rosinkkit:


Yawnnn. Little boy, run along and debate your mates. I debated the meaning of those terms when you were in nappies.

rosinkkit:


Not among the super rich class, the subject of discussion.

In wealth transfer within the super rich class, they are the worst, hence the lack of truly wealthy families and dynasties.

By wealthy families I mean wealthy families, NOT families with one very wealthy man in them. Those are not wealthy families.

aribisala0:
Say s the guy whining about being presumptively called Hausa
You have magically worked out my biography

The fact is this is an anonymous forum I will not indulge you by giving any biographical data but there is no basis for your assumption just your fragile ego

At any rate if you debated anything in 1940 or 1930 it is irrelevant .What matters is the quality of your "debates"

It is clear that you are incapable of any useful cerebral output
Whatever you came up with should remain in the dustbin where it rightly belongs

rosinkkit:
90% of igbo millionaires and billionaires are EXTREMELY selfish. THEIR OWN FAMILIES SUFFER, apart from the wife and kids.

They rarely do anything for their own communities apart from maybe distribute rice and provisions to the villagers at christmas.

You will see an Igbo man worth several millions of dollars. Some of his brothers/cousins etc will still be hustling on the streets, some even hawking.

You never see that with northerners. Once one of them is rich, and you see the brothers, you won't even know the one that is the big shot, because they're all solid.

When they travel to Dubai, you'll see up to 20 of them at the airport, from Alhaji to his brothers, sisters, mum, dad, cousins, drivers, hairdressers, house helps etc.

An Igbo man, if he travels with anyone, na him wife and maybe his kids. Finish.

More often than not, he just sneaks out alone.

I think the refusal of wealthy Igbos to share their wealth among their relatives and close kinsmen is a reason for the continued marginalisation of Igbos in Nigeria. Political influence requires that you have a large base of well-to-do elite. When you restrict that elite to a tiny club of monied men, your base is weakened, and easy to manipulate. It is very easy for others to take advantage of your group.

rosinkkit:


That was based on my empirical observation!



It's easy enough to tell you're a kid. Kids are always pedantic and quick to show us what they learnt at uni.

People like us have even forgotten we attended uni.



You need to return to the little rock you crawled out of like some recalcitrant ant.

juman:


Common!

Rosa, who are those wealthy families and dynasties in nigeria?
We dont have that kind of thing.

juman:
I salute igbos that go to their villages and bring their people to city and train them their trade and latter established them.
That is treasure.

Igbos are fantastically fantastical.

aribisala0:


Pedantic? Says the joker who has time to slice copy and paste
three different quotes
You forgot you went to uni? Is that dotage?

You are the one throwing around words like quantitative and empirical which makes me ASSUME you went to uni.

If you did it was a complete waste

People do not forget such things

Those who understand what universities are about never leave. They remain engaged with universities for life especially in issues of research and problem solving
Education is not an event. It is lifelong

rosinkkit:
90% of igbo millionaires and billionaires are EXTREMELY selfish. THEIR OWN FAMILIES SUFFER, apart from the wife and kids.

They rarely do anything for their own communities apart from maybe distribute rice and provisions to the villagers at christmas.

You will see an Igbo man worth several millions of dollars. Some of his brothers/cousins etc will still be hustling on the streets, some even hawking.

You never see that with northerners. Once one of them is rich, and you see the brothers, you won't even know the one that is the big shot, because they're all solid.

When they travel to Dubai, you'll see up to 20 of them at the airport, from Alhaji to his brothers, sisters, mum, dad, cousins, drivers, hairdressers, house helps etc.

An Igbo man, if he travels with anyone, na him wife and maybe his kids. Finish.

More often than not, he just sneaks out alone.

I think the refusal of wealthy Igbos to share their wealth among their relatives and close kinsmen is a reason for the continued marginalisation of Igbos in Nigeria. Political influence requires that you have a large base of well-to-do elite. When you restrict that elite to a tiny club of monied men, your base is weakened, and easy to manipulate. It is very easy for others to take advantage of your group.

Mfetenang:
Enyi, nobody owes you anything.
It is not the responsibility of another man who worked very hard for his money to feed you,go and speak to your politicians and ask them to tell the government to set up a proper welfare system so you can collect monthly allowances from the government if you're broke.

Depressed101:
you have little knowledge of the igbos, yet you talk like an open barrel of them.. Your obsession is on a high level,

rosinkkit:


Dude, you need to grow up. You so sound like a college kid.

aribisala0:
Most college kids are way more intelligent than you

You need to some making a fool of yourself online and stop talking ignorantly on issues you are ignorant of which would be almost everything

rosinkkit:


Bro....here's a suggestion: Why not take a hike? Just get lost. You don't like what I do, and I think you're an insolent pile of shite. Leave it at that.

aribisala0:
I do not allow myself to get emotional over ignoramuses. So liking or disliking is not something I indulge in

rosinkkit:


Exactly. That is why you are marginalised and dominated. This primitive mentality that fails to realise that empowering those around you is empowering yourself in the long run.

rosinkkit:


Fine. Now get lost!!!!! Vamoose!!!!

