Boudiccao:


There is nothing like neutral source here and the authors are not incapable of making mistakes.
If you were not dumb yourself,you should have known that Nok is the oldest civilization(not empire) in Nigeria followed by Igbo civilization. You can't talk about civilization of the Niger area without getting to Igboukwu immediately after Nok.

Lol u are the dumb one

Same way that nok was not an Empire is the same way Igbo never had an Empire

See as u dey spill trash sef...

Are civilizations not made from societies..?

bomb24:



u confidently spilled trash. wtf is ibom dynasty? do u know the meaning of ibom.? the ruling house of arochukwu has always been okenachi dynasty an igbo family.

the akampas where just mare allies who supplied guns and foot soldiers to the aros like every other clan did wich were under the arochukwu confederacy.

And was has emotions got to do with this thread? why do u yolobas always sound foolish when facts are being tabled on ground during discussions like this, when u lots can't counter or debunk claims u lots begin to run like dogs on hit saying " igbos are too emotional and all other bullshit."

Ariana and co must have really caused you pain with the way they were able to handle this discussion.

Nope

Aros a re ruled by Akampka kings to this day of the Nnubi dynasty

They sold Eegboes as slaves for centuries

I thought you said Eegboe enwe Eze

Anywhere you find Kings it is due to conquest of Igala, Edo, Akampa etc

Etinosa1234:
They are a tribe who don't have a leader and are Republican but they have monarchical system that is of the same pattern with the Benin who they regard as inferior

One day, we'll talk abt if the Igbos were completely Republican as they say

Our pattern of settlement lends credence to our Republican nature. Every decision we make goes through many layers of deliberations; umu okpu( daughters of the land and very powerful) , ndi Nze na Ozo and its many categories( initiated noble class) , age grades , Eze ani ( head of customs and traditions) etc. These groups ensures checks and balance in dispensation of justice in many parts of Igbo land.

Bros , Igbo culture is so colorful by how everybody plays a role. For instance , I can challenge the position of our traditional ruler and call his bluff....but can you ever try that in Bini even if everyone knows the Oba is wrong. Dont you guys call him the "god"...for our philosophy , thats too much power given to one man who is probably not the wisest in the land. But , I respect your culture, still.

ayoola27:


Lol u are the dumb one

Same way that nok was not an Empire is the same way Igbo never had an Empire

See as u dey spill trash sef...

Are civilizations not made from societies..?

Did anyone say Igbo ever build an empire ? We had Nri ancient kingdom that has hegemony over larger parts of Igbo land and beyond. We are not empire builders.

bomb24:



u confidently spilled trash. wtf is ibom dynasty? do u know the meaning of ibom.? the ruling house of arochukwu has always been okenachi dynasty an igbo family.

the akampas where just mare allies who supplied guns and foot soldiers to the aros like every other clan did wich were under the arochukwu confederacy.

And was has emotions got to do with this thread? why do u yolobas always sound foolish when facts are being tabled on ground during discussions like this, when u lots can't counter or debunk claims u lots begin to run like dogs on hit saying " igbos are too emotional and all other bullshit."

Ariana and co must have really caused you pain with the way they were able to handle this discussion.

Confused people one minute you are claiming we are republican we are egalitarian next you are claiming dynasty

Make up your minds

The reality is that The Aros sold millions of you and are ruled by foreigners
When the slave trade ended the population of slaves expanded but the kings remain Akamkpa

Etinosa1234:
No man born of a woman ventured into Igbo land and made it out alive.. but they hate Gowon for wetin he use their grandparents eyes see

Well, the brother exaggerated a bit but in the precolonial era the Igbo hinterland was very scary and unforgiving.

ayoola27:


Lol u are the dumb one

Same way that nok was not an Empire is the same way Igbo never had an Empire

See as u dey spill trash sef...

Are civilizations not made from societies..?

All of you are dumb.
Igbos don't have an empire and Nok is not also an Empire but they are the oldest civilization in Nigeria so that dropping of nok in that article is historical inaccurate.


