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By the way, wasn't SEUN the fellow who stuck a message against promoting secession in the Politics board for over 7 years now? What changed overnight? Now he's floating secessionist flag and message on his front page?

Agenda must agend?

You have the support of the Igbo nation, but meanwhile, get a good knife, and carve out every Igbo speaking part of this union; any variant of Igbo.

Port Harcourt will still remain Igwe Ocha!

The Turkish President must be IPOB - Agbadorians

nlfpmod, mynd44 rule 2 and 3

I watch the barbaric video and totally condemn it in strongest term; the perpetrators do not represent me in any way,

But I must also say that maker of the video insisted they were UGM. Not that it makes it defensible, but we need to understand there different armed groups operating in SE wilth different agenda.

A clear case is the distinction between IPOB and AutoPilot. There are also the ESN , and UGM, and other criminal groups in between. It is not sufficient to take criminals by the words, but rather conduct further investigation into unravelling the true picture.

Screaming IPOB at every such event is a lazy approach and will not provide solution.

Beyond that, we need to also understand the game the FG is playing with the Kanu's rendition and trial. Was his detention supposed to curb or lead to this type of situation? Is the FG strategy working?

I think the FG need to revaluate which is a bigger problem for them - IPOB led by Kanu, Simon and his AutoPilot group as clearly these are two different group. And a lot of armed groups have festered either for or against these groups (IPOB and AutoPilot) or for against the State and FG.

If FG does not act quick, what we see in this video if repeated might create a chain reaction which might be difficult to control. It is naive to say 'It doesn't concern me.'

Adaisback:
Tinubi, I pray that God will instill fear in your heart so you won't invade Niger. Many of my people are there and I won't let you put their lives on the line because of your yeye ego

Stop wasting your prayers. The war is over, and Tinubu has lost!

Asgard73:
They think is some kind of Kiriji war

The new song now be ..
the rebels are feeling the heat; their generals are scared ; they’re hiding under their table ; fear of ecowas ;
Gibberish upon stupidity..


Still invade .. them no dare .. running mouth and propaganda .. is in their nature ..

Ecowas no get level again.. IBB no make mistakes when he said was he said

Niger Rebels are truly snoring..

Lol.

When he orderd the borders closed, and cut off electricity, I thought the C-in-C had given the final order to invade, only for the guy to start running all over the place asking for for support and troops.

Seriously, if this was how he rig the election, no wonder it's so messy. The man doesn't seem to know how to organise a clean operation. Everything he does is gra gra; no planning. Even just removing fuel subsidy and curtailing the FX issue, he made a mess of it.

Planning and execution department is deeply lacking with this impostor president.

They just embarassed and disgraced Nigeria further with unneccessary war mongering.

Someone thought that invading a country is like snatching ballot boxes, or preventing people from voting, That's what Nigeria, and now ECOWAS has been reduced to - rabble rousers!

PoliticalUpdate:
Some groups were cheering the ECOMOG for war, but it seems like it was all chest beating! If you have been keeping up with the Western proxy war, you will know that Russia will never allow the US access to Niger's Uranium for cheap.

The U.S sanctioned everything against Russia but left out their Uranium trade deal which they never dared to sanction; because that is one good area Russia can hurt them very badly. Without access to Uranium, the US WILL BE LEFT IN THE SECOND WORLD - as BRICS takes giant steps into creating a new team of superpowers.

Remember power is built on Economy not the Military - Russia learnt this lesson during the Cold War, and China has been very well adept at it.

Just to crown it all, Tinubu will do nothing. A bit of Rothschild apocrypha you may come across is a juicy quote also attributed to Nathan: “I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England. . . . The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.”

We don't have the Economic power to wage ECOWAS's war. If they step into Niger, they will be in open confrontation against Russia. I would love to know what Ukraine feels when a Kamikaze drone hits them hard. Children of Corn over to you.

helinues:
I would rather pick beans than engaging in futility exercise.

Some of una don dey turn wailing to generational things

Alright go and pick beans, cos clearly that what your generation is capable of. Good luck!

mrvitalis:
The assumption of this is on the bases that tinubu remains president till 2027

If Tinubu remains till 2027, it will still be defeatist for SE to agree to surrender power willing after getting in 4 years. The only reason that should happen is if that president of SE extract is incompetent.

I would want to assume that if the president is competent and solving Nigeria problem, even his political party will want him to go again. 2023 had shown that an Igbo man can become president in a free and fair election, and that PDP cannot win election without the SE.

