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Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by TAO11(f): 1:35am On Apr 01, 2021
Ekealterego:
Suicide? I have seen a lot of tantrums from these guys. I have seen one who claimed that Yorubas and Igbos who claimed that his life is being destroyed when he was presented with facts. Honestly, I do not understand this disorder.
Suicide? ahh!!! This takes the crown!
Minority complex disorder is actually a thing mehn.
LMAO! “suicide” is sarcasm. cheesy

But the first two is literal — especially the second.
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Nobody: 10:05am On Apr 01, 2021
The Oni is just a native doctor impersonating kingship.

Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Nobody: 10:17am On Apr 01, 2021
1) who was the first ooni of ife to copy the word Oba into his title: adesoji aderemi.
He also created a beaded crown as a way to copy the benin crown. (the fake crown in the picture below)

2) there is no such thing as Edo, igbo or yoruba etymology. Anybody using such as argument is either intellectually bankrupt either morally bankrupt, anyways his argument is trash.

3) the yoruba have a habbit of copying other people's cultures:

a) they first copied the word "sir" which is a mark of british nobility: ooni of ife, sir adesoji.
b) after some time they changed that borrowed word for an other borrowed word "Oba" the title of the King of benin: it then became "ooni of ife, oba adesoji"
c) adesoji also imitated the benin crown
d) the current crown worn by the ooni of ife is an imitation of a statue which was found in ife
e) the current dress of the ooni of ife is an imitation of the royal uniform of the king of the ashanti.

4) Benin has a true history, ife has fairytales.
5) benin has architecture, ife has fairytales of rambo/oduduwa dropping from the sky in egypt strait into ife with a golden parachute/chain.
6) Benin actually fought a war against britain, ife once again has fairytales of great warriors
7) Benin city got burnt into ashes, ife didn't yet no architecture, nothing to show in ife.
8 ) at this point it feels like a big insult to even dare pronounce benin and ife in the same sentence in anybody's dream.
indeed, ife remains a village, a make-belief rubbish elevated by the invaders becuase the ooni of ife was a backstabbing traitor to the cause the black race. The ooni of ife served the british instead of fighting the british, coward if you ask me.

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Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Ekealterego: 12:07am On Apr 02, 2021
Truthshots:
1) who was the first ooni of ife to copy the word Oba into his title: adesoji aderemi.
He also created a beaded crown as a way to copy the benin crown. (the fake crown in the picture below)

2) there is no such thing as Edo, igbo or yoruba etymology. Anybody using such as argument is either intellectually bankrupt either morally bankrupt, anyways his argument is trash.

3) the yoruba have a habbit of copying other people's cultures:

a) they first copied the word "sir" which is a mark of british nobility: ooni of ife, sir adesoji.
b) after some time they changed that borrowed word for an other borrowed word "Oba" the title of the King of benin: it then became "ooni of ife, oba adesoji"
c) adesoji also imitated the benin crown
d) the current crown worn by the ooni of ife is an imitation of a statue which was found in ife
e) the current dress of the ooni of ife is an imitation of the royal uniform of the king of the ashanti.

4) Benin has a true history, ife has fairytales.
5) benin has architecture, ife has fairytales of rambo/oduduwa dropping from the sky in egypt strait into ife with a golden parachute/chain.
6) Benin actually fought a war against britain, ife once again has fairytales of great warriors
7) Benin city got burnt into ashes, ife didn't yet no architecture, nothing to show in ife.
8 ) at this point it feels like a big insult to even dare pronounce benin and ife in the same sentence in anybody's dream.
indeed, ife remains a village, a make-belief rubbish elevated by the invaders becuase the ooni of ife was a backstabbing traitor to the cause the black race. The ooni of ife served the british instead of fighting the british, coward if you ask me.
How comes there are still strong Yoruba traditions in far away Cuba and Brazil? The history of blacks in Brazil endured from the 1530 and Yoruba culture have a strong influence there and people still talk about them till today. How come Benin culture is now 90 percent fairy tales and wishful thinking than actual history?
You guys should correct these trends in fake history, people are now looking at you as clowns and that makes a ridicule of all your great king have actually achieved.

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Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by gregyboy(m): 8:06am On Apr 02, 2021
TAO11 been trying to link her imaginary ife history to benin since 300bc....


All for what, her deceitful mental satisfaction

Its always gonna be TAO11 in this madness her reasonable brothers have all seen the truth and stepped back, but Tao disorders won't allow her be,
Anytime you have something new, come foward and bring it, instead of whining and drawing consultation from your fellow brothers,


Drop something new, make sure what you drop won't later be against you like the name of lagos
Ekoname


And be aware people all around are viewing this thread especially royals from benins who may also have this believe as you do, so all weight on you, to prove them right,
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Obalufon: 2:31pm On Apr 15, 2021
gregyboy:
TAO11 been trying to link her imaginary ife history to benin since 300bc....