The article could have gone on to mention the empires of Nigeria without falsely adding Nok which is not an empire.
When it comes to civilization, Nok precede Igboukwu and the rest follow.
Dumbos.

... to hear an account of the Benin massacre of 1897 and its sequel from one who had taken part. It is a story that still has power to amaze and horrify, as well as to remind us that the British had motives for pushing into Africa other than the intention to exploit the natives and glorify themselves. Here, for instance, are some extracts from the diary of a surgeon who took part in the expedition.:- 'As we neared Benin City we passed several human sacrifices, live women slaves gagged and pegged on their backs to the ground, the abdominal wall being cut in the form of a cross, and the uninjured gut hanging out. These poor women were allowed to die like this in the sun. Men slaves, with their hands tied at the back and feet lashed together, also gagged, were lying about. As we neared the city, sacrificed human beings were lying in the path and bush—even in the king's compound the sight and stench of them was awful. Dead and mutilated bodies were everywhere — by God! May I never see such sights again! .

aribisala0:


Confused people one minute you are claiming we are republican we are egalitarian next you are claiming dynasty

Make up your minds

The reality is that The Aros sold millions of you and are ruled by foreigners
When the slave trade ended the population of slaves expanded but the kings remain Akamkpa

The Aros that sold slaves in my igbo community and settled in many igbo towns never identified themselves as strangers to other Igbos.

Igbo people didn't go by the term igbo back in the days, they all identified themselves with their sub group and Aro just like others wanted to maintain their sub group identity then. Aro is historically formed by almagamating igbo people and some Akpa folks.


Aro is an Igbo group.
Cry!!

aribisala0:


Confused people one minute you are claiming we are republican we are egalitarian next you are claiming dynasty

Make up your minds

The reality is that The Aros sold millions of you and are ruled by foreigners
When the slave trade ended the population of slaves expanded but the kings remain Akamkpa

You have always not been the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.

Name the Akamkpa rulers of Arochukwu?

Ariani:
... to hear an account of the Benin massacre of 1897 and its sequel from one who had taken part. It is a story that still has power to amaze and horrify, as well as to remind us that the British had motives for pushing into Africa other than the intention to exploit the natives and glorify themselves. Here, for instance, are some extracts from the diary of a surgeon who took part in the expedition.:- 'As we neared Benin City we passed several human sacrifices, live women slaves gagged and pegged on their backs to the ground, the abdominal wall being cut in the form of a cross, and the uninjured gut hanging out. These poor women were allowed to die like this in the sun. Men slaves, with their hands tied at the back and feet lashed together, also gagged, were lying about. As we neared the city, sacrificed human beings were lying in the path and bush—even in the king's compound the sight and stench of them was awful. Dead and mutilated bodies were everywhere — by God! May I never see such sights again! .

I am not sure what your point is .
Are you saying that this account of human sacrifice is correct? Wat exactly are you trying to tell us?

Ariani:
... to hear an account of the Benin massacre of 1897 and its sequel from one who had taken part. It is a story that still has power to amaze and horrify, as well as to remind us that the British had motives for pushing into Africa other than the intention to exploit the natives and glorify themselves. Here, for instance, are some extracts from the diary of a surgeon who took part in the expedition.:- 'As we neared Benin City we passed several human sacrifices, live women slaves gagged and pegged on their backs to the ground, the abdominal wall being cut in the form of a cross, and the uninjured gut hanging out. These poor women were allowed to die like this in the sun. Men slaves, with their hands tied at the back and feet lashed together, also gagged, were lying about. As we neared the city, sacrificed human beings were lying in the path and bush—even in the king's compound the sight and stench of them was awful. Dead and mutilated bodies were everywhere — by God! May I never see such sights again! .

Such were the doings of our sophisticated greatest empire ever build on earth. Civilization indeed!

Boudiccao:



The Aros that sold slaves in my igbo community and settled in many igbo towns never identified themselves as strangers to other Igbos.

Igbo people didn't go by the term igbo back in the days, they all identified themselves with their sub group and Aro just like others wanted to maintain their sub group identity then. Aro is historically formed by almagamating igbo people and some Akpa folks.