We can grow LP into a formidable party, and go again.

helinues:


The sore losers dem, always full of hatred and bile

Una better be preparing to write long epistle letters to US, UN, AU, FIFA and W.H.O cos the judgement from the judges is only going to be a formality.

Go and write your own letter to Biden or are you incapable of doing so? Everyone know that Tinubu is a drug baron, only shameless and unpatrotic people defend him.

Dottormentor:
I can see you don't understand politics, who else from the North that can beat kwankwaso and Ateaku? Is he shehu sanni? Obi doesn't have what it takes to stand alone coz his region is another problem 1percent votes. No northerner will vote for Obi if you like conduct election 1million times.
Free and fair he can't defeat anyone from south and core north. I know is bitter but that's the fact.

No Northner will vote Obi indeed. So all those votes and states he won in the North are from Mars? All this childish post self.

mrvitalis:
Why should North vote u and wait for 8 years them they can endure tinubu and get presidency in 4 years.... It's common sense oga

It's not about the North, it's about PDP. I wouldn't want to put Tinubu in the equation, cos he won be in power for 1 year. The court will boot him out for justice.

This thread is just pure speculatiion as Atiku and Kwankwaso know the right thing is for SE to do 8 years. It's their job to sell it to their people just as you are trying to short sell us. Besides, if PO is voted out after 4 years for lack of performance, that's fair. But to just timidly offer to leave after 4 years is a no no.

OfoIgbo:
Your sentiments are exactly the same as mine. OBI/DATTI OR NOTHING.

Tinubu, Kwankwaso and Atiku will always split each others votes. Obi does not need this coalition.

Obidients will not accept Obi or Datti being dropped in the altar of one quack merger

Datti was also once in PDP, so it makes sense that the merger will still bring him up. Atiku, and Kwankwaso will support PO Datti, and in exchange nominate a Southern candidate of their choice for Datti after 8 years, or ask Datti to step aside after 8 years as VP similar to what we had with Osinbajo.

That's a way to solve this problem.


But all of these are just speculations as the PEPT will upturn the election, in favour of PO DATTI. That's why our eyes are on the judiciary.

justtoodark:
because you guys are lousy in politics....

Sorry I don't have time for shallow minds. It's monday morning. Go and look for someone else to troll.

mrvitalis:
Igbos don't care for power... 4 years is enough for obi to implement structural changes

Stop selling us short my brother. 4 years is but a drop in the ocean of time, it's not enough to make lasting changes in a complex country like Nigeria. Besides, several of those who come before have only made things worse; you need a good steady hand for a number of years.

mrvitalis:
Fairness is fairness

Why should North vote obi and wait 8 years when they can wait 4 years of tinubu and get power?

Why should Kwankwaso support obi when he would wait for 8 years when he can join tinubu and contest after 4 years

There is no guarantee that Atiku, Kwankwaso (or even PDP) will regain power without SE support, we'll just keeping voting the best man as we deem fit (Obi). If PDP wants us back into the fold, it should be 8 years, if SE can wait all these years, why can't the North wait for 8 years? Do they have two heads? It's not like that haven't ruled in this dispensation. So why should we be the ones always making concession?

8 years. PDP should be willing to wait.

mrvitalis:
Because power need to go back to North in 2023

How so? Is that according to PDP, APC, or the constitution?

Cos as far as we know, the PDP did not honour that arrangement last time, otherwise they would have supported SE for the presidency, APC does not have such in their constitution.

When SE get power it's only just and fair that they have it for 8 years. We should not shoot ourselves in the foot because we want to become 'president'.

mrvitalis:
Atiku should back obi ans Kwankwaso in 2027 if supreme Court fails to do the right thing

With obi agreeing to do one term As president

I think this would work very well

Why would you suggest Obi does one term? What kind of idea is that? I think it's defeatist.

Mynd44:
Nigerias can actually take in Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger at the same time and still maintain law and order at home

Oya na.

What are we waiting for? For them to prepare their defences and makes it harder for us?

successmatters:
Nigeria must show these people why we are giants of Africa, these Niger guys must be taught some political lessons

Lol.

Abi na. Time to teach those rag-tag Nigerien Army a Burdilon inspired political lesson.

Onyiiobi7735:
Another issue there is that Igbo speaking parts of Niger Delta are not interested in Biafra, particularly Delta and Rivers states..

