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richmond500:
Leave them joh, them think say to be a man na bobo

Even Bobrisky no fit handle the pressure, he had to run.

The other day, a man poured a lady water from his convoy and gave her 500k as compensation, u know how many water dem don pour me? 5 naira I never see, the last person weh pour me water even nearly beat me cos I told him "thunder fire ur landlord"

Hahahhahahaha

Decryptor:
Don't mind them.

They will be crying marginalisation and shouting for gender equality but when it comes to rugged dangerous and blood curdling professions like combat soldiering, off-shore heavy duty rig work, electrical wirings (connection and disconnection like PHCN jobs which involves climbing poles and touching transformers with high voltage), they will remember they are women and dodge.

They sheepishly cluttered themselves into competition with men by trying to compete in sporting events like soccer, basketball, tennis etc but what stops them from participating in dangerous sports like F1, NASCAR and MotoGP? You can't see them there because it is only men that deserve to "crash and burn"

You see them driving flashy cars in the metropolis but how many women can drive a luxurious bus from Lagos to Abuja as a transporter? Ordinary Uber sef, they have left that one to men because "it will be demeaning" for them to drive while a man hails them, sits at the back and they take him to his destination.

If there is any gender that is being
marginalized, it is the male gender.

Hahahhahahaha absolute truth my bro thanks to heaven men are waking up, nairaland good job

Dalil8:
They can only deceive gullible folks, not people like me.

Hahahhahahaha

[quote author=atheistandproud post=106705949]OP

I am not religious. But may whatever you worship bless you.

I am seeing that women are clearly refusing to address any of the points he has made so far.

Well it's not as if they have any shame.

The only place I have seen actual female marginalization na northern Nigeria but those ladies dey milk am to their advantage.[/quote
What do you mean they milk am men or female

Kayyy:
The funny thing was the statistics of the Hilary/trump polls showed that trump won more middle aged white women than Clinton on a scale of 65% to 35%, so if your own gender doesn't trust you enough and gave more votes to a man that was even famed for the grabbing by the pussy statement he made then and he still had those figures, so who is marginalising who ?

whats more funny is that, women in there small mind know they don't support one another enough, buh they rather shift the blame on men.
Still on support, in music entertainment world you see likes of olamide, zlatan, naira marley,davido, even skales supporting n promoting both male & female artist in the industry. what are the likes of tiwa savage, yemi alade, sheyi shay & co doing asides shaking turgid yansh & oppressing one another. why can these women focus on promoting & supporting young female artists.
They say men are subjugating women, buh are women lifting themselves. can a gurl with ride possibly give an unknown gurl a lift on the highway

[quote author=Hassanmaye post=106725661][/quote]The women sometimes take advantage of it to misbehave.

shaybebaby:
What constitution? Also show me examples of where such constitution has been upheld.


Case law perhaps. Because making laws is one thing, enforcing those laws are another.

Well whenever you can, share. I'm patient because so far, you have made assertions, stating they are "fact" that you have failed to back up with anything documented. Facts can be demonstrated in objective reality. Evidence of your claims will demonstrate this. In its absence, it is just an opinion.

You are a Nigerian, living in Nigeria, what are the laws that mitigate these and how are they enforced?

Habba, is this the length we want to drag this to?

I want to believe you are educated and you have brains to reason, I mean what's the point of your education if you actually made this statement.

You can't certainly believe that Nigeria has a Law that stops women from contesting for positions. Women have been contesting for public positions in Nigeria and they get it and you are definitely not ignorant of this. UK Laws are easily documented online which makes it easier to bring them as proof at a click on a button on your phone, while Nigerian Laws take a lot of time to find online to bring as proof. Not that it doesn't exist or It's not a fact.

Water is wet, why the hell does anyone have to proof that point to you.

Sigh, this your statement really pissed me off this morning!

Godoverevery:
See what you are saying and asking is for men to hand over power to women......we can't all be leaders is common sense.

Ofcos is Google....we have lot of woman pushing that agenda of marginalisation making it looks like is the men fault.

No two people can be truly equal....