Aro is an Igbo group.
Cry!!

Aro that prided themselves as the greatest among Igbo groups.
They called themselves "Aro Oke Igbo".
Aros the great Igbo in English.

Aro cousins were the Abriba, Ohafia, Edda and Abam and they were tightly knitted people.

Dude you are replying is an old timer that goes by monikers like "Omonnakoda" and other stupid monikers, intelligence has never been his forte.

Ariani:


You have always not been the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.

Name the Akamkpa rulers of Arochukwu?

Direct that remark to your father he will be more helpful to you

Boudiccao:



The Aros that sold slaves in my igbo community and settled in many igbo towns never identified themselves as strangers to other Igbos.

Igbo people didn't go by the term igbo back in the days, they all identified themselves with their sub group and Aro just like others wanted to maintain their sub group identity then. Aro is historically formed by almagamating igbo people and some Akpa folks.


Aro is an Igbo group.
Cry!!

The whole purpose is to discredit Igbo just like they are currently making assumptions Nri was Igala.

Mangekyo:


At least our people are killed on a daily basis. Your people are being killed like chickens that you are
The current Chief of Defence of nigeria is from Ika, and I'm very grateful since we get to see the army use your elders to practice smackdown more I love seeing it

You call yourselves a majority tribe and yet you've never come in contact with the presidential sit since the greedy ironsi sold you guys to the fulanis as slaves

Whether you like it or not, you will remain in Nigeria and there's nothing you can do. Nnmafi cownu will be killed very soon and then if your dad takes his place as the chief of IPOB, he'll be killed too

You guys are a nuisance to the community. Yorubas see you guys are shits, same with ijaw people and Anioma people. We'll always be grateful to wike and Fulani people for always treating you guys in the language you understand. Dotted and landlocked zombies. Suck my dick bitch

. Fulani terrorist claiming to be Ika, mumu cow.

IDENNAA:



Such were the doings of our sophisticated greatest empire ever build on earth. Civilization indeed!

Very backward people who never added anything to civilization.
All they did was use superior weapons they got from Portuguese to raid Ikaland and Owoland for slaves for sale to the Portuguese in exchange for bronze they couldn't produce locally, and for the human/human parts they used for scarifices to their dead gods and to bury their fat lazy royalties.
A people who should be ashamed of their evil did in the past and tender unreserved apologies to all parties they wronged are busy boasting of non existent Empire.

Ndi Ara.

Ariani:


Lol!
I just discovered I have been chatting with a gworo chewing Bororo man all these while.
Lol!

Waste of time.

. Thank God you know, na Fulani terrorist be that, don't waist your time, that's how they crate different account using ibos and Yoruba name to divide and rule.

doublewisdom:
Were they up to 200 fighting men?

yes bro.

mancoconut:

Ika man (Bini slave with Igbo identity) relax... everything isn't about Ipob, we're having an open discourse so you be civilized and intelligent enough to put your emotional tantrums aside.

. Na Fulani terrorist you dey quote so, don't be deceived.

Boudiccao:



The Aros that sold slaves in my igbo community and settled in many igbo towns never identified themselves as strangers to other Igbos.

Igbo people didn't go by the term igbo back in the days, they all identified themselves with their sub group and Aro just like others wanted to maintain their sub group identity then. Aro is historically formed by almagamating igbo people and some Akpa folks.


Aro is an Igbo group.
Cry!!

The Eegboew pride themselves on their so called egalitarian nature when it suits them
Language is a lingua franca that does not establish identity
No matter what any of us say when our West African neighbours hear us they hear Nigerian not Egboew Ijaw etc


The Eeegbow identity crystalized around the time of the Biafra war. Certainly before that the Ngwa e.g denied being Eegbow

The point is Aros had kings . A dynasty that is not Eegbow they had culture and tradition e.g Ekpe society Nsibidi and cult traditions that ARE NOT Eegbow

You can deny that til next year but that is why they had no qualms trading the rest of you because during that era they did not identify with you

You were just neighbours who spoke a similar language

Think about it like this

Villager who had never travelled in the forest would assume that that was the whole world and the whole world spoke a variant of what they spoke. They would have no reason to identify with them

The Eegbow system of identity was the Clan

KosiGee:


Fixed. I’ve never seen anyone pray for his people to be killed daily. You must be a bigger fool than I imagined.

