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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 11:08am On May 11
Ishilove:

All the Orogun people I know speak Ukwuani and you won't know they are Urhobos unless they tell you. Case in point my neighbor married to an Ukwuani man from Okwele. It is after she died that my parents told me she is an Orogun woman.

Exactly and as I said earlier, it's usually the older generation who grew up in at Orogun who know the language alot. None of my siblings or cousins speak ukwuani but all my aunts and uncles do. This particular lady probably grew up at Orogun or her parents were mixed thus, being married to an Ukwuani man of course would make them speak predominantly Ukwuani in their home.

My dad and mum are from Orogun, but they speak Ukwuani fluently because they grew up in town and their parents spoke the language. If my mom married an Ukwuani man, I'd probably not know a thing in Urhobo if Ukwuani was the only language spoken at home. it boils down to the fact that we are intertwined though. We've always been very close with Ukwuani people.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 11:08am On May 11
topboss:



I THINK SAY U BE URHOBO.

THIS IS DEFINATELY A FULANI.
Lmao. You don catch am. Im been dey deceive people say im be Ika but im cover done blow now. Wetin concern am if Orogun people like to speak Ukwuani? Wetin be im business for the area wey no get any problem? Na only evil people no like make people live in peace.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 11:10am On May 11
Fejoku:

Lmao. You don catch am. Im been dey deceive people say im be Ika but im cover done blow now. Wetin concern am if Orogun people like to speak Ukwuani? Wetin be im business for the area wey no get any problem? Na only evil people no like make people live in peace.

Ur mumu dey shame me.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by SmartPolician: 11:12am On May 11
Ishilove:

Okay... Acculturisation has been since time immemorial. No big deal

Beta student!

I did that in my year One: Social Science 1&2

In Year One, I did a bunch of courses that had no business with why I was in school grin

BTW, I heard that the corpses of Urhobo women are often buried in their paternal homes when they die...even if they were married. That clause is disturbing and ought to be expunged.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 11:14am On May 11
Sufferingboy:


Ur mumu dey shame me.
Make them comot you for dat monthly payment make hunger finish you finally. Ordinary undercover job you no fit do. Na wetin else you go fit come do? Your numbness no get equal. See as you dey pour saliva everywhere. Comot for road low i.q terrorist.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 11:14am On May 11
Fejoku:

I like the way use put the sentence together. Orogun and Amai joined hands and crushed the invaders. Quash them like the bedbugs that they are.
No room for divide and rule down South.

Yeah because it's what happened. We are very much intertwined and what affects the Ukwani man affects the Orogun man too.

We are more stubborn being that the average Orogun man, has a heart of stone when he wants and doesn't take kindly to being intimidated. Senator Omo-Agege should give you more insight about us and he speaks Ukwuani too BTW. The Amai people know this and it's rubbed off on them too.

Our Ogbu back, never touch ground before in history you can research it. Lol
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 11:17am On May 11
topboss:



NATURALLY, WITH THE KIND CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP BEING ENJOYED THERE, I WILL BE SURPRISE IF THE UKWANI DID NOT SPEAK OR UNDERSTAND OROGUN.


OP, IS OUT TO DISTURB THE PEACE IN THAT AREA.


THAT IS HOW IT STARTS, FROM GOSSIP BEFORE U KNOW IT, SUSPICION GO ENTER, BEFORE CASALA GO BURST.


MATTER GO ENTER ANYWHERE BELLE FACE.

Which is why when we see such agenda and propaganda, we have a duty to immediately puncture it because of left un-debunked it will soon be truth to strangers and before you know it, the narrative is tainted

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 11:18am On May 11
Fooolishbuharri:


Yeah because it's what happened. We are very much intertwined and what affects the Ukwani man affects the Orogun man too.

We are more stubborn being that the average Orogun man, has a heart of stone when he wants and doesn't take kindly to being intimidated. Senator Omo-Agege should give you more insight about us and he speaks Ukwuani too BTW. The Amai people know this and it's rubbed off on them too.

Our Ogbu back, never touch ground before in history you can research it. Lol
Na so e suppose be. Don't give any room for snakes to penetrate come cause problem for una.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 11:22am On May 11
SmartPolician:


Beta student!

I did that in my year One: Social Science 1&2

In Year One, I did a bunch of courses that had no business with why I was in school grin

BTW, I heard that the corpses of Urhobo women are often buried in their paternal homes when they die...even if they were married. That clause is disturbing and ought to be expunged.
This old tradition is common among lots of groups around the river Niger even among my own clan east of the Niger river. Today however, it is no longer in practice.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Waterysperm: 11:33am On May 11
That guy (Op) is a paid Fulani Urchin. I know him very well. He owns about two other monikers on this forum causing trouble among Southerners. Majority of them are here bearing Igbo names, some Yoruba names, while some attach southern towns or identities to their names. Some equally attach Jesus to their names to make you think they are Christians and Southerners, my people do not be deceived. They are from Futa Jalon trying to use their Taqqiya on us but they have failed already and will continue to fail.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 11:33am On May 11
SmartPolician:


Beta student!

