Vickyvice:
Orogun and Abby share same boundary, am orogun, my wife is from Abby. She speaks uroboh, and I speak ukwuani. But we identify with our place any time any day

but abbi people don't speak Urhobo unless she grew up in Urhobo axis?

Idiko1:


I really do not believe the bolded statement. Which of them will qualify as a bona fide part of Republic of Igbo land?

Stop distracting this thread with useless online biafra gibberish...


you Igbos should limit that nnamdi kanus stupidity to his facebook and twitter page.

Sufferingboy:


No I agree that in every 10 crimes committed by nigerians,9 are committed by igbos.

This might appear so but in reality it is not the case, i'll explain the Igbo's pay a heavy price for all these Igbo groups with Igbophobia this is because when a crime is committed by an Ika, Ukwani, Ikwerre, Agbor person or any other Igbophobic groups no one ask if it is Ika, Ukwani, Ikwerre or Agbor that committed the crime. What they see is one bearing an Igbo name and speaking Igbo language and they are quick to assume these crimes are committed by Igbo's.

Igbo's however gladly plays the big brother roles and accepts these tags caused by Igbo groups with identity crisis. So my friend don't revel in your ignorance those crimes are committed by your people with identity crisis, bearing Igbo names and speaking the Igbo language, I must add here however that these Igbophobic Igbo groups are however more notorious in crime than any group in the country not to talk of mainland Igbo's who are pure business men...

Insight; Agbor-Ika axis are notorious for 419 the most notorious 419ners ever recorded or existent in Nigeria were from here.

Ukwani, notorious for cultivation and sales of hard drugs, most Igbo drug drug dealers paraded by Nafdac are from here.

Ikwerre, notorious for militancy, cultism, armed robbery and thuggery, it is unrivaled their only competition will come from other minority groups in SS.

So calm down and stop making a fool of yourself Igbo's only play big brother role by not denying these Igbophobic Igbo's who bear our names and speak our language and hide under the guise to commit unthinkable crimes.

afonjaheadhunts:


This might appear so but in reality it is not the case, i'll explain the Igbo's pay a heavy price for all these Igbo groups with Igbophobia this is because when a crime is committed by an Ika, Ukwani, Ikwerre, Agbor person or any other Igbophobic groups no one ask if it is Ika, Ukwani, Ikwerre or Agbor that committed the crime. What they see is one bearing an Igbo name and speaking Igbo language and they are quick to assume these crimes are committed by Igbo's.

Igbo's however gladly plays the big brother roles and accepts these tags caused by Igbo groups with identity crisis. So my friend don't revel in your ignorance those crimes are committed by your people with identity crisis, bearing Igbo names and speaking the Igbo language, I must add here however that these Igbophobic Igbo groups are however more notorious in crime than any group in the country not to talk of mainland Igbo's who are pure business men...

Insight; Agbor-Ika axis are notorious for 419 the most notorious 419ners ever recorded or existent in Nigeria were from here.

Ukwani, notorious for cultivation and sales of hard drugs, most Igbo drug drug dealers paraded by Nafdac are from here.

Ikwerre, notorious for militancy, cultism, armed robbery and thuggery, it is unrivaled their only competition will come from other minority groups in SS.

So calm down and stop making a fool of yourself Igbo's only play big brother role by not denying these Igbophobic Igbo's who bear our names and speak our language and hide under the guise to commit unthinkable crimes.

Yes,Ikas,Ndokwa and Ikwerre are the ones in asian prisons for drug trafficking.Right?

Abike dabiri called anambra people for drug trafficking in asia.

The other time anambra youth were protesting against ritual killing,igbos are well know for blood money,pounding of new born babies for money rituals.

Who do 419 reach igbos?
Manufacturing and importation of fake and substandard goods is done by which tribe? Igbos.

Igbos and 419 be like bread and butter.

Fooolishbuharri:


Bro na Orere-Okpe you be or Okpara Urhobo? Because your translations are deep and a bit different from the norm.

