jaxxy:


If a pastor is employed and not called and is paid a monthly salary like an employee he can damn well be sacked like an employee that he is by his employer.

If the pastor had his own work and house how can u sack him when ure not paying him??

I have said the current church model is faulty and prone to corruption.

blaise26abj:


I disagree . There is no system that is not prone to corruption . Even the early church had issues . If a pastor has his own work and house , EVEN if he is called , there are church functions he or his “working “ associates cannot effectively do .
1. No vigils during the week .
2. No child naming during workdays .
3. No emergency deliverances or prayer sessions for the sick.
4. When he is tired , he is tired. midweek service will suffer.
Being a Pastor is a Job . Managing people is one of the most difficult jobs on earth

focus7:
I just posted on one thread about Oyedepo. A most manipulative, deceptive and greedy pastor I ever know.

Modified: What a business strategy. A mandate to plant 10,000 churches in Nigeria with monthly minimum income generation of 3m. Multiply that by 10,000 that gives you 30billion in a month not adding what is generated from the other existing branches o.

You can imagine the pastor thought the motive was to win soul to the Lord not knowing it was to make money for Oyedepo.

Tell me how many importers from Alaba international makes that as profit in a month. Omo church is a business o, fleets of aircraft loading and the boasting will increase volume.

Nigeria government should start taxing churches, it's a business setting in Nigeria.

ANDREW91:

This pastor nor get sense, you collect salary every month but yet can't generate revenue for the church. When u were collect salary no social media knew about it

Odidigboigbo:
before I comments, I want to see the reason given for their sack in their sack letter. If this sacked pastor is saying the truth, let him upload his sack letter to backup his claims if he is not being mischievous.

iamdapsyj:


Let me see if i can attend to your enquiry.....

What happened to most of the pastor sacked is not about monetary issues. They are basically not telling the truth and they feel pained.

I know a winners pastor in Ogun State who told me that most of these pastors don't reside in the places where they are transferred which in turn led to their inefficiency(doing their jobs accordingly).

I will give a scenario.....winners chapel will give you money to pay house rent in the place where you will pastor (according to their mandate your family should move with you to the place) but these pastors will for one reason or the other not move with their families. This results to absenteeism. They will only travel to their branches on Saturdays to prepare for Sunday service. They are required to do evangelism to create awareness about Christ and the church which they don't do as a result of not always being around. Unknown to some of these pastors, winners send some people to go do some investigations to know if these pastors are up and doing.

Secondly, they are been paid monies to get halls for their branches but some pastors will inflate the price while others even spent the money.

These pastors have so many misconducts they are not talking about but want to tarnish the image of the church.

2dominate:

Since Christians believe that terrorist claiming to be practicing the commandments of Islam are actually true even though they are just a small fraction of muslims, so the same must apply to them also when some of their clerics acts in a way that might be contrary to the real teachings of christ

GreenArrow1:
It's a normal thing in business abeg. You people should let him rest. If other financial institutions like Union Bank and GTB can do same, why are people raising voice about Winner Chapel?

Jonathan39:
Terrorism is rooted in Islam, stop decieving yourself

Jonathan39:
Terrorism is rooted in Islam, stop decieving yourself

2dominate:

The church is also pure business stop deceiving yourself that it's a religious enterprise.

kingxsamz:
Why are people surprised?
The church has always been a business center.
Which business owner wouldn't want his business to move?
And people really think these pastors believe some Jesus is coming back soon.

Clinton207:
This can't be true, before you pass judgment,try to see the said issue from other perspective.

Living faith church does not condone laziness at any level of life.(personal/kingdom wise).

Secondly they don't condone misbehaviour or likewise as a worker or called minister.

Note: pastor peter and the other said 40 pastors might be one of those who saw how glowing pastors look , also knowing how much pastors take home package is in the winners church, so when there came the announcement for pastoral enlisting jumped to grab the opportunity.


Mind you, I have seen people go into ministry just to get the financial blessings,popularity and luxury attached.

Futhermore, the letter read did not state that he was relieved for not meeting financial target. He might have said that to gain public attention.

jaxxy:


It’s about organizing ur time. Paul was a full time minister bt still didn’t relax and depends totally on people or the church, he worked with his hands so he isn’t seen to be taking advantage of his position. Paul worked he wasn’t paid salary.

