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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:25am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


This igbo people matter tire me.
Igboid and his ilk are Igbo supremacists who go around toxifying threads with their ethnocentrism. Please don't answer them again and I will start reporting them to the mods from hence.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:26am On May 12
sageb:

mosogar is where the state college of physical health education is located.
Thanks
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:26am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


I nor get time for all this story now,but Igbos should learn to stop forcing fake identity on others.

Tomorrow they will shout betrayal,where as nobody betrayed them.

When Ezeh Obi Ossai was telling the British that his Aboh kingdom people were Eboes and that he Eze Ossai was the king of all Eboes, no Igbo man have even met with the British.
Lol!
I wonder who is forcing whatever identity on anyone.

You can change your identity today. It is well within your rights and should be respected.

But you must also recognize that shared history should remain sacrosanct and that one party doesn't have the right to change shared history without the other objecting.
Ukwuani can stop being Igbo and start being Hausa , Urhobo or whatever they want. No Igbo man gives a dead rat. Not me atleast.
But what you can't do is start claiming that anyone forced your ancestors to accept they were of same stock with the people you call Igbos today and that they were same people too.
You can stop being Igbo, but you will not be allowed to denature the above history without resistance from us. You should not mistake our resistance for us forcing you to be Igbo. Get over yourselves, you are not that important grin. We are merely setting the records right.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:26am On May 12
Ishilove:

Igboid and his ilk are Igbo supremacists who go around toxifying threads with their ethnocentrism. Please don't answer them again and I will start reporting them to the mods from hence.

Thank you,I will ignore their ignorance hence forth.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:27am On May 12
Ishilove:

Igboid and his ilk are Igbo supremacists who go around toxifying threads with their ethnocentrism. Please don't answer them again and I will start reporting them to the mods from hence.

Says a rabidly chronic Igbophobic woman. All your existence in NL, all you have done is spread Igbophobia.

That Igbo man that shattered your heart really did you 30.
Me I would do you 40. grin

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:28am On May 12
Igboid:


No one is co-opting anyone.
The Igbos in South South know themselves and we know them.
You should be comfortable in your Minority skin and stop hiding behind meaningless terms like South-south to spread your Igbophobia
.
We hear. Fück off from this thread and let us the minority discuss our minority culture in peace.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:29am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


Thank you,I will ignore their ignorance hence forth.
Ignorance obu'n wata.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Neobulletzz(m): 10:31am On May 12
Efewestern:



Mosogar is an Urhobo Clan, but Orogun never migrated from there, Orogun was founded by the daughter of Efe whose brothers also founded (Owolukpo) Abbi, Amai, and Umukwata. According to Oral history, Efe was a great warrior who fought several wars/battles.




What do you mean by Urhobo and Isoko are Igbos by Extension? Don't miseducate the general public please, if you have no knowledge about the subject matter, sit aside and learn instead of displaying this level of ignorance.
Efewestern abeg just help me with the meaning of this name EFEJEVWIE in English
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:32am On May 12
Ishilove:

We hear. Fück off from this thread and let us the minority discuss our minority culture in peace.

I'm here because Igbo was mentioned and because an Urhobo man is trying to claim that a town with "Umu" ( an obvious proto Igbo town naming preffix, just like "Shire" is to the Anglo-Saxons) is descended from Urhobos. grin

That's a blatant history distortion and disrespect to my Igbo ancestors who left their footprint in those places for me as a descendant to defend them.
I would have failed as a descendant if I allowed an Edoid Urhobo man erase such a glorious footprint without resisting him. cool

If you don't want Igbo interference in your small towns.
Fuc.k off our names and all vestiges of our footprints in your towns and your language. grin

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Neobulletzz(m): 10:34am On May 12
Efewestern:


Yes very common, we all share same culture and belief system, language is our only barrier. For example, in Ukwuani, if a married woman cheats on her husband, the gods of the land will visit her family and if she doesn't confesses, her husband or children may die, same with the Urhobos and Isokos.
Lol which kind thing be this

Wife go cheat but na husband go die if she no confess abeg I no believe
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:34am On May 12
Fejoku:

