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Re: ...... by movado19: 3:48am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Empiree: No doubt, there is a very strong possibility (which I am aligned with) concerning Pre-Adamic Man and his development into the "Perfect Adamic Man" of the present, due to the verses: Q32:09... the trigger word for me is (sawaahu) Q15:29... the trigger word for me is (sawaytuhu) these mean to establish, to make even, perfect, uniform, etc...and this period that was used to achieve the perfection is known to Allah, but it is a clear pointer that a period was involved from Pre-Adamaic to Perfect Adamic, hence Allah's pointing to man's lack of gratitude or not using his sense of reason. My main concern is the cannibal/vampire Pre-Adam, lol. What was their divine purpose on earth apart from eating each other up?! Yeah, I also heard and read tafsirs concerning the angels' concerns as a reference to the "rebellious jinns" on earth then... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 4:42am On Jul 06, 2021 |
movado19:In most cases we just read Quran mechanically without pondering on the Ayat until someone triggers our reasoning. We also tend to assume the many tafasir are 100% forgetting they were human beings and gave their best shot. We are not supposed to pull up where they stopped.. Rather we should continue with our research. As Sheikh Imran Hussein and Sheikh Hamza Yusuf once said, "Islam is to be understood with time". "Quran can not be translated". Am telling you we don't understand and can never understand Qur'an fully. When issue like this is raised, many tend to disagree and revile. As time goes we look back and return to Quran. This Sheikh Ahmed Shorinola's explanation makes it clearer to me than former shuyukh. Tafsir is not wahy but ijtihad. My main concern is the cannibal/vampire Pre-Adam, lol. What was their divine purpose on earth apart from eating each other up?!this will have to be another research entirely but we may never know the fact. So basically, the idea that preexisting beings were Jinn is out of the way. |
Re: ...... by movado19: 12:24pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Empiree: Naam! 100% Regarding the bolded, independent and critical thinking is something that is seriously frowned upon today, hence the mass mental laziness seen everywhere. Here's a little read collating some of our predecessors' views on Pre-Adam... https://medium.com/@ryanhunter_23073/classical-islamic-saints-and-scholars-on-the-existence-of-previous-human-species-and-a5c1375565a2
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Re: ...... by Empiree: 2:39pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
movado19:see the question that's interesting. When our past Ulama speaks we better listen. When sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Ashile (ra) talked about seven (7) Adam's before our Adam many thought he was insane. Some asked for scientific proof and Qur'an evidence. Here we go, Alfa Ahmed Shorinola gave us something to ponder on. Jazakallahu khayran for this link
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Re: ...... by movado19: 6:26pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Empiree: When sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Ashile (ra) talked about seven (7) Adam's before our Adam many thought he was insane. As long as these men aren't speaking from the four walls of "IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS", then whatever they say is never taken seriously. Some asked for scientific proof and Qur'an evidence. ...people forget that the so-called science they are familiar with is practically playing catch-up with reality. A lot of what Allah unveiled to these men/Awliyah will take science hundreds of years to "discover". And as you stated earlier about Ijtihad, people do not want to employ it, rather they believe everything about everything should be stated verbatim in the Quran. Alfa Ahmed Shorinola gave us something trip ponder on He sure did. I enquired from him how he arrived at his conclusion about Pre-Adamic man being cannibals/vampires and according to his words: "I was led to the conclusion that they were cannibals by their descriptions of (blood-shedding and destruction)". Truly, blood-shedding could encompass various means and types, so I leave it at that, Allahu 'Alam. Jazakallahu khayran for this link Wa Iyyak. |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 8:51pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
movado19:Wooow, I like his conclusive wisdom here. You see, these Sufi people are well vast. They are the Islamic scientists then and now. I hope we can bring back this golden age even if it doesn't look like that of golden age. We still have Muslims around even in Yorubaland with these islamic sciences. But unfortunately there is powerful force that appears to suppress Islamic spirituality right there in Nigeria. The only thing they do is 'sheikh xyz said. this and that said'. They do not think and if you come up with different opinion, you get tagged mubtadi. Video of Sheikh Adam went viral recently where he said "you are not scholar as long as you continue to say "sheikh lagbaja so pe, tafsir ibn xyz so pe". "Instead, why dont you come up with your research and come up with your own proofs?" |
