cheruv:

I'm looking for this particular book... How do I get it?

Is it the book by Koelle? talking about the ijaw guy?
It's called "Polyglotta Africana". It was also super difficult for me to find. If that's what you talking about.

Alabo7978:

Dunce!
Open your eyes and read the second line.
Zoom it.
I will always ask, do y'all suffer from jaundice??
"Bonny is called OKOLOMA by themselves
Bonny is called okoloBA, obani, ibani by the igbos"

Bonny is CHIEFLY PEOPLED by the IBO SLAVES though they speak the OKOLOMA language which is also the language of the new calabar (calabari)

You igbos know Bonny as OKOLOBA, OKOLOBA,
ZOOM THE SECOND LINE AND OPEN YOUR EYES, OR EAT ENOUGH ONIONS.
The OKOLOMA in ndoki was camp or little town where the Bonny(OKOLOMA) people go to purchase slave or other cash crops. Even the OKOLOMA originally belonged to the Bonny people.

Try and open your eyes ofoigbo biko'nu
Zoom the second line.
You called Bonny OKOLOBA, BA BA.

Chineke'ekwela'ihe'ojo.

Let me lecture you a little.

In the past....
IGBOS in the Anioma area, called us NSHI people. But we call ourselves Nri people. Which part of this statement means Nri people are not Igbos?

From what I have read up so far on Ubani, it is clear that there were at least 3 categories of people in that town.
1. The ruling families (Ndoki-Igbos)
2. The slave merchants (Ndokis, Ngwas, Aros)
3. The slaves about to be shipped to the New World (Igbos and possibly Ibibioids)

The 4th category are perhaps Ijoid migrant porters and menial labourers and fishermen.

The clear majority are the slaves to be shipped out, who were mainly Igbos and Ibibioid people.

Now we all know that Okoloma exists in Ndoki territory and not in Ijaw territory.
So it makes sense to clearly state that the true original Bonny people, were Ndoki people, who also referred to Bonny by a name that already exists in Ndoki terrotory, namely OKOLOMA.

At no point was it stated that Bonny people were Ijaws.

Now to drill deeper to know who those true Bonny people were, all you needed to do was to consult earlier documents written by neutral observers.

John Adams ()1824), Captain Crow(1790-1830), Dr. Balfour Baikie (1850) all confirmed that IGBOS were the original inhabitants of Ubani.
Please in the future, use ancient records written by neutral observers to back up some of your fairy tales.

JANK23H:

The Portuguese account were written in Portuguese as expected,and so would not have had comparable circulation as that of the British.However,there have been recent translation and reviews of expedition into Africa by Duarte Pacheco Pereira and VALENTIM FERNANDES.

Attached is a screenshot of Captain Pereira's 15th century account,recognizing the presence of the Ijos or Jos as he called them then.Though some of his remarks were not complimentary,this could be attributed his strained relationship with the Ijos(Jos) as against the cordial trade partnership he had with the Benin kingdom.

This account should put to rest the notion that the Ijos were not original inhabitants of the NigerDelta.

Second shot:A Commentary on Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in his Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis, and on Some Other Early Accounts

First shot:Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis
by Pereira, Duarte Pacheco

Bolded : Hahhahahhahahha.



You see, you are now raising your own standard to meet the standard of the thread which is very good because it will improve you.

That's very good.

Igboid:


I see.
So the original Izons are found in Delta state around Forcardos and Escravos which were basically in old Western region and no way near Eastern Nigeria, let alone having a say in Bonny and Opobo.

Thanks.

Exactly what I've been saying.

JANK23H:


There was no settlement called Opobo during the 15th century.His account did recognize Bonny and Ijos as the inhabitants.Besides his statement was "Beyond this....", and not around as you put it.

Where did he recognize them?

GreatBoss:


Go and do it already and stop the foolishness on Nairaland.
Is Nairaland Bonny nd Opobo?
Go there physical, and say this nonesense and if you are not beaten to death, you will leave there on a stretcher.

lol nigga u must be suffering from internal bleeding from the flogging on this thread.

you have been crying ever since the thread was opened to expose the ijaw lies.

JANK23H:

The Portuguese account were written in Portuguese as expected,and so would not have had comparable circulation as that of the British.However,there have been recent translation and reviews of expedition into Africa by Duarte Pacheco Pereira and VALENTIM FERNANDES.

