₦airaland Forum

RightToReject:
I always hate the idea of coming hard on you because of your good side. Well, if you want to go and invite all your family members here/use your different monikers to support your erroneous claims to feel fly, that is up to you. The fact remains that as a bona fide Igbo son, in my family and Igboland in general, we do give all types of land/property to both males and females - in regards to ancestral land, the females here are those who choose not to marry for one good reason or another. No sane family in Igboland takes a contentious and contemptuous woman seriously and that is why they're usually ostracized or mostly married off to quasi-men within and outside Igboland.

On the other hand, it's only a contentious and contemptuous married woman who gets a share of an ancestral land through her husband's family that will insist on also getting ancestral land from her father's ancestral land too - talk about greed pro-max.

The funny thing is that your type can't be caught being against injustice because you hate it but because you're not the one meting it out against others. In summary, say no to bigotry, contentiousness, and contemptuousness.

VeteranLiar:
I always hate the idea of coming hard on you because of your good side. Well, if you want to go and invite all your family members here/use your different monikers to support your erroneous claims to feel fly, that is up to you. The fact remains that as a bona fide Igbo son, in my family and Igboland in general, we do give all types of land/property to both males and females -

RightToReject:
I always hate the idea of coming hard on you because of your good side. Well, if you want to go and invite all your family members here/use your different monikers to support your erroneous claims to feel fly, that is up to you. The fact remains that as a bona fide Igbo son, in my family and Igboland in general, we do give all types of land/property to both males and females - in regards to ancestral land, the females here are those who choose not to marry for one good reason or another. No sane family in Igboland takes a contentious and contemptuous woman seriously and that is why they're usually ostracized or mostly married off to quasi-men within and outside Igboland.

On the other hand, it's only a contentious and contemptuous married woman who gets a share of an ancestral land through her husband's family that will insist on also getting ancestral land from her father's ancestral land too - talk about greed pro-max.

The funny thing is that your type can't be caught being against injustice because you hate it but because you're not the one meting it out against others. In summary, say no to bigotry, contentiousness, and contemptuousness.

njelrapheal:
where are you data support your assertions. I mean dont use 1980 hinter land tradition to speak for the larger more enlightened community

advanceDNA:
U call that data to back up your claims..
Dude...I don't mean to sound rude..but u don't know what data/evidence means...

Walkee:
1. Women aren't marginalised in Nigeria. Not even in the north.
2. A whiteman can never win an election in Nigeria, not even in his wildest dreams. A half caste sef can never win house of assembly seat in Nigeria. His opponent will simply go to the village and ask his people if they are going to elect a foreigner over their own son. A white man can't repeat such statements in a Caucasian society, he will called a racist and crucified.

cococandy:
Hmm.

Okay.

So are women entitled to ancestral land or not?

FreeIgboho:
You people should stop arguing NONSENSE. Look at all the public institutions in Nigeria, how many are headed by women? Look at all the high-end private and business institutions, how many are headed by women. Even places like Alaba market (below) where trillions are made everyday, how many women are involved in them? Is it because these things are too hard fir women to do ? NOO!! It is tradition, culture, society conditioning and expectations, the very structure if society - those are what exclude them. Even within the tribes the are all sorts of taboos and rules that favor men.. The result of all this is MARGINALIZATION!
YOU PEOPLE SHOULD STOP ARGUING NONSENSE!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6RN3qVX8jQ

RightToReject:
I stated clearly there that yes, our women who choose not to marry for one good reason or another do get ancestral land in Igbo families where principle reigns supreme over expediency - the good thing is that such families are in the majority.

While on the other hand, it's only a contentious and contemptuous married woman who gets a share of an ancestral land through her husband's family that will insist on also getting ancestral land from her father's ancestral land too - talk about greed pro-max.

pocohantas:
This one can call white black, just to prove mumu point. Next thing na to login to his UandN moniker. Dopemoo…

Logic200:
Sir.
This is not the point here.no one is arguing the fact that women take higher positions.the debate here is that we force women to abandon those position that are of choice to them.

