Some people will begin to attack Chim, rather than the doctrines.

BSsniffer:
It's not about Catholicism but a toxic Igbo culture that worships money and regards women as property.

A true religion should be able to check unfavourable cultural in an environment

Any learned or educated person who hasn't outgrown religion is destined to remain stupid...

I can't say more than this!!!

festacman:


The actions of the Church as a body in a particular area which in this case is Anambra State are implemented by the priest and church council members who are essentially church members.

In her case like in all cases, families of deceased members are made to pay outstanding levies made towards church projects before they are buried. This of course is not obtained in, for example, in Lagos Archdiocese where church fundraising generates millions from the same business men from Anambra State who neglect their home church.

I took time to explain to make the issue clear.

Her experiences were not in lagos. She impacted by what happened in anambra state.
And we can't excuse what is wrong if not it wouldn't end.
Christ that you and I serve would never demand money in exchange for any church service. The action is not Christianly and it can affect ones commitment to the church.
I don't blame her.
Again you somehow found a way to bring in tribalism into Christianity. The church is one body, be it in lagos, Rome or Anambra

breathelove:

Her experiences were not in lagos. She impacted by what happened in anambra state.
And we can't excuse what is wrong if not it wouldn't end.
Christ that you and I serve would never demand money in exchange for any church service. The action is not Christianly and it can affect ones commitment to the church.
I don't blame her

I am not sure you read and understood my reply to your comment before this comment. But it's ok. Enjoy your night.

What touched me was the refusal to conduct burial mass because the deceased was owing..


The same happens in the traditional system: your loved one will not be buried because the list of drinks and kola was not complete and sadly the people insisting that "tradition must be followed" look so, I don't want to mention it sef..

That crazy part of our culture must be removed and as for the church, shame on you guys.
Do you know some churches request for how much you will pay for them to come conduct burial service?
Do you also know they check how well you have been paying your tithe and contributions to offerings before considering your request?

Make una change o..

Angelfrost:
Any learned or educated person who hasn't outgrown religion is destined to remain stupid...

I can't say more than this!!!

You are obviously very young and don't know so much.

You just used this little space nairaland offered you to insult almost everyone.

I am sure you went to school but ask yourself, are you truly wiser or better than are the religious people you know?

festacman:


I am not sure you read and understood my reply to your comment before this comment. But it's ok. Enjoy your night.

I actually did.. you talked about having a home church.. in Christianity thereally is nothing like that. The body of Christ is one.
Also the doctrine same are the same. The church in Anambra should be no different from the church in lagos.
And like I told you, the services of the church are 100% free.

breathelove:

I actually did.. you talked about having a home church.. in Christianity thereally is nothing like that. The body of Christ is one.
Also the doctrine same are the same. The church in Anambra should be no different from the church in lagos.
And like I told you, the services of the church are 100% free.

It is not the church that is different but how the church is administered given certain peculiarities in an area. By the way, Paul's letter Galatians didn't contain the same issues as his letter to the Corinthians or his letter to the Romans. Every local church has its administrative uniqueness given its challenges.

You read my comments with a bit of prejudices. Open mind helps.

Chimamanda you no get talk, abeg park one side. Go and worship pastors in your Pentecostal church.

festacman:


It is not the church that is different but how the church is administered given certain peculiarities in an area. By the way, Paul's letter Galatians didn't contain the same issues as his letter to the Corinthians or his letter to the Romans. Every local church has its administrative uniqueness given its challenges.

You read my comments with a bit of prejudices. Open mind helps.

Sir, I still believe that we should be able to call out what is wrong.
When we loss a family member, we expect the church to come around and support.
Remember the scripture, mourn with those that mourn.
We cannot condone religion extorting a grieving family.
What would Christ do?
Chimamanda may be the most vocal but she is not the only one that has left the church because of this.
We can do better. There is no excuse to estort a grieving family.
You talked about Paul writing different letters to the various churches so let me end by quoting the words of Paul 1 corinthians 1.10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

jozz:


A true religion should be able to check unfavourable cultural in an environment

Religion doesn't work that way. If not religions like Islam would be considered fake.

breathelove:

Sir, I still believe that we should be able to call out what is wrong.
When we loss a family member, we expect the church to come around and support.
Remember the scripture, mourn with those that mourn.
We cannot condone religion extorting a grieving family.
What would Christ do?
Chimamanda may be the most vocal but she is not the only one that has left the church because of this.
We can do better. There is no excuse to estort a grieving family.
You talked about Paul writing different letters to the various churches so let me end by quoting the words of Paul 1 corinthians 1.10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

If nobody paid that developmental levy in the village to develop and run the church, there won't be any church to bury the deceased whose families can ordinarily afford to give big donation but won't. However, when they die, they will be brought home to the same poor villagers who contributed to run the church to bury. Then, why didn't the family bury the deceased in the town rather than bothering the poor village church. That's unnecessary sense of entitlement hidden under insincere Christianity. Christianity is not emotions but everyday practical living.

Jesus turned water into wine to help a young couple in need even when his time hadn't come. He showed empathy and contributed to a wedding he wasn't part of it's organization rather than pleading unripeness of time.

I will stop here. Thanks for engaging.

adaxme:
Ebony milf what are u saying
??
Totally rubbish

Dumb set of worshippers. Always pained on hearing the truth.

adaxme:
Ebony milf what are u saying
??
Totally rubbish

Dumb set of worshippers. Always pained on hearing the truth.

kingxsamz:
...
Christians claim to be "one" and that they serve the same god, but the division between them is so much that it's considered an act of clownery when they say "their god is not a god of confusion".
MFM, Catholic, White garment, RCCG, Deeper life, Jehovah witness, Christ embassy etc... Don't agree with themselves in a lot of things.
And they read the same Bible.
Religion has and will always cause division, both to its adherents and the outsiders.
Funny how women are the ones who are more religious even though religion recognizes them as mere property for men.

