Janosky:


This is the ONLY Truth in your post.
The others are GIBBERISH misrepresenting the Bible based TEACHINGS of Jehovah's Servants.

Polytheist,Worshipper of 3 Gods pretending he is a Christian.

Janosky:


This is the ONLY Truth in your post.
The others are GIBBERISH misrepresenting the Bible based TEACHINGS of Jehovah's Servants.

Polytheist,Worshipper of 3 Gods pretending he is a Christian.

Janosky:


Job 38:1-7 & Genesis 1:26, JEHOVAH God spoke to the heavenly assembly of angels and morning stars,all spirits present at the Creation of man, the last work JEHOVAH did before He rested.
Hebrews 1:2, JEHOVAH made the universe through his first born Son, Jesus Christ, called "Wisdom/Craftsman" working at his Father's side.
@1 Corinthians1:24 & Proverbs 8:22-29.


Is your finger a person?
Luke 11:20 , Matthew 12:28, Exodus 8:19, holy spirit is God's finger.
The hand of JEHOVAH God, Ezekiel 37:1, 1:3.Psalms 11:4, God's eyes observe men,Do you agree that God's eyes, ears are persons?.

Janosky:

Luke 11:20 , Matthew 12:28, Genesis 1:2, holy spirit is God's finger.
Did you see "THE" attached to "ruach" spirit @ Hebrew lexicon of Genesis 1:2?
Why are you not honest?
It is holy spirit @ Genesis 1:2, Jesus explained it's finger of God @ Luke 11:20 , Matt12:28,
Is Jesus is LYING?
Do you know Scriptures more than Jesus?

[b]Spirit itself @ Romans 8:16,26 KJV before una change am.

Luke 7:35, Wisdom has many children?
Is Wisdom a person?
In your Bible sin seduces, is sin a person?
Death stings is death a person?

Greek word for "Helper" is masculine gender at John 14:16-17, holy spirit is personified as helper and as "guide" @ John 16:12-15.
The same manner Jesus personified Wisdom @luke 7:35.
Your Church microphone speaks? Is it a person?

Your phone speak? Is it a person?

Why do you jump up and not stay up?
Is a force at work?

In your Bible, Exodus 33:15-20, JEHOVAH had one on one conversation with Moses.
In your Bible, @ Matthew 16:13-17, Jesus had one on one conversation with Peter.

Bros, use your Bible can you show this forum, where holy spirit had one on one conversation with any believer?
From Genesis to Revelation, there is none.
Why ?

Psalms 110:1, Ephesians 1:20, Jesus sits at his Father's right hand.
Bros, who is sitting at God's left hand?
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freshboi88:


Oh so now wisdom is not a person ....but wisdom becomes a person in proverbs 8 abi...continue lying

freshboi88:


Oh so now wisdom is not a person ....but wisdom becomes a person in proverbs 8 abi...continue lying

Luke 7:34-35
!’ 34The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a man, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and of sinners!’ 35And wisdom was justified by all her children.

The context is different , Proverbs 8:22-29 proven to be the events about Creation.

Luke 7:34-35 is NOT related to Proverbs 8:22-29
Fresh WAILER lacks SENSE.

Hismasterpiece:


Don't mind them. They don't think for themselves. They let watch tower society think for them.

freshboi88:


So going by your logic angels are co-creators

freshboi88:


Go and respond to GardenofGod challenge to post Heb 1:8 in your Greek interlinear.

freshboi88:

Paul opposed Peter. The church led by James had doctrinal issues with that of Paul....don't fool yourself

Janosky:


Bros, go and change Hebrew Masoretic Text.
"Thy throne given of God"
Thereafter, delete Luke 1:31-32 and Rev 3:21 from your Bible.

Fresh WAILER lacks SENSE.

MaxInDHouse:
So if you believe the highlighted then what are you doing now?
After all you admitted that there are doctrinal issues in the early Churches, why do you want to kill yourself over doctrinal issues nah?
Keep deceiving yourselves!
If you're sincere that differences in doctrines is normal then you have no tangible reason complaining about contradictions or difference in doctrines!