My opinion is that women are not made for some certain things so pushing them to strive for it is to hamper the world we built.we made the law that women should compete in all position .this mean women are not actually going into them.and they complain we don't allow them...so we say "any woman that has been refused by a man against her will or group should come to the court and contest.but as usual they don't want to contest ,they want men to create the avenue for free with out competition.
This is the stance

BigBellyBurst:
I think the solution to Gender war is for men and women to live on two different planets.

Im beginning to get sick of it.

cococandy:
He will say you’re my relation coming to support me with your alternate moniker.
I’ve never heard this type of bold faced lying before

PrimadonnaO:
To allude women's decision to not aspire to certain positions and heights to societal conditioning is just too intangible.

How can that be measured?


How have you reached that conclusion?

So if a woman says "I'm not running for the office of the President because society doesn't expect me to" do you think she still has any right to scream marginalisation?

No, she doesn't. Because her limitation is in her head, and there is nothing in the real sense stopping her from breaking free of it.

JayCynic:
Bullshit
There's nothing that excludes men from nursing, all you have to do to be a nurse is apply for an SON exams, get good grades, pass the interview, study for three years and come out with good grades and viola you're an RN.

Most men just don't want to be nurses because they just don't want to be nurses. Period

FreeIgboho:
And that's why they are crying marginalization yet you are saying they are not marginalised, when the results clearly shows THEY ARE! The females are not be blamed. The paternalistic society is to be blamed and needs to be reformed and that is what they are fighting for. Nobody is asking you to hand over anything

oshaosha2014:
Exactly what is happening to most men in the developed countries. Many of them now reason like girls. They have been totally feminized and emasculated. That is where the female African counterpart is trying to drive everybody to, through emotional manipulation. Despite all the powers given to females over males in the western world they still have radical feminism there. Men are always the problem even though all their rights have been stripped off them. It is worse when the men their getting married. It is like they are signing off their lives to some emotional unstable being with the power to manipulate even their government to do their biddings. Men are in trouble but they don't know.

PrimadonnaO:
Lack of personal responsibility for one's own life.

Simple and short.

FreeIgboho:
You people should stop arguing NONSENSE. Look at all the public institutions in Nigeria, how many are headed by women? Look at all the high-end private and business institutions, how many are headed by women. Even places like Alaba market (below) where trillions are made everyday, how many women are involved in them? Is it because these things are too hard fir women to do ? NOO!! It is tradition, culture, societal conditioning and expectations, the very structure of society - those are what exclude them. Even within the tribes there are all sorts of taboos and rules that favor men.. The result of all this is MARGINALIZATION!
YOU PEOPLE SHOULD STOP ARGUING NONSENSE!!!

bukatyne:


Well-done PrimadonnaO on this thread.

We have ensured everyone has equal opportunities; now we are policing for equal outcomes.

We will still get to 'why do only women get pregnant when men & women have sex'?

A woman got the presidential ticket some years back yet only four people voted for her.

I am 100% sure that more than 4 feminists in Nigeria were eligible to vote and had PVCs.

They did not vote for her yet come to wail that women are marginalized.

cococandy:
You see the boys asking if women will even vote for themselves and these ones come on along to prove them right. I hope there’s a reward in it for them.

Of course many of them won’t vote for other women and yes it’s social conditioning.

And for those asking, is patriarchy entirely men’s fault? No. Because it can’t be sustained without the support of women.
So it’s a social issue for which men and women are at fault and the beneficiaries are men. Finished

advanceDNA:
I am not talking about Nigeria alone.. and u are the one lying cos u don't have statistics to back your erronous claim that there are equal men and women in nursing..

There are more female nurses than male everywhere in the world..united state has the highest..and it just grew to a mere 12% recently, according to the bereau of labour statistics....just as there are more male in engineering than women...
u think women don't study engineering...they eventually leave and end up doing other things...

The equality of opportunity is fine...that's acheivable... But U can't force out individual or group outcome...that's a fact ....