If a woman wants to feel equal to her man and want equal say....she should woo him,provide shelter,cloth him,pay groom price and finance the wedding...then she has earn the right.

Very simple something.

You have seen the dictionary definition of marginalization. You have to first accept that they are MARGINALIZED before you start raising these other points!

Walkee:
lol
1. It is absurd to compare race and gender.
2. Google are at the very forefront of promoting this gender narrative that's like asking Adamu Garba if sharia is good or bad.

Lastly, there are millions of blacks in good position. Good government positions sef. In fact blacks are even over represented in Caucasian societies. You hear Nigerians winning governorship positions in Canada, Sweden, mayors in the UK etc. How many whites can win elections in a black dominated society?

Here is dictionary definition of marginalization. You have to first accept that women are marginalized in Nigeria and Nigerian trubes before you start raising any other points.
Of course a white person can easily win election in Nigeria

Hello everyone....

This is the truth....let's take out technology and go back to the old ways ....men are dominant (this is nature it's self)

In a jungle there is always a king...we are not dominant because we chose to,we are because our bodies are built for it.

Women in essence is the opposite of what we are.
The society was made by man because women alone would be extint by bigger predators ...the marginalization syndrom does not exist with mother and child...this example is the reason women are limited .the average woman is a child and has to be taught by the dominant gender the mother(male).we created technologies that helped women gain confidence in nature.women can now hunt with guns and kill smaller meat for food..women can now eat without needing the male to severe the disgusting parts of the kills.
This is the reality ..the moment we understand that shouting marginalization will bring more pictures about how women are the lower being .the fasters we lose our achievements

The Scandinavian example is what the sexist have achieved...the system of equality failed because egality was absent...they can never be two husbands.
Another truth is that marriage is not an equality task .the dominant and stronger gender must own it..not the brightes and brilliant

FreeIgboho:
In Nigeria, right from birth and even before birth women are marginalized by traditions, customs, culture, and societal conditioning and expectations. They are systemically excluded from certain jobs and career paths, baring a unique set of circumstances - almost same way men are excluded from nursing, for example, but more powerful

where are you data support your assertions. I mean dont use 1980 hinter land tradition to speak for the larger more enlightened community

truthsayer009:
Habba, is this the length we want to drag this to?

I want to believe you are educated and you have brains to reason, I mean what's the point of your education if you actually made this statement.

You can't certainly believe that Nigeria has a Law that stops women from contesting for positions. Women have been contesting for public positions in Nigeria and they get it and you are definitely not ignorant of this. UK Laws are easily documented online which makes it easier to bring them as proof at a click on a button on your phone, while Nigerian Laws take a lot of time to find online to bring as proof. Not that it doesn't exist or It's not a fact.

Water is wet, why the hell does anyone have to proof that point to you.

Sigh, this your statement really pissed me off this morning!

Like I said, I'm patient. But until then, within this sphere, it remains just that.

In the meantime, read this and weep!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nigerian-senate-votes-down-gender-equality-bill-due-religious-beliefs-a6936021.html

It's just logic

Well my dear, life is full of competition
Culture and rights are two different thing.
The igbo culture for example give out lands to the male child because of continuity of linage.
Assume there was war to take over land .who will protect you from the people who are built to be a predator.(must be a predator it's self)
All things being equal .culture is not same with right dear.

shaybebaby:
Like I said, I'm patient. But until then, within this sphere, it remains just that.

In the meantime, read this and weep!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nigerian-senate-votes-down-gender-equality-bill-due-religious-beliefs-a6936021.html

Logic200:
Well my dear, life is full of competition
Culture and rights are two different thing.
The igbo culture for example give out lands to the male child because of continuity of linage.
Assume there was war to take over land .who will protect you from the people who are built to be a predator.(must be a predator it's self)
All things being equal .culture is not same with right dear.

Righttoreject so it’s not only my greedy family that does it huh?

Some of you will lie through your noses just to think you’ve won an argument. Looking ridiculous while doing it

You’re making too much sense

We can’t have that

shaybebaby:
But it isn't war is it?

The entire point is that there are additional barriers that are based on gender in order to access opportunities.

