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falseprophet:
Afghanistan is not in any chaos, the streets are safer now than when America were running things.

Taliban is already offering amnesty to saboteurs and it can only get better from here.

Don't let western media fool you into thinking "Afghanistan have fallen"

XXXXTENTACION:
bokoharam and nairaland zombie members are all happy at the victory of the talibans....
very funny set of northern illiterates.....

Jerryherd:
Lol

Since Trump deal in Dubai till 17 August 2021 what should Biden do differently amidst growing internal and external debt ... Need for SBA loan and EDD with other Stimulus package to stimulate American economy

Bro Biden pulled out intelligently and daring them to do their worst

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Meninmen:
Bro, there is nothing intelligent about Biden's pull out. On the contrary, it shows a white house that didn't have any contingency plans, that didn't do a proper risk assessment before the pull out, and that erroneously underated the Taliban. So you think need to stimulate the American economy and other excuses you gave is the reason for this shambolic pull out? Lol.

You will know Biden messed up big time when even the prime minister of a country that is the number 1 ally of the US (UK) is indirectly putting the blame for this mess on the US.

And for your information, economy, debts have never stopped the US from carrying out anything militarily!

Freebills12:
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The question should be 'is America really fighting this war for the Afghan or for herself?... bearing in mind that all the lslamic terrorist groups will converge at Afghanistan to fight her especially Al Qaeda

abbey621:
Forget the media hysterics and the political rhetoric, the USA had to leave afghanistan at some point. Trump started it and Biden completed it, what we are seeing now is the realizsation that all the money and the weapons/training given to the Afghan government was ofutufete, they are all one and the same with the Taliban. You can't fight people's war for them, it is clear the afghan people are in love with the Taliban, just like the Northerners are in love with Boko Haram, Herdsmen or whatever!

Lovenorth:
The flat head can never be allowed to head a vital position in this country forever

OmoEpe:
And igbos with IPOB/ESN

Jerryherd:


Mutual feelings... Not expecting any political logical comment from a flat header whose ancestors down to him and ethnicity of 30 million humanoid can't produce a fvcking President in 50 years , vice in 35, senate President in 15 , Speaker in 35.... I mean they can't even gain independence from a fellow black African Nigeria to have a Biafra Nation

I guess eating akpu is the only feat they are meant to achieve

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brightalo1010:
anyone that didn't support your baseless and useless sentiment is either fulani or yoruba, zuzurugi puo nu uzo. Even the platform you are ranting on is for who if I may ask. Your iberiberism won't let you think well beyond bigotry level.

wasting usa Tax payers money on a useless war in another man's country which Biden felt he no longer want is what you're here making noise about. Onye kwue okwu isi na obu MBA ozo. Ishi adikwa gi nma?

USA has left and you are free to send ESN UGM and IPOB there to fight for Afghanistan citizens since you have them so much in mind. Why are you on NL ranting? Onye Ala

kayjay69:
military strategists say the US cannot commit their entire resources to Afghanistan or any one country alone. if they do, they run the risk of other nations running wild. so you see, even if iraq was not invaded, i do not think the taliban could have been vanquished entirely.

a majority of the people there are deeply conservative. the US installed government was corrupt and inept, the people in government were the direct antithesis of the average afghani. so unless the US dropped an atomic bomb on the entire Afghan people and started all over (which is near impossible) then the outcome was always going to be the same.

just like vietnam, it was a lost cause from the beginning simply because the US felt as they always do that the people of Afghanistan would support them in liberating themselves from the Taliban.

there are countries out there that need true liberation, Nigeria for example, but you won't see the US come to our aid. Rather they would go to places such as Iraq and Afghanistan where not only are they deeply unpopular but they tend to overestimate their reputation.

Righteousness2:
Way back, we spoke on how America ( The Sleeping Giant) has become a shadow of itself.
I said here that America has become a bunch of Clown, heading for Destruction and on the edge of Oblivion.

The USA did not just become a world Power because they had the Dollar. It is GOD ALMIGHTY that makes Kings and Brings down kings. The POWERS that be are Ordained by GOD. GOD Blessed the USA and made her a Super Power.



The USA has over the years deviated from the laid down Godly Foundation of the Founding Fathers. The USA was built on Judaic Godly Principles but today it has become a Cesspool of Iniquity, Abominations, Lawlessness ,unGodliness and everything evil.

Trump who was seen as Unqualified and a Fornicator was GOD'S Mercy on the USA to turn them back to their root. I remember I kept vocing it here that Trump is a Mercy Period.

What is happening now to the USA is just a shadow of what is Coming. When GOD Invest in you and you mess up! Once your cup gets full , it is Disater and Destruction.

