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So guys, I have something to show you concerning HND and BSc in the US.

I will share a mail i got from one of the schools am applying to.

Note: I didn't do WES evaluation, Because they didnt ask for it.

The message is, Be intentional

So i applied to another University with my HND and they Specifically requested for Transcript evaluation by either WES or FCSA. I intentionally informed them that i do not have the Funds and time to do WES evaluation which they accepted and recommended i do FCSA. FCSA is little bit cheaper and the transcript i have was used to do the Evaluation. The report cam out yesterday and WHoooooop My GPA of about 3.02 became 3.36. Am hoping every other thing go well as i hope to be admitted.

Guys Be intentional

Daviduch19:
So i applied to another University with my HND and they Specifically requested for Transcript evaluation by either WES or FCSA. I intentionally informed them that i do not have the Funds and time to do WES evaluation which they accepted and recommended i do FCSA. FCSA is little bit cheaper and the transcript i have was used to do the Evaluation. The report cam out yesterday and WHoooooop My GPA of about 3.02 became 3.36. Am hoping every other thing go well as i hope to be admitted.

Guys Be intentional

Hello,

Is it a fully/ partial funded program?

GNwafor:
Fellow Friends;


Take Time to go through my reply about this thread:

Without mincing words, we cannot claim the ignorance of how the western world respect, honour, accept and revere our dignified Higher National Diploma. Our ND & HND certificate and curriculum is highly acceptable for higher degree admission. For most of the us who are myopic about the curriculum which we covered in our NBTE accredited National Diploma & Higher National Diploma program. It may surprise most of you who will read this thread to know that what you studied in your ND & HND curriculum is far higher than the required credit for a BS degree program.

My Story:

I studied ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu; and a Post Graduate Diploma (PGD) Piping Design & Engineering from MIT Pune India. Believe it or leave it. I apply for credential evaluation to World Education Service (WES) - New York USA in June 16, 2012. WES requested for the Transcripts to be sent directly from the Issuing Institution from Nigeria & India respectively. The Indian School sent their directly and it was honoured. I complete the required documentation for student from Nigeria, but they request for further verification from IMT Enugu Nigeria. IMT Enugu Nigeria, replied to their letter together with another copy of my ND & HND Transcript in the last week of February 2013. Then WES promised me that my evaluation will be ready on 7th March 2013. I guessed because of the weekend, the Evaluation - Course By Course Report from WES actually came out on 11th March 2013.

You will be amazed with what am about to reveal to you from the NBTE accredited curriculum ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu Nigeria.

This is it:

________________________________________
EVALUATION
Date: March 12, 2013
Ref#: 2347933

________________________________________
U.S. EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY

Bachelor's degree from a regionally accredited institution




CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1 Credential Authentication: Transcripts were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Higher National Diploma
Year: 2008
Awarded by: Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu
Admission requirements: School Certificate
Length of program: Five years
Major/Specialization: Chemical Engineering
U.S. Equivalency: Bachelor's degree
Remarks: The program included one year of industrial training.

2 Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Statement of Marks
Year: 2012
Awarded by: Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
Admission requirements: High school graduation
Length of program: One year
Major/Specialization: Design
U.S. Equivalency: One year of post-secondary study
Remarks: Upon completion of the program, Mr. Nwafor was awarded the Postgraduate Diploma in Piping Design.














________________________________________
COURSE-BY-COURSE ANALYSIS
________________________________________
INSTITUTIONS-DATES-SUBJECTS U.S. Semester Credits U.S. Grades
________________________________________

Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu

2003-2004

(L)Mechanics and Properties of Matter 3.0 B+
(L)General and Physical Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Statistics 2.0 A
(L)Logic and Linear Algebra 2.0 A
(L)Algebra and Trigonometry 2.0 A
(L)Technical Drawing I 3.0 B+
(L)Use of English I 2.0 B+
(L)Computer Appreciation 2.0 A
(L)Basic Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Basic Physics 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Geometry 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Calculations 3.0 A
(L)Mechanical Engineering Lab 2.0 B+
(L)General Laboratory Technology I 2.0 B+
(L)Plant Services and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(L)Citizenship Education 3.0 A
(L)Electrical Engineering Science 3.0 A
(L)Use of English II 2.0 A