. You're quoting a fulani terrorist.

Etinosa1234:
The capital of Aro fell in 5 days...

The capital of Benin kingdom fell in 10 days..



But the way the Igbos chest beat, u'll think it took the British 20 years to get to their capital

Besides.. after the capital fell, there was also resistance from all other parts of the kingdom including the esans

See link below

https://www.nairaland.com/6664299/benin-didnt-fall-under-weeks

There was no such resistance.
Your mushroom village kingdom was captured in a single day.
The battle to get to your capital and your fat Oba is what took some, and all in total they took 9 days to totally subjugate the fabled Bini Empire that existed only in fairy tales.

Aros lost Arochukwu earlier in the campaign, but the war was for 5 complete months.

Even more humiliating is that Aro confrontation with British is recognized as war, hence it's called Aro-Anglo war, while what happened in Bini was not even a war, it was a mere routing expendition. That's how weak and useless your Monarchy that foolish Reno want to compare with his superiors (Igbos) was.

Ariani:
[s]

Very backward people who never added anything to civilization.
All they did was use superior weapons they got from Portuguese to raid Ikaland and Owoland for slaves for sale to the Portuguese in exchange for bronze they couldn't produce locally, and for the human/human parts they used for scarifices to their dead gods and to bury their fat lazy royalties.
A people who should be ashamed of their evil did in the past and tender unreserved apologies to all parties they wronged are busy boasting of non existent Empire.

Ndi Ara.[/s]

So much pains for the tribe u so despise

U want to compare the evils Benin did to that of the Fulani that is currently tormenting u now

aribisala0:

The Eegboew pride themselves on their so called egalitarian nature when it suits them
Language is a lingua franca that does not establish identity
No matter what any of us say when our West African neighbours hear us they hear Nigerian not Egboew Ijaw etc


The Eeegbow identity crystalized around the time of the Biafra war. Certainly before that the Ngwa e.g denied being Eegbow

The point is Aros had kings . A dynasty that is not Eegbow they had culture and tradition e.g Ekpe society Nsibidi and cult traditions that ARE NOT Eegbow

You can deny that til next year but that is why they had no qualms trading the rest of you because during that era they did not identify with you

You were just neighbours who spoke a similar language

Think about it like this

Villager who had never travelled in the forest would assume that that was the whole world and the whole world spoke a variant of what they spoke. They would have no reason to identify with them

The Eegbow system of identity was the Clan

Aro kings like most Igbo kings are no dictators, they are more like Chief priests, we call them Eze-ani/Eze-ali/Eze-ana/Eze-ala, etc depending on the Igbo clan .
And they were never non Igbo. AKum Nnubi an Akpa man, was honored initially for his role in helping Aro win the Ibibios with Eze Aro title.
But once he died, the Nnagwu lineage took over.

aribisala0:

The Eegboew pride themselves on their so called egalitarian nature when it suits them
Language is a lingua franca that does not establish identity
No matter what any of us say when our West African neighbours hear us they hear Nigerian not Egboew Ijaw etc


The Eeegbow identity crystalized around the time of the Biafra war. Certainly before that the Ngwa e.g denied being Eegbow

The point is Aros had kings . A dynasty that is not Eegbow they had culture and tradition e.g Ekpe society Nsibidi and cult traditions that ARE NOT Eegbow

You can deny that til next year but that is why they had no qualms trading the rest of you because during that era they did not identify with you

You were just neighbours who spoke a similar language

Think about it like this

Villager who had never travelled in the forest would assume that that was the whole world and the whole world spoke a variant of what they spoke. They would have no reason to identify with them

The Eegbow system of identity was the Clan

Total Gibberish!

Ariani:


There was no such resistance.
Your mushroom village kingdom was captured in a single day.
The battle to get to your capital and your fat Oba is what took some, and all in total they took 9 days to totally subjugate the fabled Bini Empire that existed only in fairy tales.

