MrBrownJay1:

the problem you guys have is that you read your holybook upside down and take from it ONLY WHAT FITS YOUR AGENDA... while it is clear as day that Hagar was just a slave that was used as a surrogate, and thats why her son Ishmael was never recognized as Abraham's heir. how can Ishmael not be recognized as Abraham heir if he was indeed married to Hagar. ISAAC (son of Sarah) is recognized as Abraham heir... here read carefully below, and if you still dont believe that Ishmael was a bastard child made with a slave (not a wife), then you need serious English comprehension help:

Genesis 21-8
The child grew and was weaned, and on the day Isaac was weaned Abraham held a great feast. 9 But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking, 10 and she said to Abraham, “Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.”

11 The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son. 12 But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring[b] will be reckoned.

EVEN GOD REFERRED TO HAGAR AS HIS SLAVE WOMAN!!!!!!

But you are clearly the one with a set agenda here.

You are clearly told that Hagar was a slave who was given by Sarah, her mistress, to Abraham..

Nowhere are you told that Sarah first freed Hagar but you jump to that conclusion without evidence and you think I am the one with an agenda?

You conclude that because she is a wife, she ought no longer be called a slave 2woman, why, I dont know.

Also, If the slave wife has lesser rights than the free wife, why do you conclude that her children would have full rights despite their mother's status?

Kobojunkie:
But you are clearly the one with a set agenda here.
You are clearly told that Hagar was a slave who was given by Sarah, her mistress, to Abraham..
Nowhere are you told that Sarah first freed Hagar but you jump to that conclusion without evidence and you think I am the one with an agenda?
You conclude that because she is a wife, she ought no longer be called a slave 2woman, why, I dont know.

Also, If the slave wife has lesser rights than the free wife, why do you conclude that her children would have full rights despite their mother's status?

so you are claiming that a woman your GOD referred to as a slave woman, was Abraham's wife?!?!? really?! was your god going through amnesia when he referred to her as a slave? your GOD called this woman a "slave woman", how dare you now wanna call this slave woman "Abraham's wife" in order to fit your agenda?!?!?!? thats your god's word, what more do you need?

MrBrownJay1:

so you are claiming that a woman your GOD referred to as a slave woman, was Abraham's wife?!?!? really?! was your god going through amnesia when he referred to her as a slave? your GOD called this woman a "slave woman", how dare you now wanna call this slave woman "Abraham's wife" in order to fit your agenda?!?!?!? thats your god's word, what more do you need?

I dont need to claim it.... it is what is written there in the Bible for anyone without any agenda to comprehend.

Kobojunkie:
I dont need to claim it.... it is what is written there in the Bible for anyone without any agenda to comprehend.

whats there NOT to comprehend (from the horse's mouth)?!?!?

Genesis 12-12
But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman.

...continue trying to make a point where there is NONE to make, when you GOD has clearly spoken on the issue already.

MrBrownJay1:

whats there NOT to comprehend (from the horse's mouth)?!?!?

Genesis 12-12
But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman.

...continue trying to make a point where there is NONE to make, when you GOD has clearly spoken on the issue already.

Again, Hagar was a slave wife- she remained a slave to the first wife even in marriage and her husband knew this. So, What is wrong in referring to a slave woman as just that?

Kobojunkie:
Again, Hagar was a slave wife- she remained a slave to the first wife even in marriage and her husband knew this. So, What is wrong in referring to a slave woman as just that?

she was a slave that was used as a surrogate...thats why your god had no quarrel when she was thrown out of Abraham's house and sent to the desert, like a stranger. if she remotely was a wife to Abraham, then she would have been treated just like your god expects a man to treat his wife... unless of course you now claim that you god beliueve that you can send your wife to the desert to suffer, for no appearant reason, abi?!?!??!

MrBrownJay1:

she was a slave that was used as a surrogate...thats why your god had no quarrel when she was thrown out of Abraham's house and sent to the desert, like a stranger. if she remotely was a wife to Abraham, then she would have been treated just like your god expects a man to treat his wife... unless of course you now claim that you god beliueve that you can send your wife to the desert to suffer, for no appearant reason, abi?!?!??!

I honestly can't help you since you refuse what is written so you can continue instead spinning our own narrative in this.

Kobojunkie:
I honestly can't help you since you refuse what is written so you can continue instead spinning our own narrative in this.

i can only accept what is written AND SAID by your god...which is:

Genesis 12-12
But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman.

...keep on dismissing your own god's words, for your selfish agenda.

MrBrownJay1:

i can only accept what is written AND SAID by your god...which is:

Genesis 12-12
But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman.

...keep on dismissing your own god's words, for your selfish agenda.

You are only here picking here what you want and applying your spin to it to fit the narrative of your choice.

