Public Debate Between Uche Chuta and Reno Omokri on Igbo and Benin Precolonial Relationship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMSpGKDJHc4

Destroy wetin? That's like an interview.

Op, you be mumu.

I'm happy about this cause the so called igbos from South South claiming to be from bini are now called bini slaves

jimyjames:
I'm happy about this cause the so called igbos from South South claiming to be from bini are now called bini slaves

you don't love them again?


Chai Igbo
I tire for una

theTranscriber:
you don't love them again?


Chai Igbo
I tire for una

Did I tell you I hate them? I'm happy because stories like this will reset their brains to know that we their brothers from South East are the only true brothers they have, we have been killed and humiliated because of them but never denied them

Reno has soft pedal. In his previous post, he was trying to attribute so much to the Itsekiris.

The Itsekiris were traders, they buy and sell to those in the hinterland, buying slaves and selling to the Portuguese is understandable but they NEVER fought a war and captured slaves, they were under the protection of the Benin Empire.

The Igbos were never a united kingdom, attacking and capturing them were as easy as picking stones from beans.

Ok

jimyjames:
I'm happy about this cause the so called igbos from South South claiming to be from bini are now called bini slaves

Nna, I want to give this saga time to germinate before interfering.
There was a time Ika people, Ikwerre, Ọgba, Ekpeye and Omuma trended that they are Bini. That they come from Bini royal lineage through one run away Prince or the other but the Oba of Bini and Bini Court made it clear to them that none of their Prince were missing but they didn't get the hint. They attacked their kins all because of the omen surrounding Ndigbo after the War.
Now, Bini and recently Mr Omokri have come out to prove that they were super power in the ancient time. To show visible proof of their subjugated/conquered people, they are now saying that they once conquered the afamed unconquerable which is the Igbo people. To give visible proof of it, they want to point out their slaves. Who did they point at? The same Self hating Igbo that said they are from Bini. That is the same Ika, Ikwerre, Omuma and Ekpeye
In as much as it is logical because the self hating igbo claimed to be under Bini but the circumstances of their position in the empire is not acceptable in the Royal Court. They claim to be offsprings of Bini Prince but now they are being told otherwise, that they are slaves not royalty.
The bad thing here is that the Bini and Itsekiri are dragging the entire Anioma into this nonsense forgetting that it is only Ika that wants to be enslaved.
Anioma was formed in 1951 so the Bini/Itsekiri should point towards Ika and leave the good people of Enuani alone

BKayy:

Nna, I want to give this saga time to germinate before interfering.
There was a time Ika people, Ikwerre, Ọgba, Ekpeye and Omuma trended that they are Bini. That they come from Bini royal lineage through one run away Prince or the other but the Oba of Bini and Bini Court made it clear to them that none of their Prince were missing but they didn't get the hint. They attacked their kins all because of the omen surrounding Ndigbo after the War.
Now, Bini and recently Mr Omokri have come out to prove that they were super power in the ancient time. To show visible proof of their subjugated/conquered people, they are now saying that they once conquered the afamed unconquerable which is the Igbo people. To give visible proof of it, they want to point out their slaves. Who did they point at? The same Self hating Igbo that said they are from Bini. That is the same Ika, Ikwerre, Omuma and Ekpeye
In as much as it is logical because the self hating igbo claimed to be under Bini but the circumstances of their position in the empire is not acceptable in the Royal Court. They claim to be offsprings of Bini Prince but now they are being told otherwise, that they are slaves not royalty.
The bad thing here is that the Bini and Itsekiri are dragging the entire Anioma into this nonsense forgetting that it is only Ika that wants to be enslaved.
Anioma was formed in 1951 so the Bini/Itsekiri should point towards Ika and leave the good people of Enuani alone

Please remove Omuma
May be you mean Ogba/Omoku.

overall90:


Please remove Omuma
May be you mean Ogba/Omoku.

is omuma now igbos ?

BKayy:

Nna, I want to give this saga time to germinate before interfering.
There was a time Ika people, Ikwerre, Ọgba, Ekpeye and Omuma trended that they are Bini. That they come from Bini royal lineage through one run away Prince or the other but the Oba of Bini and Bini Court made it clear to them that none of their Prince were missing but they didn't get the hint. They attacked their kins all because of the omen surrounding Ndigbo after the War.
Now, Bini and recently Mr Omokri have come out to prove that they were super power in the ancient time. To show visible proof of their subjugated/conquered people, they are now saying that they once conquered the afamed unconquerable which is the Igbo people. To give visible proof of it, they want to point out their slaves. Who did they point at? The same Self hating Igbo that said they are from Bini. That is the same Ika, Ikwerre, Omuma and Ekpeye
In as much as it is logical because the self hating igbo claimed to be under Bini but the circumstances of their position in the empire is not acceptable in the Royal Court. They claim to be offsprings of Bini Prince but now they are being told otherwise, that they are slaves not royalty.
The bad thing here is that the Bini and Itsekiri are dragging the entire Anioma into this nonsense forgetting that it is only Ika that wants to be enslaved.
Anioma was formed in 1951 so the Bini/Itsekiri should point towards Ika and leave the good people of Enuani alone

But Ika is lumped together into anioma

Born2Breed:
Reno has soft pedal. In his previous post, he was trying to attribute so much to the Itsekiris.