All for what, her deceitful mental satisfaction

Its always gonna be TAO11 in this madness her reasonable brothers have all seen the truth and stepped back, but Tao disorders won't allow her be,
Anytime you have something new, come foward and bring it, instead of whining and drawing consultation from your fellow brothers,


Drop something new, make sure what you drop won't later be against you like the name of lagos
Ekoname


And be aware people all around are viewing this thread especially royals from benins who may also have this believe as you do, so all weight on you, to prove them right,
ibo or edo boy still here ranting rubbish
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by 0m0nnakoda: 2:20pm On Mar 16, 2023
So Onitsha is not Ibo
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Sizwezi: 4:43pm On Mar 16, 2023
0m0nnakoda:
So Onitsha is not Ibo


Go and sleep 😴
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by christistruth01: 6:43pm On Mar 16, 2023
0m0nnakoda:
So Onitsha is not Ibo

Onitsha is even from the Yoruba word Oritsha
There was an idol they used to visit around there in the Past

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Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by 0m0nnakoda: 7:06pm On Mar 16, 2023
christistruth01:


Onitsha is even from the Yoruba word Oritsha
There was an idol they used to visit around there in the Past

Exactly
We have been saying it for a long time

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Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by RedboneSmith(m): 8:13pm On Mar 16, 2023
christistruth01:


Onitsha is even from the Yoruba word Oritsha
There was an idol they used to visit around there in the Past

Lol. Nairalanders and talking what they don't know. Olisa or Orisa or Olise is the version of your Orisha used among Igbo-speaking groups. The same people cannot render Orisha as Olisa, and then go ahead and render it again as Onicha, in one and the same community. It makes no logical or linguistic sense.

Onicha (Onitsha) is an unrelated word, with no equivalent in your language. And Onicha is a common place-name throughout the Igbo-speaking areas. From Enugu to Ebonyi to Abia to Imo, there is no part or the southeast that does not have towns, communities and villages called Onicha. It is an Igbo concept through and through.

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Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Sizwezi: 9:09pm On Mar 16, 2023
christistruth01:


Onitsha is even from the Yoruba word Oritsha
There was an idol they used to visit around there in the Past



😂. Tao wey be Una Oga, nor go even yan this kind thing
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Sizwezi: 9:12pm On Mar 16, 2023
RedboneSmith:


Lol. Nairalanders and talking what they don't know. Olisa or Orisa or Olise is the version of your Orisha used among Igbo-speaking groups. The same people cannot render Orisha as Olisa, and then go ahead and render it again as Onicha, in one and the same community. It makes no logical or linguistic sense.

Onicha (Onitsha) is an unrelated word, with no equivalent in your language. And Onicha is a common place-name throughout the Igbo-speaking areas. From Enugu to Ebonyi to Abia to Imo, there is no part or the southeast that does not have towns, communities and villages called Onicha. It is an Igbo concept through and through.




💯
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by christistruth01: 9:37pm On Mar 16, 2023
Sizwezi:




😂. Tao wey be Una Oga, nor go even yan this kind thing

Ok what does Onitsha mean in Igbo
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by christistruth01: 9:48pm On Mar 16, 2023
RedboneSmith:


Lol. Nairalanders and talking what they don't know. Olisa or Orisa or Olise is the version of your Orisha used among Igbo-speaking groups. The same people cannot render Orisha as Olisa, and then go ahead and render it again as Onicha, in one and the same community. It makes no logical or linguistic sense.

Onicha (Onitsha) is an unrelated word, with no equivalent in your language. And Onicha is a common place-name throughout the Igbo-speaking areas. From Enugu to Ebonyi to Abia to Imo, there is no part or the southeast that does not have towns, communities and villages called Onicha. It is an Igbo concept through and through.


The Itsekiri people were one of the Biggest Traders with Onitsha and they still call Orisha Orisha

The Itsekiri are Yoruba Speakers and Itsekiri is a Yoruba dialect


By the way what does Onicha mean in Igbo
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by RedboneSmith(m): 3:24am On Mar 17, 2023
christistruth01:



The Itsekiri people were one of the Biggest Traders with Onitsha and they still call Orisha Orisha

The Itsekiri are Yoruba Speakers and Itsekiri is a Yoruba dialect


By the way what does Onicha mean in Igbo

First, what is your evidence that the Itsekiri were one of the biggest traders with Onitsha? Can you cite any literature to buttress that? Trade along the Niger was heavily regimented. Aboh controlled the trade of the Lower Niger between Aboh and Onitsha. We have no record of Itsekiri going beyond Aboh to trade with Onitsha. Itsekiri confined itself to trading in the Niger Delta. If you have any evidence of them going to Onitsha in any significant number before European colonisation of the latter part of the 19th century, then present it. Otherwise, I'll assume you're making things up.

Second, in Onitsha they already use 'Olisa' to refer to what the Itsekiris call Oritse. If the name of their town comes from this word 'Orisha/Oritse', then the town would have been called Olisa and not Onicha. Again, it does not make any sense to suggest that Onitsha could have corrupted one word twice and used both corruptions (Olisa and Onicha) simultaneously.

Third, Onitsha is a relatively young town, only established at the height of Benin's imperial expansion. Yet deep in the east, far away from Onitsha and Itsekiri, there are many communities called Onicha, which are probably even older than Onitsha . It is there in Enugu-Ezike in the northernmost extremity of Igboland. It is there deep in Ngwa land on the border with the Annang. Was it Onitsha and Itsekiri that went there and established those places? Onitsha that couldn't extend its influence past Obosi and Ogidi in precolonial times? At the very least understand the geography and history of the Igbo before trying to pontificate on them.

The etymology of Onicha is complex and has an entire back story to it. It is tangential to this discussion. The important thing to know is that it bears no relation to Orisha/Oritse/Olisa/whatever.
Re: Why Onitsha Is Not An Igboland, It Belongs To Benins by Olu317(m): 8:58pm On Mar 17, 2023
christistruth01:


Onitsha is even from the Yoruba word Oritsha
There was an idol they used to visit around there in the Past
Which one is there is an Ido they use to worship there ? These Yoruba Christ followers sef can be quite funny.

So, if I am Òrìṣàdámíláre then it means "idol has vindicated me" or "idol created me without accusation ? "

On a serious note,please Orìṣà is not idol in anyway. Having clarify this, I am enjoying/learning the discussion over the etymology of Onitsha or Onitcha.

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