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Tajbol4splend:
This is not about tribe, how many families do you know in these tribes that makes you come to this conclusion

rosinkkit:
90% of igbo millionaires and billionaires are EXTREMELY selfish. THEIR OWN FAMILIES SUFFER, apart from the wife and kids.

They rarely do anything for their own communities apart from maybe distribute rice and provisions to the villagers at christmas.

You will see an Igbo man worth several millions of dollars. Some of his brothers/cousins etc will still be hustling on the streets, some even hawking.

You never see that with northerners. Once one of them is rich, and you see the brothers, you won't even know the one that is the big shot, because they're all solid.

When they travel to Dubai, you'll see up to 20 of them at the airport, from Alhaji to his brothers, sisters, mum, dad, cousins, drivers, hairdressers, house helps etc.

An Igbo man, if he travels with anyone, na him wife and maybe his kids. Finish.

More often than not, he just sneaks out alone.

I think the refusal of wealthy Igbos to share their wealth is a reason for the continued marginalisation of Igbos in Nigeria. Political influence requires that you have a large base of well-to-do elite. When you restrict that elite to a tiny club of monied men, your base is weakened, and easy to manipulate. It is very easy for others to take advantage of your group.

DesChyko:
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

This is the Igbos' way of life.

That being said, the poverty rate in South East Nigeria is 42% in the most primitive of areas, while that of the North is 78% of their population.

This heavily contradicts the OP's idea of generosity and wealth spread.

aribisala0:
How do you work this one out?

On what basis do you get these numbers

rosinkkit:
Observation and experience.

rosinkkit:
Another idiotic response that deliberately ignores the thrust of the debate, which focuses on intra-ELITE wealth transfer and expansion.

Just because you are Igbo does not mean you lose your common sense and objectivity, and pretend not to understand what is being said, out of desperation to defend your 'perfect tribe' from criticism.

DesChyko:
Your intra-ELITE wealth transfer narrative doesn't exclude the vast poor natives from the identity of being a Northerner. For all your generational wealth transfer, the poverty rate in your region is almost twice that of the region you think you have a say on the way they use their money.
Stop barking up the wrong tree. Numbers from the civil war down to this date show the Igbo system is working. Numbers show the generational poverty transfer in the North is thriving too.

aribisala0:
Anyone can just manufacture any statistic and say it is observation and experience

The weight of the claim being made is not one that can be buttressed by phantom "observation and experience"

I can just wake up and s ay 90% of northerners possess a plastic blue kettle from observation and experience?

rosinkkit:
Dude, I've been around a long time and have met many folks. I know exactly what I'm talking about, and I bet you, if you were to pull up one of these Igbos in private, they'll attest to the truth of what I'm saying. The Igbo super rich are VERY selfish and stingy.

aribisala0:
Guy if indeed you went to school you would know that that is a ridiculous basis for any statistical claims
You have been around a long time ? So what? Are you the only that has been around a long time?
Your claim is one that needs to be buttressed by evidence from research or objective study not anecdote
Itoo have been around a long time and seen a lot of plastic blue kettles .So what?

rosinkkit:
Length of time on Earth is certainly a factor in gaining worldly experience. Other factors come into play, such as the crowd of people you know etc etc. Take it or leave it. I'm not forcing you to accept my position.

aribisala0:
Experience is not data
Does every old person have the same experience or opinion?
Even if you try you cannot force me

Take my position or leave it
Your position is absurd

You gave a specific figure in % what is the basis?

You cannot tell us the population of Imo state based on how long you have been around or the crowd of people you move with can you?

rosinkkit:
Length of time on Earth is certainly a factor in gaining worldly experience. Other factors come into play, such as the crowd of people you know, the numbers, etc etc. Take it or leave it. I'm not forcing you to accept my position.

rosinkkit:
Ever heard of qualitative research?

Do you think all research is empirical?

aribisala0:
By the wat why are you comparing Ibo to "Northern" Ibo is an ethnic group and there are dozens of ethnic groups in the North e.g there are Yoruba , Igala Tiv and Fulani with very different cultures

Certainly Yoruba are very different from Fulani. Are you Arrewa. That is the person who is always insisting on grouping the whole north together.
So why single out Ibos from the south

rosinkkit:
A typical northern millionaire believes his brothers should ALSO be millionaires.

A typical Igbo millionaire believes his brothers should NOT be millionaires because that challenges his status as ''onye isi'' (the top dog) whom everyone has to approach for help.

So when he ''helps'' his brothers, he basically gives them just enough to make a decent living, but definitely not enough to place them on HIS level of wealth.

There is always a clear boundary and ceiling, as to how rich he can help you get. It must never be anywhere close to his level.

That is the typical Igbo millionaire's mentality, and it's pretty sad.

rosinkkit:
90% or more of the northern super rich are Hausa - Fulani.

No need to be pedantic.

rosinkkit:
90% or more of the northern super rich are Hausa - Fulani.

No need to be pedantic.

aribisala0:
By implication 90% of the super rich in the south are Ibo?

rosinkkit:
Another stupid, baseless inference.

rosinkkit:
Ever heard of qualitative research?

Do you think all research is empirical?

rosinkkit:
Dumbo, is there a rule for those like you who call others Hausas simply because you don't like what they are saying?

rosinkkit:
Dumbo, is there a rule for dumbitos like you who call others Hausas simply because you don't like what they are saying?

rosinkkit:
Dumbo, is there a rule for dumbitos like you who call others Hausas simply because you don't like what they are saying?

aribisala0:
Qualitative is not the antonym of empirical

Research can be qualitative AND Empirical

If indeed you went to university then you wasted money and should ask for a refund

rosinkkit:
What a complete dunce. You probably graduated recently so your little boy head is in ecstasy.

I asked you 2 simple questions which you refused to answer, only to return with this garbage.

Two simple questions:

1) Ever heard of qualitative research?

2) Do you think all research is empirical?

Simple.

aribisala0:
When I graduated is irrelevant

YOU clearly do not understand the meanings of the words you are throwing around
Empirical is not the antonym of Qualitative
You said you assertion was based on observation. Empirical by definition implies just that "based on observation

It is clear you have no clue of the difference between quantitative an qualitative research and are just blabbing ignorantly

rosinkkit:
Yawnnn. Little boy, run along and debate your mates. I debated the meaning of those terms when you were in nappies.