You're just dancing to his tune because of your prejudice but you'll soon realize the character you're hobnobbing with.
I am more interested in the topic than with the OP's 'character'. Thanks
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 10:37am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


Wetin dey worry you,I said some ikas have igbo ancestors.Igbos and hatred.
Stop involving Igbos in your trashy write ups. Just pretend we don't exist and do your things but if you continue to subtly throw jabs at us, we will openly give you uppercut. Just stay your lane and we will be fine.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 10:38am On May 12
Ishilove:

I am more interested in the topic than with the OP's 'character'. Thanks
Ok
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:38am On May 12
Neobulletzz:

Lol which kind thing be this

Wife go cheat but na husband go die if she no confess abeg I no believe
Oh it's very true. I don't know if it still works that way but that is how it has been from the beginning. If she cheats, the husband must not make love to her or eat her food until she confesses and go for the ceremonial cleansing.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by igboboy775: 10:39am On May 12
Ishilove:

Igboid and his ilk are Igbo supremacists who go around toxifying threads with their ethnocentrism. Please don't answer them again and I will start reporting them to the mods from hence.

You're getting it all WRONG. It's not so much a question of Igbo supremacy or your people been forced to accept the Igbo identity... any group of people can choose to be whom they want to be, and to be honest your people don't offer Igbos anything useful in any context of worth imaginable for us to worry ourselves (except for the delusional IPOB elements of course). The question however remains, why can't you Ukwuani, Ikwerre, Ika etc and other Igbo - phobic elements just come together and decide to evolve a language of your own? you answer Igbo names, speak variant but discernable dialects of Igbo, practice Igbo culture/traditions...the reason why I'm actually worried about you minorities with Igbo appendages not forming your own distinctive languages and culture is because tomorrow when an Ukwuani man with identity crisis issues will start a coup like Nzeogwu did back in 1966, millions of Igbos will then pay the price instead of the Ukwuani people specifically! you can't keep answering Kenechukwu or Chukwudi, you then speak a pure dialect of Igbo and then expect me not to call you out when you spite my people for calling you Igbos, I means it's not rocket science! Sort yourselves out fast because the Igbos are not going to take the fall again for your sins, we learned the hard way from the Nzeogwu coup... never again are we going to be the Guinea pigs for the sins of some hopelessly confused bunch of usurpers with no identity and history of their own.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by pocohantas(f): 10:40am On May 12
Ishilove:

Very true

You typed this and didn’t expect them to descend on you? lipsrsealed
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:43am On May 12
Sufferingboy:
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Chest beating as usual.

Ukwuani and Ika nor dey commit crime like Igbos.Ukwuani people plant India hemp beacause it is medicinal.They don't Igbos to buy and smoke it.

Enugu boys dey manufacture fake drugs everyday.
Anambra boys are busy developing asian prisons with cocaine.

Lol!
Tell that to the dogs.

They plant Marijuana because it's a money spinning business.
They are greedy and want easy money too.
Just that they don't really have the wits like their cousins in East on how to go about it in more diverse ways. The marijuana way they discovered, all of them are going into it.

Speaking of Greed. Is the entire Delta and Edo not the headquarters of Yahoo business in Southern Nigeria today,with HKs springing up everywhere and lazy but greedy youths all looking out for quick money without hard work all embracing the criminality?

You are just angry you lots don't Know how to get rich through criminal methods like many Igbo youths do.
The few avenues your discovered, ie Marijuana and Yahoo, all your youths want to die put on top of it.
You don't have a higher moral ground than Igbos you like to malign, you are just not as sharp witted as Igbos in discovering and exploiting criminally existing but not easily noticed loopholes to acquire quick money.

Cry me a river bro. Oka mmadu kalili chi ya!

Go tell your Bini people to interpret that for you. grin. My ancestors colonized you by making you subservient to my language. Ighota go? We live rent free in your heads, in your names, your town names, etc.

Okika diba na gboo!