Aros lost Arochukwu earlier in the campaign, but the war was for 5 complete months.

Even more humiliating is that Aro confrontation with British is recognized as war, hence it's called Aro-Anglo war, while what happened in Bini was not even a war, it was a mere routing expendition. That's how weak and useless your Monarchy that foolish Reno what to compare with his superiors (Igbos) was.

Ur fabled Aro capital fell in 5 days...
Stop crying

Ariani:


Aro kings like most Igbo kings are no dictators, they are more like Chief priests, Eze-ani/Eze-ali/Eze-ana/Eze-ala, etc depending on the Igbo clan .
And they were never non Igbo. AKum Nnubi an Akpa man, was honored initially for his role in helping Aro win the Ibibios with Eze Aro title.
But once he died, the Nnagwu lineage took over.

So it is no no more Eegboew enwe Eze but Eegboew enwe Eze that are dictators?

Funny peeps


So other Eegbowes don't have priests?

Is Eze Aro priest of Ibini Ukpabi?

Guy The Nnubi dynasty rule to this day


Akuma and his brother were warriors
How did warriors morph into a Priest king?

What did the Eeegbows know about the Ibini Ukpabi , Ekpe society and the Akpa cults?

You do not even know how to lie

You lie like a child

Etinosa1234:


So much pains for the tribe u so despise

U want to compare the evils Benin did to that of the Fulani that is currently tormenting u now

We don't have issue with your Bini fairy tales.
In Igboland, Bini stories are known as fairy tales.
Our ancestors were amused by them. They couldn't understand why a fat not so brilliant man with Entourage of wives should be rulling a people and the people happily accepted.
It sounded unreal to them. They couldn't phantom such possibility.
It sounded like madness

Hence when some one tells a stupid non-plausible story, we say they are saying "Akuko Idu n'Oba" .

We don't tell you how stupid and weak we find your Monarchical system, because we generally mind our business.

But since the likes of Reno and you cannot feel good about yourselves unless you pokenose into Igbo history, we will henceforth tell you the ugly Truth we normally don't.

Ndo.

Ariani:


There was no such resistance.
Your mushroom village kingdom was captured in a single day.
The battle to get to your capital and your fat Oba is what took some, and all in total they took 9 days to totally subjugate the fabled Bini Empire that existed only in fairy tales.

Aros lost Arochukwu earlier in the campaign, but the war was for 5 complete months.

Even more humiliating is that Aro confrontation with British is recognized as war, hence it's called Aro-Anglo war, while what happened in Bini was not even a war, it was a mere routing expendition. That's how weak and useless your Monarchy that foolish Reno what to compare with his superiors (Igbos) was.

O kwa having a king and incorporating small edoid groups that paid tributes to them is what makes them an empire.
I wonder what they will say to Musa Mansa and his empire that had many West African countries under their control including parts of Northern Nigeria. Or is it the Roman and British Empire.

No be only Benin empire. At most what we have in Nigeria are just small kingdoms.

Ariani:
... to hear an account of the Benin massacre of 1897 and its sequel from one who had taken part. It is a story that still has power to amaze and horrify, as well as to remind us that the British had motives for pushing into Africa other than the intention to exploit the natives and glorify themselves. Here, for instance, are some extracts from the diary of a surgeon who took part in the expedition.:- 'As we neared Benin City we passed several human sacrifices, live women slaves gagged and pegged on their backs to the ground, the abdominal wall being cut in the form of a cross, and the uninjured gut hanging out. These poor women were allowed to die like this in the sun. Men slaves, with their hands tied at the back and feet lashed together, also gagged, were lying about. As we neared the city, sacrificed human beings were lying in the path and bush—even in the king's compound the sight and stench of them was awful. Dead and mutilated bodies were everywhere — by God! May I never see such sights again! .

The simple truth is this was a pattern of narrative used by colonialist across Africa to justify their intervention
If they could lie about weapons of mass destruction in the 21st century they could and did about other things elsewhere

They used Cannibalism as a pretext in other places especially in Ibo land e.g Arochukwu