Re: ...... by movado19: 1:41am On Jul 07, 2021 |
Empiree: You see, these Sufi people are well vast. They are the Islamic scientists then and now. I hope we can bring back this golden age even if it doesn't look like that of golden age. I know a lot of people would be grossly offended that you termed them "Islamic Scientists", but the truth is that they are exactly that and more, as Allah pleases. They are the divers who have gone deep into the depths of the oceans of knowledge and brought to mankind valuable and everlasting gems. They are the torch bearers who enable those who wish to see, the light of Islam. I believe that the society we live in today does not foster the way to that path easily...indolence, laziness and ignorance are widely celebrated. You become an enemy if you make them think a little beyond their present capacity! We still have Muslims around even in Yorubaland with these islamic sciences. But unfortunately there is powerful force that appears to suppress Islamic spirituality right there in Nigeria. Na'am! It almost resembles the mass release of zombies as seen in some movies. The light is dimming in a lot of places, so you see so-called Muslims who are in reality "empty" in the inner. They frown upon spirituality and gladly embrace "group-think". This is in part due to a silent culture of despising anything aged, so you see the younger ones who belittle every and anything said by the older Shaikhs/Sufis; and in turn, the older ones have decided to keep shut, mind thier business and just watch the ignorants harm themselves. I am amazed that the frequent deaths of a lot of the older generation Sufis/Shaikhs does not rattle them to their bones! Knowledge is being drastically extinguished and the one-eyed man has become king in the land of the blind! There was one of the videos in Yoruba, I believe, by this same young Shaikh and he made mention of how masquerades came into a masjid and heavily attacked the people in there, including their Imam...he made mention of the fact that this could never have happened with the Shaikhs of old as they readily had and knew what to recite from the Quran against such oppressors, as now, everything is now termed haram, bida, unislamic, ebo ebo ebo, etc. He said it is very shameful how masquerades just had a field day with Muslims inside a whole masjid for that matter, so making such people bolder in the future to carry out even bigger attacks! To me, this is a classical case of Muslims who are now nothing but paper tigers...very easy to destroy! The only thing they do is 'sheikh xyz said. this and that said'. They do not think and if you come up with different opinion, you get tagged mubtadi. Video of Sheikh Adam went viral recently where he said "you are not scholar as long as you continue to say "sheikh lagbaja so pe, tafsir ibn xyz so pe". "Instead, why dont you come up with your research and come up with your own proofs?" Honestly, if one is firmly grounded and established in practicing Islam, whatever name they choose to call you should not even affect you negatively. The same people abusing you will be the same ones to crawl your way to seek solutions to their problems. Research is far from such people's minds. It is always easier to critisize and put down others. It takes nothing to destroy and a lot to build! My prayer is that most, if not everyone on this thread, should at least desire to acquire knowledge in complete humility! Do not look dowm on anyone because society deems it cool to do so now! Do not be quick to pick the mic and sing the bida song. Pray against spiritual blindness and deafness due to ignorance and arrogance. Our chief request to Allah is to be blessed with His light of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, insight, and foresight. Because the one who has all these is verily able to properly manage all or most of the blessings from Allah. Learn to carry out independent research and fight the spirit of indolence and laziness. As Shaikh Empiree mentioned some pages back, begin to befriend these older Shaikhs/Alfas/Sufis to gain priceless knowledge from them. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: ...... by Excel70: 1:32pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Eid Mubarak to my brothers and sisters in Islam |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 2:57pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Excel70:Taqabbalallahu minna wa minkum
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Re: ...... by Hendtime: 5:42am On Jul 21, 2021 |
See how abdools are giving themselves zobo Did you people believe all these lies? Smh |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 2:01pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Hendtime:this thread is not meant for you 1 Like |
Re: ...... by Hendtime: 2:32pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 12:27am On Jul 22, 2021 |
