₦airaland Forum

Gbawe: Olodo, I should stay here and not move for the benefit of a butch hag like you? Do yourself a favour and concentrate on those actually paying you fawning attention. We know "hell hath no fury like Desola a woman scorned"

Here, because you are not clever enough, you don't see how obvious it is to 'discerning' Nairalanders (like Naturalwaves) that you are acting like a School kid with an unrequited crush. Abeg focus on sad eunuchs and frustrated pervs like fagasmitten and PuzzyB . That is your level because no refined or cultured man , with good taste, will touch an 'acidic' hag like you with a ten foot pole that has a smelly rag at the end of it.

Guy give it up already! Are you not ashamed of yourself haba! An old man with great white beard, exchanging words with a woman. I guess, you have no class, really!

Fagamite is loitering around the scene waiting for a chance to lay his paws on your sad ass, perhaps you can take the opportunity presented and save face. Abi which kain id!ot you be self? Akanbi_edu has even abandoned you. Don't you have a life? Na wa oo. Old men and their diseased tongues!

alj harem: am glad desola has opened her eyes Tinubu is not better than OBJ

I am still waiting for her to as 'thank' me for 'exposing' Gbawe. But then, my job is a thankless task. The good thing is that Desola is free. And Katsumoto is not buying the Tinubu/ACN saintly bullcrap.

Desola: I think he's effeminate or gay. He picks on the minutest thing and picks and picks on it. So repetitive! He wears me out even though i'm a woman. And I thought that I could nag!

That helps sometimes; his inability to quickly update his repertoire of hate words help you build immunity and resistance to his bull-crap. He inoculates you without knowing, funny such chap considers himself 'intelligent.' I bet he doesn't know street smartness.

Desola: Mr. Page 1,

"shrew" "uncouth" everywhere. So monotonic! Abeg come let me ugrade your vocabulary. You are giving me a headache with this repetitiveness.

Taba wi tan won a ni awon igi iwe.

An upgrade would be 'vacuous', 'feudalistic', 'indoctrinated' (alas that seems reserved for me and some other) If you keep up with you act, in about a few months time, you'll get new names. Heck, I am not suggesting anything.

Desola: Hahaha...the infamous page 1. Gbawe should be referred to as page 1 from now on abi what do you think?

Page 1,
Page 2
Link A
Link B,
Link xyz
quote "abc" "bcd"
He can quote a whole book, a section of post you made aeons ago, just to make a point. The guy has a the memory of an elephant, and the vindictiveness of Obj. But I still prefer to call him a: "Resident Hypocrite, Tinubu lapdog #1." I will update my reference/links should Page 1 sticks.

Gbawe: Guy, we have heard you. Please move on. Don't you have an election to conduct? This your show of sycophancy is nauseating. You and others should simply man up and call a spade a spade. I never knew Nairaland had so many "woman-wrapper" who cannot even do the decent thing and admit the simple truth. Condoning unprovoked acts of thuggery simply because you hate Gbawe? You see your life and where empty hatred will get you? Below is what I wrote as a Nairalander entitled to submit his opinion here without harrassment:



And this is the uncouth, unprovoked insulting response from the haggard shrew you and others are trying deceitfully to make a case for. You guys should cut the pathetic spin. It is nauseating. Get a life and stop this puke-inducing show of sucking up to a hateful shrew.

I almost didn't notice this.

Anyway, let me pick the important issue you raise, bolded above.

Indeed I have election to conduct, in Nairaland, in a few weeks time. The Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland election you so much detest. And unlike Tinubu ACN's practice, there will be a well organised free and fair nomination process, after which the winner and runners up will be polled. The good people of Nairaland including your hypocritical self will be free to vote. The winner will be announced.

That said, let me grant a little fuel to your rant! Grown and mature men, and indeed the African society, frown at men (small or big) who engage in shouting match and tantrum throwing with women, especially those who are much younger than them. Perhaps because of your immaturity or the fact that you are puzzy, a little girl-child, you didn't know better. Why you blame me for your failure, is beyond me. I didn't raise you a foolish, twisted, and warped, sad puzzy! Guy, look elsewhere, PointB is not responsible for you stup!dity, old gay!

And if you want to cry (when you grow old of whining) you are free to cry a me a river.

fagamite: Why do you write like a retardd? Why are you doing yourself a disservice? And to think you have a phd in hydroponics . . . smh

Lol,
I have edited the comment.