I believe that's Ughelli or the common spoken Urhobo that guy meant by the name Lol! The beauty in our oneness sometimes lies in the ambiguity of our language.

At the bolded, I am from Okpara inland, Ethiope-East LGA

Sufferingboy:


Yes,Ikas,Ndokwa and Ikwerre are the ones in asian prisons for drug trafficking.Right?

Abike dabiri called anambra people for drug trafficking in asia.

The other time anambra youth were protesting against ritual killing,igbos are well know for blood money,pounding of new born babies for money rituals.

Who do 419 reach igbos?
Manufacturing and importation of fake and substandard goods is done by which tribe? Igbos.

Igbos and 419 be like bread and butter.

You have an evil agenda to cause division amongst people living for ages in peace and harmony. Orogun share boundary with Abbi and Ammai so its not surprising majority of them speak Ukwuani language. Stop your Igbo hatred as it will do you no good. As a typical Ukwuani man I can tell u authoritatively that our ties to Igbo are crystal clear even for the blind to see. From names, culture, language and everything u can think of so stop spreading hate and preach love as there is too much hate already and that needs to change.

Igboid:


Common sense is obviously not common anymore.
Efe or whoever that is founder of Orogun doesn't have any relationship beyond inter marriage with Umukwata.
You don't need any distorted oral history to know this, common sense should tell you that.

In the past when you marry from a place and want to establish a new settlement, it is not uncommon to invite your in-laws to come and live with your new family to provide security in numbers.
This was how it used to be in the time past.
This was how the relationship between Orogun and Ukwuani came about.
They(Ukwuani) were and have always been distinct people from Urhobos with distinct language, names and world view.

I know what you Edoids are up to with your subtle historical distortions.

Efi means cow and has nothing to do with Efe like I told you.
There are even alternate history that suggests that Orogun founder was indeed an Igboid speaking Ukwuani man and not an Urhobo man.
The only way Amai, Umukwata and Orogun would have blood relationship is if the above version of the history is right.
Which would eventually make Orogun a traditionally Igboid town that got overrun by Edoids. It would also explain why traditional ruler of Orogun goes by the Igboid title of Okpara uku and not Ovie, and why the community that produces the Okpara uku in Orogun have the ancient Igbo trademark of "Umu" prefix for naming placest, in Orogun case, the village that produces the Okpara uku of the town is called Umusu.

It wouldn't be the first in the region. Afterall we know that the founders of Igbide, an Isoko speaking town today, were also originally Igbo speaking people.
We even see this in the encroachment of Isoko speakers into Igbo speaking communities in Ndokwa East which has led to land disputes in those places recently.

You as an Edoid man who if dropped in Ukwuani land cannot communicate with the locals without Pidgin English, cannot accuse a proud Igbo man like myself whose ancestors imprints in UKWUANI land( which means I can safely land in Ukwuani land and hold a reasonable conversation with the people by just using central Igbo language), of interference in Ukwuani matters. You as an Urhobo cannot claim to have more rights to intervene on Ukwuani discussions than me.

You are so knowledgeable man. Don't let the opinion of one or two people you see on this forum make you hate your brothers in Ukwuani or any other Anioma group. I am an Ukwuani man born and bred and I can tell you that anyone denying his Igboness as an Ukwuani man is in self deceit because all the evidences are there for anyone to see. Ukwuani don't have any problem with other Igbo brothers so you know from today, go to Kwale town a lot of Igbos are investing heavily there now and its a fact. Let me tell you also that marriage between Ukwuani and the larger Igbo communities is on the very high side now. Please don't hate your people because a few people that may never have lived in Ukwuani land are saying something negative about Igbos. Ukwuani is proudly Anioma and Anioma is proudly Igbo. Thank you.