Hendtime:I know it is you again. You can't get over Islam session. talk about obsession |
Re: ...... by Hendtime: 1:52am On Jul 22, 2021 |
Empiree: Only if your Allah and Mohammed weren't obsessed with Jews and Christians |
Re: ...... by herdeyimikar(m): 11:34am On Aug 04, 2021 |
ikupakuti: @ikupakuti @emekaRaj @ladunal @Empire I found this thread two days ago and i have been feeling unhappy with myself. i feel like i have lost alot for 4 good years. chasing earthy things. i have been busy for the past two days going through this thread and here i am regretting of how i have lived so far. I dont pay attention to most of my dreams but believe me they do come through which always make me feel "this thing has happened before". I graduated from a madrasa (a tijaniyyah owned School Under the Leadership of Sheikh Hassan Ahmad Zaruq Pakata Almahdi Almuntazhar) But believe me i am more of the education type, i just make sure i dont fail any course at the modrasa then. Unfortunately, I don't revisit not read books which has made me forget most of the things i learnt. Here i am now, regretting about how i have lived so far. May the Almighty continue to bless and grant you for putting things like this up. Though i am still on page 25 of this thread and i pray I won't be tasked here at work so as to hasten my reading here. My question Does anyone here know Sheikh Hasan Zarouq? If yes, who is he in the other world 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 9:38pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
herdeyimikar:You're welcome brother. Hope you getting close to last page now lol. The truth is that many of us still come back to reread this thread, so no need to rush. I knew Sheikh Hassan Zarouq (May Allah bless his soul) , I saw him once during their maolud at around Oko olowo can't remember the year again. Though I heard so many stories about him especially his death . I remembered Dr. Abubakar Aliagan has to do a special programme on the radio then to debunk myth surrounding his death. Share with us what you know about him before and after his death. Thanks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 7:14pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
LadunaI:Was he Mokondoro? |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 7:43pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
Empiree:No, he was Tijanniya Sufi Sheikh. He was somehow popular towards the end of his life. Most of his exploit were hyped by his muridi then but no doubt his one of Tijanniya Sheikh in Ilorin. During that maolud, I was just laughing because there was some people (Murid) that was just collapsing anyhow under the pretext of jazb from the speech of guest speaker Dr. Shaheed Timehin (an Ahmadi). After the death of sheikh, his muridi were saying that angel has carry his corpse up that is not within the grave again lol. So Aliagan to has explained what transpired that day because his was an eye witness during his burial. You know someone of that name that's mokondoro? BTW did you know Aliagan then during those days Ilorin? |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 8:03pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
LadunaI:yes, I used to listen to Dr. Aliagan and Alhaji Olohun Oyin those days. I listened to his early morning broadcast on the death of Sheikh Agbarigidima(ra). I was one that broke the news in the hood lol. They didn't believe me until later morning. I was always up early due to classes. Those muridi, ehen, they can exerggerate exerggeration itself. They are too much. |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 6:19pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Empiree:Oh that's interesting. The duo are something else lol. They so much understand each other that even till present day they are still doing programme together albeit in another station - Harmony not the state radio again where I am currently. Dr. Aliagan is much more into academics now, lecturing at Unilorin. And his son happen to bagged PhD degree in one university inTexas at very young age recently. It seems there is this mentality among the muridi to always wanted to exaggerate their murshid lol or belittle other murshid exploit. I see that as unnecessary rivalry. The fact is that most of all these true sheikh are brothers especially in the world of inner meaning. |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 7:01pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
