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Steep:
Of course you are not born again that is why you don't have the holy spirit.

Steep:
The bible teaches that God is a trinity, for example in Genesis 1vv 26 God said let us make man in our image, meaning there was more than one person there.
Secondly, God speak and God performs the action of creation in the bible, and also God inspects and saw it is God, this shows there are three persons here, one speaks, one performs the action and one inspects but all three are called God.

Deutonomy 6 vv4 says yahweh is one yahweh, now the Hebrew word used for one is plural meaning God has a unity of plurality, this wouldn't make sense if God is not a multi personal being.

As for Jesus not being equal to the father, yes it is true that is because Jesus became a man, as a man he is less than God.

HedwigesMaduro:
This is the dumbest "proof" people give for the Trinity doctrine. So, if a president tells his cabinet "let us send the army to Borno" it means the president is many persons in one?

Nobody555:
Reverse is the case you first get baptized by the spirit before you become born again

Nobody555:
You no de read your Bible?

Steep:
So you mean Jesus is a God? Which means you believe Jehovah was lying when he said there was no God with him, when infact John state that Jesus was with God .

Steep:
Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

Steep:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and [b]the Word was with God, and the Word was God.[/b]
Jehovah witness organization insults Jehovah calling him a liar, when Jehovah said there was no god with him they wanna prove to him Jesus is a god that was with him that even help him in creation.
Bunch of idolaters and truthhaters

HedwigesMaduro:
This is the dumbest "proof" people give for the Trinity doctrine. So, if a president tells his cabinet "let us send the army to Borno" it means the president is many persons in one?

Steep:
You are not born again because you don't have the spirit of Jesus Christ.

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It seems your the one sharing the spirit Abi?

Are you aware that if you are not born again you won't see the kingdom of God?

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Yeah it's in my Bible.

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Do you know that not every righteous people will be in God's kingdom, but they will be chosen from all part world and their number is 144000?

MaxInDHouse:
The God talked about when Jehovah said none was with him simply means when it comes to worship only Jehovah deserves to be worshiped {Revelations 4:11} Moses was God {Exodus 7:1} and he walked with God before the statement at Isaiah 43:11 was made. So we need an accurate knowledge of God's word otherwise we will be mixing it all up! Romans 10:2-3

This clearly shows that Jesus is not the Almighty because he begged the Almighty to save him:
During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7
So Jesus is a God but not the Almighty!

The highlighted has flaws that's why other translations rendered this same verse differently.
Jesus was the master craftsman beside God in the beginning {Proverbs 8:30} but he himself was created! Proverbs 8:22
So when God said there's no other God beside Him what He meant is worship belongs only to Him {Mark 12:29 compare to Deuteronomy 6:4} that's why Jesus himself worship Jehovah and told us that Jehovah is his God and our God, his father and our father! John 20:17

Steep:
The word is as clear as crystal, what are you mixing it with?
Jehovah said there was no God with him, he didn't say there was no God worthy of worship with him, your belief is purely pagan.
The pagan's believe that there were small God's with the Almighty although those smaller gods are not worshiped but they could be honored alongside Almighty God, this is exactly your belief.
Yahweh said there was no God with him
Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Yes Jesus begged Almighty God to save him because he was a man.
The bible teaches Jesus to be a God-man meaning he exhibit both the character of Almighty God and a human. Pointing out Jesus character as a man only prove he was truly man but does not disprove that he is Almighty God.
NEXT
this proves that Jesus is yahweh, because Jehovah alone created the heaven and earth alone.
Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
MaxDhouse you have nowhere to hide!
You should realise by now that jehovah witness organization is a pagan religion and leading you to hell fire!