Janosky:


Job 38
American Standard Version
38 Then Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel
By words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man;
For I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?Declare, [a]if thou hast understanding.
5 Who determined the measures thereof, [b]if thou knowest?
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon were the [c]foundations thereof [d]fastened?
Or who laid the corner-stone thereof,
7 When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

How many co Creators did Jehovah mention @Job 38:1-7?

How many co Creators did your own Bible mention @ 1 Corinthians 8:6?

How many co Creators did your Bible mention @ Hebrews 1:2?

@ Job 38:1-7 & Psalms 33:6, Hebrews 1:2, and 1 Corinthians 8:6, do you believe the CREATOR ?

freshboi88:

To show that it's normal to have doctrinal issues n doctrinal issues has its root in scripture. So u can shut up about it

MaxInDHouse:
So if you're sure it's scriptural then coming on social media to talk about doctrinal issues as if it's a crime on the path of those who aren't in agreement with you or others makes you a confused miscreant!

freshboi88:

But u r the one who claims oh u JWs are united n Christians are segregated by doctrinal issues. Our segregation is rooted in scripture.
But your unity is demonic not scriptural

DappaD:


The disagreement between Paul and Barnabas, the conduct of Peter and the reproof Paul gave to him was not as a result of doctrinal issues. When it came to doctrines, all the Christians were required to obey & feed on what the apostles prepared. Acts 2:42, 15:6-29

As for the highlighted, the same Paul and Peter you’re mentioning, wrote the following Scriptures:

1Corinthians 1:10
“Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought”

1Peter 3:8
“Finally, all of you have unity of mind, fellow feeling, brotherly affection, tender compassion, and humility.”

Heck, even their oga made this petition to God at John 17:20-23
“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.”

From the highlighted in Jesus’ prayer, if unity cannot be seen amongst you people claiming Christians, it then means you’re denying the fact that Jesus was sent by God!
So remind us again how your doctrinal differences in your churches is supported by Scripture?

Moreover, I’ve never seen anytime in history where Satan was an advocate for unity and love(John 10:11) in fact amongst God’s people, everything must be carried out decently and in arrangement because Jehovah is not an author of confusion(1Corinthians 14:33,40) therefore God’s people are to be united when it comes to doctrine. Ephesians 4:1-5

But you mean to say now that God is for disunity and confusion while Satan is for unity abi? Just hear yourself and see how stupid you sound!

freshboi88:

But u r the one who claims oh u JWs are united n Christians are segregated by doctrinal issues. Our segregation is rooted in scripture.

But your unity is demonic not scriptural

Hismasterpiece:
MaxInDHouse
Just answer this one question and let this argument die. Who was God referring to when He said, 'Let Us mae man in Our Image, according to Our Likeness'? Gen 1:26 Please answer this question in all honesty and let this argument about the trinity die.

Bishopkingsley:

There is
church traditional doctrine and there is
Bible foundation doctrine
All believers back then and now are united on Bible foundation doctrine
Which is do this in the name of the father the son the holy spirit this is where trinity comes from..
Now each church can defer in church traditional doctrine that where the Apostle defer on so note the difference
Now JW have left the Bible foundation doctrine and started to worship organizational doctrines and then they claim Jesus is an angel and holy spirit is just a force this are twisted doctrine which is from the devil
Now what is church tradition doctrines they are examples
Should women wear trousers
Is water baptism sprinkled or immersion
Can a second pastor that failed to do his job be placed in a new position just like what separated Paul and Barnabas which made the holy spirit intervene and asked them to separate
Many things are under church tradition doctrines which each church can chose the ones they want so as to move the main thing God called each one to do which is do this things in the name of the father the son the holy spirit
Matthew 28:19
New International Version
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
English Standard Version
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Berean Study Bible
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

DappaD:
So which one does Trinity fall under? Church traditional doctrine or Bible foundation doctrine? Because whichever it is, there is still that mire of confusion that springs up whenever Trinity is mentioned in any gathering.

Just the other day at work, some colleagues of mine were in a debate about the nature of God, one said God is mystery that you will need to see him first to know who he is, another said that God was an office that sends out one part of himself to do stuff. All these gibberish without Scriptural evidence yet there were okay arguing amongst themselves but when me the Witness wanted to chip in, that was when they demanded that I use the scriptures to explain who the true God was.