Attached is a screenshot of Captain Pereira's 15th century account,recognizing the presence of the Ijos or Jos as he called them then.Though some of his remarks were not complimentary,this could be attributed his strained relationship with the Ijos(Jos) as against the cordial trade partnership he had with the Benin kingdom.

This account should put to rest the notion that the Ijos were not original inhabitants of the NigerDelta.

Second shot:A Commentary on Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in his Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis, and on Some Other Early Accounts

First shot:Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis
by Pereira, Duarte Pacheco

Thank you for posting this. From my observations, I wouldn't consider this as an account of Bonny as it is dwelling more on the western Delta and it did not mention the ijo in Bonny. However, the post seems to have buried some claims.

While igbos here say Bonny people are igbos mixed with Brass people while their Kings are igbos according to Captain Crow. Some ijaw counter argument seems to be that ijaws were the ones on Bonny exclusively selling igbo slaves.
When the accounts of English slave traders got submitted, the arguments for Ijaw was that the trading was during the Portuguese era.
From most of the accounts submitted here, one thing seems obvious. The Europeans needed a conducive environment to trade meaning they worked with tribes that were welcoming. However, most of the post about Ijaw so far, including the one you just posted from a Portuguese background been critical of ijaws as pirates and practicing cannibalism.

OfoIgbo:


The attachment you sent clearly shows that Ubani people, who were mainly Ndoki people, also referred to Ubani as Okoloma (which is also the name of a town in Ndoki)

Nowhere in that writeup was it stated that Ijaws owned Ubani.

Okoloma is more of an Ndoki town. Otherwise is there any Ijaw town named Okoloma. Don't tell me OKOLOAMA.

Every time on Opobo groups the Ijaw wannabes and Izon agents always call the town Opuboama which is a terrible aberration. Everything they will attach an ama at the tail to Ijawnize it. One day you will hear Ubaniama.

Izons still doing pirate activities in Bonny Waters in 21st century.
Somethings never change. The more they change, the more they stay the same.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dz2DjqkDmFjo&ved=2ahUKEwix_v76gMX0AhX8kokEHVowCdYQtwJ6BAgdEAI&usg=AOvVaw0GCDZZ7p3UeAaSRJ5EyB6W