Most Igbo like Chime(PDP) I meant to say. Heck, I can campaign for the guy.
And the PHD in Hydroponics, I suppose is from your fermented brain, NO?

shymexx: Why is Desola allowing the two ethnocentric clowns, ACM10 and PointB, play games on her?

You're more intelligent than the two clowns combined, read the handwriting on the wall.

Perhaps you should go through the thread again, and see who has been trying to put her down, from em..., emm.. page 1
You will see clearly, that PointB, and ACM10 has no hand in it.

Desola has a mind of her own, she yearns for freedom, as you should!

Desola: Yes, yes. I have seen clearly that Tinubu isn't all I touted him to be. I am no longer a blind follower.

I can bring it back if you want, if only to gore you.

Not sure you were ever a blind follower. You knew the truth all along. I suppose the problem is 'tribalism' - everyone want to protect his own. And I think that is perfectly okay. But, alas, even tribalism have a limit.

Most Igbos like Chime (PDP), but detest Orji (PDP). So at times, when Gbawe sell Aregbesola, and Amosun as super performer simply because they are ACN, then one begin to wonder silently, and eventually aloud, that something is wrong.

I think that is the stage you are, now. ACN is a party, just like PDP, CPC, APGA. None of them is perfect! But they boast certain good politicians and/or governors.

Desola: The doggone boy just got me started. He needs to be taught a lesson or two. I will make sure that his kingdom is trashed. His head on a platter and his minions enslaved. I will draw the last blood!

He has no kingdom, except for some mindless followers, and imaginary stalkers! He is all talk and no poo. Break no further sweat. You have done enough for the day, tomorrow will come. It's a long drawn war you have stepped into; Gbawe does not forgive, nor forget!

Desola: The same old story, over and over again! Keep playing that damn record of page one when we're already on page 8? Get with the programme, boy! I know you're slow on the uptake but come on, this is two thousand and twelve but you're two thousand and late! Brave men don't whine, they stand up but of course you don't have the spine to that, do you? You are spineless and I would continue to whoop your behind here and beyond. I would show you what real hell means since you have now identified my location.

Come, Gbawe. Did you say I was jealous? Hahahahaha...you have got to be the joker of the year. You do take all these online rubbish seriously, don't you? For all i know you could be sitting in a ramshackle with tattered clothes in a cybercafe somewhere but in your own little deluded mind you concluded that I am jealous. Tell me, what of. Of your supreme intellect? The gift of the gab? That you rub shoulders with Tinubu? Of what exactly? You are a deranged fellow and I think you have been high on kai-kai for far too long. It's time you are brought down to earth as your tenancy in la-la land has now expired.

And I said this guy was intelligent? Twe! Kelebe! Twe!!

Darn!!!
Take it easy, Desola. When you dent a big ego, lying hypocrite and sycophants like Gbawe, do it a bit at a time! I think you've had a fair draw of blood. It's time you retire. Take a step back, Gbawe is vindictive, even worse than Obj. What you have stepped into is a marathon. Never a sprint. Conserve your energy and move on!
(This is a friendly advice, you are not oblige to accept.)

naturalwaves: So,if I throw an unwarranted insult at U,U just gonna look on? Common,everyone cannot be a Dummy Variable.Issues are usually tackled 4rm d roots and not mid way. Even if U av a prejudiced opinion abt Gbawe,it is of no importance here. If she had acknowledged her faults and apologised as d instigator of d 2-fighting,roforofo or wateva U call it,Gbawe being a civil man that he is would av definatly done so too.

If u throw insults at me. Here are my options:

1. I can ignore and let it pass
2. I can 'notice' and ask you withdraw it
3. I can ask for apologies, but not make it a big deal
4. I can retaliate with more powerful venom

If I respond with option 4, as your master Gbawe did, it is mischievous (putting mildly) to turn around and ask for apologies. Maybe, he can start by apologizing first, if he is as civil as you think him.

Of course it's your choice to think my assessment is because of my prejudice against Gbawe, frankly I don't care about that, unlike, folks I know who want to appear acceptable to others, looking for history (page 1, page 2, page 0) to validate them. PointB is not like that my guy, feel free!