I did that in my year One: Social Science 1&2

In Year One, I did a bunch of courses that had no business with why I was in school grin

BTW, I heard that the corpses of Urhobo women are often buried in their paternal homes when they die...even if they were married. That clause is disturbing and ought to be expunged.

At the bolded, I don't know where you've seen this happen but I can emphatically say no! It's not like that. In the Urhobo tradition, when a man marries a woman, she becomes "his property". So his land becomes hers. So this can only happen if the husband didn’t marry her properly, or her family never gave consent- at least for the cases I've seen, except the woman is a titled woman in her home soil. I will give you an example.

My great grandfather was from Orogun and was the Okpara-Ukwu (oldest man) before he passed many years ago. His wife from Amai, went on to live up to over a hundred years and she was the Onwai of Amai. At her passing, she was first brought to her husband's house/land, some part of the celebrations were done there as custom demands, thereafter she was taken to be buried at her home in Amai.

Why was this? A titled woman especially an Onwai isn't deemed a "woman" per say anymore but a "man" who's a mother of the community. So at her passing she comes to rest in the land she led during her life time.

Modified: Now put it in contrast. Her son, my grandfather, also married a woman (my grandmother) from Amai. But at her passing, she was buried at Orogun in her husband's house. I hope it's not too complicated the way I explained it Lol
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by SmartPolician: 11:53am On May 11
Fooolishbuharri:


At the bolded, I don't know where you've seen this happen but I can emphatically say no! It's not like that. In the Urhobo tradition, when a man marries a woman, she becomes "his property". So his land becomes hers. So this can only happen if the husband didn’t marry her properly, or her family never gave consent- at least for the cases I've seen, except the woman is a titled woman in her home soil. I will give you an example.

My great grandfather was from Orogun and was the Okpara-Ukwu (oldest man) before he passed many years ago. His wife from Amai, went on to live up to over a hundred years and she was the Onwai of Amai. At her passing, she was first brought to her husband's house/land, some part of the celebrations were done there as custom demands, thereafter she was taken to be buried at her home in Amai.

Why was this? A titled woman especially an Onwai isn't deemed a "woman" per say anymore but a "man" who's a mother of the community. So at her passing she comes to rest in the land she led during her life time.

Modified: Now put it in contrast. Her son, my grandfather, also married a woman (my grandmother) from Amai. But at her passing, she was buried at Orogun in her husband's house. I hope it's not too complicated the way I explained it Lol

I don't know so much about all the tribes in Delta State, but I know an Urhobo girl it happened to. She told me it's their tradition. Ask core Urhobo people; they should know. I didn't make that up.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 11:56am On May 11
Sufferingboy:


Thank you for this comment,my friend from orogun dey speak ukwuani and understand am why me Ika person still dey struggle to learn ukwuani.
Do Ika people speak Ukwuani? Their variation of the language is hard to follow.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 11:58am On May 11
SmartPolician:


Beta student!

I did that in my year One: Social Science 1&2

In Year One, I did a bunch of courses that had no business with why I was in school grin

BTW, I heard that the corpses of Urhobo women are often buried in their paternal homes when they die...even if they were married. That clause is disturbing and ought to be expunged.
It is not disturbing. That is also the culture in my side of Ukwuani land. The belief is we are only lending you the woman and in death she returns to her father's house.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by SmartPolician: 12:02pm On May 11
Ishilove:

It is not disturbing. That is also the culture in my side of Ukwuani land. The belief is we are only lending you the woman and in death she returns to her father's house.

Fooolishbuharri

You need to see this.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 12:02pm On May 11
SmartPolician:


I don't know so much about all the tribes in Delta State, but I know an Urhobo girl it happened to. She told me it's their tradition. Ask core Urhobo people; they should know. I didn't make that up.

Perhaps... after all, everywhere have their peculiarities. But if you dug deeper, you may see the reasons I attached could be the cause and even if I can't know everything, Orogun people are among the core Urhobos; Well we all are and an Urhobo man be it from Okpara or okpe is a brother to me any day anytime.

God bless the Urhobo nation, God bless a united south. May all her enemies be destroyed by their ploys. Isé

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 12:03pm On May 11
Fooolishbuharri:


Exactly and as I said earlier, it's usually the older generation who grew up in at Orogun who know the language alot. None of my siblings or cousins speak ukwuani but all my aunts and uncles do. This particular lady probably grew up at Orogun or her parents were mixed thus, being married to an Ukwuani man of course would make them speak predominantly Ukwuani in their home.

My dad and mum are from Orogun, but they speak Ukwuani fluently because they grew up in town and their parents spoke the language. If my mom married an Ukwuani man, I'd probably not know a thing in Urhobo if Ukwuani was the only language spoken at home. it boils down to the fact that we are intertwined though. We've always been very close with Ukwuani people.
When I was younger I thought Orogun is part of Ndokwa west grin
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 12:04pm On May 11
Fooolishbuharri:


Perhaps... after all, everywhere have their peculiarities. But if you dug deeper, you may see the reasons I attached could be the cause and even if I can't know everything, Orogun people are among the core Urhobos; Well we all are and an Urhobo man be it from Okpara or okpe is a brother to me any day anytime.