LadunaI:I thought he relocated to TX. Funny enough I didn't know him physically those days except Alhaji Olohun Oyin bcus the later was one of the lecturers at my college. But I could only identify Dr. Ali Agan by his captivating voice on the radio. It was a NLder here few years ago that sent his picture to me in TX. And one of the ways for me to remember Dr Ali Agan was his opening nasheed. I so much loved it to the extent that I would sing it on my way to school and got carried away on the roads. it seems there is this mentality among the muridi to always wanted to exaggerate their murshid lol or belittle other murshid exploit. I see that as unnecessary rivalry. The fact is that most of all these true sheikh are brothers especially in the world of inner meaning.Muridi are the primary problems for the differences amongst the Muslims today. Sometimes they just piss me off. This is why I like my individualism type of thing |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:22pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Empiree:No, he never did perhaps that picture May be from his visit to his son in TX, I guess. Because he is very busy with usual Friday programme and also his Islamic college An-Nur. #Yeah, and that is also result of sectarinism in Islam, each proofing their superiority over others. Infact I just pass once I see such thing unfolding. Is long you furnish us with those your beautiful stories and narrative. Perhaps you give us some little stuff now, is long overdue lol. |
Re: ...... by herdeyimikar(m): 6:56am On Aug 19, 2021 |
LadunaI: You have indeed seen him if truly it's at Oko olowo. As I said earlier on, my knowledge about spirituality is not significant but I know him to be a true and honest man while he was alive. He is known as المهدى المنتظر. He is also a Khaleefah of Tijaaniyyah sect. He was part of the three images that appeared on the wall of a mosque here in lagos some years ago along with Sheikh Jamiu Bulala rta and Sheikh Ibrahim Inyas Al-Khaolaqy. He died years ago. During his burial a mysterious lightning melt the sand, penetrated through it Qabr and took his body away. That is what I know till date although alot of people do see him in the other world but may the Almighty for give me of all my sins, I don't have any knowledge of the other world but I believe in it. I just focus on my Solder work kawai. |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:38am On Aug 19, 2021 |
herdeyimikar:Interesting brother. I could somewhat attest to his honesty as well because I couldn't imagine how he was able to lure an Ahmadi Scholar to their maolud. He seems very accommodating. About the mysterious light you talked about, can you give us details of what transpired that day if you're an eye witness? Narrate to us anything you know about his antecedent. We would like here some story about him. Thanks |
Re: ...... by Alhajiemeritus: 11:51am On Sep 20, 2021 |
Bakar1:Something brought me back to this thread. Something led me to do some research and I found out some things, I may not be absolutely right but let me share what I found out. A ruhaniya is not under a Khodam which is actually Khadim (servant). Ruhaniya is a general term for the practice of spiritual healing in Islam. It is a different spiritual science which only some people practice. Infact the practucioners are highly trained and they have to devote themselves to Allah completely. Back to the creature mentioned in this thread, the creature is a Khadim/Khodam. These Khodams are neither jinns nor angels, but they are the entities that guard each Surah of the Quran. These Khodams are powerful and they also have a number of good djinns under their control. I drop my pen here. Insha Allah, maybe one day we will revisit the topic of spirituality in Islam for Knowledge purposes. Thank you for reading. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ...... by Lekzytlekzydu: 2:17pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Salam alaikum brothers I have a vital information I want to give pls be do not accept prayers from Mr ikupakuti the prayer he gave me ,he told me it will attract evil jinns but he gave me a prayer to serve as a repellant but didn't repel anything ,jinn started disturbing and hearing voices ..I stopped d dua pls becareful ... |
Re: ...... by Alhajiemeritus: 2:27pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Lekzytlekzydu:Are you certain? Mr Ikupakuti left this thread some years ago. Did he mention the name of the prayer he gave to you? 1 Like |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 3:58pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 3:59pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Lekzytlekzydu:How come?. Did you communicate with him of recent or what?. We havent heard from him almost 4yrs now or he posted a prayer here that you grabbed later?. please enlighten us. How long you did this for? But I am afraid that you cutoff early bcus it is sometimes normal to come across the Jinn. I think i narrated a sheikh on this thread and "Jinn Stories" thread as well how they disturbed and tried to distract him from reaching his goal. Am afraid this is what happened to you but you gave up early. 1 Like |
Re: ...... by Alhajiemeritus: 4:17pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Empiree:I came across this Sheikh in my latest research. |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 4:40pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Alhajiemeritus:indeed 1 Like |
Re: ...... by Lekzytlekzydu: 8:34am On Sep 21, 2021 |
Alhajiemeritus:He gave me different types but I chose d Yasin he said I should do 19 Yasin everyday |
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