When it comes to it and they choose to stay with our Ijaw brothers, all the best to them. But don't pretend to speak for them.

worksmart:
This is precisely the issue, probably we can swiftly dominate the war zone and even may restore the ousted president, then the problem beins of being bogged down in an insurgency situation that keeps us there for years haemoraging resources including our soldiers lives in a slow drip drip manner over many years.

Or we get there and find the whole thing was a set up to draw us into a war with rance -backed military juntas and the war is taken back to Nigerias territory and huge amounts , like many millions of civilian lives are lost from France bombing straegic dams that can cost millions of lives.

Restore the ousted president? How so? What stops them from shooting him in the middle of war as a 'saboteur'? If the ousted president is in exile, then you can think of restoring him. The president is in the hands of the junta. They'll just point a gun at his head and and ask the ECOWAS soldiers to back off. If the mission is to restore democracy, then that's a different task, but to restore this particular president to power, I struggle to fathom how that is possible.

In actual fighting, it would be foolish on the part of the Nigeriens to fight Nigeria headon, so I think they will prepare their defences first, and when breached resort to guerilla tactics until support from their allies. As long as they can keep Nigeria from retrieving the president from them them, they can keep the fight going. And they have willing citizens on their side.

France is not bombing any dam, the dam in on our side.

Nigeria is a war zone.

I think the Northern part of Nigeria wants to secede from Nigeria so they can be free to practice their religion as they desire, but their elite are holding them back. The people are fighting back, unfortunately it's draining national resource.

I think Nigeria need to be renegotiated. If the North and East want to leave the union, they can leave without these bloodshed. Perhap the SW and Middle Belt can remain in Nigeria. I believe the Niger Delta area should have their own country too with the exclusion of Igbo speaking area.

If Nigeria does not address all these problems, it's impossible to make progress as nation. Too many centrifugal forces and too little centripetal forces - the end is inevitable. We are wasting natural resource, money, people, and time. Nigeria is not working!

worksmart:
The way I amseeing this now is like this;

What if this is France way to set a trap for Nigeria?

France is draining Nigerien resources at an alarming rate with little benefit to this poor third world country. And are not willing to renegotiate fair price with the junta. There is no major trap here for Nigeria, except perhap blackmail of the president. As it stand, Nigeria resources, especially from southern Nigeria is also being drained at the similar rate, again with little benefit to the southern part of Nigeria. The French authority working with the British and to some extent American can simple cajole Nigeria to assist them in this venture - return control of Niger to France, and they will in turn ensure that the Nigeria ruling elite continue their straggle hold on the country resources while they look the other way.

Rub my back, I allow you to loot, and keep you in power. It's a sweet deal, only this time, the Nigeria population is savvy and Tinubu does not have popular support. So it's dicey for him.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the more he dithers, the harder the invasion becomes.

When it comes to experience and battle readiness, the Nigeria soldiers can rely on their experience fighting Boko Haram in the North, of course one cannnot allude any millitary experience to shooting unarmed civilians in the South East.

On the part of the opposition, the Nigerien have had successes and meaningful experience with battling insurgent groups. Same can be said of the Malians and lately Burkina Faso. None of these countries have been involved in any recent major war that they can draw experience from.

So I think on a tactical ground, both Nigeria, Mali, Niger, and Burkina seems to be at par. So troop size, equipment, and desire will be a driving factor. If the Nigerien population sees ECOWAS as an occupying force, a message that the junta will be aggressively promoting, then ECOWAS in in for a long ride.

My suggestion: ABORT!

I don't think there will be war. The idea has been defeated in Nigeria. And the Nigeriens has had enough time to prepare their defence.

If they haven't, they will use the period of 'negotiation' with ECOWAS to continue such defensive preparation. Niamey is quite close to Burkina Faso, so it's understandable the the Burkinababe will not want such war on their backyard, and it it will also be easy for them to mobilize troops in support of Niger.

As a matter of geography, it will be easier for the Burkina re-enforcement to reach Niamey, before the ECOWAS offensive force will get there. Even the Malian will get to Naimey before the Nigeria soldiers.


If ECOWAS, nay, Nigeria embark on this journey, it will be bloody, and messy, but ECOWAS will triumph, and sack the junta. Then then real war will begin.

If Obama can make his birth certificate public, what is Tinubu?

Tinubu, this is a very simple matter. The US is asking you if you are ready to invade Niger or not?

Just invade Niger Rep and the spilling of your secrets will be held back for a while, until you start misbehaving (again).


The danger of having a compromised individual as leader; those in the know will always use his past to arm twist him.