God bless the Urhobo nation, God bless a united south. May all her enemies be destroyed by their ploys. Isé
Ofu obi! cheesy

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 12:04pm On May 11
SmartPolician:


Fooolishbuharri

You need to see this.
Yeah seen. Different strokes for different folks I believe. In all, God bless us all
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 12:07pm On May 11
Ishilove:

When I was younger I thought Orogun is part of Ndokwa west grin

grin grin I even thought Amai was a part of Orogun back then too. Good old days.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by IDENNAA(m): 12:08pm On May 11
SlayerForever:
Shouldn't be a big deal. Urhobo, Isoko, Ika and Ndokwa are the same thing.

But when it gets to politics you suddenly remember they are different and that an Uhrobo man must have his turn...lmao. Brotherhood of convenience init.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 12:09pm On May 11
Ishilove:

Ofu obi! cheesy
cheesy
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by GBOKASINCHA(m): 12:18pm On May 11
Ishilove:

Ofu obi! cheesy
why do u benin deltas always like to speak igbo yet claim u re not igbo why cant u guys organize a meeting and generate ur own languages.....and traditions why copy igbo traditions? Or better still speak bini nobody will disturb u
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by IDENNAA(m): 12:29pm On May 11
GBOKASINCHA:
why do u benin deltas always like to speak igbo yet claim u re not igbo why cant u guys organize a meeting and generate ur own languages.....and traditions why copy igbo traditions? Or better still speak bini nobody will disturb u

This is not necessary. But don't worry aku fesia odalu awo. It's either the prodigal son returns or he will die a nonentity!

"Ofu obi" with a non Igbo speaking group but disunity with your own brethren is nothing but exercise in futility. When election comes around there is never "ofu obi."

I have Igbo Delta in-laws who is a politician and also on appointment and NO there is no "ofu obi" with Uhrobo. This , however, is a common knowledge.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by FreeIgbos: 12:48pm On May 11
GBOKASINCHA:
why do u benin deltas always like to speak igbo yet claim u re not igbo why cant u guys organize a meeting and generate ur own languages.....and traditions why copy igbo traditions? Or better still speak bini nobody will disturb u

I don't know why some of us (that's if you're truly Igbo) lack diplomacy. I was enjoying the discussion here and learning about tribes in Delta until you made this unfortunate and unreasonable statement. How did you conclude that the person you quoted denies being Igbo? I have seen many Igbos west of the Niger that are proud of their heritage even though there are still some misguided ones.

I'm happy that Southerners are beginning to unite so we can better fight an enemy threatening all of us. Let's encourage that spirit of togetherness.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 12:49pm On May 11
Ishilove:

Do Ika people speak Ukwuani? Their variation of the language is hard to follow.
Some ika people have ukwuani ancestors,and our men like marrying ukwuani women.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 12:56pm On May 11
Ishilove:

Do Ika people speak Ukwuani? Their variation of the language is hard to follow.

IKA language is easy to learn,but the thing is that we have different dialect in each clan.

Lucky Irabor(agbor) and Ifeanyi Okowa(owa),each both speak different dialect both we understand each other well.
Even the new v.c of uni of agbor,she is from abavo and they have their own Ika dialect.

Strangers think Ika have only one dialect,where as we have up to 7 dialects.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by ariesbull: 1:03pm On May 11
Sufferingboy:
I have notice something alarming among the urhobos of orogun and it is something very serious.

They are turning to Ukwuani in mass,though some will still tell you they are urhobo by culture but prefer speaking and acting as Ukwuani people.

Few days ago,a friend of mine from that area was speaking ukwuani and saying they grew up learning ukwuani language and prefer to speak it.

Have you noticed it?

Ukwuani is an Igbo dialect and majority language spoken by over 40 million


Urhobo speakers only 3.4 million

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by ariesbull: 1:04pm On May 11
Ishilove:

Ofu obi! cheesy
this woman again.....
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 1:06pm On May 11
ariesbull:

Ukwuani is an Igbo dialect and majority language spoken by over 40 million


Urhobo speakers only 3.4 million

Igbo man go one side,read my post again.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 1:10pm On May 11
FreeIgbos:


I don't know why some of us (that's if you're truly Igbo) lack diplomacy. I was enjoying the discussion here and learning about tribes in Delta until you made this unfortunate and unreasonable statement. How did you conclude that the person you quoted denies being Igbo? I have seen many Igbos west of the Niger that are proud of their heritage even though there are still some misguided ones.

I'm happy that Southerners are beginning to unite so we can better fight an enemy threatening all of us. Let's encourage that spirit of togetherness.
Some people are tactless which kills diplomacy. It's not every time one gets to start this Igbo argument. Let's learn to discuss and argue in perspective. When it's time for such argument we all can slug it out.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 1:11pm On May 11
ariesbull:
this woman again.....
Don't quote me please

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