From what I read I think it's a sort of suspension. I hope it is made permanent. Afam4eva (or someone else) once reminded us that the cattle rearer do so for profit, not for charity. Same applies to the farmers (in every corner of Nigeria) who acquire land, seedling, and other farm inputs, and raise their crops at great cost, only for grazing cattle to descend on such labour.

This is 21st century, the cattle herders should develop more 'love' for their animals, and raise them in ranches. It amount to sheer cruelty to make the animal travel such long, and dangerous terrain to cities, in search of food, simply because their herder enjoy long distance travel. I put it to the herder that the cow don't enjoy the trek. Keep them in ranches!

naturalwaves: I didn't support Gbawe. I came 4rm an objective point of view devoid of any known previous encounter wit both of U and I saw U were rude and unnecessarily insultive without a provocation and based on dat,I'm saying it again,U were wrong.It's so glaring and only a partial observant will say otherwise. Who are U to tell me 2 back up or shut up ? U think U talking 2 ur kid bro?

And Gbawe condescending approach, laced with ill conceived, ill intended hate filled rapprochement was right, right? Guy, when you come to equity, come with clean hands, that is the basic requirement. Katsumoto has described the situation very well.

Katsumoto:

You are funny sir, I give you that.

On this thread, she gave you a slap and you responded with a blow slap.

And then like Abami said, it turned to Roforofo fight.

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It is called two-fighting!!

Crazy thread, yet revealing.

Gbawe baring his his fangs against Desola, and Katsumoto for daring to question ACN. Those who don't know any better will ask: what world have we awoken to? But those insightful who understand that hypocrisy, and sycophancy has a name - Gbawe, will never be surprised. They will, like me, only feel vindicated!!!


@Topic,
Perhaps when Tinubu finishes recouping his investment in ACN, captures the whole of SW, and make a princely profit, only then will the ACN (Tinubu) harken to Katsumoto's lofty idealism that they sponsor bill(s) which seeks to achieve what their leader so professed. Or does it not amount to attention seeking, for Tinubu to make such sweeping suggestion (even though the idea was not originally his) without mandating his party to put into action, event that may lead to it's fruition. Or is ACN incapable of making such effort?

Tinubu has spoken, the ball is in ACN court, let see them sponsor a bill, let see words forged into action!

Akanbi_edu: I normally joke with friends to join the political process because I believe strongly that it's difficult to understand some things if you are not involved. It is even more difficult to explain some of those things because ordinarily those things are morally wrong. I will make an attempt to expantiate the practical side of the story. It's not something I would have loved to do online though but because I don't want some influential NL member against Tinubu, at this time, I would make an exception.

Let me start by asking a question, can you make a guess how much Amosun spent contesting election in 2007 and 2011 respectively. Any idea? I am not expecting an answer, just to make a point. Although, masses and bystanders like to say eh people should contest election for the interest of the people, good but.............we don't see people making active contribution by supporting those candidates not only in terms of money but in working for the candidate before during and after election. That is the reality. Those that are enlightened enough to differentiate between candidates and choose the better one........you will never see them in politics, 60% of them will not even register to vote talkless of voting and if it so happens that a little fracas or even a rumour of it occurs, it's a bye bye to them altogether. I call them useless middle-class. I hope you are following my logic.

So the politician(Amosun for example) has to put in his personal resources to gain the support of people whose only work is politics. I hope you know what that means? He has to start paying before primaries at the party level. Then election proper, you pay party agents who most times have to pay voters before they even come out to vote. There are at least 2000 polling booths in Ogun, every one of them must be supplied with raw cash. I hope you saw the gubernatorial election results in Ogun, you will notice that if we combine PDP and PPN, a faction that broke away from PDP, together, they beat ACN. That is inspite of all the crazy things that happened under OGD. As PDP guys kept dashing money to people to vote, ACN was equally responding even though with less cash. But the main idea is people still collected money before coming out to vote.

Now put yourself in a typical Amosun's shoe. You have contested election for the same office twice and you have spent something around 1 billion naira in the process. Another election is staring you in the face in the next four years, you are not dominating your domain yet and yet you have a formidable central party, with all the money and state machinery, to contend with. We are all human beings. The idea that a man will have only the interest of the people at heart at his own detriment doesn't work 98% of the time, we can only hope to have a situation whereby interests are shared. What ACN does in short is to seek a balance between[b] performance[/b] and retaining its position. Remember, you need to be in position first before you can perform. I can tell you authoritatively that apart from Lagos and Kano, PDP can TAKE any other state they feel like if you don't do "retaining your position" well and that means oiling your political machinery from time-to-time.