2004-2005
(L)Thermodynamics 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations I 2.0 B+
(L)Mass Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Heat Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Fluid and Particle Mechanics I 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab I 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Drawing 2.0 A
(L)General Laboratory Technology II 2.0 B+
(L)Technical Drawing II 2.0 B+
(L)Communication in English 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Chemical Engineering I 2.0 A
(L)Differentiation and Integration 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Reactions 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations II 2.0 A
(L)Fuel Technology 2.0 A
(L)Instrumentation and Process Control I 3.0 A
(L)Safety and Environmental Control I 2.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab II 3.0 A
(L)Corrosion and Material Science 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Sociology 2.0 A
(L)Seminar 2.0 A
(L)Project Work 4.0 A

2005-2006

(U)Industrial Attachment ** 0.0 C
(**No credit was indicated on the original transcript)

2006-2007

(U)Advanced Algebra 2.0 A
(U)Advanced Calculus 2.0 A
(U)Laboratory Management 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations III 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab III 3.0 A
(U)Heat Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics 2.0 B
(U)Mass Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Statistical Methods 2.0 A
(U)Use of English III 2.0 B+
(U)Computer Programming 3.0 A
(U)Numerical Methods 2.0 A
(U)General Instrumentation II 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations IV 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab IV 3.0 B+
(U)Material Science and Strength of Materials 2.0 B+
(U)Fluid and Particle Mechanics II 2.0 A
(U)Polymer Technology 2.0 B+
(U)Communication in English III 2.0 B+
(U)Introduction to Psychology 3.0 A

2007-2008

(U)Chemical Plant Economics 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Reaction Engineering I 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations V 2.0 A
(U)Process Design 3.0 A
(U)Pilot Plant and Scale Up 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab V 3.0 A
(U)Industrial Management 3.0 A
(U)Food Science and Technology 2.0 A
(U)Pulp and Paper Technology 2.0 A
(U)Process Metallurgy 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations VI 2.0 A
(U)Equipment Design 2.0 A
(U)Process Control 2.0 A
(U)Plant Service and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(U)Safety and Environmental Control II 2.0 B+
(U)Petrochemical Technology 2.0 A
(U)Biochemical Engineering 2.0 A
(U)Seminar 2.0 B+
(U)Project Work 2.0 B+
(U)Literary Appreciation and Oral Composition 3.0 A
(U)Chemical Instrumentation Control 2.0 A

Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
2011-2012

Post-Secondary
Fluid Handling 4.5 A
Systems Engineering 4.5 B+
Layout Engineering 4.5 B+
Thermal Insulation, Cost of Piping, and Hygienic Piping 4.5 A
Material Specification, Instrumentation and Process Control, and Corrosion 4.5 A
Welding and NDT Management, Statutory Regulations, and Regulatory Acts 4.5 A
Stress Analysis 4.5 A





SUMMARY
Total Non-Accredited Post-Secondary Semester Credits: 31.5 GPA: 3.81
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 184.0 GPA: 3.76



Need to order an additional copy, go to http://www.wes.org/apply/xcopy.asp.