The Itsekiris were traders, they buy and sell to those in the hinterland, buying slaves and selling to the Portuguese is understandable but they NEVER fought a war and captured slaves, they were under the protection of the Benin Empire.

The Igbos were never a united kingdom, attacking and capturing them were as easy as picking stones from beans.

You and Reno are saying the same thing.

Reno never said the Itshekiris conquered Igbos.

jimyjames:

But Ika is lumped together into anioma

It happened in 1951 na. Its not that far. Dennis Osadebay coined the term Anioma in 1951 on his own without anybodys consent. So such couldn't be a basis for Ika to drag the good people of Enuani into their personal slavery.
Asaba, Ogwashi-Ukwu Nri, Akwukwu-Igbo and the rest have always been known as Enuani from time Immemorial. So Ika should enjoy and maintain their slavery in peace

Reno is our new history teacher now.

jimyjames:

Did I tell you I hate them? I'm happy because stories like this will reset their brains to know that we their brothers from South East are the only true brothers they have, we have been killed and humiliated because of them but never denied them

You must be a clown

oyatz:


You and Reno are saying the same thing.

Reno never said the Itshekiris conquered Igbos.

We are not saying the same thing.

Reno is trying to be mischievous.

This Reno get wahala gan

Born2Breed:
Reno has soft pedal. In his previous post, he was trying to attribute so much to the Itsekiris.

The Itsekiris were traders, they buy and sell to those in the hinterland, buying slaves and selling to the Portuguese is understandable but they NEVER fought a war and captured slaves, they were under the protection of the Benin Empire.

The Igbos were never a united kingdom, attacking and capturing them were as easy as picking stones from beans.

You are not okay.

No man born of human ever penetrated Igboland and went Scot free.

Igbos had no useless kings that once captured everyone else bows down to the one who captured the king.
It made it hard to defeat Igbos. We had council of elders and leaders of age grades, as well as titled men council who all gather and take decisions.
We were way more advanced than primitive Monarchical societies where one retarded fat king dictated for all man.

Bini kingdom fell to British in matter of days, while the British needed decades to defeat the Enuani Igbo clan.
Aro-Anglo war was on for months. Full blown war.
No ethnicity in Nigeria, pre colonial or post colonial had more capabilities of withstanding and resisting tyranny, invasion or colonialism than Igbo land.

Stop bringing your beer parlour gist outside

The Igbo Reno is talking about are not Southeasterners.

It is the Igbo speaking people of Delta and Edo.

These people cant come out and shame us by saying "we are not Igbo" and at the same time expect us to believe that Bini passed their land to conquer the South East.


Mbanu.


The same way it is illogical that Eze Chima is a Bini man is the same way it is illogical that Bini penetrated, passed Anioma and crossed River Niger to enslave South Easterners.

BKayy:

Nna, I want to give this saga time to germinate before interfering.
There was a time Ika people, Ikwerre, Ọgba, Ekpeye and Omuma trended that they are Bini. That they come from Bini royal lineage through one run away Prince or the other but the Oba of Bini and Bini Court made it clear to them that none of their Prince were missing but they didn't get the hint. They attacked their kins all because of the omen surrounding Ndigbo after the War.
Now, Bini and recently Mr Omokri have come out to prove that they were super power in the ancient time. To show visible proof of their subjugated/conquered people, they are now saying that they once conquered the afamed unconquerable which is the Igbo people. To give visible proof of it, they want to point out their slaves. Who did they point at? The same Self hating Igbo that said they are from Bini. That is the same Ika, Ikwerre, Omuma and Ekpeye
In as much as it is logical because the self hating igbo claimed to be under Bini but the circumstances of their position in the empire is not acceptable in the Royal Court. They claim to be offsprings of Bini Prince but now they are being told otherwise, that they are slaves not royalty.
The bad thing here is that the Bini and Itsekiri are dragging the entire Anioma into this nonsense forgetting that it is only Ika that wants to be enslaved.
Anioma was formed in 1951 so the Bini/Itsekiri should point towards Ika and leave the good people of Enuani alone

Exactly they should leave my Enuani people out of this nonsense. My people have never had any doubts about their Igboness including me.

Ika and Ukwuani people that is full of bini lovers and Igbo deniers are the ones that should defend themselves.

BKayy:

It happened in 1951 na. Its not that far. Dennis Osadebay coined the term Anioma in 1951 on his own without anybodys consent. So such couldn't be a basis for Ika to drag the good people of Enuani into their personal slavery.
Asaba, Ogwashi-Ukwu Nri, Akwukwu-Igbo and the rest have always been known as Enuani from time Immemorial. So Ika should enjoy and maintain their slavery in peace

Thank you for saying this. Asaba and other enuani clans have always been comfortable with their Igboness. They never once claimed that bini nonsense.
I am Enuani indigene and was never raised to deny igbo identity.
See the progress Asaba is making today, there is a reason why so many south east igbos are developing the city. They feel at home at Asaba.