I know we all want good for the people but we are putting things in the right perspective here. Tinubu and Atiku founded ACN together, why did Atiku return to PDP? We need to appreciate Tinubu a bit more for now. The fixation on his wealth and supposed benefit should not make us lose focus of the big picture. He has built a party from one state to 5 state and trying to increase the tally, he's going to need all the money he can get to do that. This may not be a good way to put it but consider that model against a PDP that is founded using federal money. He is up against people who control stolen oil, police, army, etc so he has to strike a balance between performance and sustaining his side. I hope I made sense.

It is not the ingenuity or sophistication of Yoruba people that unseat PDP in SW, It is largely due to opposition politics played by Tinubu though with help from PDPs failure. People are equally angry with PDP in every part of Nigeria but have found it difficult to remove PDP. The reason for this should not be far-fetched, resources to prosecute such. popularity and performance are good but not enough.

So in other words, it is very okay for Tinubu to loot Lagos, and other ACN State treasury, enrich himself, and install stooges, so that PDP will not come back? Fantastic!

Desola: Who the heck make you a messiah and who are the said minions.

Please, please! It would augur well for your to desist in propping up your point by injecting my name into it.

If you can, try not to make this thread about Gbawe or your st.up.id president who does not know his right from left, whether he is coming or going.

The cheek of bringing Jonathan into a sensible discussion!

Augur well? When did 'auguring' become the mantra of PointB in Nairaland? If you don't want your name popping up in Nairaland, perhaps you should not comment.
It is my prerogative to articulate my points as I deem fit as it is yours to respond as you deem fit. If Gbawe chose to make the thread about me and him, in his usual way of deflecting attention from Tinubu, how is it my fault, when I respond to him? Lastly, how you feel about GEJ is your cup of tea, I care less! But that will not remove the fact that it was his policy that rescue SW from election rigger of PDP SW, never Tinubu! Simple!

Gbawe: Look, you are simply a debased liar. Your shameless attempt at sucking up above is nauseating. Don't do it lying against me simply because you want a cringeworthy alliance with someone you percieve shares a mindless hatred of others with you. Show where I have touted Tinubu as leader of the Yorubas. Most yorubas , unlike you, are not feudalistically and mentally shackled with the concept of supreme leader. He is a Leader of the ACN and politically astute Yorubas knows what that really translates to.

It is you and others of your ilk who are always looking for one man to worship, deify and bow to. It is an obsession with you and you even do it on this forum. Tinubu is only important in so far as he helped rid the SW of the killers and thugs of OBJ and has replaced them with an undoubtedly better crop of leaders. Like him or hate him, you would be a born liar (you are anyway) to deny that Tinubu has consistently endorsed the ambition of progressive men everywhere with 'loaded' CV's and proven history of leadership.

Your snivelling attempt at currying favour here only show that you are still mentally stuck with the demigod-model of politics that has ruined Nigeria with its focus on strong men rather than strong institutions. To that end, intelligent Yorubas, and even Igbos, who see and appreciate what matter cannot be taking in by your paranoid and parochial talk against Tinubu.

Nigerians live in States. We don't live in tinubu's house . If he continues to support men like Akeredolu everywhere, do you think genuinely bright Yorubas , who see what is important, will have a problem with him? You can remain here with your mock tears for the SW. One thing is that you cannot get anyone to hate Tinubu when everyone sees him replacing undeserving mediocrities with genuinely progressive men. That is what matters ultimately.

Your feudalism will not allow you to see what the most politcally sophisticated Nigerian see. We are past the days where mortal men were regional demi-gods. We don't need that anymore. Issues are now more about the intangibles like the enshrinement of a system of good Governance and continuity. You can stay here trying to whip up sentiments against Tinubu with your foolish scaremongering only the gulluble will be taking in by.

The Yorubas don't do supreme leader. Tinubu has his use as a politically leaders. Get that into your thick head. We are, first and foremost, concerned about good leadership. Indeed in that respect, it can be said that Tinubu has not done badly at all. Where others condemned the SW into the hands of thugs, Tinubu has supported those who, unequivocally, are professionally solid and proven leaders with minds of their own. In short, Omoluabis.