Let's leave conjecture aside and stick to the facts. She was told she couldn't throw her hat in the ring because they didn't want her gender.

That was the starting point. Meanwhile the other men didn't have to face that particular obstacle just to contest. No doubt there will be obstacles during the actual race. But in her case, to contest, she had to face one more, than the rest of her male competitors.

That extra one, is the marginalisation.

We men have our flaws...and we can easily belittle little things that are part of existence.this it's self it's power.
Women in the other way have same but in different ways..it's called the power to manipulate.these two things must coexist for an entity...
Reality should not be misquoted with illusion ,leave the mind and see the world.
Women don't have the strength to fight muscle strength...that's why is in their nature to avoid heavy lifting jobs that can wear and tear the tissue.
Men also avoid jobs that has to do with emotions and consience.(marketing nursing sales rep)you can name it.that's why the society it's the way it is.

Cousin9999:
There's many explanations for that. Here's a few:

1. Parents think that despite sexism, males are dūmb and easily manipulated and would rather invest in the girl.

2. Society is so sexist that many girls feel it's education or pure suffering, so they work harder than any man.

3. Parents know a male can fail upwards because of sexism, but women don't have that luxury.

this is soooo flawed..haba

Well the world is full of lies,
We only anticipate what we know,it's your conscious mind that can articulate the fact that can become true to you.understanding is shared knowledge my dear

cococandy:
Righttoreject so it’s not only my greedy family that does it huh?

Some of you will lie through your noses just to think you’ve won an argument. Looking ridiculous while doing it

shaybebaby:
Like I said, I'm patient. But until then, within this sphere, it remains just that.

In the meantime, read this and weep!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nigerian-senate-votes-down-gender-equality-bill-due-religious-beliefs-a6936021.html

Why are you ignoring the question, have women being contesting for public positions and getting it? Yes or No.

Is it an opinion or a fact as your brain stated earlier that there is no Law stopping women to contest? Yes or No.

I don't have time abeg.

cococandy:
You’re making too much sense

We can’t have that

I was content with liking all your comments but the enemy within who dismissed your experience/ gaslighting, got me wading into the discussion.

FreeIgboho:
Here is dictionary definition of marginalization. You have to first accept that women are marginalized in Nigeria and Nigerian trubes before you start raising any other points.
Of course a white person can easily win election in Nigeria

1. Women aren't marginalised in Nigeria. Not even in the north.
2. A whiteman can never win an election in Nigeria, not even in his wildest dreams. A half caste sef can never win house of assembly seat in Nigeria. His opponent will simply go to the village and ask his people if they are going to elect a foreigner over their own son. A white man can't repeat such statements in a Caucasian society, he will called a racist and crucified.

FreeIgboho:
You know this is also what whites do about blacks. They'll tell you discrimination ended long ago and enumerate how blacks are even the ones favored. Yet you look at all the juicy positions and you hardly see any blacks. I asked Google for you. Below is what it says.
Godoverevery u wanted Google. Here's more Google for you

U call that data to back up your claims..
Dude...I don't mean to sound rude..but u don't know what data/evidence means...

Right my friend.
When someone is black he is black,let's be blunt for a while.history made us understand that the blacks are not Americans from generational origin.
Same goes to woman.a woman is a woman and a man is a man that's all to it..if a woman feels cheated because she is a woman then she distastes her gender.there are certain things women can't do alone not because men programed it,but because she is built in that nature ,also they need help but shouting feminism will only cause more harm than good.well maybe because they don't know how best to do it than manipulate the world to it

Walkee:
1. Women aren't marginalised in Nigeria. Not even in the north.
2. A whiteman can never win an election in Nigeria, not even in his wildest dreams. A half caste sef can never win house of assembly seat in Nigeria. His opponent will simply go to the village and ask his people if they are going to elect a foreigner over their own son. A white man can't repeat such statements in a Caucasian society, he will called a racist and crucified.

shaybebaby:
I was content with liking all your comments but the enemy within who dismissed your experience/ gaslighting, got me wading into the discussion.

