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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 8:55am On May 12
Fejoku:

You must keep away from bringing Igbo into your discussion. We know Igbo was your target when you started this thread. You're too dumb to fool any smart person.
Stop bringing Igbo into your threads.

Wetin dey worry you,I said some ikas have igbo ancestors.Igbos and hatred.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by emperorshaokahn(m): 8:56am On May 12
Ishilove:

So ''this woman again'' is a 'valid question'? undecided
no,not that one,he asked why you peeps from delta state despite answering igbo names,practicing igbo culture and tradition will still come out openly to claim benin origin,that was his question.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by emperorshaokahn(m): 8:57am On May 12
Sufferingboy:

Which state you come from?
benin(edo),you guys are our slaves.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 9:01am On May 12
emperorshaokahn:
benin(edo),you guys are our slaves.

Shut up Igbo man na this format you want start to use again?YOU.In other threads you are igbos and here you are edo.

You want edo and delta people to fight this morning ba? E nor go work.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 9:06am On May 12
Ishilove:

Isn't history absolutely delightful? cheesy

Very grin

Normally, some of us would have done justice to this topic, but time, work, life etc etc. doesn't give one the luxury of time to gather historical facts like we do in time past.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by emperorshaokahn(m): 9:07am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


Shut up Igbo man na this format you want start to use again?YOU.In other threads you are igbos and here you are edo.

You want edo and delta people to fight this morning ba? E nor go work.
thunder fire you there,i am a well known benin man here,you ikas are our slaves.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 9:16am On May 12
emperorshaokahn:
thunder fire you there,i am a well known benin man here,you ikas are our slaves.

Chai,Igbos should be proud of their identity.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by emperorshaokahn(m): 9:20am On May 12
Sufferingboy:

Chai,Igbos should be proud of their identity.
ikas are our slaves
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by kmcutez(f): 9:30am On May 12
Efewestern:


Yes very common, we all share same culture and belief system, language is our only barrier. For example, in Ukwuani, if a married woman cheats on her husband, the gods of the land will visit her family and if she doesn't confesses, her husband or children may die, same with the Urhobos and Isokos.

What happens to the married man if he cheats? Will the gods also pay him a visit?
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by sageb: 9:30am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


That is igbos for you,very mannerless,cultureless,arrogant,disrespectful,greedy and loud mouthed criminal tribe.
They are busy forcing false Identity on Ika people,but we will continue to reject them.They even went ahead and said IKA-IGBO is the new identity for IKA people,and they don't know it makes them look foolish.
They said Gen lucky Irabor is fulani,his wife is a hausa woman.where as,both Irabor and his wife are Ika people,and christains by religion.

True, but most of them have this igboid affiliation mentality. I have lived in a street close to gbenoba (first bank area) in Agbor. most of the Ika people are influenced by the igbo traders who dominate there.
across the Asaba road is Boji Boji Owa. presently, they are building a market in culvert road axis.
Mandarin is the best eatery there, I heard it is owned by Okowa's wife.
Ika women and motorcycle is like 5 and 6.
it is a thing of pride if your boyfriend buys a motorcycle for you(the girlfriend).
Alua Alua
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 9:34am On May 12
Ishilove:

And who is asking to be part of Igboland with una DNA encrypted criminality? Abeg carry una Biafra wahala to another thread.

More criminality than Ukwuani land that is notorious for it's criminal marijuana growing business?

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 9:35am On May 12
Ishilove:

They want to co-opt the south-south into their secessionist agenda by fire by force. They have 5 states so let them agitate and manage themselves like that.

No one is co-opting anyone.
The Igbos in South South know themselves and we know them.
You should be comfortable in your Minority skin and stop hiding behind meaningless terms like South-south to spread your Igbophobia.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by sageb: 9:36am On May 12
Efewestern:


Nowadays, these traditions no longer hold water, I've seen Urhobo women cheat and yet, nothing bad has happened to her familym It all boils down to the modernization of the traditional rites, they purposely omit some important aspects of the culture which I will write on soon.