Good luck selling the "Tinubu wants to become emperor of the SW" to the gullible when Yoruba people show they have moved beyond that. As long as Tinubu continues to use Party aparatus and wealth to support good leaders in the region, then hate him all you want. The Yorubas know what Nigeria is to pragmatically understand Tinubu is needed. Heck some disillusioned Yorubas, with a misplaced sense of what is important, can join your thinking.

You are inconsequential at the end of the day to the Yoruba project. We are different to others. We appreciate Tinubu but know what he is. Like someone mentioned earlier, we are not practicing regional Governance so your talk matters nought. When we get to that level the Yorubas will know how to handle Tinubu. For now, take your scaremongering away and let folks focus on what matters - good governance where Nigerians live in i.e their respective States.

So this long emotional outburst akin to what is expected of a woman approaching menopause is all because I allege, and rightly so, that you are the numero uno merchant of the defective merchandise that is Tinubu? Dude you are simply a sissy, and a little cry baby. I know Katsumoto has done very well trying to school you about your obsession with Emperor Tinubu, but like a typical blockhead I can see how hard it it for you to learn the basics. Is it because an old dog can't learn new trick, or is just of your automatic switching to defensive mode, each time Tinubu is mentioned? Even so, you MUST learn, whether you like it not!

And whether you choose the direct path, or deploy the use of reverse psychology in the promotion Emperor Tinubu, the saviour of SW, folks like us will always be around to set the record straight, or the very least expose the fallacy of your argument. And let us be very clear once again. TINUBU DID NOT SAVE SOUTH WEST FROM PDD - FREE AND FAIR ELECTION ENCOURAGED, AND INSISTED BY GEJ (A PDP MAN) DID. Now get that basic fact into you thick skull, and reflect on it. You can call me whatever names you like, but one thing is clear, your webs of lies, and empire of hypocrisy is gradually been exposed to the whole world.

Sensible folks are beginning to see you for the lies, and hypocrisy you represent, and they are beginning to challenge the spell you hold over them with your lies. Desola has sussed you out, Katsmoto have tried to school you, Jmaine knew you as a bloody hypocrite, and a Tinubu acolyte.One by one the people are realizing the truth about you. Soon or later, the free world of Nairaland will come to the realization of the fact that like your paymaster Tinubu, you are not here to promote their interest.Keeping lying to yourself, and keep attempting to deceive gullible people who buy your bullsh!t.

Guy, you are simply here because you are a paid agent of Tinubu, whose simply job is to sell your master, recruit mindless minions, and deflect attention from the fraud, and shenanigans Tinubu represent, using the bogeyman - PDP! Again you are blatantly lying that Tinubu hold no power, that people of SW should hold their governors, and senators responsible? Is there anyone in SW who doesn't know that Tinubu hold sway over the (puppet) governors of ACN? Is there anyone who doesn't know that most of those guys are handpicked by Tinubu, and foisted upon the people? Is it not a truism that he who pays the piper dictates the tune? Who for instance is more powerful between Tinubu and Fashola, Tinubu and Amosun, Tinubu and Aregbesola? If Tinubu decides to use the several puppets installed in the State Assembly in the various ACN controlled states to blackmail 'arrant' State governors, how will clowns like you know, let alone prevent it? SW is sitting on a tinderbox, with one man craftily arrogating power, and means to himself, and you are here asking folk to look away - scaring them with PDP! I laugh, and sometimes feel sorry for those who take your lies for it face value.

Guy, you sell lies, misinformation, and plain propaganda, your are as evil as the come. People should start paying serious attention to you! You are no longer a joke, seriously you are a bundle of evil!!

I have news for you Gbawe, I am the one sent to rescue your blind minions from your spell - I am your nemesis, as you so named me! I will waltze in and out of affairs of any geopolitical region in Nigeria, and beyond, however I like. And you lied again, my opinion in Yoruba affairs (as in any other ethnic group in Nigeria) is very very important, whether you admit it or not. Your attempt to ease me off discussion in so-called exclusive domain only strengthen my resolve to participate whenever I feel like, and in whatever way I deem suitable. I have vast interest in SW affair, as a huge swath of my people resides there (even if I dont). So if Tinubu, will be picking and choosing amenable (puppets) leadership across the region, his personality, motives will have to be passed through a magnifying glass. and not a millon Gbawe can stop that!

You are fighting a lost cause even as your position as Resident Hypocrite, and Tinubu lapdog #1, remains unchallenged. It is a cap you daily wear with poise! Bundle of evil!!