Neobulletzz:

At the bolded, I am from Okpara inland, Ethiope-East LGA

I think we speak same type of Urhobo then. Maybe with a little variations but it's basically same

Fooolishbuharri:


I think we speak same type of Urhobo then. Maybe with a little variations but it's basically same

Lol I am just hearing this, Urhobo get different types??

Neobulletzz:

Lol I am just hearing this, Urhobo get different types??

Yes oh Lol. Okpe Urhobo different like mad. You may pick one or two as they converse though but it's difficult. Okpara is same with ughelli the. Sometimes ehn the mata dey confused me sef

Boss20:
You are so knowledgeable man. Don't let the opinion of one or two people you see on this forum make you hate your brothers in Ukwuani or any other Anioma group. I am an Ukwuani man born and bred and I can tell you that anyone denying his Igboness as an Ukwuani man is in self deceit because all the evidences are there for anyone to see. Ukwuani don't have any problem with other Igbo brothers so you know from today, go to Kwale town a lot of Igbos are investing heavily there now and its a fact. Let me tell you also that marriage between Ukwuani and the larger Igbo communities is on the very high side now. Please don't hate your people because a few people that may never have lived in Ukwuani land are saying something negative about Igbos. Ukwuani is proudly Anioma and Anioma is proudly Igbo. Thank you.

What part of Ukwuani are you from? I am surprised @Nwanyiogwashi is not here to beat up this sufferingboy as usual.

Sufferingboy:


Yes,Ikas,Ndokwa and Ikwerre are the ones in asian prisons for drug trafficking.Right?

Abike dabiri called anambra people for drug trafficking in asia.

The other time anambra youth were protesting against ritual killing,igbos are well know for blood money,pounding of new born babies for money rituals.

Who do 419 reach igbos?
Manufacturing and importation of fake and substandard goods is done by which tribe? Igbos.

Igbos and 419 be like bread and butter.

True to your words, yes, it is Agbor, Ikas, Ikwerre, Ukwani that make up those numbers in Asian cells and prison, when you start answering Benin or Uhrobo names and speaking their language it will not be hard for you to figure this out, hence the reason they are paraded as Igbo's.

Abike has said many things and proved non, she is no different from lai Mohamed propagating lies is their agenda, the same Abike supervised the release of a hausa-fulani who was caught red handed with hard drugs in Saudi Arabia, this is the person you want me to take seriously. No that would be double standards.

Speaking of Anambra my home, China Approach the Anambra state government to build a Chinese consul/ embassy in Anambra because Igbo/Anambra has the highest number of business men doing business in China, Also Anambra students beat China, America and other foreign students in international competitions and repeated the feat, did Abike Announce this too?. Indeed Igbo's and Anambrarians are giant not just in this contraption but on the world stage.

Blood money? You must be watching too much epic movie I won't even comment on that.. don't you like money? Go and do your own blood money now abi you don't want to be rich like Elon Musk too?

419 is foreign to Igbo's, those who indulge in it are the Igbophobic Agbor and Ika people. As for manufacturing Igbo's manufacture affordable products locally and you buy them because you are to broke to buy the expensive ones imported by Igbo business men. How is that a problem let alone the Igbo mans problem?

419 and Igbo's should not be in the same sentence except you are refering to Agbor and Ika as Igbo's?

All these arguments are in futility cause most of those arguing are either Southeasterners or Urhobo. If you understand Igbo language you will of course understand Ukwuani so every Igbo should watch this video by official Ukwuani youtube channel and see that majority of Ukwuani consider themselves 100% Igbos both in dressing, language and affiliation. The minority migrants from Bini accomodated by original founders cannot distort the clear history and ethnicity of the people. Oya let's hear from Ndi Ukwuani


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd6CjBQ1rgE

Ishilove:

Very true

You are many things but intelligent. A well-known mentally unstable guy whose entire existence is based on hating Ndokwa and Igbos created another thread to push his weird obsession, and of course, you sided with him... You are probably 20 years older than Nwanyiogwashi, but definitely not on the same level.
Your discerning ability is almost childlike.