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Neobulletzz(m): 10:44am On May 12
Ishilove:

Oh it's very true. I don't know if it still works that way but that is how it has been from the beginning. If she cheats, the husband must not make love to her or eat her food until she confesses and go for the ceremonial cleansing.
Lol okay oooo

Sorry are you Urhobo?
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:46am On May 12
pocohantas:


You typed this and didn’t expect them to descend on you? lipsrsealed
They descend on anyone who does not agree with their agenda. Like my friend said, they are like Boko Haram who descend on Muslims who don't agree with their ideology. Their aim is to ruin every thread the enter.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 10:47am On May 12
Neobulletzz:

Lol okay oooo

Sorry are you Urhobo?
Nope. Ukwuani
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:52am On May 12
Igboid:


Lol!
Tell that to the dogs.

They plant Marijuana because it's a money spinning business.
They are greedy and want easy money too.
Just that they don't really have the wits like their cousins in East on how to go about it in more diverse ways. The marijuana way they discovered, all of them are going into it.

Speaking of Greed. Is the entire Delta and Edo not the headquarters of Yahoo business in Southern Nigeria today,with HKs springing up everywhere and lazy but greedy youths all looking out for quick money without hard work all embracing the criminality?

You are just angry you lots don't Know how to get rich through criminal methods like many Igbo youths do.
The few avenues your discovered, ie Marijuana and Yahoo, all your youths want to die put on top of it.
You don't have a higher moral ground than Igbos you like to malign, you are just not as sharp witted as Igbos in discovering and exploiting criminally existing but not easily noticed loopholes to acquire quick money.

Cry me a river bro. Oka mmadu kalili chi ya!

Go tell your Bini people to interpret that for you. grin. My ancestors colonized you by making you subservient to my language. Ighota go? We live rent free in your heads, in your names, your town names, etc.

Okika diba n' gboo!

Na Igbos na im dey do yahoo pass.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 10:55am On May 12
Sufferingboy:


Na Igbos na im dey do yahoo pass.

We are learners where Edo boys and their Edoid (Urhobo and Isoko) Delta cousins are.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:55am On May 12
Igboid:


Lol!
Tell that to the dogs.

They plant Marijuana because it's a money spinning business.
They are greedy and want easy money too.
Just that they don't really have the wits like their cousins in East on how to go about it in more diverse ways. The marijuana way they discovered, all of them are going into it.

Speaking of Greed. Is the entire Delta and Edo not the headquarters of Yahoo business in Southern Nigeria today,with HKs springing up everywhere and lazy but greedy youths all looking out for quick money without hard work all embracing the criminality?

You are just angry you lots don't Know how to get rich through criminal methods like many Igbo youths do.
The few avenues your discovered, ie Marijuana and Yahoo, all your youths want to die put on top of it.
You don't have a higher moral ground than Igbos you like to malign, you are just not as sharp witted as Igbos in discovering and exploiting criminally existing but not easily noticed loopholes to acquire quick money.

Cry me a river bro. Oka mmadu kalili chi ya!

Go tell your Bini people to interpret that for you. grin. My ancestors colonized you by making you subservient to my language. Ighota go? We live rent free in your heads, in your names, your town names, etc.

Okika diba na gboo!
An igbo man sold a non existent airport.
Another one is in us jail(obiwane Okeke)
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Neobulletzz(m): 10:58am On May 12
Ishilove:

Nope. Ukwuani
Ukwuani, is that a language in Delta state too?

P.S I am Urhobo, both parents Urhobo but I know nothing about the Urhobo, I can’t even speak Urhobo self apart from the greeting which is migwo, nothing else but I could understand when someone else is speaking but can’t just speak it myself. I can speak Yoruba tho. I was born and brought up here in Lagos, only been to Delta state once for just one month or so when I was younger that is why that culture thing sounds funny to me as in wife go cheat but na husband go carry the consequence, lol it’s just funny for real
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 11:12am On May 12
Neobulletzz:

Ukwuani, is that a language in Delta state too?

P.S I am Urhobo, both parents Urhobo but I know nothing about the Urhobo, I can’t even speak Urhobo self apart from the greeting which is migwo, nothing else but I could understand when someone else is speaking but can’t just speak it myself. I can speak Yoruba tho. I was born and brought up here in Lagos, only been to Delta state once for just one month or so when I was younger that is why that culture thing sounds funny to me as in wife go cheat but na husband go carry the consequence, lol it’s just funny for real
The ukwuani are a group in Delta, as well as a language.