America today From its Leadership has turned its back on GOD.
GOD has also turned HIS back on her.

If GOD turned His First Born Isreal to a graveyard and drove them out of their land when they messed up, America aka Babylon the Great will not be Spared.

My Admonishment to all and sundry is this, in this Endtimes, there are Nations that are appointed for Destruction, so ensure you seek God's Face and Permission before you go on that trip, because GOD will only protect the Person he sends to a place.

kayjay69:
military strategists say the US cannot commit their entire resources to Afghanistan or any one country alone. if they do, they run the risk of other nations running wild. so you see, even if iraq was not invaded, i do not think the taliban could have been vanquished entirely.

a majority of the people there are deeply conservative. the US installed government was corrupt and inept, the people in government were the direct antithesis of the average afghani. so unless the US dropped an atomic bomb on the entire Afghan people and started all over (which is near impossible) then the outcome was always going to be the same.

just like vietnam, it was a lost cause from the beginning simply because the US felt as they always do that the people of Afghanistan would support them in liberating themselves from the Taliban.

there are countries out there that need true liberation, Nigeria for example, but you won't see the US come to our aid. Rather they would go to places such as Iraq and Afghanistan where not only are they deeply unpopular but they tend to overestimate their reputation.

Jerryherd:
Literacy means ability to read and write... Only a dunce would read a comment and call anyone an illiterate even after reading

You hypocrite Nigerian Christians... Joe Biden gave you options to volunteer yourself and head to Afghanistan if you so much care about Afghanistan citizens, he is just not drafting American citizens


Simple!!!!


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IjeBos:
It was the US Military's contingency plans. And no-one will believe they didn't have any. Plans are only as good as the intelligence you get and and I don't think Biden had intelligence saying the Afghan army we trained for 20 years at a cost of almost 100Billion US would lay their guns down and run away and the Taliban would take over the country in a week. Shit, the President fled. Maybe, they should have known. I believe in helping people, but I can't send my family to fight/die for you if yours won't fight/die for you. I was mad seeing all those young men fleeing the country... pick up a gun and defend your home.

Righteousness2:
Way back, we spoke on how America ( The Sleeping Giant) has become a shadow of itself.
I said here that America has become a bunch of Clown, heading for Destruction and on the edge of Oblivion.

The USA did not just become a world Power because they had the Dollar. It is GOD ALMIGHTY that makes Kings and Brings down kings. The POWERS that be are Ordained by GOD. GOD Blessed the USA and made her a Super Power.

The USA has over the years deviated from the laid down Godly Foundation of the Founding Fathers. The USA was built on Judaic Godly Principles but today it has become a Cesspool of Iniquity, Abominations, Lawlessness ,unGodliness and everything evil.

Trump who was seen as Unqualified and a Fornicator was GOD'S Mercy on the USA to turn them back to their root. I remember I kept vocing it here that Trump is a Mercy Period.

What is happening now to the USA is just a shadow of what is Coming. When GOD Invest in you and you mess up! Once your cup gets full , it is Disater and Destruction.

America today From its Leadership has turned its back on GOD.
GOD has also turned HIS back on her.

If GOD turned His First Born Isreal to a graveyard and drove them out of their land when they messed up, America aka Babylon the Great will not be Spared.

My Admonishment to all and sundry is this, in this Endtimes, there are Nations that are appointed for Destruction, so ensure you seek God's Face and Permission before you go on that trip, because GOD will only protect the Person he sends to a place.

Righteousness2:
Way back, we spoke on how America ( The Sleeping Giant) has become a shadow of itself.
I said here that America has become a bunch of Clown, heading for Destruction and on the edge of Oblivion.

The USA did not just become a world Power because they had the Dollar. It is GOD ALMIGHTY that makes Kings and Brings down kings. The POWERS that be are Ordained by GOD. GOD Blessed the USA and made her a Super Power.

The USA has over the years deviated from the laid down Godly Foundation of the Founding Fathers. The USA was built on Judaic Godly Principles but today it has become a Cesspool of Iniquity, Abominations, Lawlessness ,unGodliness and everything evil.

Trump who was seen as Unqualified and a Fornicator was GOD'S Mercy on the USA to turn them back to their root. I remember I kept vocing it here that Trump is a Mercy Period.

What is happening now to the USA is just a shadow of what is Coming. When GOD Invest in you and you mess up! Once your cup gets full , it is Disater and Destruction.

America today From its Leadership has turned its back on GOD.
GOD has also turned HIS back on her.

If GOD turned His First Born Isreal to a graveyard and drove them out of their land when they messed up, America aka Babylon the Great will not be Spared.

My Admonishment to all and sundry is this, in this Endtimes, there are Nations that are appointed for Destruction, so ensure you seek God's Face and Permission before you go on that trip, because GOD will only protect the Person he sends to a place.