Ekealterego:

You are many things but intelligent. A well-known mentally unstable guy whose entire existence is based on hating Ndokwa and Igbos created another thread to push his weird obsession, and of course, you sided with him... You are probably 20 years older than Nwanyiogwashi, but definitely not on the same level.
Your discerning ability is almost childlike.

How very flattering! Are you saying I view the world through rose tinted glasses of an innocent child?? That my heart is as pure as a new born babe's?













The rats keep coming out of their holes to quote me. Mscheeeew.

Ekealterego:

What part of Ukwuani are you from? I am surprised @Nwanyiogwashi is not here to beat up this sufferingboy as usual.

Sufferingboy is running away from nwanyiogwashi

Abagworo:
All these arguments are in futility cause most of those arguing are either Southeasterners or Urhobo. If you understand Igbo language you will of course understand Ukwuani so every Igbo should watch this video by official Ukwuani youtube channel and see that majority of Ukwuani consider themselves 100% Igbos both in dressing, language and affiliation. The minority migrants from Bini accomodated by original founders cannot distort the clear history and ethnicity of the people. Oya let's hear from Ndi Ukwuani


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd6CjBQ1rgE

Ukwuani language is Igbo language, no difference.

Ishilove:

How very flattering! Are you saying I view the world through rose tinted glasses of an innocent child?? That my heart is as pure as a new born babe's?



The rats keep coming out of their holes to quote me. Mscheeeew.

It is even funnier that you couldn't catch the veiled euphemism.

Pass11:
Sufferingboy is running away from nwanyiogwashi

NwanyiOgwashi is his greatest nemesis. The mentally unstable Bini boy had to run away from this forum and changed his sex to female because of NwanyiOgwashi.

Abagworo:
All these arguments are in futility cause most of those arguing are either Southeasterners or Urhobo. If you understand Igbo language you will of course understand Ukwuani so every Igbo should watch this video by official Ukwuani youtube channel and see that majority of Ukwuani consider themselves 100% Igbos both in dressing, language and affiliation. The minority migrants from Bini accomodated by original founders cannot distort the clear history and ethnicity of the people. Oya let's hear from Ndi Ukwuani


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd6CjBQ1rgE

case closed

Ishilove:

How very flattering! Are you saying I view the world through rose tinted glasses of an innocent child?? That my heart is as pure as a new born babe's?













The rats keep coming out of their holes to quote me. Mscheeeew.

You're indeed dumb and unintelligent as he posited because if you had any atom of sense at all, you would know that his mention about your reasoning being like a child implies that you should not be caught dead or alive or with a long pole, in any reasonable discuss with adults

You should be playing in the sand with your supposed pure heart and build yourself a befitting sand castle while your parents tell you the history of how you're modern day Uhrobo second class wannabe.

PHijo:


No, I think you are getting it wrong!
The issue was not the deputy governor, the issue was Dickson's high handedness, personal ambition and the way former president Jonathan was treated

read it again you will see my position.
I quoted efewestern but my post started from"@efewestern this is a reply to the above"

Looking at these 2 images alone should address the issue of ethnicity then language solidifies it. Okoro bu Okoro

Greeting in Ukwuani Igbo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFETd6tzypU

Sufferingboy:


Which kind comment be this?

This na very serious thing we dey happen now,in next 50years they will become Ndokwa completely.

Awusa-afonja, is it ur business??

Sufferingboy:


Thanks you for your contribution,I like the way you stated your point without insult like our brothers(developers) from congo�.

But orogun people should hold urhobo culture tight.

Awusa-afonjaaaaa..

Ur true color is out

Gambit23 [hr:
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Awusa-afonja, is it ur business??

Stop mentioning me,you dey crase?

Igboid:


When Ezeh Obi Ossai was telling the British that his Aboh kingdom people were Eboes and that he Eze Ossai was the king of all Eboes, no Igbo man have even met with the British.
Lol!
I wonder who is forcing whatever identity on anyone.