This is a very strong bound but sadly, it only applies to Orogun. Presently there is a communal clashes between some quarters in Ughelli, imagine brothers killing brothers.

Sad.

which community in ughelli is fighting omo Agege kinsmen?
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by agadez007(m): 9:37am On May 12
Igboid:


More criminality than Ukwuani land that is notorious for it's criminal marijuana growing business?
it's not her fault,it's actually those nonsense IPOB members that can't do without making these nonentities feel they are special
Imagine Ukwani person calling one criminal,people that cant even evolve their own language but had to steal from igbos,wonders shall never end

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by kmcutez(f): 9:40am On May 12
emperorshaokahn:
no,not that one,he asked why you peeps from delta state despite answering igbo names,practicing igbo culture and tradition will still come out openly to claim benin origin,that was his question.

Have you ever thought maybe the Igbos stole the language and culture from the South South?
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 9:41am On May 12
sageb:


True, but most of them have this igboid affiliation mentality. I have lived in a street close to gbenoba (first bank area) in Agbor. most of the Ika people are influenced by the igbo traders who dominate there.
across the Asaba road is Boji Boji Owa. presently, they are building a market in culvert road axis.
Mandarin is the best eatery there, I heard it is owned by Okowa's wife.
Ika women and motorcycle is like 5 and 6.
it is a thing of pride if your boyfriend buys a motorcycle for you(the girlfriend).
Alua Alua
We are not greedy like igbos.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by sageb: 9:42am On May 12
Ishilove:
Where is that? Never hoid of the woid
mosogar is where the state college of physical health education is located.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 9:49am On May 12
Efewestern:


I'm not even against whatever they fight for, I just avoid some topics completely, but I find it offensive when you try to erase the identity of some groups who are distinct from you in every way.

You can fight whatever you want to fight without trying to coerce unrelated and uninterested groups. Life shouldn't be hard.

How is Ukwuani distinct from Igbo in everyway?
Are you okay at all?
You are here trying to claim that an obviously Igboid community like Umukwata even with the quintessential Igbo prefix of naming places "Umu" in-situ is descended from Urhobos.
But Igbos are supposed to be the ones forcing identity on others, eh kwa?

Orogun is maternally Ukwuani. This is common knowledge. The founders of Orogun were Urhobo men who married Ukwuani women. That's how Ukwuani creeped into Orogun.
I would wager that the Ukwuani women also invited some of their Ukwuani brothers to live with them and interbreed with Urhobos in Orogun and that have given rise to the bilingual nature of the town.
Similar thing happened to the Ijaw founders of Ofoni who married so much Urhobo women who invited their Urhobo brothers to come live with them for security, so much that the population of the Urhobo brothers overwhelmed those of the original Ijaw founders, and Ofoni ( an Urhobo speaking community in Bayelsa) is today Urhobo speaking, even though they maintain they are Ijaws, because the founder of the town was an Ijaw man from Tarakiri clan of Ijaw who married an Urhobo woman.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 9:50am On May 12
Sufferingboy:

We are not greedy like igbos.

Wasn't it an Ika king that was involved in arm robbery and was killed?

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 9:57am On May 12
Igboid:


Wasn't it any Ika king that was involved in arm robbery and was killed?

A king in imo state was once arrest for criminal activities.

Hard drugs was found in the palace of an Igbo king.

Igbos kings are well know for drug trafficking.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 9:59am On May 12
Efewestern:


From this, we can all conclude that Ukwata was the father or ancestral home of Abbi, Amai and Efe/Efi, maybe when his children moved out to create other kingdoms, the Eldest child remained.

If the above holds, then our the next question is, where was Ukwata from? I leave this to Orogun and Ukwuani indigenes to unravel.

Stop creating non existent history.

Efe is not a native Ukwuani name. It is an Edoid name.
Efi means cow and has no relationship whatsoever with Efe which means wealth in Urhobo.
The only relationship between Urhobos and Ukwuani are those expected of people who share boundaries.
They intermarried and co inhabited together.