real1000:
Daminabo Prince Eugene▶‎IBANI NATION (BON).IBANI HISTORY OF GIG BOATS AND REGATTA"by Senibo Abinye Morgan Ogolo.The Ibani people of Bonny and Opobo of the Ijaw tribe have always been coastal dwellers, even prior to the founding of Okoloama (Bonny) in the 13th or 14th century. In fact the families of these Ijaw migrants and founders of the would bepowerful city states navigated by canoes through the creeks and seas of the Niger Delta up to the Imo River linings in search of a peaceful abode until they arrived Bonny well before the 15th century.The tradition of Gigi and Regatta via war canoe is held by a school of thought to be naturally thought out by the ancestors of the West African coastline dwellers through inventive ingenuity to serve commercial and military purposes based on our peculiar ecosystem, which the Ibani people are key players, bearing on mind this thought considers the prehistoric era. Notably is another school of thought of Ibani scholars, which suggests that the major influences of different European pre-historic stages affectedIbani sizes of our dugout canoes, the flamboyance is entrenched in the fleets etc.These influences ranges from the era that can be dated to between 1450 and 1550, which made the Rio Real an important trading river for the Portuguese empire ( called by the Ibani people Potokiri apu). During this Period was the first crowned Bonny King Asimini. Again the Dutch influencesof early and Mid 17th century era, and finally the very dominant trade influence of English era that can be dated from the end of 17th century into the 20th century, of which Bonny and afterwards Opobo had expanded so vast in trade and culture.A well known Ibani chronological tradition suggests that AdaBiriye of Peterside Bonny(whose descendants are in Opobo now) by the encouragement of King Asimini, ferried in flotillas of Gig, well decorated to Azuogu Ndoki in a bid to lure back Princess Edemini Kambasa the daughter of the King around 1449. This tradition suggests strongly that the Ibani people paddling heavy canoes were influenced by the portugese, who themselves were great sailors, row mates and masters.However by imperative traditions; it is suggestive that the Gig boat and Regatta in Ibani land took a dramatic turn during the reign of King Perekule (called Pepple) or captain Pepple 1704-1754; of which during the English vast influence on trade and aculturization strategies of gaining British Colonies all over the world, the British influenced the Ibani people greatly. On the visit of an English explorer James Barbot into Bonny 1699; he was met with an already influential King Perekule, who declared himself to the European as a captain of his own war canoes in his own right. At that time, Captain Boileau, Alderman Bougsty, Lord Willyby, Duke of Monmouth and Drunken Henry were already good friends of Captain Pepple (Perekule) in nurturing the European cultures to his people. By 1740 when Perekule instituted the first princely Houses in a rather English Royal Style with flags, cannons and canoe regattas etc. it was quite welcomed by the Ibani people then. Apparently canoe regatta and heavy paddling took a dramatic turn from small boats of 4 to 5 feets long paddling, to a huge economic modeled canoe, long and heavy burrow paddled by seemingly gladiators ( called Aru asawo) around the era of 1700. An example of this kind of paddle can be seen in Queens town Opobo today by the tomb of an Opobo nobleman called Ada Aritom, who fought the Bonny civil war of the Annie Pepples and Manilla Pepples 1869, and imagine how big those canoes would had been.By the memoir of Captain Crow 1792, a vivid description of our Ibani war Canoe ceremonial gigi was made:“Bonny has long been celebrated for the size and construction of her canoes, and those of the King deserve notice. They are formed out of a single log of the capot, a species of cotton tree, which attains so enormous a size, that it is said that one was seen at Akim, which ten men could scarcely grasp. The canoes in general use, have about fifteen paddles on a side; but those of the king, which are superior vessels of the sort, carry besides the rowers, as many as a hundred and fifty warriors, well furnished with small arms” .Therefore evidently, the Nwaotam regatta of every 31st of December in Opobo is just a natural adoption of who we really are; and the displays during installations of the Amayanabo or war canoe house chiefs.Captain Crow also gave a clear description of Ibani war Canoe Regatta 1792:“As at Bonny guns are mounted in the bows of their war canoes, which are full of armed warriors; and when they startoff, with Bangees (likely the seven ekere and Agaama) or drum beating, and colours flying, they present the appearance of an armament with which it would be no child’s work to cope”( cit.3p.276)Imperatively therefore, from the accounts of captain crow, regattas and war canoes as exciting as it might appear, havealways not been a child’s play at all. It very well depict the gallant valor a chieftain who most times sits or stands in the war canoe possesses, his economic power, material and military condor. Canoe regatta and war canoes have always been a play for men of valor and prowess. Apparently by 1792 Bonny during the reign of King Opubo, it had become a traditional norm and prerequisite to becoming a country chief or owning a co-perative canoe Household. Such chieftain must gear up a war canoe if he is to bear the ama alabo status, which normally will escort flotillas of Gigs to the hinterlands. By these canoes our numerous wars were fought in Bonny and out of Bonny. Even at Opobo the expeditions on the Ibibios and Anangs of Akwas were carried out by King Jaja and his chiefs via fully armed Ibani type war canoes.The English tradition of trade very well influenced this art greatly; as war canoe houses formation were linked not only to trade and domain (polo or Biri) as in European co-peratives or agency. For instance the major agent of king Jaja was Alex miller Bros. Company. The war canoe House also owned their own logo or seal of authority which was engraved on the hoisted flag of such House. This also by British style was to show power of attorney, autonomy and finally a regal display of identification.Apart from these already mentioned British influence on the Ibani Gigis and war canoes( Omu aru),each of them bore a name and like English Royal Boats are Personified.For instance, the King Opubo Annie Pepple of Bonny personal war canoe Boat ‘QUEENI’ , that was launched for King Opubo by his father King Perekule (Pepple) by 1740 back in Bonny, was handed over to Ada Madu, to Ada Alali, toAda Iloli, then to Ada Juwo Juwo (Jaja); while King Jajas’ Personal war canoe Boat is ‘Asu Jecki’(Jajas’ Horse) .In 1869. Chief Wogu Dappa war canoe Boat a crescendo of Prince Dappu Pepple of Bonny called ‘OKPANI’; Annie Stewart Pepple or Kiepirima war canoe Boat called ‘OBUKU SIAGHARI’; Chief Obulu( Ogolo) Annie Pepple war canoe Boat called ‘BOA’ or ‘ABOA’; Chief Oko Sunju Minima war canoe Boat called ‘IKASI’; while the personal war canoe Boat of Prince Fredrick Sunday Jaja is Called ‘OBI JECKI’, so on and so forth.Consequently, civil wars, military and trade expeditions were all embarked on by the use of war canoe Boats of the component unit Houses that make up Opobo Kingdom; in fact it was one seeming statutory military tool to dominate our neighboring communities. The war canoes Presupposes the existence of a war Canoe House, as it became a criteria to launch a war canoe House since from our ancient Bonny.Apparently in Opobo kingdom, having sixty seven war canoe Houses, means ability to marshal out sixty seven war canoe Boats, fully geared with men of war, or otherwise sixty seven flotillas of Ceremonial Gigs at any time of its need; and all of them must be marshaled out in order of traditional statutory position. In the ranks and filing of Ibani war canoe boats in Opobo, the head House (king Jaja), must be first.followed by Ogolo war canoe boat, followed by Kiepirima war canoe boat, followed by Sam Annie Pepple war canoe boat, then Agba Fubara war canoe boat and followed by other main H