Meninmen:
You really do not understand the issue here. The issue is not whether the US should pull out of Afghanistan. Infact, Trump was the President to sign a deal with the Taliban for the US to pull out of Afghanistan. Most Americans agree that it is time to pull out of Afghanistan, but it is the Manner in which the US pulled out that is the problem. I am a Biden supporter, but his advisers messed him up big-time.

goodheart02:
I was just trying to make a pinpoint on his way of describing the western media of which I'm sure he's still listening to BBC or CNN. I actually know of the Taliban offered amnesty, but you and I know they are likely not to honor it

descartes400:
Why I referenced Trump is because he would have done a better job than Biden!

Biden just blamed trump . It was trumps policy. That’s funny because so far Joe’s only policy has been to undo trumps , check the borders crisis. But in this calamity it’s all trumps fault . He is such a disgrace. Joe biden will go down as the worst president to live in the white house

Biden acts as if he was bound by the agreement President Trump made. The man has overturned virtually everything President Trump has done, doing so in this case would've been just another day at the office. What a lame excuse.

I agree the Afghans needs to step up to the plate, after nearly 20 years of support. However, the withdrawal without any pre-conditions is just another blunder from incompetent President Joe Biden

President Trump’s agreement was “conditions-based”. The Taliban ignored those conditions under Biden, and Biden ignored them as well. No excuse for Biden’s inept and disastrous pull-out.

This is not a question whether The US stay in Afghanistan. It is an issue of his negligence of planning and due diligence for a credible withdrawal. Yet still he tries to deflect.

As for the US mid-term Election slated for November next year is I believe the Republicans will claim the house back and probably impeach this inept President.

Meninmen:
You really do not understand the issue here. The issue is not whether the US should pull out of Afghanistan. Infact, Trump was the President to sign a deal with the Taliban for the US to pull out of Afghanistan. Most Americans agree that it is time to pull out of Afghanistan, but it is the Manner in which the US pulled out that is the problem. I am a Biden supporter, but his advisers messed him up big-time.

Righteousness2:
Way back, we spoke on how America ( The Sleeping Giant) has become a shadow of itself.
I said here that America has become a bunch of Clown, heading for Destruction and on the edge of Oblivion.

The USA did not just become a world Power because they had the Dollar. It is GOD ALMIGHTY that makes Kings and Brings down kings. The POWERS that be are Ordained by GOD. GOD Blessed the USA and made her a Super Power.



The USA has over the years deviated from the laid down Godly Foundation of the Founding Fathers. The USA was built on Judaic Godly Principles but today it has become a Cesspool of Iniquity, Abominations, Lawlessness ,unGodliness and everything evil.

Trump who was seen as Unqualified and a Fornicator was GOD'S Mercy on the USA to turn them back to their root. I remember I kept vocing it here that Trump is a Mercy Period.

What is happening now to the USA is just a shadow of what is Coming. When GOD Invest in you and you mess up! Once your cup gets full , it is Disater and Destruction.

America today From its Leadership has turned its back on GOD.
GOD has also turned HIS back on her.

If GOD turned His First Born Isreal to a graveyard and drove them out of their land when they messed up, America aka Babylon the Great will not be Spared.

My Admonishment to all and sundry is this, in this Endtimes, there are Nations that are appointed for Destruction, so ensure you seek God's Face and Permission before you go on that trip, because GOD will only protect the Person he sends to a place.

Meninmen:
You really do not understand the issue here. That the Afghan president fled his country is not the issue. That Afghan soliders and Afghan citizens couldn't defend their country against the Taliban is not the issue here. They can flee from the country and allow the Talibans take over, their cup of tea. The issue here is the Manner the US hurriedly pulled out it's troops from Afghanistan, emboldening the Taliban to capture more terrotries. Now, there are still Americans, and Aghans who helped the US who are still in Afghanistan. The hurried withdrawal has put their lives in danger. You saw how helicopter was used to evacuate occupants of the US embassy? The last time that happened was during the Vietnam war when the US came back embarrassed. Few days ago, Biden sent 1,000 troops back Afghanistan to secure the safe evacuation of Americans, allies, and some Afghans that helped the US. If this is not confusion, I don't know what It is.

It is a show of shame for the US. We are not even talking of America weapons that have fallen into the hands of the Taliban that will find their way into the hands of China and Russia. The pull out was shambolic, chaotic and embarrassing! I guess meeting the deadline for pull out was more important to Biden than ensuring the safe evacuation of persons and equipments.