You would have to be unstable to be suggesting a shared origin between Urhobo and Ukwuani.
I mean,an Urhobo man can never understand an Ukwuani man language even though they are neighbors without learning it from scratch.
A man from Imo state would only need a few hours of adaptation to intonation to understand Ukwuani man.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:00am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


A king in imo state was once arrest for criminal activities.

Hard drugs was found in the palace of an Igbo king.

Igbos kings are well know for drug trafficking.

So you do agree that criminality exists every where and that your Ika people are not saints?

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:01am On May 12
Igboid:


How is Ukwuani distinct from Igbo in everyway?
Are you okay at all?
You are here trying to claim that an obviously Igbo community like Umukwata even with the quintessential Igbo prefix of naming places "Umu" in-situ is descended from Urhobos.
But Igbos are supposed to be the ones forcing identity on others, eh kwa?

Orogun is maternally Ukwuani. This is common knowledge. The founders of Orogun were Urhobo men who married Ukwuani women. That's how Ukwuani creeped into Orogun.
I would wager that the Ukwuani women also invited some of their Ukwuani brothers to live with them and interbreed with Urhobos in Orogun and that have rise to the bilingual nature of the town.
Similar thing happened to the Ijaw founders of Ofoni who married so much Urhobo women who invited their Urhobo brothers to come live with them for security, so much that the population of the Urhobo brothers overwhelmed those of the original Ijaw founders, and Ofoni is today Urhobo speaking, even though they maintain they are Ijaws, because the founder of the town was an Ijaw man from Tarakiri clan of Ijaw who married an Urhobo woman.

Hmmm,I keep saying it that Igbos are not different from fulanis.

They will claim you once you have land and natural resources thry want to steal.

Thank God people are beginning to see the nature of that greedy tribe.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:03am On May 12
Igboid:


So you do agree that criminality exists every where and that your Ika people are not saints?

No I agree that in every 10 crimes committed by nigerians,9 are committed by igbos.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:13am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


Hmmm,I keep saying it that Igbos are not different from fulanis.

They will claim you once you have land and natural resources thry want to steal.

Thank God people are beginning to see the nature of that greedy tribe.

No Igboman is interested in claiming Ukwuani.
Many of us don't count Ukwuani in Igboland, we understand the Igbophobic sentiments prevalent there that has been encouraged and entrenched by Urhobos and other Nigerians.

Ndokwa East seem to be less Igbophobic as I have met more Igbo nationalists from there than any other part of Ndokwa/Ukwuani.

Every historical book out there listed Aboh kingdom as an Ebo kingdom. Obi Ossai of Aboh told the British that he and his people were Igbos.
Infact in Sierre Leone, the Igbo slaves there considered Aboh as the capital of Igboland.

We understand that things change and a people have the right to recalibrate their affinity.
But you don't have the right to change shared history just to do that.

That Ukwuani and Ndokwa ( I use both separately because I understand there is a sharp difference between both and that both are also in a form of identity crisis with Ndokwa East insisting they are distinct from Ukwuanis) were fully identified as Igbo in the past is true. That Eze Obi Ossai the most powerful king in the region affirmed to the British that Aboh kingdom were of same stock as the rest of Igbo clans East of the Niger when the British visited him is also a fact.
That Ukwuani/Ndokwa people today for reasons best Known to them are no longer comfortable with the Igbo tag is also true.
That they have the rights to be whoever they want to be, and should be respected for that, is also true.

But that they have the right to twist shared history between them and Igbos east of Nigeria and with even the proud Igbos in Enu-ani, is also false.
It is in arguing the above that the inferiority complex Igbophobic Ukwuani person get the feeling that Igbos are forcing him/her to be Igbo, when all Igbos are doing is setting the records right.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:14am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


No I agree that in every 10 crimes committed by nigerians,9 are committed by igbos.