Don't worry we have read this crap before. Once Ijaw's claims on a territory fail they will revise history and say they were the earliest settlers before the town was discovered. Bunch of lowlives.

This is what they are doing to King Jaja today. They keep spinning tales that Jaja met aborigine Ijaws on the land he founded Opobo. I pity that man if he doesn't align with the Igbo nation soonest. In fact among Ijaw Ibani land thieves there is a saying they always use to back up their lies. They will say, it is the first person to enter the bush that owns the bush.

OfoIgbo:


Let me lecture you a little.

In the past....
IGBOS in the Anioma area, called us NSHI people. But we call ourselves Nri people. Which part of this statement means Nri people are not Igbos?

From what I have read up so far on Ubani, it is clear that there were at least 3 categories of people in that town.
1. The ruling families (Ndoki-Igbos)
2. The slave merchants (Ndokis, Ngwas, Aros)
3. The slaves about to be shipped to the New World (Igbos and possibly Ibibioids)

The 4th category are perhaps Ijoid migrant porters and menial labourers and fishermen.

The clear majority are the slaves to be shipped out, who were mainly Igbos and Ibibioid people.

Now we all know that Okoloma exists in Ndoki territory and not in Ijaw territory.
So it makes sense to clearly state that the true original Bonny people, were Ndoki people, who also referred to Bonny by a name that already exists in Ndoki terrotory, namely OKOLOMA.

At no point was it stated that Bonny people were Ijaws.

Now to drill deeper to know who those true Bonny people were, all you needed to do was to consult earlier documents written by neutral observers.

John Adams ()1824), Captain Crow(1790-1830), Dr. Balfour Baikie (1850) all confirmed that IGBOS were the original inhabitants of Ubani.
Please in the future, use ancient records written by neutral observers to back up some of your fairy tales.

You see your life? I have shown you documents and you want to "lecture" by telling me useless stories.
Below are screenshots of Dr baikie and how the OKOLOMA (bonny) people count
Ngee
Nme
Tere
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonoma
Inine
Etc

How the Nembeians and other ijoh count
Kio
Mai
Tarai
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonomai
Inine
Etc

How the igbos count
Otu
Abuo
Ator
Ano
Ise
ishi
Asa
Asato
Etc

But ofoigbo is trying to tell me Bonny is Igbo and not ijo.
Look at that screen shot(I typed it out so you won't claim you didn't see it)
Ok, listen to your logic, you earlier said OKOLOMA IS IGBO, and that it is the same as OKOLOMA in ndoki land

I later opened your eyes and we now see that the ibos called it OKOLOBA
Now you're dancing to another direction.

Now if you claim it is the same, why did the igbos call Bonny "okoloBA"

Lies full your blood too much
God forbid.

Alabo7978:

You see your life? I have shown you documents and you want to "lecture" by telling me useless stories.
Below are screenshots of Dr baikie and how the OKOLOMA (bonny) people count
Ngee
Nme
Tere
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonoma
Inine
Etc

How the Nembeians and other ijoh count
Kio
Mai
Tarai
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonomai
Inine
Etc

How the igbos count
Otu
Abuo
Ator
Ano
Ise
ishi
Asa
Asato
Etc

But ofoigbo is trying to tell me Bonny is Igbo and not ijo.
Look at that screen shot(I typed it out so you won't claim you didn't see it)
Ok, listen to your logic, you earlier said OKOLOMA IS IGBO, and that it is the same as OKOLOMA in ndoki land

I later opened your eyes and we now see that the ibos called it OKOLOBA
Now you're dancing to another direction.