Or should I use koboko to drive you?

rosinkkit:


We have o..... Dantata, Dangote, Indimi, Abdulsamad Rabiu (a silent billionaire worth 3.5 billion dollars), Saraki, Babangida, Abacha, Danjuma. etc etc..... These are families in which EVERYONE IN THEM is stinking rich, from auntie to nephew to niece to distant cousin. It's like they all withdraw from the same account.

These families will continue to run things in Nigeria till Igbos wise up and build their own dynasties. Yorubas are kinda half way between Hausa-Fulanis and Igbos in terms of this generational intra-family wealth transfer and dynasty building.

rosinkkit:


Exactly. That is why you are marginalised and dominated. This primitive mentality that fails to realise that empowering those around you is empowering yourself and protecting your interests in the long run.

aribisala0:


More ignorant rubbish
Without education there is no empowerment


IS the banditry evidence of empowerment?
Are yuu talking about empowerment to kidnap school children?
or failure to educate the girl child and marrying them off instead?

Is that your idea of empowerment?

Virtually every index of misery and poverty is among the highest in the world and you think that is something to celebrate?

juman:


All you mentioned I can see only one name, that is dantata.
The great grandfather of dangote.

Fact is dangote you see today is because of his romance and patronage of politicians.
I put abdulsamad under the same context.

The others you mentioned, were armed robbers that robbed the country of tens of billions of dollars.

Igbos that established their shop boys are by far better than them.
By the way, I read that igbos have more than seventy percent of the houses in abuja.
Probably lagos the same.

But igbos have to develop their home region because one nigeria is a shaky union.

rosinkkit:


What is this one saying?

Go and READ all my posts. The angle of persisting poverty in the north has been addressed, and the peculiar reasons for that given. This debate is about POWER, and leverage, not about the 'economic conditions of the masses.'

This is what happens when you arrogantly interject in a debate without objectivity.

aribisala0:

Since you conclude that "Hausa -Fulani" are 95% of the super rich in the North then presumably they are also the most "empowered"

All the data show the opposite

The Yoruba in Kwara and Kogi remain the best educated in the North?

Remember the PRESSID scholarship scheme?

rosinkkit:


Empowerment in the context I'm speaking refers to POLITICAL empowerment. You need to read the thread from the start.

rosinkkit:


While you keep displaying your illiteracy and bushness.

I believe the world should be 'ignorance'..

aribisala0:

What has political empowerment got to do with millionaires?

Is Dangote a politician?

Who has he empowered politically and how did he do that?

rosinkkit:


Empowerment in the context I'm speaking refers to POLITICAL empowerment. You need to read the thread from the start.

Political empowerment flows from elite dominance. If the northern elite control the nation to an untoward degree, you counter them by raising your elite's financial profile, to challenge that dominance.

rosinkkit:


Absolutely everything.

The more sensible question would be ''What have millionaires to do with political empowerment?''

To which again, the answer is ''everything'', unless you don't know about Nigeria.



This is silly. Dangote could decide himself to run for president tomorrow and he'd win! Who doesn't know him? He's widely admired and respected by Nigerians. He is the very epitome of generational, dynastic family wealth leading to political dominance. Wealth generationally transferred from Dantata many decades ago, down to Aliko!

rosinkkit:
90% of igbo millionaires and billionaires are EXTREMELY selfish. THEIR OWN FAMILIES SUFFER, apart from the wife and kids.

They rarely do anything for their own communities apart from maybe distribute rice and provisions to the villagers at christmas.

You will see an Igbo man worth several millions of dollars. Some of his brothers/cousins etc will still be hustling on the streets, some even hawking.

You never see that with northerners. Once one of them is rich, and you see the brothers, you won't even know the one that is the big shot, because they're all solid.

When they travel to Dubai, you'll see up to 20 of them at the airport, from Alhaji to his brothers, sisters, mum, dad, cousins, drivers, hairdressers, house helps etc.

An Igbo man, if he travels with anyone, na him wife and maybe his kids. Finish.

More often than not, he just sneaks out alone.

I think the refusal of wealthy Igbos to share their wealth among their relatives and close kinsmen is a reason for the continued marginalisation of Igbos in Nigeria. Political influence requires that you have a large base of well-to-do elite. When you restrict that elite to a tiny club of monied men, your base is weakened, and easy to manipulate. It is very easy for others to take advantage of your group.

aribisala0:
See the quality of your mind

Very incoherent reasoning

How do millionaires in the north empower the political class that Ibos fail to do?

How do the North control anything more than the south?

The entire cultural direction of Nigeria is the south

The music the media, The internet and the entire cultural signature or Nigeria is southern.

education the stock exchange The capital market the banks

I do not recognize this picture of dominance you are painting
Lagos remains the dominant centre in Nigeria not Kano