Katsumoto: That should be the approach.

The only issue is that thieves will never vote to reduce their loot. The president is unable to do so and only a Machiavellian president could achieve that.

Indeed, thieves will never vote to reduce their loot, that is why a very solid internal democracy is necessary in every political party. This will pave way for the triumph of meritocracy of favoritism and god fatherism. A competent individual who gets to any of those 'hallowed chambers' on merit has a better chance of doing the right thing, that those who rode on the wings of some god fathers.

Yet still, it will take time, and the approach has to be gradual - revolution and Nigeria are not next of kins. Evolution is the key!

@topic,

Getting Ohaneze to get serious about this pronouncement should be the our next line of action. It one thing to talk and whet appetite, it is yet another to follow through your plans. Ohanaze, and APGA should forge their words into bold action, starting with resolving their inter-party squabble. Anambra (2014) is around the corner, and Abia and Ebonyi state need to be rescued from the clowns running them.

I dont think I will lend my weight to the call for abolition of Senate. On one hand the bi-camera system allows for check and balances. It also ensures that the system and law making cannot easily be compromised by inducement. On the other hand, the fact that the abolition will be carried out by it's selfish beneficiary makes it dead on arrival.

That said, the cost of running this system is huge, especially in the Nigeria context. This cost should be the target for reduction, not the idea. Hence, a gradual and systematic reduction of cost of running the two houses should be implemented, over a course of time. Of course too, this will be resisted, however a popular president, desirous of achieving this, can of course spend some of his political capital built upon the momentum of his victory, take a bite at a chunk of this cost. Done every now and then, the cost of running this system will keep dropping, until a sustainable level is reached.

Desola: I'm sorry PointB but we are on opposite sides of the spectrum. That I can no longer stand Gbawe does not in any way, shape or form mean I am a signatory to your line of thought.

Tinubu is fit to be a political leader and far better in my opinion than jonasatan but to be the leader of the Yorubas is what I totally oppose. The stark difference between him and Awo is that Awo was not only a Yoruba political leader, he was also the leader of the Yorubas who stood for integrity, loyalty, vision, progress and dignity. All these qualities, I find lacking in Tinubu but for rescuing the SW from the evil PDP party (although for his own gratification), I commend him and indebted to him.

Personally I understand you, and I am not asking you to agree with my line of thought. I am only interested in the fact that you appear more critical a thinker, unlike the many mindless Tinubu choir. So I quite appreciate your candor, in stating that Tinubu is not fit lead Yoruba, a role he is positioning himself for, while others, encouraged by the likes of Gbawe are buying into his gradual usurpation of something reserved for the revered.

At the peak of Obasanjo power, the worst of the lot held sway as Governors in the SW region - no thanks to the daylight rigging enthroned by him. Compared to Obj, GEJ is a saint, at least for not encouraging rigging in the last election in the SW for starters. GEJ could have used Obj template, and rigged in anyone he fancies, and then stare down any resistance with AK47 wielding soldiers, or hound hard nut with EFCC - you know the drill!. But he chose a different course - fairness; a course the likes or Tinubu take credit for. So Tinubu did not rescue SW from PDP, free and fair election, encouraged and enthroned by GEJ you strongly detest did that! That he is able to operate freely and move around is simply because GEJ is not as vindictive as Obj.

Now the question you, and other thinking Yorubas should be asking is: Where exactly is Tinubu leading SW, toward Buhari CPC ala Akintola, or his own burgeoning empire? And where does SW intend to be, having been 'rescued' from PDP? What exactly is SW integration? Is it an integration of Tinubu numerous companies and drain pipes, and puppet Governors? Or a coalescing of independent minded free people and leaders of SW? And I still ask, that a SW is not a Speaker of the House is it GEJ or Tinubu's fault? What commitment did Tinubu extract from Tambuwal (evil PDP) to sell the position allocated to SW to him? if it is politics, what is in it for SW?