Now if you claim it is the same, why did the igbos call Bonny "okoloBA"

Lies full your blood too much
God forbid.

This is not Baike work.
Stop being silly.

Bonny people speak Igbo as we type, and still use Igbo counting system they have always used.

Alabo7978:

You see your life? I have shown you documents and you want to "lecture" by telling me useless stories.
Below are screenshots of Dr baikie and how the OKOLOMA (bonny) people count
Ngee
Nme
Tere
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonoma
Inine
Etc

How the Nembeians and other ijoh count
Kio
Mai
Tarai
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonomai
Inine
Etc

How the igbos count
Otu
Abuo
Ator
Ano
Ise
ishi
Asa
Asato
Etc

But ofoigbo is trying to tell me Bonny is Igbo and not ijo.
Look at that screen shot(I typed it out so you won't claim you didn't see it)
Ok, listen to your logic, you earlier said OKOLOMA IS IGBO, and that it is the same as OKOLOMA in ndoki land

I later opened your eyes and we now see that the ibos called it OKOLOBA
Now you're dancing to another direction.

Now if you claim it is the same, why did the igbos call Bonny "okoloBA"

Lies full your blood too much
God forbid.

Please, do not mislead people here. No neutral account so far has linked the ijaw directly with ibani unless they can prove ijaw was Brass.
I find it hard to understand how or why it was so difficult for explorers to identify or mention the ijaw people in Bonny despite the fact that they could vividly identify their character traits.

That post you put up is obviously an academic write up from someone else and not Baike.

To further buttress your lies as an exercise in futility, why is there current attempts to change ibani people's current language to that thing you posted there.

Fully reference the book you quoted, the author, the title and date of the publication so real academics can make necessary findings. Thank you.

#factsnotfiction

See list of numbers in Bonny as recorded by captain Crow.

Do they look Ijaw to you?

Igboid:
Izons still doing pirate activities in Bonny Waters in 21st century.
Somethings never change. The more they change, the more they stay the same.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dz2DjqkDmFjo&ved=2ahUKEwix_v76gMX0AhX8kokEHVowCdYQtwJ6BAgdEAI&usg=AOvVaw0GCDZZ7p3UeAaSRJ5EyB6W

Still pirates? Some things never change.

These are 3 different accounts.

Ekealterego:

Still pirates? Some things never change.

Yes o!
People never change.
Which is why the white man doesn't joke with history.
To understand a people, you need to study and understand their history.

Humans are creatures of habit. We don't change.

OfoIgbo:


But Ubani and Opobo people speak Igbo as their first language, and are only forces to learn Ibani as a distant second language.

So if their ruling families are of Igbo ancestry and their first language is Igbo, then to all intents and purposes, Ubani and Opobo are Igbo territories.

Languages aren't what determine who owns territories.
The German Language is spoken in more than 6 European countries and Arabic is spoken as first languages in many countries.



The two primary determining factors on the ownership of territories are ;

1) The political authority over the territories.







2) The peoples: In cases of referendum, referendum will only be conducted on territories where their people as represented by their political authorities demand for it.

Igboid:
See list of numbers in Bonny as recorded by captain Crow.

Do they look Ijaw to you?

Notice the number system Captain Crow recorded in Bonny differ from those of Isu in terms of number "One".

In Isu dialect that modern standard written Igbo drew alot from, "One" is called "Otu".
In Onitsha, Anioma and Anambra, One is "Ofu".
In parts of Abia and Ebonyi and Imo, One is "Nnaa".
Ndoki are the only Igbos that call one "Oli".

Notice that the one in Bonny Igbo was "Oli" written as "Oly".
Which proves our point that the influence of Igbo slaves in Bonny was grossly exaggerated by latter day Ijaw nationalists like Alagoa, in order to bury the Indigenous presence of Ndoki in Bonny, and present Igbo language presence in Bonny as the result of Igbo slaves in the Island.