In the same book, the author of Genesis told the slave woman was given to Abraham for wife. Why do you throw that out so you can continue to insist that because she was called a slave woman she could not be a wife?

Kobojunkie:
You are only here picking here what you want and applying your spin to it to fit the narrative of your choice.

In the same book, the author of Genesis told the slave woman was given to Abraham for wife. Why do you throw that out so you can continue to insist that because she was called a slave woman she could not be a wife?

there are COUNTLESS contradictions in the bible, and this is just one of them. now you decide whether you wanna stand by the WORD of your god, or anything else! your "god" said she is a slave and not a wife (thus could be sent away), if you wanna believe that she isnt then fair enough.

MrBrownJay1:

there are COUNTLESS contradictions in the bible, and this is just one of them. now you decide whether you wanna stand by the WORD of your god, or anything else! your "god" said she is a slave and not a wife (thus could be sent away), if you wanna believe that she isnt then fair enough.

There are no contradictions as far as this story is concerned.

The only problem here is you are bent on making certain that this story fits your narrative... simple as that.

Kobojunkie:
There are no contradictions as far as this story is concerned. The only problem here is you are bent on making certain that this story fits your narrative... simple as that.

there are countless contradictions here, because you people believe that the word WOMAN (that was translated from the Hebrew, meant WIFE )....while it is as clear as daylight that this women WAS NOT viewed nor treated as Abraham's wife by Abraham NOR BY YOUR GOD

continue believing that a woman that your "god" called a slave (and that was sent away to the desert like garbage), was Abraham's wife.

Kindly read

https://www.nairaland.com/6660583/tips-woman-reach-orgasm

Habah

MrBrownJay1:

there are countless contradictions here, because you people believe that the word WOMAN (that was translated from the Hebrew, meant WIFE )....while it is as clear as daylight that this women WAS NOT viewed nor treated as Abraham's wife by Abraham NOR BY YOUR GOD

continue believing that a woman that your "god" called a slave (and that was sent away to the desert like garbage), was Abraham's wife.

Again... There are no contradictions as far as this story is concerned. The only problem here is you are bent on making certain that this story fits your narrative... simple as that.

Righteousness2:
Last days Prophecies are Raining on us...

JESUS Christ warned us about these times and the False Prophets that will be unleashed to confuse people to Hell.
1Timothy 4::1-2
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron"

The Sin of Fornication is a serious sin that GOD frowns against.

1Corithians 6:18-19
"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"

False Prophets/pastors and teachers are unleashed to Rope you into evil and Destruction using the Bible.

Beware of who you listen to! Your Soul is worth more than all these Nonsense that is all over the place in the Name of Preachings.
Heaven is Real!
Hell Fire is Real!

I respect your posts but I stopped taking you seriously ever since I noticed that you select threads to jump on.

You are simply hypocritical. I called you out on. Certain thread but you just ignored.

Stop this

One says: Give me 300 Youths, I will make them Millionaires by giving them 1 Million Naira each.

The other one said: 300 people who want God to make them Millionaires should come and drop 1000 naira on this altar.

One is called a Ritualist, while the other one is called a Pastor.

Awake Black Child!!!

Man wey sabi



Can't be a sin
Especially when you're doing it with a girl that looks like this

9ja girls are out to add more burden to your life instead of softening it.

In mosdii voice: They are all useless..... All of them!

Kobojunkie:
Again... There are no contradictions as far as this story is concerned. The only problem here is you are bent on making certain that this story fits your narrative... simple as that.

it fits your "god" 's narrative...what more do you need?! your "god" claimed this woman is a slave, show me where your god called this woman Abraham's wife.

she was given to Abraham to marry, which he never did but consumated the deed, thus thats why she can be treated like garbage while your god clearly stipulates that a wife should NEVER be treated like that. you decide playa!

To go church just comot from my body finish...

Holiness2100:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdqHycwGJFo

I can't believe this is happening in my lifetime. CHAI!!!

Me that is doing the do know that it's a sin.

This is what happens when a pastor samples what he has been castigating.

Body no be firewood.

Whoever is this man dealer is doing a very gr8 job, He his high but not of the most high.

LMAO! So it has reached the extent that some "men of God" will even try to manipulate the instructions from God Almighty!

Holiness2100:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdqHycwGJFo

Imagine fake pastors and their prophecies.

martolux:
You need to understand the the meaning of Fornication. Sarah was woman he first married. Sarah gave him Hagar when she could not conceive [an agreement was reached]. Abraham married Keturah after the death of Sarah.

What do u mean agreement was reach? Has there be a sex without an agreement? Do u mean there is holy and unholy agreement in regards to sex?

Omor nawa oo. Even we wey know say we no holy. Know say na sin. Bible talk so. Which kain pastors be this one??

Something we knew longtime ago, these church idiots are saying this be cause their revenues are declining.