________________________________________

WES EVALUATION TERMS
Evaluation Scope: World Education Services (WES) evaluates only formal educational credentials. WES does not evaluate professional experience. WES evaluations are based upon the best information and resources available to professional evaluators. WES evaluations are offered as non-binding advisory opinions.
Accredited Institution: The status of a nationally recognized institution in another country is comparable to that of a regionally accredited institution in the United States.
Credential Authentication: Evaluations prepared by WES specify the manner in which each document was authenticated. The method used depends on what is appropriate for the specific country and level of education. WES authenticates academic records by one of the following methods.
• by requiring that official transcripts be sent to WES directly by the institutions or examination bodies that issued them;
OR
• by requiring that official transcripts be authenticated by the relevant government authority (e.g. Ministry of Education) before being sent directly to WES;
OR
• by verifying documents submitted by individuals by sending them back to the institutions/examination bodies that issued them and obtaining a written confirmation of their authenticity.
Detailed country-by-country document requirements can be viewed at www.wes.org/required/index.asp
Grades/ Quality Points: WES uses an alphabetic system to identify grades. The standard WES conversion of letter grades into a numerical scale/quality points is as follows: A = 4.00; A-=3.67; B+ = 3.33; B = 3.00; B- = 2.67; C+ = 2.33; C = 2.00; C- = 1.67; D+ = 1.33; D = 1.00; F = 0
• “F*” indicates a course that was failed initially, but passed on a subsequent attempt. It is not included in the GPA calculation.
• “Pass” is not included in the Cumulative Grade Point Average. For study completed at the undergraduate level, it corresponds to at least a “C” in the United States. For graduate and professional study, “Pass” corresponds to at least a “B”.
Grade Point Average (GPA) is calculated by multiplying the credits per course by the quality points for the grade for that course, repeating this procedure for each course, totaling the credit hour quality points thus obtained, and dividing by the total number of credits.
Course Level Designation: The designation “U” (upper) or “L” (lower) against a course at the undergraduate level is an indication of its level.
Credit Recognition and Transfer: The course-by-course analysis represents a breakdown of post-secondary study in terms of U.S. semester credits and grade equivalents. The number of credits accepted for transfer to a degree program or towards a professional license in the United States may vary from those listed in this report in accordance with the policies of the receiving educational institution or professional agency.
Evaluations for Professional Licensing/Certification: WES does not assess professional aptitude or experience. Only authorities qualified in the profession can determine whether an individual meets requirements for licensing or to practice the profession in the United States.




Matters Arising from the WES Evaluation:

In the US, a bachelors degree is completed in 4 years and as a BS degree student you are expected to earn/accumulate 120 credit points. But from my WES Evaluation, the combined years of studies for ND & HND is 5 years. From my ND & HND curriculum in Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu, Nigeria, instead of accumulating just 120 credits, I earned/accumulated 184 credit. (Please bear in mind that in the USA, in an MS degree, you are expected to earn just 36 credits, which if you compare with my ND & HND curriculum, you can see that I earned extra 64 credit more than a BS degree).
Also, in IMT Enugu, my ND CGPA is 3.41/4.00; and HND CGPA is 3.40/4.00. From the overall WES evaluation, my overall CGPA is 3.76/4.00.

So from the foregoing, I think that with all the threads that I have read about HND & BSc dichotomy in Nigeria, I think that if you have graduated with a HND from a Polytechnic or Monotechnic, strive for a US degree, and save yourself of unnecessary anxiety and disrespect from our BS degree counterpart.

Presently, am preparing to apply for an online MS in Engineering from a Nationally accredited university in the USA.

Note: WES Evaluation has made more proud about my HND & ND in Chemical Engineering. I will be monitoring this thread to know your comments and provide further detailed information.

Thanks for sharing

Daviduch19:
So guys, I have something to show you concerning HND and BSc in the US.

I will share a mail i got from one of the schools am applying to.

Note: I didn't do WES evaluation, Because they didnt ask for it.

The message is, Be intentional

I don’t see the need for hiding the name of the school. If the initial poster had hidden the information about WES, maybe we won’t be here but what do I know.

Daviduch19:
So i applied to another University with my HND and they Specifically requested for Transcript evaluation by either WES or FCSA. I intentionally informed them that i do not have the Funds and time to do WES evaluation which they accepted and recommended i do FCSA. FCSA is little bit cheaper and the transcript i have was used to do the Evaluation. The report cam out yesterday and WHoooooop My GPA of about 3.02 became 3.36. Am hoping every other thing go well as i hope to be admitted.