Yet it is Ukwuani land that is the headquarters of weed growing business and not Igboland.
I reckon that if Cocaine plant can grow there, they would plant it as well.
But we are supposed to believe they are not greedy?

Ika is vastly very underdeveloped.
Your Bojiboji town is not even at Okigwe standard.
Your politicians have greedily impoverished your masses so much that when you see average Igbo trader living large in your towns, your heart becomes filled with bitterness and you go about saying that the Igbo is greedy to cover and make your self feel comfortable in your laziness.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:19am On May 12
Igboid:


No Igboman is interested in claiming Ukwuani.
Many of us don't count Ukwuani in Igboland, we understand the Igbophobic sentiments prevalent there that has been encouraged and entrenched by Urhobos and other Nigerians.

Ndokwa East seem to be less Igbophobic as I have met more Igbo nationalists from there than any other part of Ndokwa/Ukwuani.

Every historical book out there listed Aboh kingdom as an Ebo kingdom. Obi Ossai of Aboh told the British that he and his people were Igbos.
Infact in Sierre Leone, the Igbo slaves there considered Aboh as the capital of Igboland.

We understand that things change and a people have the right to recalibrate their affinity.
But you don't have the right to change shared history just to do that.

That Ukwuani and Ndokwa ( I use both separately because I understand there is a sharp difference between both and that both are also in a form of identity crisis with Ndokwa East insisting they are distinct from Ukwuanis) were fully identified as Igbo in the past is true. That Eze Obi Ossai the most powerful king in the region affirmed to the British that Aboh kingdom were of same stock as the rest of Igbo clans East of the Niger when the British visited him is also a fact.
That Ukwuani/Ndokwa people today for reasons best Known to them are no longer comfortable with the Igbo tag is also true.
That they have the rights to be whoever they want to be, and should be respected for that, is also true.

But that they have the right to twist shared history between them and Igbos east of Nigeria and with even the proud Igbos in Enu-ani, is also false.
It is in arguing the above that the inferiority complex Igbophobic Ukwuani person get the feeling that Igbos are forcing him/her to be Igbo, when all Igbos are doing is setting the records right.

I nor get time for all this story now,but Igbos should learn to stop forcing fake identity on others.

Tomorrow they will shout betrayal,where as nobody betrayed them.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:22am On May 12
emperorshaokahn:
no,not that one,he asked why you peeps from delta state despite answering igbo names,practicing igbo culture and tradition will still come out openly to claim benin origin,that was his question.
I will not answer any question that is not related to the topic of this thread.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:23am On May 12
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Igboid:


Yet it is Ukwuani land that is the headquarters of weed growing business and not Igboland.
I reckon that if Cocaine plant can grow there, they would plant it as well.
But we are supposed to believe they are not greedy?

Ika is vastly very underdeveloped.
Your Bojiboji town is not even at Okigwe standard.
Your politicians have greedily impoverished your masses so much that when you see average Igbo trader living large in your towns, your heart becomes filled with bitterness and you go about saying that the Igbo is greedy to cover and make your self feel comfortable in your laziness.

Chest beating as usual.

Ukwuani and Ika nor dey commit crime like Igbos.Ukwuani people plant India hemp beacause it is medicinal.They don't Igbos to buy and smoke it.

Enugu boys dey manufacture fake drugs everyday.
Anambra boys are busy developing asian prisons with cocaine.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:23am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


I nor get time for all this story now,but Igbos should learn to stop forcing fake identity on others.

Tomorrow they will shout betrayal,where as nobody betrayed them.
Please stop responding to any comment that is not related to the original reason why you created this thread. Don't follow them to derail your thread
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:24am On May 12
Ishilove:

I will not answer any question that is not related to the topic of this thread.

This igbo people matter tire me.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:24am On May 12
Ishilove:

Please stop responding to any comment that is not related to the original reason why you created this thread. Don't follow them to derail your thread

Thank you,I will ignore them hence forth.

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