This reeks of pure hate from you, what does enemy within mean? She has a different opinion about marginalization in Nigeria & all of a sudden, she has become an enemy. So anyone that doesn't accept your POV is an enemy.

So if crackhaus or raalsalghul disagrees with me on one topic , It automatically means they are now my enemies. Jeez!

Thank God say man no be God o.

Logic200:
Well the world is full of lies,
We only anticipate what we know,it's your conscious mind that can articulate the fact that can become true to you.understanding is shared knowledge my dear

Okay

shaybebaby:
I was content with liking all your comments but the enemy within who dismissed your experience/ gaslighting, got me wading into the discussion.

You see the boys asking if women will even vote for themselves and these ones come on along to prove them right. I hope there’s a reward in it for them.

Of course many of them won’t vote for other women and yes it’s social conditioning.

And for those asking, is patriarchy entirely men’s fault? No. Because it can’t be sustained without the support of women.
So it’s a social issue for which men and women are at fault and the beneficiaries are men. Finished

Walkee:
this north narrative sef is rubbish. The female children that are forced to marry at 12 have brothers that are left on the streets at age 9, the females are forced to marry, the males are ignored to either follow a trailer down south to scavenge metal, beg or worse still, left at the mercy of Boko Haram and bandits recruiters.
These only in the poorest of poor families. Well to do homes in the North don't marry off their children or leave them at the mercy of BH.
I was told by my friends in kano that girls are paid to go to school in Jigawa. The boys are given scholarship too but those of the girls is 4x higher than the ones given to their male counterparts.

My Fulani friend has a girl who is betrothed to him, she finished secondary school and refused to write jamb, she declared she wants to get married. My friend begged her to carry jamb she refused, he gave her money to buy form she used it to buy clothes and hair. He has decided to do the wedding in a couple of months. You will now see someone like that now and still type that Northern girls are denied education.
Any family where a Northern girl is forced to marry at 12, her brother is in the South picking condemn iron or helping BH to clean Ak-47

this is sooooo on point!

cococandy:
Righttoreject so it’s not only my greedy family that does it huh?

Some of you will lie through your noses just to think you’ve won an argument. Looking ridiculous while doing it

I always hate the idea of coming hard on you because of your good side. Well, if you want to go and invite all your family members here/use your different monikers to support your erroneous claims to feel fly, that is up to you. The fact remains that as a bona fide Igbo son, in my family and Igboland in general, we do give all types of land/property to both males and females - in regards to ancestral land, the females here are those who choose not to marry for one good reason or another. No sane family in Igboland takes a contentious and contemptuous woman seriously and that is why they're usually ostracized or mostly married off to quasi-men within and outside Igboland.

On the other hand, it's only a contentious and contemptuous married woman who gets a share of an ancestral land through her husband's family that will insist on also getting ancestral land from her father's ancestral land too - talk about greed pro-max.

The funny thing is that your type can't be caught being against injustice because you hate it but because you're not the one meting it out against others. In summary, say no to bigotry, contentiousness, and contemptuousness.

truthsayer009:
This reeks of pure hate from you, what does enemy within mean? She has a different opinion about marginalization in Nigeria & all of a sudden, she has become an enemy. So anyone that doesn't accept your POV is an enemy.

So if crackhaus or raalsalghul disagrees with me on one topic , It automatically means they are now my enemies. Jeez!

Thank God say man no be God o.

It is what it is. Her case is the case of a turkey voting for Christmas.

She is entitled to her opinion as are you, but when she dismisses the reality of data backed by data, thereby helping to uphold the same unequal system, she is just as responsible.

Whilst you are it, why aren't you able to provide anything that backs your stance and hers asides from your vituperations.

Newspaper article sef, you cannot share.

cococandy:
You see the boys asking if women will even vote for themselves and these ones come on along to prove them right. I hope there’s a reward in it for them.

Of course many of them won’t vote for other women and yes it’s social conditioning.

And for those asking, is patriarchy entirely men’s fault? No. Because it can’t be sustained without the support of women.
So it’s a social issue for which men and women are at fault and the beneficiaries are men. Finished

EOD.