Meninmen:
You really do not understand the issue here. That the Afghan president fled his country is not the issue. That Afghan soliders and Afghan citizens couldn't defend their country against the Taliban is not the issue here. They can flee from the country and allow the Talibans take over, their cup of tea. The issue here is the Manner the US hurriedly pulled out it's troops from Afghanistan, emboldening the Taliban to capture more terrotries. Now, there are still Americans, and Aghans who helped the US who are still in Afghanistan. The hurried withdrawal has put their lives in danger. You saw how helicopter was used to evacuate occupants of the US embassy? The last time that happened was during the Vietnam war when the US came back embarrassed. Few days ago, Biden sent 1,000 troops back Afghanistan to secure the safe evacuation of Americans, allies, and some Afghans that helped the US. If this is not confusion, I don't know what It is.

It is a show of shame for the US. We are not even talking of America weapons that have fallen into the hands of the Taliban that will find their way into the hands of China and Russia. The pull out was shambolic, chaotic and embarrassing! I guess meeting the deadline for pull out was more important to Biden than ensuring the safe evacuation of persons and equipments.

descartes400:
Trump ma Man!

Not only was he acquired he was also vindicated!

We await the mid-term election next year November.

IjeBos:
Lol. I think you are confused. "That Afghan soldiers and Afghan citizens couldn't defend their country against the Taliban" is the issue. If the Afghan soldiers could defend Kabul, then Taliban wouldn't have been there and all those images you saw wouldn't have happened. The US didn't plan on closing the embassy that soon, as they thought the Afghan army could stand up to the Taliban. So, there was a mad rush to close the embassy and evacuate everyone as the AFGHAN ARMY defected and let the Taliban take over the WHOLE country.

As to the weapons; most of them were already evacuated. The weapons the Taliban have are the ones they took from the Aghan army who defected (again, you see how that matters). Or do you think the US should have taken back the Guns, tanks and planes we gave them before we left. And China/Russia needs those weapons? lol. Jesus, get a clue.

And as to the helicopter. No, that wasn't the last time it was used.

Honestly, these aren't easy issues. Try to do more thinking and less talking. I'll post this again so you can get a better idea of what brought us here:
Trump made a deal with the Taliban (without the current Afghan government in the room), that by May 1st 2021 the US would leave. And the US wanted a cease fire until then. In return the Trump admin would release 5000 prisoners (one of them who is the Taliban Leader now). In the process Trump drew down the troops and all the supplies needed to maintain them from 14000 to 2500 which was finished the week before Biden was sworn in. He boxed Biden in and bragged about it. He effectively gave the country over to the Taliban. His own words.

https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1427325408148590597
"I started the process, All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. [The Biden administration] couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process."

So, on May 1st the Taliban was going to start a new offensive with the aid of the 5000 newly released prisoners. Biden had 2 choices, surge more troops in so he could have time to draw them down or pull everyone out (the same things the Generals told Obama more than 10 years ago); he didn't want to get again boxed in by the military to keep troops for another 10 years. He extended the deadline from May till Sept. He thought he would have 6 month then 90 days.. well until the Afghan army folded. Just to get an idea, Trump left 2500 troops there before he left, we have about 6000 troops there now just to offer protection for the evacuation. If Biden would have wanted to stay longer he would have needed to surge some people say another 100,000 troops to fight the Taliban.

Jerryherd:


Mutual feelings... Not expecting any political logical comment from a flat header whose ancestors down to him and ethnicity of 30 million humanoid can't produce a fvcking President in 50 years , vice in 35, senate President in 15 , Speaker in 35.... I mean they can't even gain independence from a fellow black African Nigeria to have a Biafra Nation

I guess eating akpu is the only feat they are meant to achieve

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Meninmen:
You really do not understand the issue here. That the Afghan president fled his country is not the issue. That Afghan soliders and Afghan citizens couldn't defend their country against the Taliban is not the issue here. They can flee from the country and allow the Talibans take over, their cup of tea. The issue here is the Manner the US hurriedly pulled out it's troops from Afghanistan, emboldening the Taliban to capture more terrotries. Now, there are still Americans, and Aghans who helped the US who are still in Afghanistan. The hurried withdrawal has put their lives in danger. You saw how helicopter was used to evacuate occupants of the US embassy? The last time that happened was during the Vietnam war when the US came back embarrassed. Few days ago, Biden sent 1,000 troops back Afghanistan to secure the safe evacuation of Americans, allies, and some Afghans that helped the US. If this is not confusion, I don't know what It is.

It is a show of shame for the US. We are not even talking of America weapons that have fallen into the hands of the Taliban that will find their way into the hands of China and Russia. The pull out was shambolic, chaotic and embarrassing! I guess meeting the deadline for pull out was more important to Biden than ensuring the safe evacuation of persons and equipments.