You can change your identity today. It is well within your rights and should be respected.

But you must also recognize that shared history should remain sacrosanct and that one party doesn't have the right to change shared history without the other objecting.
Ukwuani can stop being Igbo and start being Hausa , Urhobo or whatever they want. No Igbo man gives a dead rat. Not me atleast.
But what you can't do is start claiming that anyone forced your ancestors to accept they were of same stock with the people you call Igbos today and that they were same people too.
You can stop being Igbo, but you will not be allowed to denature the above history without resistance from us. You should not mistake our resistance for us forcing you to be Igbo. Get over yourselves, you are not that important . We are merely setting the records right.

When Obi Ossai declared himself the king of all Eboes he actually meant the king of all Abohs in todays sense. The people today known as Abohs were called Eboes in the time of Obi Ossai, infact, today the Aboh people still pronounce their town and tribe as Eboe. With time, the name Eboe has gradually become Aboh to outsiders and is being accepted by the locals. A clear proof of this is the people of Ebo-Orogun who clearly migrated from Aboh to their present location. Til date they call themselves Eboe and not Aboh. This is because they have maintained the original name, Eboe.
So when Obi Ossai rightly declared himself as the king of all Eboes, he did not mean the king of all the people identified today as Igbos

Fooolishbuharri:


You said we PREFER acting as Ukwani people and I take an exception to that! Then about young people speaking Ukwani more, that's also a pure blatant lie too; except those persons grew up in Orogun, or the parents speak it at home alot, because It's usually the older ones who speak more of Ukwani as most of them grew up at Orogun.

Case study being me; I speak only Urhobo, but my parents are very fluent in Ukwani language, my grandparents too. But I wasn't raised up speaking Ukwani, probably because I didn’t grow up in Orogun and my parents only use it to communicate amongst themselves.

Perhaps you're making a honest observation and not one of those mischievous generalizations I may not know, but I hope I've been able to educate you on the topic.

do you know that Orogun people are undeniably from Aboh in present day Ndokwa-East?

Sufferingboy:
I have notice something alarming among the urhobos of orogun and it is something very serious.

They are turning to Ukwuani in mass,though some will still tell you they are urhobo by culture but prefer speaking and acting as Ukwuani people.

Few days ago,a friend of mine from that area was speaking ukwuani and saying they grew up learning ukwuani language and prefer to speak it.

Have you noticed it?

what should alarm you is the Orogun people abandoning their original Eboe language for Urhobo. It is very sad that Nigerians do not have curious minds enough to study their history. Have you ever asked youself why the Orogun people speak the Eboe language. Orogun people I know communicate among themselves in Eboe dialect and only speak Urhobo when they communicate with other Urhobo people.
The infinite truth is that Eboe is their first language and this is because they migrated from Eboe(which today is called Aboh). The Orogun Ebo dialect is closer to the Aboh language than Ukwuani language

Ukwuani masquerade Ashaka


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgloJN1mlB0

Ihiala masquerade Anambra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CtQi9d60ZI

Oguta masquerade Imo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxmcXJKjwsE

Ogbaru masquerade Anambra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iDggWkBL6Q

Ihioma masquerade Imo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkkRWuzwplM

Unubi masquerade Anambra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rb93R-NeWs

Ase masquerade Imo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNfiLLE1fOQ

Efewestern:


Efe is known as Efi in Ukwuani, Ishi, to be sincere, I can't really say if Efe/Efi was an Urhobo or Ukwuani man, but the Efi character married an Ughelli woman whose descendants formed the Orogun kingdom. The fact accepted by all communities is that, Orogun, Abbi, Amai and Umukwata all came from the same source. I believe Umukwata was the eldest.

You can inquire more from your family and educate some of us, we are willing to learn.

Efe is bini according to account from the Ovie of Ughelli

Neobulletzz:

Efewestern abeg just help me with the meaning of this name EFEJEVWIE in English

You mean efejevwe
Means I love wealth