Desola: Aboo rimi bayi? Oro lasan ni mo beere o ti agba iya yen ma de mu mi bu ke. I respected him a lot and was to a degree influenced by what I thought were unbiased points of views and political issues affecting Nigeria but as time passed, I started to notice a pattern - a pattern where you were not allowed to speak against the ACN, that if you were Yoruba, you were meant to accept all that ACN does so as to resist PDP in every way. No one loathes the PDP and the jonasatan's government more than me but I refuse to be a sheep and take all that ACN does, hook, line and sinker. ACN isn't infallible, they are nothing more than an offshoot of PDP (giving that a good chunk of their members were at some point PDP card carriers) but they on the back of Fashola and Oshiomole seem to be edging their rivals. However, must we say because one is our child, we should over pamper it? If we don't remove the speck from our eyes, should be wait for others to do it? I have never read any thread where this man has constructively criticised ACN or is he trying to say that they are without blesmish? Trust me, Seanet, your egbon is no longer impartial. I have a strong belief that he is now being paid. He is not as objective as he used to be.

He can call me all obscenities in the book but I make no apologies for my NL personality. I don't wear masks like he does and to be honest, he has let me down big time.

Thank God you finally sussed that guy out. I hope he doesn't start saying you are attacking Yoruba and Yoruba leaders (ACN and Tinubu by his own reckoning.) When I call him Resident Hypocrite, Tinubu Laptop #1, some think it's an unnecessary attack borne of bigotry. Glad to see others are noticing the hypocrisy, that is Gbawe!

Granted ACN hit the Jackpot with Fashola (who incidentally is been pegged back by Tinubu), and Oshimole (a self made principled man). And even those two fellow have equal match in PDP's Akpabio and Ameachi, and APGA's Rochas and Peter Obi! The class of Amosun, and Aregbesola are very mediocre governors, comparable to the likes of T. Orji, Elechi, and several nameless Northern Governors. You will never see Gbawe agree that Amosun, and Aregbesola have failed to live up to their hype. Can you point one major achievement of any of these two guys? But Gbawe think they are closer to Clinton in intellect, and George Bush in decisiveness! All because those mediocres are of ACN. Pray say, have you ever seen Gbawe compliment or encourage Mimiko, despite the respect and love he commands in Ondo state? Is not clear that he is only interested in promoting the growth of Tinubu empire - never what is good for yoruba man! Gbawe is a paid hack, while Beaf probably did his for fun or believe he had in project GEJ!

So what makes ACN so damn infallible to the extent Gbawe will never bear to see people critique ACN; to the extent that Tinubu (of all people) is parading himself as the one to determine the fate of SW. So far, the only Yoruba who don't see anything wrong with that is picture is Gbawe, and his minions, who have made every one questioning ACN to be against, Yoruba (even jmaine, was not spared.) My dear, fight Igbos all you want, but don't let any of your 'brother' pull a wool over your face! Tinubu is not fit to lead the Yoruba race, he is too susceptible to blackmail; it would be a massive mistake to entrust your bargaining power to Tinubu! Why is a Yoruba not the speaker of the House today? Your hated 'Jonasathan' or 'Tinubu'? Yorubas pride themselves as intelligentsia, now is the time to think for yourself: Is Tinubu leading you aright, is Gbawe still that objective forumer of years back?

Desola: while it appears that Tinubu makes sense in his suggestions, he is in no position to talk really as not only is he a beneficiary of the rot in government, he is also a perpetrator. That he created a party different from that of the notorious evil party - PDP, does not avail him from the ills he has also committed. If truly he believes in fairness and credibility, he would have encouraged a far more qualified ACN member to represent Lagos state and not foist his wife whom had no recorded experience in political administration other than being a one time first lady of Lagos state. Admitedly, PDP is probably the worst political party that has ever happened to Nigeria, but ACN with its oligarchic tendencies could be another PDP waiting to happen.

As per the matter he raised, my opinion is that for there to be check and balance, we require both the lower and the upper houses. Getting rid of one and giving absolute power to the other would be absolutely wrong (at least in Nigeria) because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely! What we need is an overhaul, restructuring but not removal. In all, our powers need to be separated and made more effective, less corruptible and more credible. These are what we need. Can you tell the UK to remove the house of Lords or tell the US to remove the senate? It makes no sense.

Tinubu should come up with suggestions that can actually be implemented not just talking for talking sake so as to be seen as an opposition leader. He is getting stale fast.

+1000
Saying it as it is! Brilliantly done.

I think OAM4J and Jarus are both decent moderators in the politics section. Frankly speaking moderating a section like this (politics), with a lot of spontaneous burst of extreme bigotry, and ethnicity is not cakewalk.