Guys Be intentional

Did you apply with only HND and what's the name of the school please?

Oh! I didn't Hide it intentionally. The name of the University is university of kansas

Nozino:
I don’t see the need for hiding the name of the school. If the initial poster had hidden the information about WES, maybe we won’t be here but what do I know.

Is a full time program

Naijagram:
Did you apply with only HND and what's the name of the school please?

Geenona:
I have read with keen interest most of the comments in here and I find it very interesting, absolutely interesting. My brother is a graduate of Public Administration from IMT Enugu (2009) and he made Upper Credit 3.36, HND. He is currently applying for his MSc program in 2 Universities in Texas. One of the schools require transcript evaluation from Foreign Credentials Services America (FCSA). And this is from the 1st page of his transcript evaluation from FCSA:

Equivalence
Four years of undergraduate study in public administration, plus a one-year
non-credit practicum between years two and three
U.S. Semester Hours / GPA
Undergraduate 141 Hrs / 3.01
Credentials
1 U.S. equivalency Four years of undergraduate study in public
administration, plus a one-year practicum between
years two and three
Country Nigeria
Credential Higher National Diploma
Institution Institute of Management and Technology
Date awarded December 2009
Length of program 5 years, including two-year National Diploma and
one-year non-credit practicum
Documents viewed Photocopy of transcript and diplomas

And this is a note from the second page of his transcript

[b]NOTES
Between the two-year National Diploma and two-year Higher National Diploma, Mr ............ completed a
one-year industrial attachment (practicum) in 2006-07. While the Higher National Diploma represents
four years of study, it is an applied degree and not equivalent to the more theoretical bachelor's

And here is an email my brother got from one of the schools:

Good Morning, xxxxxxx!

We have received all the documentation you mentioned in your email; however, the FCSA evaluation does not indicate that you have a U.S. equivalent Bachelor’s Degree. As a result, you do not meet the requirements for graduate school and your application will not be forwarded to the program. If this is an error, please contact the FCSA.

Should you have any questions, please contact me.

Thank you.

Gerry Dimas
Graduate Admissions Specialist

And this is me writing now: It is absolutely an error for FCSA to append that comment on page 2 of my brother's evaluation even when they have CATEGORICALLY stated on page 1 that the HND is equivalent to a US Bachelor's degree.


Now this is what my brother is doing
1. He has applied to WES to do same transcript evaluation. I will post WES http://www.wes.org/ evaluation report here when he gets it
2. He has contacted FCSA and is asking for explanations and correction of the contradictory statement on page 2 of his Transcript
3. This particular school that requested for FCSA evaluation is now saying they can accept WES evaluation (which is even far far better and more recognized than FCSA)
NB: The reason why he used FCSA in the first place is because this graduate school wanted the evaluation from FCSA otherwise WES is the evaluation services of choice even though it is more expensive: $286 to have transcript evaluation sent to 2 schools.

Take 'aways' from my brother's experience so far:
1. Yes, HND is clearly equivalent to US Bachelors degree and this lends to what a few people have posted here.
2. HND students complete even more credits than Bachelors degree students in Nigeria, they do more academic work!
3. HND students are ABSOLUTELY qualified to apply for Msc programs in the US and I assume anywhere in the world! NB: Admission depends on a lot of factors.
4. Don't take NO for an answer. Always challenge the status quo, ask why, what and clearly present your own facts. DON'T LISTEN TO STREET TALKS, e dey spoil matter

Follow ups:
1. I will post here WES evaluation once it is ready
2. Just incase you are wondering, I am a FUTO Engineering graduate, got my MBA and 2 other degrees from US (I didn't need any transcript evaluations though and this was many yrs back shaa....mgbe enu bu nke nwa osa..... )
NB: I will be watching this post for any questions I can chip in on....
3. I hope this encourages a lot of people out there.......YOU ARE WELL WORTH MORE THAN YOU CAN EVEN IMAGINE, HND OR NOT!! BE DILIGENT AND FOLLOW THE LORD JESUS!!!
4. Here is my brother's FCSA Evaluation:

U.S. Equivalence
Four years of undergraduate study in public administration, plus a one-year
non-credit practicum between years two and three
U.S. Semester Hours / GPA
Undergraduate 141 Hrs / 3.01
Credentials
1 U.S. equivalency Four years of undergraduate study in public
administration, plus a one-year practicum between
years two and three
Country Nigeria
Credential Higher National Diploma
Institution Institute of Management and Technology
Date awarded December 2009
Length of program 5 years, including two-year National Diploma and
one-year non-credit practicum
Documents viewed Photocopy of transcript and diplomas


NOTES
Between the two-year National Diploma and two-year Higher National Diploma, Mr.xxxxxx completed a one-year industrial attachment (practicum) in 2006-07. While the
Higher National Diploma represents four years of study, it is an applied degree and not
equivalent to the more theoretical bachelor's degree in Nigeria and the US. Credits have
been converted to US semester hours.

UNDERGRADUATE
INSTITUTIONS / DATES / SUBJECTS HOURS GRADE
Institute of Management and Technology, 2004-2009
Year 1, National Diploma, 2004-05
Elements of Public Administration I 2.0 B+
Theory of Administration 1.0 B
Elements of Government 2.0 B+
Principles of Economics I 1.0 C
Intro to Sociology 1.0 C
Business Math 2.0 B+
Intro to Psychology 2.0 C+
Principles of Accounting 3.0 C+
Use of English I 1.0 C
General Biology 2.0 C
Citizenship Education 1.0 C+
Nigerian Government & Politics 2.0 C+
Community & Rural Development 2.0 C+
Statistics 3.0 C+
Principles of Law 2.0 B
Elements of Cooperatives 1.0 C+
Local Government Administration 2.0 A
Principles of Marketing 1.0 B
Communication in English I 1.0 C
Intro to Computers 1.0 C+
General Chemistry 2.0 C+
Total : 35.00
Year 2, National Diploma, 2005-06
Use of English II 1.0 C+
Human Resource Management 2.0 C+
Local Government Administration II 2.0 A
Cooperative Development 1.0 B+
Computer Applications 1.0 B
Public Enterprise Management 2.0 C+
Cost Accounting 2.0 C+
Public Finance 2.0 C+
Research Methodology 2.0 B
Nigerian Government & Politics II 2.0 B+
Public Service Rules & Procedures 1.0 A
Intergovernmental Relations 1.0 B+
Project 1.0 B
Social & Economic Development 2.0 A
Entrepreneurship Development 1.0 B
Principles of Marketing II 2.0 B

INSTITUTIONS / DATES / SUBJECTS HOURS GRADE
Nigerian Labor Law 2.0 C
Office Administration & Management 2.0 C+
Auditing 2.0 B
Taxation 2.0 C
Communication in English II 1.0 B+
Communication & National Development 1.0 C
Total : 35.00
Non-credit industrial attachment (practicum), 2006-07
Year 3, Higher National Diploma, 2007-08
Use of English III 1.0 B
Constitutional Law 2.0 B
Intro to Local Government Finance 2.0 B+
Public Finance 3.0 B
Administration Theory I 2.0 B+
Nigerian Government & Administration 2.0 B
General Biology 2.0 C+
Organizational Behavior I 2.0 A
Cooperative Field Administration 2.0 B+
Development Administration 2.0 B+
Statistics 2.0 B
Rural Development & Administration 2.0 B
Administrative Theory II 2.0 C+
Research Methods 2.0 B+
Advanced Local Government Finance 2.0 B+
Small Scale Business Management 2.0 C+
Communication in English III 1.0 B
Organizational Behavior II 2.0 B
Total : 35.00
Year 4, Higher National Diploma, 2008-09
Local Government Administration II 2.0 A
Workshop in Administration 2.0 B+
Development Administration 2.0 B+
Industrial Relations 2.0 A
Public Personnel Management 2.0 B
Public Sector Accounting 3.0 C+
Advanced Computer Programming Packages 2.0 B+
Communication in English IV 1.0 B+
Material Management 2.0 B+
Public Enterprise Management 3.0 A
Project 4.0 B+
Comparative Public Administration 3.0 A