Salary for a pastor is wrong that is my point.

AmandaTalks:
A pastor at Winners Chapel has cried out after he was sacked for not generating enough money in his branch.

According to the pastor, mr Peter Godwin, he was invited by the state pastor and getting there he met other pastors about 40 and they were all sacked over low income in their branches.

Watch the video below from 2.44 minutes as a Living Faith Church Pastor reveals how he was sacked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLhcBEjpwxg

Blogger, Maureen Badejo also talks about the sack too. Watch from 40 minutes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_IpH8dndJk

egbetokuns:


[b]Many of this sacked pastors deserved to be sacked.
I witness some report that some pastors posted to rural area’s in some state don’t even open their church for some month. They doctored their attendance and reporting it accordingly until the MIS official visited the church physically and discovered that the church has been locked down for so many month. Infant the whole place was filled with grass.
Many of this pastors just looking for salary not to [/b]serve God and winners mandate is winning souls to God kingdom even a member of winners church must come along to church with new souls.imagine pastor posted to a church and unable to increase the attendance of that particular church and you are expecting the leadership to start praising you.
If you can’t go about your father’s business don’t expect rewards from your father. You must be disciplined. Do things of God as yourself. As at this moment. I’m praying at this midnight to God for more souls to our church and the more souls the more everything increases in the house of the lord.

judeodion:
Will you keep quiet?
If you say God called them before making them Pastors how come you sack them? Or was it God that asked you to sack them?
Its not a circular thing where numbers should be concerned.
If you were the GO during Jesus's time on Earth, you'd have sacked him for having only 12 members
Whats important is the spiritual growth of the people

judeodion:

If you were the GO during Jesus's time on Earth, you'd have sacked him for having only 12 members
Whats important is the spiritual growth of the people

lilvicky68:

Low income

Toks2008:


I wrote here some years back of how things play out in Christ Embassy where i was a member of the HAven, a PCF segment of the churcjh.

Haven is made up of rich professionals who love to finance the gospel in the church. Anytime there is any huge project, the burden is on this group to cough out the finance.

But when i had a terrible accident in 2001 that made me totally incapacitated, there was not even one of these group members who gave me a dime pending when i get back on my feet.

Months after i was able to walk again i resumed worshipping at the church and guess what...just a month after i got back to church, we had a meeting to raise money to buy a car for the pastor of that branch at Alakija. I just shook my head and left the church for good.

I hope they have changed. Many churches are all about the money they can get from members and they don't really care about the welfare of same members or even care so much about the primary purpose of soul winning.

This is why i say salvation is a personal thing... Don't look at the churches but focus on Christ Jesus, accept him as lord and saviour and relate with him directly and not through any mortal man like yourself.

Kobojunkiee:
The NEW Covenant Law of God, Jesus Christ , in the Kingdom of God is an agreement between God and individuals , not to nations or peoples or even your churches or nonprofit organizations.

So when Jesus Christ said what He did in Matthew 10 vs 8 is instead a direct commandments to you as a person , not to a church or nonprofit group you subscribe to.

Anglican, Methodist etc., are organizations set up by men in order to gather for themselves power and wealth over their fellow men in the name of God. Jesus Christ never asked anyone to build Him churches or kingdoms here on earth, nor did he ask for business in his honor. He didn't ask anyone to set up schools on his name or acquire education in his name

So stop confusing that which is of God with that which is not.

Kobojunkie:
Which Rapture?

The man probably has a 30-year plan in place to ensure continued growth and expansion of his kingdom here on earth.

Or maybe longer like Kenneth Hagin, I think, who believes he will not live a minute less than 120 in his kingdom here on earth.

Kobojunkiee:
Same thing with mosques.... they are all "glorified" business ventures built by men to the purpose of power and wealth over other men. It's all about controlling access to God and the things of God, as well as the narrative.

So don't delude yourself for one second thinking this is only a Christian thing.

Krismas:
Another trash news! How can a man be employed in August 2020 and in less than a year, he becomes the head pastor of any church in Living faith? Really?? Well he was discharged for POOR CHURCH GROWTH. Nowhere in the discharge letter was POOR OFFERING GENERATED, mentioned as reason.