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Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 5:03pm On Oct 18, 2021
BluntTheApostle:

Is God a person?

Did He not make us to look like Himself and resemble Him?

If we are persons is He therefore not A Person?
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by BluntTheApostle(m): 5:06pm On Oct 18, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

What do you understand by the word "PERSON" undecided

A human being.

What else?
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by BluntTheApostle(m): 5:10pm On Oct 18, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Did He not make us to look like Himself and resemble Him?

If we are persons is He therefore not A Person?

He made us look like Him, but not totally like Him, especially when Adam and Eve disobeyed Him.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 5:14pm On Oct 18, 2021
BluntTheApostle:

He made us look like Him, but not totally like Him, especially when Adam and Eve disobeyed Him.

The Question is Personality. And it is proven that we are just like Him and He is just like us based on Personality, so no more issue.

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Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:17pm On Oct 18, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


A human being.

What else?

NO! A person is an intelligent living being not necessarily a human being! wink
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by BluntTheApostle(m): 9:49am On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


NO! A person is an intelligent living being not necessarily a human being! wink

So an unintelligent human being is not a person?

A chimpanzee is a person abi?
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by BluntTheApostle(m): 9:50am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


The Question is Personality. And it is proven that we are just like Him and He is just like us based on Personality, so no more issue.

Interesting.

I am sure you don't know the meaning of personality.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 11:37am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Did He not make us to look like Himself and resemble Him?

If we are persons is He therefore not A Person?

Opke
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 11:46am On Oct 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:


He made us look like Him, but not totally like Him, especially when Adam and Eve disobeyed Him.


Adam means man and Eve means woman. They are not proper names.
Man is made up of God's spirit +dust of the earth. So the "US" referred to in Genesis 1:26 is God and the earth.
Humans are Gods spirit dwelling within a physical body made from the DUST of the earth.when God takes his spirit humans experiences "death".

Humans where endowed with freedom of choice. Because we come fitted with a brain. Just that some people have suspended 5he use of their own to believe absurdities. Spirit don't have that luxury.they are immaterial beings.

God created everything in pairs. Up and down, light and darkness, good and evil. These are what we are expected to choose from. But spirit only does what God has created them to do.

Angels, demons, devil referes to laws and principles within the universe. 5hey are part of God. Just as humans are....

People actually perish for lack of knowledge..

FYI I worship only the creator Just the way he commanded us. Directly. "Do not have any other God before me"..
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 11:51am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Did He not make us to look like Himself and resemble Him?

If we are persons is He therefore not A Person?

God is not a person. Numbers 23:19. Worshipping anything that has form is tantamount to idolatry. God is the universe itself. It is the universal consciousness personified.
We are part of God and God is part of us...

Learn, unlearn and relearn..
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 11:55am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


The Question is Personality. And it is proven that we are just like Him and He is just like us based on Personality, so no more issue.

We are God. We are one seeing ourselves divided, we are 2, 4 ,8........We are all suffering from the illusion of separation.

We are all God's spirit dwelling within a physical body fashioned from the DUST of the earth.. same spirit different bodies having different experiences...
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On Oct 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:

So an unintelligent human being is not a person?
A chimpanzee is a person abi?
Humans are intelligent beings but you can give your daughter's or sister's hand in marriage so a chimpanzee! wink
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 12:24pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:


We are God. ...

You know when you say this, we all consider you as that dirty madman with bushy dada hair and empty tins of milk on his neck, walking around shirtless and almost nude.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:30pm On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

You know when you say this, we all consider you as that dirty madman with bushy dada hair and empty tins of milk on his neck, walking around shirtless and almost nude.


Please ask him of the judgment of those who refuse to worship his God? cheesy
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 12:34pm On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Please ask him of the judgment of those who refuse to worship his God? cheesy

Nothing is stopping you from directly asking him!
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:45pm On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

Nothing is stopping you from directly asking him!
OK i'm sorry if that offends you! undecided
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 2:19pm On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

OK i'm sorry if that offends you! undecided

No offence given! I just do not want to tangle with a madman.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 2:36pm On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


You know when you say this, we all consider you as that dirty madman with bushy dada hair and empty tins of milk on his neck, walking around shirtless and almost nude.

Doesn't change the fact that we are Gods image and likeness...does it?

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Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(m): 2:37pm On Oct 19, 2021
hupernikao:


My wonderful brother.
I trust you have been doing great.


On the topic.
Everything you wrote here are not found on the pages of the Bible. They are solely your very own interpretation.

When you read the Bible properly and the very texts you intend to explain, you will see that all that is listed as mistakes were only your very own insinuation and not biblical facts.

For example,
Your understanding of the events in Eden missed the whole essence and Moses would have put you in a remedial class for failing this.


Truly, I would have loved to pick your list one by one but, it will be a big sacrifice of time to give the details of all you wrote.

In simplicity, your write up is asking for explanation of the whole Bible, 66 books, 783,137 words (KJV) to be discussed on a NL thread.
It would be preferable to pull an elephant through the needle's eye, than to do such explanation here.


Brotherly. I trust you're doing great.
I assure you everything I said here were extracted from the pages of the bible.
How it is my interpretation remains subject of debate.

1. Did God not place the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the same garden as the tree of life?

I assume your claim is also that the events of the garden of eden were simply figurative right?
Its that not also simply your own interpretation?

2. I simply highlighted 7 points on the subject of the thread not the whole bible sir.

I'm actually curious to hear your "unbiased and unsentimental" counterpoints.
Since your normal inclination as a Christian is to defend God and his actions as a Muslim is inclined to defend Allah and Mohammed.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 2:41pm On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:



Please ask him of the judgment of those who refuse to worship his God? cheesy

Man has already been judged.