1hour!!
Na who get tym dor dat

horsepower102:


Exactly they should leave my Enuani people out of this nonsense. My people have never had any doubts about their Igboness including me.

Okay and Ukwuani people that is full of bini lovers and Igbo deniers are the ones that should defend themselves.

These Ika people funny sha. Whenever they want to absolve themselves of impending danger or attack fellow Western Igbo like during the war, they remember that they are Ika and semi Bini slaves but when it is time to lick Bini ynash as the slaves they are, they want to drag the term Anioma into it forgetting that it was coined in 1951 by one man. Now the Bini people have come for their slaves and they think they will drag others to their slavery.
No it doesn't happen like that.
All slaves should slave in peace and leave free people out of it

horsepower102:


Thank you for saying this. Asaba and other enuani clans have always been comfortable with their Igboness. They never once claimed that bini nonsense.
I am Enuani indigene and was never raised to deny igbo identity.
See the progress Asaba is making today, there is a reason why so many south east igbos are developing the city. They feel at home at Asaba.

Exactly.
It is in the gene

Ariani:


You are not okay.

No man born of human ever penetrated Igboland and went Scot free.

Igbos had no useless kings that once captured everyone else bows down to the one who captured the king.
It made it hard to defeat Igbos. We had council of elders and leaders of age grades, as well as titled men council who all gather and take decisions.
We were way more advanced than primitive Monarchical societies where one retarded fat king dictated for all man.

Bini kingdom fell to British in matter of days, while the British needed decades to defeat the Enuani Igbo clan.
Aro-Anglo war was on for years. Full-blown war.
No ethnicity in Nigeria, pre-colonial or post-colonial had more capabilities of withstanding and resisting tyranny, invasion of colonialism than Igbo land.

Stop bringing your beer parlour gist outside

Despite being impenetrable, the majority of slaves offspring's in the U.S.A today are Igbos. Who was raiding and selling out your forebearers?

Don't overhype yourselves, you are a conquered tribe that is still divided. The Igala was running over you from the North..... Don't let me start.

Born2Breed:





Despite being impenetrable, majority of slaves in U.S.A today are igbos. Who were raiding and selling out your forebearers?

Don't over hype yourselves, you are a conquered tribe that are still divided. The Igala were running over you from the North..... Don't let me start.

Don't be silly.

Igbos sold criminals among ourselves to Aro chukwu slave traders and their agents.
Sometimes prisoners of wars between two Igbo communities were also sold.
There were also internal Igbo kidnappers ( ndi ntori) who kidnapped people from their farms and sold to slave agents who themselves were Igbos.

Children who were stubborn to parents were sold into slavery by their parents.

Bad uncles dragging their late brothers lands, also sold their late brother children to slavery.

No non Igbo ever ventured into Igboland to capture Igbos and sell. Infact anyone foolish enough to try such would be captured as a slave himself and sold as slave by Igbos.

Igalas were well contained and pushed back by Northern Igbos( Nsukka and Northern Anambra groups).

BKayy:

It happened in 1951 na. Its not that far. Dennis Osadebay coined the term Anioma in 1951 on his own without anybodys consent. So such couldn't be a basis for Ika to drag the good people of Enuani into their personal slavery.
Asaba, Ogwashi-Ukwu Nri, Akwukwu-Igbo and the rest have always been known as Enuani from time Immemorial. So Ika should enjoy and maintain their slavery in peace

osadebey sounds 100% like an Edo name though meaning something like God averts evil

JEWELofHELL:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMSpGKDJHc4

So nnamdi kanu is a slave to the binis?

Ariani:


You are not okay.

No man born of human ever penetrated Igboland and went Scot free.

Igbos had no useless kings that once captured everyone else bows down to the one who captured the king.
It made it hard to defeat Igbos. We had council of elders and leaders of age grades, as well as titled men council who all gather and take decisions.
We were way more advanced than primitive Monarchical societies where one retarded fat king dictated for all man.

Bini kingdom fell to British in matter of days, while the British needed decades to defeat the Enuani Igbo clan.
Aro-Anglo war was on for years. Full blown war.
No ethnicity in Nigeria, pre colonial or post colonial had more capabilities of withstanding and resisting tyranny, invasion or colonialism than Igbo land.

Stop bringing your beer parlour gist outside

was parts present day Anambra, the Onitsha region not a colony of Benin?

By the way, British didn't defeat Benin, other Africans did. The people who destroyed Benin were from South Africa down to the Niger Deltas. Britain vs Old Benin one on one Britain would lose 99/100
When they came with their soldiers led by the clown Phillip they were butchered.
The brits did what they know how to do best, bribery, fake promises and lies. They promised other Africans bronze which was why the whole city was looted.

Walkee:
osadebey is 100% an Edo name though meaning something like God averts evil

What are you implying?