INSTITUTIONS / DATES / SUBJECTS HOURS GRADE
Public Policy Analysis 3.0 A
Comparative Local Government 3.0 A
Literary Appreciation 2.0 B+
Total : 36.00
Undergraduate Total Hours = 141
Undergraduate GPA = 3.01

It seems like they have the attitude to make this silly mistakes. They just messed up my FCSA evaluation. I have written to them and am hoping they do soemthing

Daviduch19:
Oh! I didn't Hide it intentionally. The name of the University is university of kansas

That’s surprising but ok.

Daviduch19:
It seems like they have the attitude to make this silly mistakes. They just messed up my FCSA evaluation. I have written to them and am hoping they do soemthing

Can you brief us of what happened?

Carmal90:
Can you brief us of what happened?

Exactly What Carmal90 Said. They Evaluated my ND and HND to be equivalent to US undergraduate. Then Went ahead to make a very contradictory statement.

I contacted them after back and forth emails they said in fact HND is not equivalent to BSC.

my 120 dollars don waka be that.

i for kuku add money do WES that is verified.

They also said they dont agree with WES which i think is why they are not Under the umbrella Body which WES is under.

AM focusing on the Schools that didnt require evaluation.

MSU
UTRGV
and West Virginia University

Daviduch19:
Exactly What Carmal90 Said. They Evaluated my ND and HND to be equivalent to US undergraduate. Then Went ahead to make a very contradictory statement.

I contacted them after back and forth emails they said in fact HND is not equivalent to BSC.

my 120 dollars don waka be that.

i for kuku add money do WES that is verified.

They also said they dont agree with WES which i think is why they are not Under the umbrella Body which WES is under.

AM focusing on the Schools that didnt require evaluation.

MSU
UTRGV
and West Virginia University

Bros, just try and do WES evaluation. Who knows what will happen tomorrow?

Nice one guys, the information here is enough for any serious h.n.d student who want to pursue a masters in the u.s

So I guesss to set the record straight, first step in all of this is to write the GRE exams first.

Then send your transcript to Wes for evaluation indicating Icap.

What will be a slight issue is the proof of funds.
Can anyone advice on how to solve that? Thanks in advance.

Firstinline:
Nice one guys, the information here is enough for any serious h.n.d student who want to pursue a masters in the u.s

So I guesss to set the record straight, first step in all of this is to write the GRE exams first.

Then send your transcript to Wes for evaluation indicating Icap.

What will be a slight issue is the proof of funds.
Can anyone advice on how to solve that? Thanks in advance.

The first step is to Evaluate your result.

Pls I need ur help on this
I also have HND in accounting from fedpoly ado Ekiti
How can I go about admission in the us

This is a lie
@ Everybody I am a living witness I am currently in the Virginia state, USA studying Master in Software engineering I had HND in computer science from The Federal Polytechnic Ado Ekiti and I was exempted from taking any prerequisites which is 15 credit hour because I have already done them in my ND/HND whereas there are some university degree holders that were made to register prerequisites courses I even had a friend from Uganda who has a university degree from Uganda she cannot register any courses because of prerequisites. Moreso, I have just sent my results to WES for evaluation, I will give you the true standing of HND certificate in the United State.