"From dust you were made, and to dust you shall return".

Judgment is for the living..never for the dead.
At death, our bodies return to dust and becomes one with it. While our spirit or life force returns to God who owns it and becomes one with it....

Am I clear?

I have explained it like you area 10 year old.

If you can't understand it..then you are just a lower primate..
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(m): 2:41pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:


God is not a person. Numbers 23:19. Worshipping anything that has form is tantamount to idolatry. God is the universe itself. It is the universal consciousness personified.
We are part of God and God is part of us...

Learn, unlearn and relearn..

If God is a being, then he is a person.
Why are we arguing this?

Even the trinititarian doctrine is that God is 3 persons in 1.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 2:42pm On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:



Please ask him of the judgment of those who refuse to worship his God? cheesy

Man has already been judged.

"From dust you were made, and to dust you shall return".

Judgment is for the living..never for the dead.
At death, our bodies return to dust and becomes one with it. While our spirit or life force returns to God who owns it and becomes one with it....

Am I clear?

I have explained it like you are a 10 year old.

If you can't understand it..then you are just a lower primate..
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(m): 2:43pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:


We are God. We are one seeing ourselves divided, we are 2, 4 ,8........We are all suffering from the illusion of separation.

We are all God's spirit dwelling within a physical body fashioned from the DUST of the earth.. same spirit different bodies having different experiences...


This revelation is all that matters.
Even more important is when it is spiritually revealed and properly conceptualized in the mind and manifest in the soul.
That is the state of Enlightenment.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 2:47pm On Oct 19, 2021
Myer:


If God is a being, then he is a person.
Why are we arguing this?

Even the trinititarian doctrine is that God is 3 persons in 1.

God is the universe personified...not a being.

Trinity is an insult against the lugal dimmer ankia.
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(m): 2:50pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:


God is the universe personified...not a being.

Trinity is an insult against the lugal dimmer ankia.

Personified... Meaning a person.

You feel it's an insult to refer to God as a person?
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 2:55pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:

Doesn't change the fact that we are Gods image and likeness...does it?

So is a mannequin also in our image and likeness and I do not think that the peers of the mannequin will call it "man"
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 2:57pm On Oct 19, 2021
Myer:


Personified... Meaning a person.

You feel it's an insult to refer to God as a person?

Yes it is...personified means to give it human attributes...
Man has learnt to tell stories around camp fires. It does not mean the stories are real or actual. They are meant to convey a message. We are expected to learn the message they contain. The letter killeth..

Like I said , God is the universe itself, and we are part of it. Those stories where told and written to educate us on our relationship with the universe and with ourselves and our surroundings...the basic purpose is to live in peace...
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(m): 3:01pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:


Yes it is...personified means to give it human attributes...
Man has learnt to tell stories around camp fires. It does not mean the stories are real or actual. They are meant to convey a message. We are expected to learn the message they contain. The letter killeth..

Like I said , God is the universe itself, and we are part of it. Those stories where told and written to educate us on our relationship with the universe and with ourselves and our surroundings...the basic purpose is to live in peace...

Now while I agree with some of points about the stories helping to educate man about the relation with God, I must disagree that not all religions refer to God as the universe.
In fact a Christian would find it insulting if you refer to God as the universe.

To you, God might be the universe.
But if I may ask, if God is the universe what does that make the devil?
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by sonmvayina(m): 3:14pm On Oct 19, 2021
Myer:


Now while I agree with some of points about the stories helping to educate man about the relation with God, I must disagree that not all religions refer to God as the universe.
In fact a Christian would find it insulting if you refer to God as the universe.

To you, God might be the universe.
But if I may ask, if God is the universe what does that make the devil?

The devil is a Christian invention. It does not exist in ibo traditional religion or yoruba or Judaism.

Demons, angels are natural laws and principles..
The yorubas calls them orishas...
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:

Man has already been judged.
"From dust you were made, and to dust you shall return".
Judgment is for the living..never for the dead.
At death, our bodies return to dust and becomes one with it. While our spirit or life force returns to God who owns it and becomes one with it....
Am I clear?
I have explained it like you are a 10 year old.
If you can't understand it..then you are just a lower primate..

So if man has been judged and there is no solution, what is the purpose of your running up and down on Nairaland?
You're going to die and there's nothing afterwards just like everyone else, so what are you doing here everyday? cheesy
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

No offence given! I just do not want to tangle with a madman.
He doesn't know how confused he is for real!

The last time he said to me "you will PERISH" i tried to see how far his brain can decipher what he just said because according to him all humans are going through a circle of reincarnation until some reach Nirvana after uncountable times of reincarnation.
So i wanted to figure out how the word "PERISH" correlates with reincarnation!
As far as i know only Jesus of Nazareth used that word and sonmvayina said Jesus never existed! cheesy
Re: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 3:35pm On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

He doesn't know how confused he is for real!

The last time he said to me "you will PERISH" i tried to see how far his brain can decipher what he just said because according to him all humans are going through a circle of reincarnation until some reach Nirvana after uncountable times of reincarnation.
So i wanted to figure out how the word "PERISH" correlates with reincarnation!
As far as i know only Jesus of Nazareth used that word and sonmvayina said Jesus never existed! cheesy

You surely had his time. For me, immediately he said Christ Jesus was a fabrication of the Romans and man is God, he was kookoo, to me.

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