If u like seff...prevent men from contesting for the next election... The love women have for family will prevent many of them from remaining in politics for long...how many women have risk apetite like tinubu, like ffk, like fayose, oshiomole...

Women will tell u men marginalize them ..but the good heart and caring soul they are wired with more than men is mostly why they won't leave family and chase career full speed..

Give a man a 1.5million naira manager job in maidugurii and he will not think twice before leaving his family... Give a woman the same job and she will remember her kids first cos she won't even want to leave her kids with anyone ...not even her husband..

bukatyne:
I don't understand how the bold is not common sense.

I don't want to be the president of Nigeria (at least as at today).

I don't just want to be?

Or women don't have free will and all their actions must stem from marginalization

Owen247:
Now is that not male marginalisation?

Acidosis:
Men and Women

bukatyne:
Where was I when this thread was going down?

It would be strange to mention the problems of the girl-child in the North with mentioning the problems of the boy-child.

The North has a very peculiar set of problems that 'empowerment' of the girl-child is not the solution.

truthsayer009:
This reeks of pure hate from you, what does enemy within mean? She has a different opinion about marginalization in Nigeria & all of a sudden, she has become an enemy. So anyone that doesn't accept your POV is an enemy.

So if crac.khaus or raalsa.lghul disagrees with me on one topic , It automatically means they are now my enemies. Jeez!

Thank God say man no be God o.

FreeIgboho:
You people should stop arguing NONSENSE. Look at all the public institutions in Nigeria, how many are headed by women? Look at all the high-end private and business institutions, how many are headed by women. Even places like Alaba market (below) where trillions are made everyday, how many women are involved in them? Is it because these things are too hard fir women to do ? NOO!! It is tradition, culture, societal conditioning and expectations, the very structure of society - those are what exclude them. Even within the tribes there are all sorts of taboos and rules that favor men.. The result of all this is MARGINALIZATION!
YOU PEOPLE SHOULD STOP ARGUING NONSENSE!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6RN3qVX8jQ

cococandy:
If anything patriarchy hurts men too even though they benefit in some ways from it.

But there’s no real benefit for women

PrimadonnaO:
Okay, first of all, I'm not fixated on anything.

Interestingly, I really want to know what the issues around women marginalisation are today, because when I look around, I don't see them.

And yes, personal experiences lend credibility because it gives context to the matter.

So back to your experience.

It's a good thing you knew that the there was no law enshrined that prevented a female from vying for the office of president.

And yes, it is true that some things won't be easy. If you very much wanted the office, you could have pressed on.

In your case, the roadblock was that the "cabal" wanted only male for that position.

But their preference may have also varied across other lines. Another male would have had challenges if perhaps he wasn't loyal to the cabal...
If he wasn't from a tribe they preferred...
If he wasn't from a department they wanted...
If his ideologies didn't favour the cabal...

So many roadblocks people experience at different phases of life.
What matters most is that it is contestable and you could have pressed on regardless...

This would have been a stronger case if you had taken it to the authorities and they re-echoed that the position wasn't open to ladies.

bukatyne:
I have seen your posts all over this thread:

@bold:
What do you propose in practical terms?

Walkee:
lol this one is just capping rubbish.
When I gained admission into AAU, the VC was a woman, Dean of my faculty was a woman, librarian was a woman, my hod was a woman. So shut the fucck up biitch and stop crying.

With this been said, there's zero chance of women being as successful as men. The reason you have more men in high position is the same reason more men are rotting in prison, more men have died this morning falling from electric poles, getting crushed by a heavy object they're working with, drugs getting burst into their blood etc. A man has zero choice other than succeed. While a woman can demand a man take care of her.
When I was 17 I was already working with old men constructing roads while my sisters bathe and paint their nails. While their boyfriends pay their bills.
If you want political positions be ready to do all the dirty things both legal and illegal no man is going to relinquish his position for you.

solidmyk:
These movements feminist, Blm and Lgbt all uses these same tactics blackmailing to get on people's emotional side and what's so funny about them is the high level of corruption that strives amongst them
They're all frauds