On most serious note ND/HND has more quality than university Degree it may sound funny because I have friends who attended universities in Nigeria.
1 Polytechnic Education does not give room for secondary education revision while in the university system most courses done in the first three semesters are secondary school subjects like biology maths econs physics etc
http://csc.futa.edu.ng/courselist.php VS http://www.fedpolyado.edu.ng/images/download/2013%20FPA%20Prospectus.pdf page 76

check the course outline compare and contrast NOTE this is not limited to FUTA i am just using it as an example it applies to virtually all our universities in Nigeria

2 Most Polytechnic students (ND) that crossed to university to complete degree are often best students of that set they joined in 200 level

3 Polytechnic systems are practical oriented learning system while university systems pay little attention to practical

4. In Federal & state Civil service HND & Bsc are being placed on GL 08 ST 02

5 Well in the university you may found many doctors and professors but while in the polytechnics are limited doctors but mostly master's and first degree but in the real sense those universities Doctorate degree holders are they truely Doctorate holders, Yes! I can authoritatively tell you most of them are bagging doctorates via godfatherism, if their godfather who is a professor transfer from UNN to OAU they will also transfer while most polytechnic lecturers" qualifications are gotten thru hard-working because almost all polytechnics are not B Sc. awarding institution.

But if you are judging by context of how university and polytechnic were created you may be wrong or right
you may wrong if NUC & NBTE were created for chop-chop purposes or they really meant it but in my own opinion I assumed the formal purpose of creation[/quote]

Hi Everyone,

I just came around to see the conversation around the subject.

Just for clarity and the ease of quick access to your Evaluation and Transcript, stop wasting your money and time on some cheap one-man business entity posing as Credential Evaluator, like FCSA. If you are interested to move on with your HND to Master's or even PhD in the USA, then, go with WES USA. Yes, the process is stringent but is doable.

Few tips on Admissions:
1. Not all Universities accept WES Credential Evaluation
2. Not all Universities and Programs require GRE/GMAT
3. There are over 4000 Universities and Colleges in the USA to choose from
4. Check on the University's website to which professors you will like to work in their research group and reach out to them
5. Stop wasting your time planning and only choosing a high ranking name - Universities, the rankings are mainly for undergraduate studies; at graduate education, the ranking belongs to the Department - What type of research is being conducted by the Professors, what industry research funding and grants are available, "Who" is the Departmental Professors in the global ranking in your chosen research field
6. COVID has made it even easier to gain admission as most schools waived GRE till May/September Semester 2022
7. Be a futurist, prognose where the future is moving in your chosen field of study, and then choose a course and Schools that have a high technical domain in this area, and then apply. For instance, for an electrical engineering HND Graduate, instead of just merely going for an MSc in Electrical Engineering, look for one that is focused on the Internet of Things (IoT), if you are a Mechanical Engineering Graduate, look for a course with great depth of Automation, if you studied Information Technology/Computer Science, you will be happy if you choose MSc in Cybersecurity. Other areas to focus on include, AI, Robotics, Machine Learning, Business Analytics, Drone Technology, etc.
8. Lastly, education is the quickest means and route to US Immigration, so don't joke with it.
9. So many universities in the USA waive the English Language Test requirement for Nigerians, but it is advisable to take the Test as it will help you to be competitive when you apply for external scholarships and fellowships in the USA.

Finally, keep pushing and keep winning.

Stay safe!

I will be popping in frequently to provide guidance.

I finally got my WES evaluation today.

HND- 2.98

WES US evaluated GPA- 3.34/4.0

US Equivalent: Bachelor’s Degree.

Very good and congratulation!

Yes, the process is doable.

Nozino:
I finally got my WES evaluation today.

HND- 2.98

WES US evaluated GPA- 3.34/4.0

US Equivalent: Bachelor’s Degree.

GNwafor:
Very good and congratulation!

Yes, the process is doable.

Thank you. The process may be time and finance consuming, especially getting transcripts, but it is definitely worth it.

Nozino:
I finally got my WES evaluation today.