Trash of a last line. Embrace God and look not into the operation of churches for judgement cometh on voilators. Hope you understand?

kingxsamz:
...
Christians claim to be "one" and that they serve the same god, but the division between them is so much that it's considered an act of clownery when they say "their god is not a god of confusion".
MFM, Catholic, White garment, RCCG, Deeper life, Jehovah witness, Christ embassy etc... Don't agree with themselves in a lot of things.
And they read the same Bible.
Religion has and will always cause division, both to its adherents and the outsiders.
Funny how women are the ones who are more religious even though religion recognizes them as mere property for men.

Not all religions are like this. Buddhism doesn't put any gender above the other, it's just the three abrahamic religions that teach violence and all sorts of evil. I've asked a Christian before if what God told Saul to do (kill a whole country off including babies) was a good thing, the person said yes, then I asked the person to imagine if someone comes to his house with a gun kills his whole family and says God told him to do it, how would he feel then.

offiahvictor:
Trash of a last line. Embrace God and look not into the operation of churches for judgement cometh on voilators. Hope you understand?

Yada yada yada, even your Bible contains acts of violence and I remember vividly that Timothy said that women should not teach men and must follow whatever men say. Christianity is built on violence, misogyny, sexism and religious intolerance.

jesusjnr2020:
You're right that sexism is still prevalent in the church and the woman is still being treated by church leaders and Christians as the cause of man's downfall despite that Jesus had redeemed her from the curse of her sin. So that's not in question.

However in your own case, it's a matter of the curse of knowledge and fame etc., which is pride but the end thereof is destruction.

I hope God humbles you and makes you go through things that would make you realize how far you've strayed from the Truth so you can retrace your footsteps.

God bless.

wait o,
no be swear be this?

LienwaltAbel:

Not all religions are like this. Buddhism doesn't put any gender above the other, it's just the three abrahamic religions that teach violence and all sorts of evil. I've asked a Christian before if what God told Saul to do (kill a whole country off including babies) was a good thing, the person said yes, then I asked the person to imagine if someone comes to his house with a gun kills his whole family and says God told him to do it, how would he feel then.

I agree with you.

offiahvictor:
Trash of a last line. Embrace God and look not into the operation of churches for judgement cometh on voilators. Hope you understand?

Story.

We should understand this before making our comments. Catholism and Catholic are two different words. Separation of the two does not make you a non member of the denomination. She remains a member of the church but does not accept some of its traditions.

It is also in other churches. There are so many practices of many churches today that are against the teachings of Christ. If I find one in my church I will eschew it in my way of life but will still identify myself as a member of the church. Running from a church to another makes no meaning.

vibre:

See as you dey cast yourself, lala go nack you another one now.

E be like hand don touch am

Djauro:


https://punchng.com/why-i-separated-myself-from-catholicism-chimamanda-adichie/

Akwa Nwa, but don't discard your Holy Rosary irrespective of your dichotomy with the Catholic Church. There's power in reciting the Holy Rosary

I HAVE ALWAYS QUESTIONED THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR FAME WITH SOYINKA,WITCHCRAFT MAYBE.WHICH MEANS WHAT INSPIRES YOUR WRITINGS IS VERY UNCLEAN AND AFFILIATED WITH THE DEVIL.PITY YA SOUL BECAUSE YOU AND SOYINKA ARE BEDS OF SIMILAR FEATHER AND DILLUSIONAL HUMAN BEINGS.
CATHOLIC IS THE UNIVRRSAL CHURCH I STAND UNSEPARATED WITH CATHOLIC FOREVER.

Catholicism practiced in Nigeria in is completely different from what is practiced in the western world. We are more catholic than the pope in Naija.

jesusjnr2020:
You're right that sexism is still prevalent in the church and the woman is still being treated by church leaders and Christians as the cause of man's downfall despite that Jesus had redeemed her from the curse of her sin. So that's not in question.

However in your own case, it's a matter of the curse of knowledge and fame etc., which is pride but the end thereof is destruction.

I hope God humbles you and makes you go through things that would make you realize how far you've strayed from the Truth so you can retrace your footsteps.

God bless.

Me that I am not famous or deemed knowledgeable, why did I stop believing all the religious crap brought by the Europeans and Arabs to Africa?

Chai! Europeans and Arabs really dealt with Africans.

meobizy:
Abeg, this woman always finds one thing or the other to complain about when trying to appease her white masters. She strikes me as the type to quickly birth babies with white men in order to wash her 'impurity' during slave times. For a writer, she forgets there were mentions of heroic females in the bible. Yes, attack the Christian institution because Caucasians as at 2021 do not find religion useful. "Hey, massa white man, sir. I'm the same as you — only sunburnt".

Religion is not useful.

Alexaonfleek:
This isn't about the catholic church....its because of that nasty local igbo culture.
Other more liberal cities don't have extremely strict dress codes for women and besides there are somethings you can't just wear when going out especially to a church.

Kim Kardashian was asked to put on some decent clothes when she went to the Vatican.

Many of what we have as Igbo culture today was infused by the Catholic Church which has a strong hold there.

An Igbo historian told me that igbo wives used to bear their fathers name prior to the arrival of the Catholic missionaries.

Chochochoo. Who even asked you Ngozi. Continue to exagerate.

I'm not Catholic, but:

Pedro Poveda

LienwaltAbel:

Yada yada yada, even your Bible contains acts of violence and I remember vividly that Timothy said that women should not teach men and must follow whatever men say. Christianity is built on violence, misogyny, sexism and religious intolerance.

Now i know you are a misnomer,uncircumcised philistine. You cant mock Gods word.