So according to Jesus, if there is no unity regarding doctrine amongst you and your brethren in your church, then it simply means you’re denying that Jesus was sent by God. John 17:23

MaxInDHouse:

You're deceiving yourselves because Jesus prayed for his true followers to have the same line of thought! John 17:20-23
Therefore it's either you don't understand what you quoted to support segregation or you're saying Jesus' prayer was ignored!


About unity! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3; Philippians 2:2
Perhaps Jesus and Apostle Paul were confused to have emphasized so much about UNITY!

Bishopkingsley:

Funny question if you read Bible well you will see trinity in this verse
You should know it under Bible foundation doctrine
This is the foundation of Jesus Christ
This is the reason God revealed Jesus to humanity
What next did Jesus do he then revealed holy spirit to humanity too,
the same way the father did Jesus equally did
Do this in the name of the father the son the holy spirit.... This is where we coin the word trinity if you don't like to call it trinity then call it it complete name
The Father
The son
The holy spirit
Matthew 28:19 ►
New International Version
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
English Standard Version
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Berean Study Bible
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

DappaD:


The disagreement between Paul and Barnabas, the conduct of Peter and the reproof Paul gave to him was not as a result of doctrinal issues. When it came to doctrines, all the Christians were required to obey & feed on what the apostles prepared. Acts 2:42, 15:6-29

As for the highlighted, the same Paul and Peter you’re mentioning, wrote the following Scriptures:

1Corinthians 1:10
“Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought”

1Peter 3:8
“Finally, all of you have unity of mind, fellow feeling, brotherly affection, tender compassion, and humility.”

Heck, even their oga made this petition to God at John 17:20-23
“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.”

From the highlighted in Jesus’ prayer, if unity cannot be seen amongst you people claiming Christians, it then means you’re denying the fact that Jesus was sent by God!
So remind us again how your doctrinal differences in your churches is supported by Scripture?

Moreover, I’ve never seen anytime in history where Satan was an advocate for unity and love(John 10:10) in fact amongst God’s people, everything must be carried out decently and in arrangement because Jehovah is not an author of confusion(1Corinthians 14:33,40) therefore God’s people are to be united when it comes to doctrine. Ephesians 4:1-5

But you mean to say now that God is for disunity and confusion while Satan is for unity abi? Just hear yourself and see how stupid you sound!

DappaD:
Therefore since Exodus 3:15 mentioned that Jehovah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it means they’re all the same person?

Jesus also made the following statements:

Matthew 24:36
“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”

John 14:28b
“The Father is greater than I am.”

Yet you claim Jesus is the same as the Father?

Mr Kingsley, please do your best to instill your teachings into the minds of awitness41, PeaceJoyLove and Nancy2020 because as it seems you’re having a hard time establishing your dominance around them. Meanwhile, when you come across the moniker “DappaD”, just forget about trying to put up an argument because I don’t even read long epistles that have no meaning to me.

Nancy2020:
I believe in Trinity
I believe Jesus is God Almighty and holy spirit is God Almighty so why are you acting like I have ever refused to believe something that catholic and many other Christians churches declare and what is in the Bible.

Nancy2020:
I believe in Trinity
I believe Jesus is God Almighty and holy spirit is God Almighty so why are you acting like I have ever refused to believe something that catholic and many other Christians churches declare and what is in the Bible.

freshboi88:

They emphasized unity because they knew human prejudices would always rear it's ugly head just as it was in the days of the apostles.
The unity been taught n prayed for was a unity in diversity. This is something u and ur ilks would never understand.

freshboi88:


They emphasized unity because they knew human prejudices would always rear it's ugly head just as it was in the days of the apostles.

The unity been taught n prayed for was a unity in diversity. This is something u and ur ilks would never understand.

DappaD:
Therefore since Exodus 3:15 mentioned that Jehovah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it means they’re all the same person?

Jesus also made the following statements:

Matthew 24:36
“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”

John 14:28b
“The Father is greater than I am.”

Yet you claim Jesus is the same as the Father?

Mr Kingsley, please do your best to instill your teachings into the minds of awitness41, PeaceJoyLove and Nancy2020 because as it seems you’re having a hard time establishing your dominance around them. Meanwhile, when you come across the moniker “DappaD”, just forget about trying to put up an argument because I don’t even read long epistles that have no meaning to me.