HND- 2.98

WES US evaluated GPA- 3.34/4.0

US Equivalent: Bachelor’s Degree.

Congrats, the process has started.

Nozino:
I finally got my WES evaluation today.

HND- 2.98

WES US evaluated GPA- 3.34/4.0

US Equivalent: Bachelor’s Degree.

Pls what is the process like?

Congratulations

Carmal90:
Pls what is the process like?

Congratulations

Step 1 - Register on WES website

Step 2 - Pay for a course by course evaluation

Step 3- Write down your WES reference number.

Step 4 - Apply for your transcripts and have them courier it to WES. If you did your ND and HND in different schools, you have to submit different request forms. The transcript should be placed in a sealed envelope and stamped. Your WES reference number should be written on it. Please ask your school to use Dhl or FedEx. Do not use NIPOST!!

Bonus step- I didn’t know this was possible, but schools can actually send soft copies of your transcript to WES electronically. This step helped me bypass the whole verification stage.

Step 5- Wait and receive your evaluation

Nozino:
Step 1 - Register on WES website

Step 2 - Pay for a course by course evaluation

Step 3- Write down your WES reference number.

Step 4 - Apply for your transcripts and have them courier it to WES. If you did your ND and HND in different schools, you have to submit different request forms. The transcript should be placed in a sealed envelope and stamped. Your WES reference number should be written on it. Please ask your school to use Dhl or FedEx. Do not use NIPOST!!

Bonus step- I didn’t know this was possible, but schools can actually send soft copies of your transcript to WES electronically. This step helped me bypass the whole verification stage.

Step 5- Wait and receive your evaluation

Pls, after evaluation from Wes, will WES send a copy of the evaluated result to you??
Or, if i have to send the evaluated result, i need to pass through Wes again?
What will happen if i didn't gain admission this year and i want to use same result next year? What is the process like?
Regards

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Carmal90:
Pls, after evaluation from Wes, will WES send a copy of the evaluated result to you??
Or, if i have to send the evaluated result, i need to pass through Wes again?
What will happen if i didn't gain admission this year and i want to use same result next year? What is the process like?
Regards

Yes they will. You don’t have to go through evaluations again. You can use our copy or ask WES to send it to the school again for a fee. You can use it again. There’s no expiry date. I have outlined the process.

Carmal90:
Pls, after evaluation from Wes, will WES send a copy of the evaluated result to you??
Or, if i have to send the evaluated result, i need to pass through Wes again?
What will happen if i didn't gain admission this year and i want to use same result next year? What is the process like?
Regards

Yes WES will send you a copy of the evaluated result when they finish evaluation. You can use this on your own to apply for admission, or you can always request WES to send a copy to any school that needs it. The only difference with doing it yourself and doing it through WES is that when you do it through WES, in addition to the evaluated copy, they also send a certified copy of the transcript your school sent to them initially.

Update: Some institutions may require you to send your transcripts directly from the school(s) you graduated. Call or email and tell them that you have an evaluated copy as well as a certified copy of the original transcript coming from WES.

Nozino:
I finally got my WES evaluation today.

HND- 2.98

WES US evaluated GPA- 3.34/4.0

US Equivalent: Bachelor’s Degree.

Please did you upload any of your certificates (ND/HND) before or after making payment and is it compulsory that recipient 2 (the instructions that one is applying to for admission) be added when there's none at the moment of evaluation?

Thank you.

erul:
Please did you upload any of your certificates (ND/HND) before or after making payment and is it compulsory that recipient 2 (the instructions that one is applying to for admission) be added when there's none at the moment of evaluation?

Thank you.

I made payments way before I uploaded anything. I uploaded after I paid. You don’t have to add another recipient. If you do, the charges goes up.

Daviduch19:
So guys, I have something to show you concerning HND and BSc in the US.

I will share a mail i got from one of the schools am applying to.

Note: I didn't do WES evaluation, Because they didnt ask for it.

The message is, Be intentional

Wow!