But in truth, if the Igbo language in Bonny is as a result of Igbo slaves there, the Igbo dialect used in Bonny should be Isu, who formed bulk of Igbo slaves, and not the Ndoki dialect we see in Bonny today and indeed in the past, as recorded by captain Crow.

I just had to re emphasize this.

Alabo7978:

You see your life? I have shown you documents and you want to "lecture" by telling me useless stories.
Below are screenshots of Dr baikie and how the OKOLOMA (bonny) people count
Ngee
Nme
Tere
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonoma
Inine
Etc

How the Nembeians and other ijoh count
Kio
Mai
Tarai
Ini
Sono
Sonie
Sonomai
Inine
Etc

How the igbos count
Otu
Abuo
Ator
Ano
Ise
ishi
Asa
Asato
Etc

But ofoigbo is trying to tell me Bonny is Igbo and not ijo.
Look at that screen shot(I typed it out so you won't claim you didn't see it)
Ok, listen to your logic, you earlier said OKOLOMA IS IGBO, and that it is the same as OKOLOMA in ndoki land

I later opened your eyes and we now see that the ibos called it OKOLOBA
Now you're dancing to another direction.

Now if you claim it is the same, why did the igbos call Bonny "okoloBA"

Lies full your blood too much
God forbid.

Alabo, thanks for falling into my trap.

Now I have attached a piece wherein Dr. Baikie made it quite clear, the ancestry of Bonny indigenes. I hope this will clear all doubt, especially as you want to rely on the Baikie name.

cc
Slayerforever
9Pluto
igboid

OfoIgbo:



Alabo, thanks for falling into my trap.

Now I have attached a piece wherein Dr. Baikie made it quite clear, the ancestry of Bonny indigenes. I hope this will clear all doubt, especially as you want to rely on the Baikie name.

You have finished him.
In mortal combat, this is brutality and fatality all rolled into one and delivered with a dose of venom.

Igboid:


You have finished him.
In mortal combat, this is brutality and fatality all rolled into one and delivered with a dose of venom.

Igboid nwanne mmadu. These niggaz are headed nowhere with their revisionism attempts.

If Baikie is his authority on Bonny, well, he has now been given Baikie's take on the first indigenes of Ubani. Umu Igbo obviously.

OfoIgbo:


Igboid nwanne mmadu. These niggaz are headed nowhere with their revisionism attempts.

If Baikie is his authority on Bonny, well, he has now been given Baikie's take on the first indigenes of Ubani. Umu Igbo obviously.

They know the truth.
They are just being dishonest, mischievous and demonic.
It doesn't make sense.
Why claim a people who don't speak your language?
That's madness.
This is also my take on any Igbo claim on Eleme.
It doesn't make sense.


How these Izons must be wishing that these colonial records could have easily been burnt .

oyatz:



Languages aren't what determine who owns territories.
The German Language is spoken in more than 6 European countries and Arabic is spoken as first languages in many countries.



The two primary determining factors on the ownership of territories are ;

1) The political authority over the territories.







2) The peoples: In cases of referendum, referendum will only be conducted on territories where their people as represented by their political authorities demand for it.

OfoIgbo.
Please pay this Yoruba man no attention.
He is hell bent on derailing this topic.
Don't reply him.
Just ignore him like I did.

OfoIgbo:



Alabo, thanks for falling into my trap.

Now I have attached a piece wherein Dr. Baikie made it quite clear, the ancestry of Bonny indigenes. I hope this will clear all doubt, especially as you want to rely on the Baikie name.

cc
Slayerforever
9Pluto
igboid

Brutality.. I was seriously looking for this page.

OfoIgbo:



Alabo, thanks for falling into my trap.

Now I have attached a piece wherein Dr. Baikie made it quite clear, the ancestry of Bonny indigenes. I hope this will clear all doubt, especially as you want to rely on the Baikie name.
cc
Slayerforever
9Pluto
igboid

Why have you been hiding this literature while watching us run our mouth endlessly here?

Let me rephrase.

Why hidest thou this noblest of literature from thy Ubani kinsmen?

This is the MOST explicit record for me. Imagine I didn't even see this when I was challenging the entire ijaw to a live debate on their revised history.

This is an alternate neutral account from the one I started this thread on.

