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Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by mabea: 4:05pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz:I wish your commentary is bourne out of the desire to learn. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by hosemujica: 4:07pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Rebuke:That's the point we just want you all to accept that your church is a business that's all. 1 Like |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by denitro(m): 4:07pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
That's why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is still the best. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:07pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
denitro:Lies! Your churches are all the same...some are only better at "taming" their followers than others so as to continue to hide the truth which is that they are all nothing but businesa establishments. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Udoboss(m): 4:08pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Please read and understand the angle He came from.... If there is something I know since When I was a young till now is the exponential growth of Lfc.So ,if the Church over a year is stagnant something is wrong.... The new ones that started newly come and see multitude in less than a year....My friend was shocked and asked Wetin Winners dey do sef....We all laughed but it's The truth |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Originalblockbl: 4:08pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz: Same reason dangote or other top businessmen all over the world avoids going to these countries. It's all pure Biz✓ 2 Likes |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Udoboss(m): 4:09pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
obonujoker: To do what?.... |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Sammy07: 4:10pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I asked a question b4 urs. Answer mine and I'll answer you |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:13pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Sammy07:ok...so in a nutshell, God told Peter, and Paul, that the world He had in mind, when He sent them out to preach His Gospel to the world included the Gentile world. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Tareq1105: 4:13pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz: Ignorance to the things of the spirit. The last time you went to church service and you dropped #50 in the offering box, did anyone call you back or chastise you? Living Faith Church uses envelope for offering and the purpose is to prevent whatever you have brought as offering from being seen by anyone around you but God. Too much ignorance. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Sammy07: 4:17pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You've been defeated bro. Accept in peace |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by AmeLonRo(m): 4:17pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Salt06(m): 4:17pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
daygee12:Bishop Oyedepo built his first church when he was 16 in a village he was posted to after taking a part time teaching job as a youngster. He was posted to assist someone who was on maternity leave. He said to his dismay there was no church there even catholic so he began door to door evangelism after getting an interpreter. Before leaving, they erected a mud church. On his departure after 52 days of been in that village, he was gifted a lamp and the eldest man in the community presented it and prayed for him that the light he had brought to them would reach the world. He handed the church to the missionary church closest to the location. Even livigg faith headquarters in Otta that is budding now was formerly a bushy area |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by kennyamusan(m): 4:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
"church growth" is come to Jesus ...... Not "come to my church" 1 Like |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Tareq1105: 4:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: How would all these things happen when the resident pastor is not in his station? |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Sammy07:I am sorry, I don't follow... what have I been defeated by or of? |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Tobechuckwu(m): 4:19pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I asked u a simple question u fail to answer. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by TheMostComplex1: 4:19pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz: It's about the money nothing else |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:20pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Tobechuckwu:What particular question did I fail to answer? |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Nauttyprof(m): 4:20pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Knowledge they say puffs up and I would advise that you shouldn't be quick to judge others based on your knowledge of the scripture. To be quick to say this Pastor doesn't know what it means to bear fruit is really wrong in every sense. You should have understood the context from which he spoke rather than tackle him on a different perspective which does not relate to what he said. In the context of the Bible verses you quote, there is the fruit of repentance but this does not in anyway say there are no other fruits. There is bearing of fruits, the fruit of the spirit and several others. To bear fruits can also mean witnessing and winning souls for Christ. Kindly read John Chapter 15 completely. During the course of reading this, please take note of verses 2 and 16. Context is key when studying the Bible. Also winning souls still require fellowship. The Disciples are very good examples of these. They still encouraged fellowship even after winning souls. Shalom!! |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by mabea: 4:21pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Sanchez01:I choose to disagree with you on this. You may have had your experience (s) with other pentecostal churches but that shouldn't be a model to access all others. From my experience in LFC, I understand that the church is on a massive evangelism cum church growth drive since 2015 till date. There's also a very aggressive church planting agenda all around the world. I also know that being a living faith pastor is quite demanding. Therefore is is important to access the pastors' performance on the threshold of the mandate given to them. Now as it is, the mandate is to bring about the numerical growth of the church. Many pastors and some individuals have been commended and openly honored by Bishop Oyedepo for their exploits on the harvest field. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by drololaaof: 4:25pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
The analysis of higher end above is an isolated case though it may be common but it usually not to ALL of those sacked . If he read the letter well "for poor performance and inability to meet up to expenditure of there accommodation, salary and church maintenance, where worship centers are rented" . There is no society where we do not have black sheep those that were praised some of them might be doing worst things that is very unchristian. Do they call them to order ,ask for where they are having difficulty in their respective centers? We Christian's take joy in our member who backslide but the cultists will be finding ways for their member to reunite with them ,in a street where there are Catholics, Methodists , Anglicans , CAC, Gospel faith, MFM ,White garments, and faithfuls of other Pentecostal churches, muslims and atheists the number of souls you will win their are small except y you are reconverting them . The sack is not helping matter at all ,it either repopulate kingdom of satan or teach other pastors to do what is against the kingdom of God. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:25pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Nauttyprof:I am glad you agree that context is key to reading the Bible. So in the context that is John 15 vs 1 - 11, what is the fruit that Jesus Christ says we are to bear as those who abide in Jesus Christ ? What is the essence of the mentioned fruits to our existence as followers of Jesus Christ? |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by SEGLIZ: 4:27pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: how much do understand Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 to be according to your believe of what you typed? Jesus Christ never condemn the gardening of true children of His but the impostors of God's words and works. really Christianity and church is failed and is still failing humanity. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by aryzgreat: 4:27pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
I suspect this narrator framed up this story to defend his church. It's obvious the KPI is more people, more fund and not about spirituality of members. Bragging about growing number to over 100, spending 500k on band etc yet u pay d pastor 40k a month. How will a family man survive on 40k in this Buhari time? |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:30pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
SEGLIZ:Jesus Christ condemns the teaching of the doctrines and traditions of men as lies, an abomination to God in Matthew 15 vs 1 -14, that is in a nutshell, my belief. Now do tell me of this "gardening of the true children of His"? Your churches never were of Jesus Christ to begin with. The Church that belongs to Jesus Christ is the one built by Jesus Christ. All others are just dens of thieves, false prophets and teachers. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Gambit23: 4:32pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
HigherEd: Daft post. So winners church sacked a pastor that was called by God?? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Successdude(m): 4:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
remsonik: There is something wrong which we have to carefully reflect on if the world would take uss seriously : Have we thought about the SYSTEM that birthed such "pastors" in this "controversy" ? Reflect on that..... We need to sit down and talk and reflect on. Secondly, ordinary corona virus that RAVAGED the world , none (I mean no one) saw it coming ....... Think deeply about that. PS: for the second, we can't deny how fatal that is.... Shebi were still reading of how daday oyedepo is stating how he had warned nigerans in 2015 about dis govt. That goes to already confirm how it is referred that a MOG sees something ahead. Now with that truth, and whatever it potends, reflect on how disastrous not seeing corona by not even a single person is. Let's just leave argument with unbelivers and reflect. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Timigeofrey(m): 4:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz: your point will be reasonable if the said pastor doesn't collect their salary. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Karlzy01(m): 4:38pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz:Did you even read what he wrote? How much do you have to give to a Man of God? Sorry to say but you're lost and your opinion does not count. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Kobojunkie: 4:39pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Karlzy01:No be salary your Mogs dey collect for there? Abeg, open your eyes well!. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by BafanaBafana: 4:41pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
The man is trying to be clever by half. Someone was sacked because his church is running at loss financially, you are telling the story of another who was sacked for negligence of duty. 1 Like |
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