Jarus would ordinarily appear much acceptable and fairer because you hardly see him jump into threads, let alone take sides. Hence, it's more difficult to assess him, especially in matters not connected with Sanusi Lamido of CBN.

I suppose OAM4J is much younger and more exuberant, hence the tendency for his 'hyperactivity.' He might have aided one side of the ethnic divide (tactically or strategically) using his position, but you hardly see him take sides in the e-fights. Putting myself in his shoes, I think he has managed his responsibility fairly well. But if he needs to change, he certainly have a conscience to tell him so. But then this is CYBER!

Not impossible.

Commercial cities are often founded on trade routes, by traders!

Babasessy: SPOKESMAN of the Lagos chapter of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), Mr. Joe Igbokwe has harped on the need for regional integration in South West Nigeria, saying it was far more important than the political ambition of Governor Olusegun Mimiko of Ondo State.

In a statement, he traced the history of integration in Nigeria to the “early 1940s and 1950s in the days of Zik of Africa and Chief Obafemi Awolowo until the unfortunate event on the floor of the Western House in 1951.”

Urging the people of Ondo State to vote out Mimiko in next month’s governorship election and usher in Mr. Rotimi Akeredolu (SAN), the flag-bearer of ACN as governor, he said the state “must be returned to the great family where they belonged originally.

“Regional integration in the South West Nigeria is one of the biggest projects in Nigeria today and Ondo State cannot afford to be in isolation. Like every other good thing in Nigeria, the regional integration going on in the South West is being copied by other zones in Nigeria. Ondo State cannot afford to be left behind in this serious business, Mimiko or no Mimiko.”

He continued: “South West or Yoruba nation is too important than the ambition of one man called Segun Mimiko. South West regional integration is far more important than the ambition of one man called governor Segun Mimiko.

“Segun may be pretending to be in the Labour Party but in actions, and deeds and in body language, he is PDP. Dan Iwuanyanwu, the Chairman LP, has just received a National Honour from President Jonathan and as political historians, we in ACN understand the game very well.

“Today, no one ethnic group or zone will say that it is better than South West Nigeria.Is it in terms of education? Is it in terms of wealth? Is it economy? Is it religious tolerance? Is it market?”

http://247nigerianewsupdate.com/swest-integration-more-important-than-mimikos-ambition/

Fantastic. Now pls can we have Mr. Joe Igbokwe succeed Fashola as the next Governor of Lagos State? Afterall, Mr. Joe Igbokwe, is amply qualified?

I will be campaigning for him!

[size=18pt]Joe Igbokwe - next Governor of Lagos State[/size]

aasog1: Actually, Mimiko is still a positive element in the SW. And all the Yorubas would be extremely fortunate, if LP wins in Ondo in the impending guber-election.
The ACN needs a political threat, someone to keep them on their feet, and Mimiko is actually right....the progress isnt entirely "original".
I have been extremely disappointed LP is still closeted to Ondo, it would be nice if they take maybe one more state. If we have 2 positive factions, and they are both competing progressively, this would create a robust, and additional even better political platform besides the ACN....Whoever wins, the people wins. And thats what the entire part of Nigeria isnt about.
So, come this coming guber-run, I hope the ACN gets totally disgraced in Ondo. Atleast, it would give the entire ACN govs a clear warning....It isnt about politics or Tinubu. Its about what the people want....

Well put!

Lol.

Funny, very funny!

afam4eva: If any of the oil well is found in Kogi or Enugu territory then they have the right to be compensated one way or the other.

Well, not by attacking the Refinery, which is what the warning is all about. And it's still a matter of 'IF"

afam4eva: Exactly...only Buhari can pose a threat to Jonathan's ambition. He happens to be the only popular northern candidate at the moment. Sanusi is a nonentity as far as politics in concerned.

Please o. Abeg don't discourage the man. I like to see him on the campaign trail, telling Nigerians why he introduced N5,000. I am also interested in seeing how the Yoruba will relate to his article: "Yoruba are the problem of Nigeria"

https://www.nairaland.com/860099/yorubas-problem-nigeria

Abeg make I laugh small!

Enugu and perhaps Kogi will discover oil in commercial quantity sooner or later, the whole SE region seems awash with oil. I think they should walk away from Anambra oil and explore for oil in their domain. Avariciousness has always been one of the pitfall of man. It is futile to claim what you did not work for.

I stand with Anambra on this matter, let them enjoy the fruit of the investment.