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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 7:46am On Oct 14, 2021 |
Godoverevery:That's exactly what many of them are here doing - screaming marginalization. While you are here insisting they are not marginalized - an obvious lie |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery(op): 7:51am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:If a beauty pagant that comprises both male and female is organised ....be honest who do you think we likely win ![]() Life is a war the earlier we all admit the better.....she decided to dwell on the negative comments than positive one's. She can't tell me nobody encourage her to carry on....they attacked her with her gender but men are attacked with there financial status.....which one is a lesser evil. We ain't meant to face the same obstacles......nobody is going to attack her on financial grounds which a man will face. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery(op): 7:54am On Oct 14, 2021*. Modified: 8:29am On Oct 14, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:Maybe is high time you Google the meaning of marginalisation ooooo. Is obvious you don't know the meaning of that word with this |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by advanceDNA: 8:08am On Oct 14, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:i should forget obvious facts...because it doesnt fit ur narrative..ok....i'll indulge you and your petty points 1...the right to propagate surname can be discussed between spouses.....the gorvenment ddnt make it rule, it started hundreds of years ago...may people dont even care about it...many people marry now without change of name..so i dont see how this is an issue killing women...women dont have to cry over this... 2...this is the 21st century oga....in the old days ..people wanted male children because they did more exploits in those days...now both genders fantastic...different people prefer different gender...i'd love to have a girl child... some people dont ..u cant demonize poeple for their choice.. people have their preference for different reasons,,,u cant hastily conclude what their reasons are for them...if i say all u have is fallacy now..u will say i dont know what fallacy is... 3...please u need to go to court once in while and see how divorce cases are judged...in fact judges rule infavour of the woman more than the men when it comes to child custody...so i dont what you mean by " her children being equally hers as her husband's" 4. oh u want the US law that a woman will commit adultry and still get to chase the man out the house to apply here in nigeria.... go to the US...95% man and woman contribute to the mortgage payment, share bills...thats why most judges split things equally..... and the only reason women get the house is when they get custody...the home goes to whoever wins the child custody...... nigga...nigerian men dont chase responsible women out of the house....no sane man chases a good wife out....even if he built it all himself... all this chase out of the house point u are raising are isolated cases...please mention somthing else... The reasons why there are more obstetrics and gynaecology men is same reason why there are more male neuro surgeons, more male cardiovascular surgeons and every other specialization of medicine.....it's resilience......men and women dont have the same risk and toughness appetite........the medical field is highly demanding as you go up... my elder brother was in the residency program after service.. many doctors dont even get into residency......more than 80% of them had to do their exams four times..an exam thats about 500k twice a year... many gave up including men...u think its every doctor that becomes a consultant....but once women are affected u people call it marginalization because more men decided to toughen it up.... |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by shaybebaby(f): 8:11am On Oct 14, 2021 |
Godoverevery:Gender is the one thing you can't change. Financial situation is some that has and does change with frequency. Whether or not she was encouraged is irrelevant. Her example demonstrates marginalisation. You bring up beauty contest. In a contest where male and female are expected to participate, if the judging standards are based on the features of one gender solely, then there would be marginalisation of the other gender If the standards are based on a mixture of both gender's quality AND enforced. Then there is less chance of marginalisation. Note I said enforcement. A scenario where if there is a breach, there are consequences. In her example, she was discriminated against with no repercussions for those who perpetrated it. So far, you deniers seem to only agree with examples like child marriages that happen in the North. Please tell me, when these older men do these to the children, what are the LEGAL consequences they face? Even if they do not face that, please tell me what societal consequences they face? Can you tell me of any deterrents to them perpetuating their acts of violence? My point being, if deterrents aren't put in place, the female gender still continues to be marginalised. If what happened to Coco happened where I am, she'd have some mullah in her bank account and those fellas would have been kicked out of the school. If it happened to and we swap gender for race, same outcome for you. You may not win the race even after you entered, but you would be able to punish those who attempted to stop, not because of your capability but your race. Race and gender being protected characteristics enshrined in law and whose discrimination is punishable by law. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by DigitB: 8:13am On Oct 14, 2021 |
Op this post of yours deserves to be sold as an NFT. You said it all. If only our ladies will start taking responsibility and stop playing the victim card, men will begin to appreciate them the more. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by advanceDNA: 8:17am On Oct 14, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:i should forget obvious facts...because it doesnt fit ur narrative..ok....i'll indulge you and your petty points 1...the right to propagate surname can be discussed between spouses.....the gorvenment ddnt make it rule, it started hundreds of years ago...may people dont even care about it...many people marry now without change of name..so i dont see how this is an issue killing women...women dont have to cry over this... 2...this is the 21st century oga....in the old days ..people wanted male children because they did more exploits in those days...now both genders fantastic...different people prefer different gender...i'd love to have a girl child... some people dont ..u cant demonize poeple for their choice.. people have their preference for different reasons,,,u cant hastily conclude what their reasons are for them...if i say all u have is fallacy now..u will say i dont know what fallacy is... 3...please u need to go to court once in while and see how divorce cases are judged...in fact judges rule infavour of the woman more than the men when it comes to child custody...so i dont what you mean by " her children being equally hers as her husband's" 4. oh u want the US law that a woman will commit adultry and still get to chase the man out the house to apply here in nigeria....fine... go to the US...95% men and women contribute to the mortgage payment, share bills...that's why most judges split things equally.....u think they are stupid in the US.... and the only reason women get the house is when they get custody of the child...the home goes to whoever wins the child custody, it could be the male.... Didnt Adele pay alimony and leave the house for her ex husband.....?? nigga...nigerian men dont chase responsible women out of the house....no sane man chases a good wife out....even if he built it all himself... all this chase out of the house point u are raising are isolated cases...please mention something else... 5. ...The reasons why there are more obstetrics and gynaecology men is same reason why there are more male neuro surgeons, more male cardiovascular surgeons and every other specialization of medicine.....it's resilience......men and women dont have the same risk and toughness appetite........the medical field is highly demanding right from the start....as you go up...women that are tough are consultants... .go and look at the statistics of people that fail or change from medicine right from year one, two, and three,....its a fvcking tough field for both genders that are not resilient....but once more women are affected...its the mens fault, its society, its the system....please stop it...its pathetic.. my elder brother was in the residency program after service.. many doctors dont even get into residency......more than 80% of them had to do their exams four times..an exam thats about 500k twice a year... many gave up including men...u think its every doctor that becomes a consultant....but once women are affected u people call it marginalization because more men decided to toughen it up.... |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by BRATISLAVA: 8:24am On Oct 14, 2021*. Modified: 2:03pm On Oct 14, 2021 |
CHoccolaTE:Lol, I'm not continuing. The thread is now theirs. We usually get these triggered retaliatory/trivializing threads once there's Mother's Day, International Women's Day and No Bra day. Even Mother's Day of all days, the day of their saintly mothers! Most males can't stand women as fellow humans. Everyday they say there's no marginalization, yet go ahead to perpetrate some. There can't be marginalization because their mom has a job, or maybe their sister is a hospital unit head. Or maybe because Beyonce earns more than they do. And the women talking, some will never reach their peak due to marginalization yet they are content. It's like people saying, "I'm not racist because I know some black people". |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery(op): 8:25am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:Not surprised at all with your submission at all.....so Islam permit girls to be married at young age and this isn't done only in the northern Nigeria but all Islamic countries.....the Muslim fill comfortable with it because is there religious belief which we must respect even if some of us don't like it. Coco is just play victim card here. Was she stopped from buying the form?? Did any law said she can't contest?? If she got the form will her name not be on the ballot?? And please Google the meaning of marginalisation because seem most y'all don't know the meaning of that word. I insist coco would have been marginalised if she was stopped by any law banning her from getting the form to contest. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by BRATISLAVA: 8:29am On Oct 14, 2021 |
cococandy:Done, too. One can't expect them to accept the truth. That would mean having to share privileges with females and accord them respect as humans. And that would be unacceptable to them. It would mean making Nigeria like the West that they love to hate. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 8:34am On Oct 14, 2021 |
Godoverevery:Here's the meaning ig marginalization. Enjoy
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by angelfallz(m): 8:39am On Oct 14, 2021 |
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by angelfallz(m): 8:40am On Oct 14, 2021 |
And you're making victim hood mentality comments. FreeIgboho: |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Walkee: 8:40am On Oct 14, 2021 |
PrimadonnaO:this north narrative sef is rubbish. The female children that are forced to marry at 12 have brothers that are left on the streets at age 9, the females are forced to marry, the males are ignored to either follow a trailer down south to scavenge metal, beg or worse still, left at the mercy of Boko Haram and bandits recruiters. These only in the poorest of poor families. Well to do homes in the North don't marry off their children or leave them at the mercy of BH. I was told by my friends in kano that girls are paid to go to school in Jigawa. The boys are given scholarship too but those of the girls is 4x higher than the ones given to their male counterparts. My Fulani friend has a girl who is betrothed to him, she finished secondary school and refused to write jamb, she declared she wants to get married. My friend begged her to carry jamb she refused, he gave her money to buy form she used it to buy clothes and hair. He has decided to do the wedding in a couple of months. You will now see someone like that now and still type that Northern girls are denied education. Any family where a Northern girl is forced to marry at 12, her brother is in the South picking condemn iron or helping BH to clean Ak-47 |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 8:41am On Oct 14, 2021 |
advanceDNA:You know this is also what whites do about blacks. They'll tell you discrimination ended long ago and enumerate how blacks are even the ones favored. Yet you look at all the juicy positions and you hardly see any blacks. I asked Google for you. Below is what it says. Godoverevery u wanted Google. Here's more Google for you
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by advanceDNA: 8:48am On Oct 14, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:....u dialogue with emotions..not objectively or with data.. ..when peoplee counter your opinion...u don't seem to have a countee comeback ...but u just want them to accept you say so without showing significant evidence.. You:Women are marginalized... Me: Show me significant proof..not isolated cases.. You: no, forget it..just accept it...it's the same thing with blacks and white |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 8:48am On Oct 14, 2021 |