MaxInDHouse:
With the NWT we have gone throughout the world to convert millions and made them disciples zealously preaching and industrious teaching God's word in their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20

With the NWT we have erased hatred from their hearts so that they no longer see their neighbours as enemies that deserves to die but prospective inhabitants of God's kingdom. Matthew 5:43-48

With the NWT we have taught them never to raise weapons against anyone in the name of racism or politics, so they've vowed never to go to war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

With the NWT we have trained them to be obedient to the rulers so when others are agitating or protesting against the government whether they call it peaceful or violent protests JWs will not participate! John 17:14-16

With the NWT we have taught them to love their fellow believers exactly the same way Jesus loves them, so throughout the world everyone use to say about Jehovah's Witnesses "they love their members" John 13:34-35

Can you present any good result of your TRINITY? Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26

MaxInDHouse:
This is why we mildly deal with you people as you're zealous but without accurate knowledge! Romans 10:2-3

So you mean Jesus was praying, begging and bowing to himself in order to be faithful all to himself, shey?

MaxInDHouse:
This is why we mildly deal with you people as you're zealous but without accurate knowledge! Romans 10:2-3

So you mean Jesus was praying, begging and bowing to himself in order to be faithful all to himself, shey?

Emusan:
Imagine, you started with lies only to jump on this
Did New World appear in anywhere in the Bible?
Trinity has more than 2billion followers, isn't that a good result?

Nobody555:
Since when i was in my early teens, i have been finding it hard to comprehend and believe the Trinity.

I'm often told that I need to believe God as mystery. So i wonder, how can I know or walk with a mystery God?

I also wonder if the the disciples and the early church understand God as three persons in one God or one God in three persons or just one singular God, a person?

MaxInDHouse:
2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!

Unlike the 8.7 millions that has vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again forever.

QUALITY that's unique not just QUANTITY that you can't even say a single thing about what your so called trinity family will do to you in the face of RACISM or POLITICS! John 17:22

Steep:
You an ignorant man trying deal with me? What a joke?
Who says Jesus was kneeling and begging himself? Or you forgot that the Trinity means three persons in one God? Jesus one person of the Godhead who also became man pray to another person of the God head not Jesus praying to himself.

Emusan:
show us where you see their members carrying weapons and started to kill one another....
I know you'll enter another ghost mode now.
But the 8.7 million will quickly call those who carry weapons for their protection
Now it's about quality and not quantity whereas you're the very one who started with quality in this forum by telling us how Jehovah is increasing your number every year

MaxInDHouse:
Your so called trinitarians from another country will carry weapons and kill you even it's your so called men of God that will bless the weapons for you and your fellow believer to kill one another due to racism and politics!

Emusan:
Just your figment of imagination
show us where you see their members carrying weapons and started to kill one another....
Always lying for your god

MaxInDHouse:
Well Jesus said his own God is ONE GOD not THREE IN ONE GOD!

Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

Steep:
Deuteronomy 6:4 actually support the Trinity,
Mark 12:29 does not contradict the Trinity doctrine, which states that there is one God not three God's.

Steep:
You analogy is so stupid. Which cabinets did God consult to create man with him?

MaxInDHouse:
I know you're ready to argue blindly even when everyone knows that what you're saying is lie.

No single member of JW is a soldier because we love our neighbours and we won't like any politician to create enmity between us.

But yours will carry weapons saying they want to defend their country and in the process aim at their fellow believers from other nations.

You can continue deceiving yourself!

Emusan:
What did I say that is lie?

MaxInDHouse:
That trinitarians do participate in WARS so there's no way they can fight for their countries without killing their fellow trinitarians during battle!

HedwigesMaduro:
Oh! God wastalking to Himself, right? Do you know how you sound?

MaxInDHouse:
Then i wonder why one is begging another to save him {Hebrews 5:7} yet you're saying it's one God.
This trinity dogma nah wa o!

Emusan:
So it's now "IN WARS"

Do you even know what you're saying?

I said show me where "2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!"

Why are you afraid of this?

Steep:
Your God needed to create other smaller gods to help him create things, I wonder what kind of dumb god you serve who created other god to help him to create all other things.
Jwo serving a fake god.