I was also born and raised in the Lasgidi so I can hear and speak Yoruba, but I can speak my language as well because I was raised in a family that speaks the language at home.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 11:13am On May 12
kmcutez:


What happens to the married man if he cheats? Will the gods also pay him a visit?

An African man is entitled to marry as many women as he so pleases. Don't act like you don't know much about African traditions.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 11:14am On May 12
Neobulletzz:

Efewestern abeg just help me with the meaning of this name EFEJEVWIE in English

I don't know if you spell this correctly, but I can translate it to "Youthful wealth".
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Igboid: 11:14am On May 12
Sufferingboy:

An igbo man sold a non existent airport.
Another one is in us jail(obiwane Okeke)

Igbos don't usually play local league. We go big or go home.
In terms of numbers, you have more percentage of your youths in Yahoo business, while the Igbo has more in number of high end players in the game. We naturally go big.
In the East,a youth growing up and who can't go to University has the option to join trade( Igba boyi, which has even been studied by Havard University) or join Yahoo HK.
All the option the Edo/Delta Edoid have is to join an HK, or Maybe try trek to Italy or Spain via Libya/Morocco deserts.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Neobulletzz(m): 11:37am On May 12
Efewestern:


I don't know if you spell this correctly, but I can translate it to "Youthful wealth".
It is spelt correctly, “Efejevwie”
the meaning is just always confusing

Some say something like “it is good to born wealth” or “wealth still dey born” or like the more you are wealthy, the more you give birth”
I have heard different things sha but wealth is certainly there
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 11:44am On May 12
Igboid:


How is Ukwuani distinct from Igbo in everyway?
Are you okay at all?

Can you point were I said Ukwuani is distinct from Igbo? Heck, I was referring to the Urhobo/Isoko whom one of your brother grouped under Igbo. Why can't you correct your people when they dish out wrong information but jump at messages aimed at correcting these falsehoods? Isn't this hypocritical?

You are here trying to claim that an obviously Igboid community like Umukwata even with the quintessential Igbo prefix of naming places "Umu" in-situ is descended from Urhobos.
But Igbos are supposed to be the ones forcing identity on others, eh kwa?

Orogun is maternally Ukwuani. This is common knowledge. The founders of Orogun were Urhobo men who married Ukwuani women. That's how Ukwuani creeped into Orogun.

I would wager that the Ukwuani women also invited some of their Ukwuani brothers to live with them and interbreed with Urhobos in Orogun and that have given rise to the bilingual nature of the town.

I don't know where you get your historical facts from, but history states that the father of Orogun, Efe is related to Amai, Abbi and Umukwata. Any Orogun or Abbi indigene can confirm this.

Similar thing happened to the Ijaw founders of Ofoni who married so much Urhobo women who invited their Urhobo brothers to come live with them for security, so much that the population of the Urhobo brothers overwhelmed those of the original Ijaw founders, and Ofoni ( an Urhobo speaking community in Bayelsa) is today Urhobo speaking, even though they maintain they are Ijaws, because the founder of the town was an Ijaw man from Tarakiri clan of Ijaw who married an Urhobo woman.

Ofoni is different from Orogun, in Orogun, the Urhobos were able to maintain their language and identity despite centuries of ties with their Ukwuani cousins. But in Ofoni, they somehow managed to speak 100% Urhobo, how can a community that speaks 100% Urhobo be Ijaw? Isn't this fraudulent?

Are you aware Edwin Clark's village is also bilingual? Why then are they regarded as Ijaw and the Urhobos in Ofoni that speak 100% Urhobo aren't Urhobos?

@Bolded, even the ijaws don't regard Ofoni as one of them except when they want to play politics, or why did you think they voted massively for the opposition party? They never wanted an Urhobo deputy governor.
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by emperorshaokahn(m): 11:53am On May 12
Ishilove:

I will not answer any question that is not related to the topic of this thread.
but it is related na.

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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by emperorshaokahn(m): 11:54am On May 12
kmcutez:


Have you ever thought maybe the Igbos stole the language and culture from the South South?
lol,guy abeg go drink ogogoro jare,you be real mumu.

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