative parent of Adam, who, again, could not pass Satanic test, sinned and was demoted; and Mary, the SUPERIOR among all women, is the comparative parent of Jesus, who, again, passed all the Satanic tests, did not sin and therefore was NEVER demoted, given that both Adam and Jesus got their souls unbiologically from God directly; it follows that whatever type of soul God gave Adam was originally INFERIOR to the one He gave Jesus. Thus Jesus would still have been superior to Adam even if he (Adam) had been able to defend his INITIAL STATUS, (and thus Jesus was very superior to the demoted Adam (and, by the way, EXTREMELY superior to Adam's descendants including MUHAMMAD, whom Allah found STRAY: Qur'an 12:3, 93:6-.


So if initially Adam, made from soil, was inter-alia, QUALIFIED to be God's IMAGE/LIKENESS (Biblically) or GOd's VICEROY and WORTHY OF A WORSHIP BY THE ANGELS OF GOD (Qur'anically), all because his soul was God-breathed, then Jesus, who has much greater of these qualifications and miraculousness (Bible, Qur'an 5:113), is logically divine.

Thus to Jesus' divinity God did order the angels to worship; indeed, only divinity can be worshiped (Mt. 4:8-10; Qur'an 16:36; Heb. 1:2-6).

That was why when Jesus was asked to disclose God he said, "Have I been with you so long and yet you do not know me...? He who has seen me has seen the Father (God); how can you say, 'show us the Father?..I do not speak on my (the human) authority, but the Father who DWELLS IN ME DOES HIS WORKS", John 14:8-10.

That is why Jesus was Biblically likened to (or understood to be) The Great Spirit Priest, Melchizedek who (being a spirit), has no biological father, mother, genealogy and dates of birth and death, but remains an eternal priest; Heb. 7:1-3, (i.e. the genealogy and date of birth of the ever living Jesus were but symbolic as earlier seen).

And, that is why when Jesus accomplished his mission on the Earth naturally, he went back to where he came from, Qur'an 4:158, "God has raised him up unto HIMSELF". See also John 6:28, 62, and Mk. 16:19. John 8:23.

Yes! Jesus is, according to both the Bible and the Qur'an, back to his origin, God.

This brings us to the issue of TRINITY. However, I will only discuss the aspect of Trinity that is relevant to the question of the Divinity of Christ. Later I will explain TRINITY in detail because now I have a pending work.