All opposing arguments so far, has been mere conjectures without any historical reference. Notice how names or words are continuously twisted to give a different meaning. I keep laughing when I see Opobo spelt as Opubo, then Opuboama.
I hope you guys also noticed the final blow to the Perekule claims as Pepple in this post.
I first noticed in Crow's account,that the assigned English names has no bearing to the indigenous names.

This account still mentioned the same Brass people in the original post, different from Kalabari people and not a single mention of ijaw.

The last attempt at revisionism was to change the Ebanne language and they almost succeeded, unfortunately there came a coconut head generation of igbos to stop them just in time. I think the preceeding generation of igbos owe this generation an apology. But they are forgiven since they didn't have Internet access.

This literature should be posted EVERYWHERE that matters.

Please, fully reference this book. The name of the book, the author's name and date.

Ladies and gentlemen, it took us several days and 33 pages on nairaland to arrive where we started. I think we have come to the end of this debate.

cc
Slayerforever
Ofoigbo
igboid
Eastlink

Your Ebanne igbo ancestors would be proud of you guys.

P.S: Someone can now tell the dubious author of we are all sons of Perekule to wipe his fallacious behind with that piece of thrash.

Ekealterego:

Brutality.. I was seriously looking for this page.

You guys already knocked them out a few days ago, but they keep trying to make fraudulent comebacks.
I just had to apply the sniper therapy, especially now that he seems to have teed himself up properly, with the Baikie aura.

I couldn't resist the urge to deep him in sniper

OfoIgbo:


You guys already knocked them out a few days ago, but they keep trying to make fraudulent comebacks.
I just had to apply the sniper therapy, especially now that he seems to have teed himself up properly, with the Baikie aura.

I couldn't resist the urge to deep him in sniper

Lmao.

I decree...your people should immediately confer you with a chieftaincy title.

9Pluto:


Why have you been hiding this literature while watching us run our mouth endlessly here?

Let me rephrase.

Why hidest thou this noblest of literature from thy Ubani kinsmen?

This is the MOST explicit record for me. Imagine I didn't even see this when I was challenging the entire ijaw to a live debate on their revised history.

This is an alternate neutral account from the one I started this thread on.

All opposing arguments so far, has been mere conjectures without any historical reference. Notice how names or words are continuously twisted to give a different meaning. I keep laughing when I see Opobo spelt as Opubo, then Opuboama.
I hope you guys also noticed the final blow to the Perekule claims as Pepple in this post.
I first noticed in Crow's account,that the assigned English names has no bearing to the indigenous names.

This account still mentioned the same Brass people in the original post, different from Kalabari people and not a single mention of ijaw.

The last attempt at revisionism was to change the Ebanne language and they almost succeeded, unfortunately there came a coconut head generation of igbos to stop them just in time. I think the preceeding generation of igbos owe this generation an apology. But they are forgiven since they didn't have Internet access.

This literature should be posted EVERYWHERE that matters.

Please, fully reference this book. The name of the book, the author's name and date.

Ladies and gentlemen, it took us several days and 33 pages on nairaland to arrive where we started. I think we have come to the end of this debate.

cc
Slayerforever
Ofoigbo
igboid
Eastlink

Your Ebanne igbo ancestors would be proud of you guys.

P.S: Someone can now tell the dubious author of we are all sons of Perekule to wipe his fallacious behind with that piece of thrash.

To be honest, I just found it this morning, and waited for the right opportunity to annihilate their claims. I looked for it for nearly a week.

I cut it out of the online version of Dr. Baikie's book about 3 or 4 years ago. Unfortunately the book was deleted when my system crashed about a year ago, and a whole lot of materials were lost, including that 1854 book by Baikie. Fortunately, the snippet I cut out remained.
It has proven helpful in obliterating these landgrabbers.

The injustice done to ndi Igbo is the demon that is still holding Nigeria down. It is the root of all agitation.
Imagine how developed Nigeria would have been if justice and truth is the bedrock of our existence.
But so long a major ethnic group is been treated as a conquered group, backed with state sponsored lies,
plus deliberate land grab cum neo colonization, the country will keep retrogressing.
Allow justice to reign supreme and see the country move forward.

9Pluto:


Lmao.

I decree...your people should immediately confer you with a chieftaincy title.

Maybe I should go and take the Mgburu-ichi title

UBANI bu ana Igbo. Say it loud!!!