angelfallz:We decided to let Google settle it. See above |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 8:52am On Oct 14, 2021 |
advanceDNA:I just showed you what GOOGLE has to say about the affair. Google, not me.. What can be more objective than that?? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by PrimadonnaO(f): 8:58am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:Because it was a case of student political bigwigs... not a law in the students' handbook. She could have naturally ignored them, and gone on to make her case with the authorities who mattered. The girl child is marginalized. Give us an example. My fellow students didn't let me vie for the office of president because they said they'd rather a male. Shaybebaby,do you also think that's admissible? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery(op): 9:00am On Oct 14, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:See what you are saying and asking is for men to hand over power to women......we can't all be leaders is common sense. Ofcos is Google....we have lot of woman pushing that agenda of marginalisation making it looks like is the men fault. No two people can be truly equal.... If a woman wants to feel equal to her man and want equal say....she should woo him,provide shelter,cloth him,pay groom price and finance the wedding...then she has earn the right. Very simple something. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Walkee: 9:08am On Oct 14, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:lol 1. It is absurd to compare race and gender. 2. Google are at the very forefront of promoting this gender narrative that's like asking Adamu Garba if sharia is good or bad. Lastly, there are millions of blacks in good position. Good government positions sef. In fact blacks are even over represented in Caucasian societies. You hear Nigerians winning governorship positions in Canada, Sweden, mayors in the UK etc. How many whites can win elections in a black dominated society? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by VULCAN(m): 9:13am On Oct 14, 2021 |
He clearly asked women to explain HOW they are being marginalised. Because you lack the intellect to respond accordingly, you insult the writer. I don't blame you but the 12 dumb feminists who were unable to counter the OP, wisely didn't comment but quietly liked your comment. Shadow supporters of evil badman007: |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by shaybebaby(f): 9:26am On Oct 14, 2021 |
PrimadonnaO:Err yes. I'd have their asses in court if it were in the UK under the Equality Act of 2010. So now, you find me the Nigerian equivalent of that Law.
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by PrimadonnaO(f): 9:33am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:Are you implying that Nigerian women are legally restricted from vying for offices? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery(op): 9:33am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:Lol...so is now discrimination not marginalisation U see you ladies will just leeching to every word to prove the victim mentality. Discrimination and marginalisation are two different things entirely incase you forgot. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery(op): 9:36am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:Lol...so is now discrimination not marginalisation U see you ladies will be eeching to every word to prove the victim mentality is right. Discrimination and marginalisation are two different things entirely incase you forgot. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by shaybebaby(f): 9:44am On Oct 14, 2021 |
PrimadonnaO:You asked if it is admissible. In my reality, I have shown that coco's example is and that there are laws that protect her. I ask you to find the same law in the Nigerian context. It is your reality, the onus is on you to know not for me to provide it ( if it exists). I know mine because despite the existence of this law, discrimination still exists so knowing my rights in the applicable law is how I combat such tomfoolery. So tell me, what are your legal right and where are the laws that protect such discriminations? Bring facts not opinions. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by PrimadonnaO(f): 9:56am On Oct 14, 2021 |
shaybebaby:Let's not miss the point. Let's get back to where we started. You affirmed that fellow students challenging Coco's candidature for office of President is an admissible case of marginalization. It isn't because those people were students like her. The Constitution most definitely doesn't support that. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. I'd go on and share the bits of the law that buttress that, but I don't seem to have the strength for that at the moment. Coco knows quite well that she could have escalated to the right authorities. So the matter of whether or not she was within her rights is really beside the point. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Kayyy: 10:07am On Oct 14, 2021 |
reddingtonblack:The funny thing was the statistics of the Hilary/trump polls showed that trump won more middle aged white women than Clinton on a scale of 65% to 35%, so if your own gender doesn't trust you enough and gave more votes to a man that was even famed for the grabbing by the pussy statement he made then and he still had those figures, so who is marginalising who ? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by shaybebaby(f): 10:11am On Oct 14, 2021 |
Godoverevery:Marginalisation is one of the children of discrimination. Where you have discrimination, the end result is marginalisation. |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by shaybebaby(f): 10:21am On Oct 14, 2021 |
PrimadonnaO:What constitution? Also show me examples of where such constitution has been upheld. Case law perhaps. Because making laws is one thing, enforcing those laws are another. Well whenever you can, share. I'm patient because so far, you have made assertions, stating they are "fact" that you have failed to back up with anything documented. Facts can be demonstrated in objective reality. Evidence of your claims will demonstrate this. In its absence, it is just an opinion. You are a Nigerian, living in Nigeria, what are the laws that mitigate these and how are they enforced? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Hassanmaye(m): 10:26am On Oct 14, 2021 |
Godoverevery:Thank you sir you have said it all, especially job |
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